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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10381
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:47:00 -
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Name recognition is a big deal, if you didn't know.
Sky Captain of Your Heart Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM8 |
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
181
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:50:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:I didn't ask why you didn't vote for me, I don't care. I asked why you voted for mittens, which you didn't explain other than you recognize his name. Name recognition plays a big part in democratic success.
efb :argh: |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1269
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:52:00 -
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HELIC0N ONE wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I didn't ask why you didn't vote for me, I don't care. I asked why you voted for mittens, which you didn't explain other than you recognize his name. Name recognition plays a big part in democratic success. efb :argh:
Well, if that is your only criteria for support life must be very simple for you!
Issler |
Prince Kobol
253
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:52:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:
I didn't ask why you didn't vote for me, I don't care. I asked why you voted for mittens, which you didn't explain other than you recognize his name.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
Funny enough because he is honest.
He doesn't pretend to care for everyone, for example he wont make promises to improve mining because he doesn't give a **** about mining so long as he can gank them, he doesn't apologise for the way he plays the game and unlike most care bears (which I current am) I understand that null sec needs to thrive for all the other area's of the game to improve.
There is nothing worse then a candidate declaring that they are the saviour of care bears and then not outlining what is broke, why they think its broke and what they are going to do to fix it.
You know that any candidate who does that is talking bullshit and that they have no idea.
I have respect for The Mittani simply because he does not try to panda to all players, in fact he is the complete opposite.
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Prince Kobol
253
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Posted - 2012.03.20 19:59:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I didn't ask why you didn't vote for me, I don't care. I asked why you voted for mittens, which you didn't explain other than you recognize his name. Name recognition plays a big part in democratic success. efb :argh: Well, if that is your only criteria for support life must be very simple for you! Issler
If you do not understand the concept behind having people recognize your name then you truly have no idea.
I will give you an example and I hope he does not mind using him :)
Liang Nuren
A name that most people who use the forums will recognize, why, because he is very knowledgeable in the aspect of the game play he enjoys and also because his PvP video 's and blogs are both fantastic.
For you to have that recognition it means that you have contributed in some way, shape or form. You might be well know for your forum posting, work on 3rd party apps, scams, pirating, knowledge of the game etc..
It mean that what ever you have done, it has been worthy of making a mental note of.
On a side note the fact that you do not care why people have not voted for you shows that you would be a very bad choice for CSM
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1269
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:02:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:HELIC0N ONE wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:I didn't ask why you didn't vote for me, I don't care. I asked why you voted for mittens, which you didn't explain other than you recognize his name. Name recognition plays a big part in democratic success. efb :argh: Well, if that is your only criteria for support life must be very simple for you! Issler If you do not understand the concept behind having people recognize your name then you truly have no idea. I will give you an example and I hope he does not mind using him :) Liang Nuren A name that most people who use the forums will recognize, why, because he is very knowledgeable in the aspect of the game play he enjoys and also because his PvP video 's and blogs are both fantastic. For you to have that recognition it means that you have contributed in some way, shape or form. You might be well know for your forum posting, work on 3rd party apps, scams, pirating, knowledge of the game etc.. It mean that what ever you have done, it has been worthy of making a mental note of. On a side note the fact that you do not care why people have not voted for you shows that you would be a very bad choice for CSM
I don' care why mittens supporters don't vote for me, a very different thing.
Issler Dainze The Miner's Friend CSM 7 Candidate
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2858
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:13:00 -
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a wiser CSM candidate might consider it relevant how mittani poached someone from their target demographic, who has no ties to goonswarm |
Prince Kobol
253
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:15:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:
I don' care why mittens supporters don't vote for me, a very different thing.
Issler Dainze
Again you have failed.
Like I said previously, I have no affiliation with any of the candidates.
At the beginning of the voting process The Mittani had as much of a chance of gaining my votes as the other candidates who I knew off.
As for the others like myself, you could still of gained my vote so long as you put together a well thought out opening post which you completely failed to do.
Let me put it this way to you. Here are last years results
Delegates 5,365 The Mittani 3,813 Seleene 3,320 UAxDEATH 3,306 Trebor Daehdoow 2,925 Killer2 2,539 White Tree 2,240 Vile Rat 2,086 Meissa Anunthiel 1,986 Draco Llasa
Alts 1,747 Elise Randolph 1,341 Prometheus Exenthal 1,090 Krutoj 956 Two Step 921 Darius III
Now lets say for arguments sakes that out of the total number of votes, 1000 belonged to players like me, hell make it 500, players who have no affiliation to any of the candidates.
The difference from being a CSM Delegate and Alternative during CSM 6 was only 239 votes.
The vast majority of votes during a CSM election are already accounted for before day 1, so players like me are the players that candidates like YOU need to convince. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1272
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:22:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:
I don' care why mittens supporters don't vote for me, a very different thing.
Issler Dainze
Again you have failed. Like I said previously, I have no affiliation with any of the candidates. At the beginning of the voting process The Mittani had as much of a chance of gaining my votes as the other candidates who I knew off. As for the others like yourself, you could of still of gained my vote so long as you put together a well thought out opening post which you completely failed to do. Let me put it this way to you. Here are last years results Delegates 5,365 The Mittani 3,813 Seleene 3,320 UAxDEATH 3,306 Trebor Daehdoow 2,925 Killer2 2,539 White Tree 2,240 Vile Rat 2,086 Meissa Anunthiel 1,986 Draco Llasa Alts 1,747 Elise Randolph 1,341 Prometheus Exenthal 1,090 Krutoj 956 Two Step 921 Darius III Now lets say for arguments sakes that out of the total number of votes, 1000 belonged to players like me, hell make it 500, players who have no affiliation to any of the candidates. The difference from being a CSM Delegate and Alternative during CSM 6 was only 239 votes. The vast majority of votes during a CSM election are already accounted for before day 1, so players like me are the players that candidates like YOU need to convince.
You voted for them because they were the top two last time. You don't get credit for voting for a winner.
What did they do or do you expect them to do to have gained your support. That is the question.
Issler
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Prince Kobol
254
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:29:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:
You voted for them because they were the top two last time. You don't get credit for voting for a winner.
What did they do or do you expect them to do to have gained your support. That is the question.
Issler
You know what, I'm going stop now because you are either now trolling or you truly stupid.
I am hoping for the former as I can't believe that a person can be as dumb as you are making out to be. |
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1272
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:32:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:
You voted for them because they were the top two last time. You don't get credit for voting for a winner.
What did they do or do you expect them to do to have gained your support. That is the question.
Issler
You know what, I'm going stop now because you are either now trolling or you truly stupid. I am hoping for the former as I can't believe that a person can be as dumb as you are making out to be.
So being top two is enough no matter what they did or will do.... gotcha....
Issler |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2859
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:34:00 -
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the final throes
goodbye, issler~~~ |
Prince Kobol
255
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:39:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:
You voted for them because they were the top two last time. You don't get credit for voting for a winner.
What did they do or do you expect them to do to have gained your support. That is the question.
Issler
You know what, I'm going stop now because you are either now trolling or you truly stupid. I am hoping for the former as I can't believe that a person can be as dumb as you are making out to be. So being top two is enough no matter what they did or will do.... gotcha.... Issler
At which point did I say I voted for them because they came 1st and 2nd.. that is correct, no where.
I explained why I voted for the The Mittani, just because you might of not liked the answer, not is not my problem.
As for Seleene, I personally feel having a former Dev on the CSM is a massive positive for more reasons then I care to list.
Also unlike you when he states that he is unhappy with an aspect of the the game, he explains why he is unhappy and what he would do to fix it, whilst showing a excellent knowledge of the game (which he would as being a former Dev)
I also enjoy his blogs and his willingness to be open and honest.
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Sidus Sarmiang
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:41:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:
You voted for them because they were the top two last time. You don't get credit for voting for a winner.
What did they do or do you expect them to do to have gained your support. That is the question.
Issler
You know what, I'm going stop now because you are either now trolling or you truly stupid. I am hoping for the former as I can't believe that a person can be as dumb as you are making out to be.
Yeah, I'm giving up as well. She can argue I'm just trolling (even if I'm genuinely offering advice as well) since I am a goon who voted for Mittani, but telling someone unaligned why they're wrong in who they voted for and why they voted... well, I hope other unaligned voters take notice for future elections. She's stupid, arrogant, and obviously does not play well with others. At least she'll never be a CSM member again, and she'll never understand why, so screw it. I'd rather spend my time talking to people who have a chance at learning something.
As for Issler, stop making threads. It's pretty obvious you're just flailing at this point since even when you ask questions you don't listen to the answers. There's no point in making threads if you're just going to be a defensive whiny baby.
I do want to say I don't know who you are and I don't think you're a goon but you've made some damn fine posts in this thread so hifive buddy. It's pretty rare I see a good post outside (or in) Goonswarm so you've done gone and impressed me. |
Sidus Sarmiang
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
71
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:42:00 -
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This thread is now about snail facts.
The largest land snail recorded weighed only 2 pounds and was 15 inches long. It was discovered in 1976. Others are extremely small being only a few centimeters long when they are adults and weighing just a couple of ounces. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1273
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:49:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:
You voted for them because they were the top two last time. You don't get credit for voting for a winner.
What did they do or do you expect them to do to have gained your support. That is the question.
Issler
You know what, I'm going stop now because you are either now trolling or you truly stupid. I am hoping for the former as I can't believe that a person can be as dumb as you are making out to be. So being top two is enough no matter what they did or will do.... gotcha.... Issler At which point did I say I voted for them because they came 1st and 2nd.. that is correct, no where. I explained why I voted for the The Mittani, just because you might of not liked the answer, not is not my problem. As for Seleene, I personally feel having a former Dev on the CSM is a massive positive for more reasons then I care to list. Also unlike you when he states that he is unhappy with an aspect of the the game, he explains why he is unhappy and what he would do to fix it, whilst showing a excellent knowledge of the game (which he would as being a former Dev) I also enjoy his blogs and his willingness to be open and honest.
Finally an answer!!! All I wanted to hear was what you just said about Seleene. If you had started their I would have thanked you for your reasoned response.
Issler
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2861
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Posted - 2012.03.20 20:50:00 -
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if only you had presented an obvious and logical reason i would not have jumped straight to crazytown reasons, it's really your own fault i say these crazy things |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
243
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Posted - 2012.03.21 03:30:00 -
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Sidus Sarmiang wrote:I do want to say I don't know who you are and I don't think you're a goon but you've made some damn fine posts in this thread so hifive buddy. It's pretty rare I see a good post outside (or in) Goonswarm so you've done gone and impressed me. Our secret power doesn't really come from internal ~opsec~ good posting, does it. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Commander McSpacepants
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2012.03.24 16:52:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:So looking at the huge number of pro mittens for CSM 7 goon posts I have a serious question. We know why goons support mittens and we can sure expect them to vote for him.
But does anyone expect non-goon aligned or non-pro-goon pilots to be convinced to support him by the pro goon posts?
It seems pretty unlikely to me and in fact the volume of them might have a backlash.
Not an attack, just a pondering about the expectations of the pro mittens brigade and maybe a request from the non-aligned player base as to the affect the pro mittens post had on their voting choice.
Just wondering...
Issler
The Mittani - 10058. Looks like the pro-mittens poasting worked out pretty well. Hail to the King of Space!
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
257
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Posted - 2012.03.24 18:50:00 -
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Commander McSpacepants wrote:The Mittani - 10058. Looks like the pro-mittens poasting worked out pretty well. Hail to the King of Space! King of Space! King of Space!
Smugposting will blot out all the badposts.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2080
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Posted - 2012.03.24 19:03:00 -
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I wish CCP could show a break out of the votes by corp/alliance so people can see how much non-goon support he got. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1022
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Posted - 2012.03.24 19:17:00 -
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In hindsight this thread was really ignorant and funny. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
257
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Posted - 2012.03.24 19:24:00 -
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Ignorance can be funny ! Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
1300
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Posted - 2012.03.24 19:59:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:You should be ashamed of yourself, Issler.
The bulk of my constituents have always come from outside of Goonswarm, and yet self-righteous 'democrats' like you slander them at every opportunity.
I am Alexander Gianturco, not 'The Mittani' when I'm in Iceland. I'm probably the savviest political operator in EVE (a bloo bloo bloo mittens is arrogant oh noes), and everyone knows it - which is why they vote for me, regardless of my ticker. My style of gameplay - war, conquest, murder, and ruthlessness - speaks to a huge population of players, even my in-game enemies.
(except those with Titans, those vote for Elise)
Even those who do not play 'my way' vote for me, because they know that I'm the best possible advocate for the players in a messy post-Incarna CCP environment.
In short: Deal with it.
You couldn't have misread my post more.
I totally respect your politics and effectiveness in Eve. This is not meant to be an anti-mittens thread. This is more "we know mittens will crush all in the elections (I said that repeatedly) so why focus so hard on adding to the domination when working to get other candidates you might want to work with more in the CSM"?
This was absolutely meant to satisfy my curiosity about the motivations and expectations of some of the more active groups in Eve during the election.
As for slander, looking at the definition, I can't see that I've slandered anyone. If that could only be said about the so many bees that have made a hobby out of trolling me.
Sorry if you somehow interpreted this as an attack on you or your supporters.
And congratulations on winning the chair again. I look forward to working with you!
Issler |
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