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Onionico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.04.18 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Onionico on 18/04/2008 22:40:35
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Fred0
You're probably right. But we're stubborn enough to not have left unless this INSRG thing had happened. We pulled back 2 weeks earlier aswell for 5 days when ATF convo'd and asked for our Branch moons. At that time we just went home, kept INSRG blue, and shot ATF some to show them we meant business about not giving up our moons.
RZR are honestly not an agressive entity but we will defend ourselves with full force and use our allies to win wars if we have to. We play fair and we respect most alliances in EVE...
ATF are nice guys. Shame on you for shooting them for no reason.
Maybe you guys should just go back down south and move your space there? Heck, Billy Bob, maybe you guys can start a new NAPTrain down there, and stop being the caboose of this one, eh?
:)
-Liang
Don't know who you are, but you sure do post a lot.
For someone that DOES post a lot, you really need to stop signing your posts. We see who you are. Stop it, it's making you look nubbish.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.04.18 23:45:00 -
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Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Liang Nuren
ATF are nice guys. Shame on you for shooting them for no reason.
In our world friends don't ask you to give up stuff for no gain. ATF did that to us. INSRG did that to us. I asked repeatedly to both those entities what's in this deal for us. Why should we give up this and what do we get in return. All they offered were a promise to let us keep other stuff we already owned, in INSRG's case iirc we would be allowed to keep BKG. This is fundamentally different to what we label as friendship, anyone who wants to fly with INSRG and ATF better remember that ;)
Yes, because it's completely unreasonable to ask you to remove your POSes from space that we fought for and earned.
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Drachenlord
Amarr Port Royal Independent Kontractors Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2008.04.18 23:52:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Liang Nuren
ATF are nice guys. Shame on you for shooting them for no reason.
In our world friends don't ask you to give up stuff for no gain. ATF did that to us. INSRG did that to us. I asked repeatedly to both those entities what's in this deal for us. Why should we give up this and what do we get in return. All they offered were a promise to let us keep other stuff we already owned, in INSRG's case iirc we would be allowed to keep BKG. This is fundamentally different to what we label as friendship, anyone who wants to fly with INSRG and ATF better remember that ;)
ahhhh... Fred0... selective memory much? What does Friendship mean to RZR?
Well... as I remember it, it means hiding Promethium and Dysprosium moons to your "friends" that controlled the space around said moons in Branch to service your own selfish "needs"
It also involves making agreements under the table and agreeing not to intervene in any hostile actions against your Allies and friends that live in Branch... when ATF and INSRG decided to attack them...
Anyone flying with RAZOR should be made aware of these facts. ----- While the Enemies of the Emperor still draw breath there can be no peace
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FredFred Burger
Caldari Council of Human Urban Meatshield Paratroopers
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Posted - 2008.04.19 00:21:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Katherine Marx
Originally by: KeyuserII
If you have facts that prove him wrong, please do not hesitate to bring them forth. The chances are you do not, Razor has had their hand held through anything they have done.
Querious they even had help and fix was not even there to fight. I mean even M.M. an alliance essentially put in place by Razor has out grown,built and played them.
If anything Razor might be bit stronger with pos defences, but they don't even have a titan (in progess atm) and one or two MS. So because of the MC spanking they will have better defended pos's, but lets not be fooled. They are weak and will break in week of being hit hard. That is Razor as a whole and always has been.
Right now Razor's second strongest corp(oldest 2nd to) Do not speak english as much as they do greek. Razor hit hard for a week or two and you will be able to see them for what they are. CEI will stand somewhat strong, but ernest,disco will allienate everyone and fredo will try to damage control. History repeats itself.If they are hit hard and M.M. sit by (like they love to do)Razor will implode trying to damage control and then try to regroup if given any breathing room(any decent attacking alliance do not allow that). How is Q space going for them? They have some sheit invested there. I'm guessing like most of their space hit with anything. It's falling like Ernest flying a MS using disco's account...amirite?
hello Aneu :) i figured with your top quality "spy" network you would be more informed but it would appear you are just as misinformed as ever.
Hi Ernest :) Still blobbing in failure then blaming the grunts because they listened to you?
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Gallager
Caldari GALAXIAN
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Posted - 2008.04.19 00:43:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: raspuiain
Originally by: Fred0
And yes, against BOB we failed because INSRG dragged us home. Abandoning delve sucked alot because if there's something we never ever want to do, it's abandon friends. :(
Lol fredo, Although I do belive Insurg wanted to remove RzR pos's and take Branch, Pulling out to strike wasnt the reason for failing against bob :)
You're probably right. But we're stubborn enough to not have left unless this INSRG thing had happened. We pulled back 2 weeks earlier aswell for 5 days when ATF convo'd and asked for our Branch moons. At that time we just went home, kept INSRG blue, and shot ATF some to show them we meant business about not giving up our moons.
RZR are honestly not an agressive entity but we will defend ourselves with full force and use our allies to win wars if we have to. We play fair and we respect most alliances in EVE...
You make the impossible possible, Fred0. I didn't think there was anymore RZR-poo to go around and then I read this.
On the RZR leadership boards long ago there were posts regarding the relationships between RZR and these alliances (ATF and INSRG). It was stated in these posts that you would let the hostilities in Branch go on as long as no RZR assets were attacked. You knew then that there was going to be a fight between RZR and both of those alliances, but you wanted to do it on your terms as your interests in the south were of more importance at the time. You knew if you waited long enough, both of these alliances would give you a reason to justify a blob attack on them. I don't blame you for any of that as I think that is valid reasoning and a pretty damn good plan. The problem I do have is that you come on CAOD and act completely innocent as if you never would have considered aggressing these "friendly" alliances.
Remove the pipe and take deep, deep breaths. The stuff you are smoking has seriously degenerated the little bit of brains you used to have.
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cheephough
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Posted - 2008.04.19 01:01:00 -
[186]
Originally by: Gallager
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: raspuiain
Originally by: Fred0
And yes, against BOB we failed because INSRG dragged us home. Abandoning delve sucked alot because if there's something we never ever want to do, it's abandon friends. :(
Lol fredo, Although I do belive Insurg wanted to remove RzR pos's and take Branch, Pulling out to strike wasnt the reason for failing against bob :)
You're probably right. But we're stubborn enough to not have left unless this INSRG thing had happened. We pulled back 2 weeks earlier aswell for 5 days when ATF convo'd and asked for our Branch moons. At that time we just went home, kept INSRG blue, and shot ATF some to show them we meant business about not giving up our moons.
RZR are honestly not an agressive entity but we will defend ourselves with full force and use our allies to win wars if we have to. We play fair and we respect most alliances in EVE...
You make the impossible possible, Fred0. I didn't think there was anymore RZR-poo to go around and then I read this.
On the RZR leadership boards long ago there were posts regarding the relationships between RZR and these alliances (ATF and INSRG). It was stated in these posts that you would let the hostilities in Branch go on as long as no RZR assets were attacked. You knew then that there was going to be a fight between RZR and both of those alliances, but you wanted to do it on your terms as your interests in the south were of more importance at the time. You knew if you waited long enough, both of these alliances would give you a reason to justify a blob attack on them. I don't blame you for any of that as I think that is valid reasoning and a pretty damn good plan. The problem I do have is that you come on CAOD and act completely innocent as if you never would have considered aggressing these "friendly" alliances.
Remove the pipe and take deep, deep breaths. The stuff you are smoking has seriously degenerated the little bit of brains you used to have.
/signed as truth. Glad we're out of that leadership cacophony of bullcrap.
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Onionico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.04.19 01:21:00 -
[187]
Originally by: cheephough
Originally by: Gallager
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: raspuiain
Originally by: Fred0
And yes, against BOB we failed because INSRG dragged us home. Abandoning delve sucked alot because if there's something we never ever want to do, it's abandon friends. :(
Lol fredo, Although I do belive Insurg wanted to remove RzR pos's and take Branch, Pulling out to strike wasnt the reason for failing against bob :)
You're probably right. But we're stubborn enough to not have left unless this INSRG thing had happened. We pulled back 2 weeks earlier aswell for 5 days when ATF convo'd and asked for our Branch moons. At that time we just went home, kept INSRG blue, and shot ATF some to show them we meant business about not giving up our moons.
RZR are honestly not an agressive entity but we will defend ourselves with full force and use our allies to win wars if we have to. We play fair and we respect most alliances in EVE...
You make the impossible possible, Fred0. I didn't think there was anymore RZR-poo to go around and then I read this.
On the RZR leadership boards long ago there were posts regarding the relationships between RZR and these alliances (ATF and INSRG). It was stated in these posts that you would let the hostilities in Branch go on as long as no RZR assets were attacked. You knew then that there was going to be a fight between RZR and both of those alliances, but you wanted to do it on your terms as your interests in the south were of more importance at the time. You knew if you waited long enough, both of these alliances would give you a reason to justify a blob attack on them. I don't blame you for any of that as I think that is valid reasoning and a pretty damn good plan. The problem I do have is that you come on CAOD and act completely innocent as if you never would have considered aggressing these "friendly" alliances.
Remove the pipe and take deep, deep breaths. The stuff you are smoking has seriously degenerated the little bit of brains you used to have.
/signed as truth. Glad we're out of that leadership cacophony of bullcrap.
Look at dat fuggen quote wall.
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Onionico
Series of Tubes
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Posted - 2008.04.19 02:10:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Onionico
Originally by: cheephough
Originally by: Gallager
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: raspuiain
Originally by: Fred0
And yes, against BOB we failed because INSRG dragged us home. Abandoning delve sucked alot because if there's something we never ever want to do, it's abandon friends. :(
Lol fredo, Although I do belive Insurg wanted to remove RzR pos's and take Branch, Pulling out to strike wasnt the reason for failing against bob :)
You're probably right. But we're stubborn enough to not have left unless this INSRG thing had happened. We pulled back 2 weeks earlier aswell for 5 days when ATF convo'd and asked for our Branch moons. At that time we just went home, kept INSRG blue, and shot ATF some to show them we meant business about not giving up our moons.
RZR are honestly not an agressive entity but we will defend ourselves with full force and use our allies to win wars if we have to. We play fair and we respect most alliances in EVE...
You make the impossible possible, Fred0. I didn't think there was anymore RZR-poo to go around and then I read this.
On the RZR leadership boards long ago there were posts regarding the relationships between RZR and these alliances (ATF and INSRG). It was stated in these posts that you would let the hostilities in Branch go on as long as no RZR assets were attacked. You knew then that there was going to be a fight between RZR and both of those alliances, but you wanted to do it on your terms as your interests in the south were of more importance at the time. You knew if you waited long enough, both of these alliances would give you a reason to justify a blob attack on them. I don't blame you for any of that as I think that is valid reasoning and a pretty damn good plan. The problem I do have is that you come on CAOD and act completely innocent as if you never would have considered aggressing these "friendly" alliances.
Remove the pipe and take deep, deep breaths. The stuff you are smoking has seriously degenerated the little bit of brains you used to have.
/signed as truth. Glad we're out of that leadership cacophony of bullcrap.
Look at dat fuggen quote wall.
QFT
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Katherine Marx
Muff Diving
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Posted - 2008.04.19 02:18:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Drachenlord
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Liang Nuren
ATF are nice guys. Shame on you for shooting them for no reason.
In our world friends don't ask you to give up stuff for no gain. ATF did that to us. INSRG did that to us. I asked repeatedly to both those entities what's in this deal for us. Why should we give up this and what do we get in return. All they offered were a promise to let us keep other stuff we already owned, in INSRG's case iirc we would be allowed to keep BKG. This is fundamentally different to what we label as friendship, anyone who wants to fly with INSRG and ATF better remember that ;)
ahhhh... Fred0... selective memory much? What does Friendship mean to RZR?
Well... as I remember it, it means hiding Promethium and Dysprosium moons to your "friends" that controlled the space around said moons in Branch to service your own selfish "needs"
It also involves making agreements under the table and agreeing not to intervene in any hostile actions against your Allies and friends that live in Branch... when ATF and INSRG decided to attack them...
Anyone flying with RAZOR should be made aware of these facts.
ahhh. Drachenlord.... selective memory much? you forgot that RZR and MM took Branch to begin with. I think they can delegate whatever they want because they "earned" it in the first place.
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Melpheus Rax
Disco Biscuits
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Posted - 2008.04.19 02:32:00 -
[190]
Too much talk and no action. You guys have one fight and then talk about it for a month and then renegotiate your napfest.
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Miss Lucifer
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.19 03:03:00 -
[191]
Originally by: cheephough /signed as truth. Glad we're out of that leadership cacophony of bullcrap blah blah
Well Im terribly sad to see Galaxian out of our leadership cacophony of bullcrap too blah blah.
Without Galaxian we have no corp consistantly terrible enough to come 2nd place behind Guristas Pirates on our killboard blah blah --------------- Shake it baby! |
MrRx7
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.19 03:11:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Miss Lucifer
Originally by: cheephough /signed as truth. Glad we're out of that leadership cacophony of bullcrap blah blah
Well Im terribly sad to see Galaxian out of our leadership cacophony of bullcrap too blah blah.
Without Galaxian we have no corp consistantly terrible enough to come 2nd place behind Guristas Pirates on our killboard blah blah
Wait, GALAXIAN was actually in razor???? apart of 3 people I never saw the rest of the fail corp who stayed up in the north carebearing the entire southern war. I like Sir James he a nice guy, but the rest of his leadership are a bunch of loonies who will do anything to make it seems like razor are the bad guys.
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Gallager
Caldari GALAXIAN
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Posted - 2008.04.19 04:09:00 -
[193]
Edited by: Gallager on 19/04/2008 04:09:43
Originally by: MrRx7
Originally by: Miss Lucifer
Originally by: cheephough /signed as truth. Glad we're out of that leadership cacophony of bullcrap blah blah
Well Im terribly sad to see Galaxian out of our leadership cacophony of bullcrap too blah blah.
Without Galaxian we have no corp consistantly terrible enough to come 2nd place behind Guristas Pirates on our killboard blah blah
Wait, GALAXIAN was actually in razor???? apart of 3 people I never saw the rest of the fail corp who stayed up in the north carebearing the entire southern war. I like Sir James he a nice guy, but the rest of his leadership are a bunch of loonies who will do anything to make it seems like razor are the bad guys.
What was that massive number of dreads that CEI deployed during southern ops? Perhaps 8 if you were lucky....Even in your own space the entire alliance was only able to muster 9 dreads.
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MrRx7
Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.19 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gallager Edited by: Gallager on 19/04/2008 04:09:43
What was that massive number of dreads that CEI deployed during southern ops? Perhaps 8 if you were lucky....Even in your own space the entire alliance was only able to muster 9 dreads.
CEI as a corp prob did around 8, but its not like any of your dreads bothered to show up. as far as the entire alliance, I guess you missed the multiple 45+ man rzr only capitals ops...oh right...
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 04:23:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Mr McDee
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Originally by: Mr McDee
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
No. 'Capships onagate' explains that one.
Attack on FS was also 'capships onagate'? You can deny it as much as you want, but in fact Tri was payed by Razor.
Fallen Souls allied with Aftermath and attacked us in YA0 and VFK after we'd kicked VI in the teeth and they'd surrendered to us. Fallen Souls loosing a load of capships was their own fault.
Woah, that's something new. You have a good imagination, haven't you?
FS wouldn't attack Tri at those times even if they wanted, as their hands were tied in the BKG. There was an attack in Deklein as an attempt of counter attack on your pet alliance (I don't even recall it's name), but that one wasn't even half serious and of course FS weren't the aggressors.
Do not spin the facts, mkay?
Don't spin the facts? I was there you moron.
The timeline you have in that little head of yours is broken. Fallen Souls were living in the South (Esoteria/Paragon Soul?) of Eve before their war with us. They moved north and into JU/VFK with Aftermath with the sole intention to declaring war on us.
Secordly, Fallen Souls had no hand in BKG until AFTER they'd got kicked out of VFK and JU. They wern't in BKG till they'd sat in P2 for a month and AFTER they'd inherited Sparta's stations in the top of Deklein AFTER Sparta colapsed under the weight of their own paranoia.
Thirdly, we didn't even have any pet alliances during that entire period. We had two very small allies who lived in Venal. At the time of attacking YA0 and VFK Tri was <750 pilots IIRC.
You're really picking the wrong person to argue Tri history with. But keep going by all means, i can do this all day.
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Centauris
Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.19 04:24:00 -
[196]
Galax makes me lol in every possible way
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Ackaroth
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 04:53:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Don't spin the facts? I was there you moron.
The timeline you have in that little head of yours is broken. Fallen Souls were living in the South (Esoteria/Paragon Soul?) of Eve before their war with us. They moved north and into JU/VFK with Aftermath with the sole intention to declaring war on us. How exactly do you surmise that they wern't the aggressor when the attacked us.
Secordly, Fallen Souls had no hand in BKG until AFTER they'd got kicked out of VFK and JU. They wern't in BKG till they'd sat in P2 for a month and AFTER they'd inherited Sparta's stations in the top of Deklein AFTER Sparta colapsed under the weight of their own paranoia.
Thirdly, we didn't even have any pet alliances during that entire period. We had two very small allies who lived in Venal. At the time of attacking YA0 and VFK Tri was <750 pilots IIRC.
You're really picking the wrong person to argue Tri history with. But keep going by all means, i can do this all day.
Quoting for truth. I joined right when TRI was in YAO/VFK and fighting AA in JU. Which is funny because there wasnt much fighting, it was 2 opposite timezones. Me, being US tz, one of the few at the time in TRI, I would go poke around in JU and surrounding and lost my first and only Arazu to date to a gatecamp coming back from SD- (or whatever that deadend next to JU is called). They had 2 carriers, multiple inties, and support, all on the ingate, setup because me and a non-alliance friend were poking around. We were an arazu and a crusader (with an AB fitted, I laughed and then *****ed him out for being a noob). Sorry got off topic.
Then FS joined in, making that big CAOD post calling us Northern Monkeys, if you dont remember. Their attack lasted about a week, petered out rather quickly with Mitch leaving shortly thereafter with dark rising, IIRC. ___________________
Add total value of open buy and sell orders to "Orders" tab of wallet.
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Viper ShizzIe
Habitual Euthanasia
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Posted - 2008.04.19 05:00:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Phrixus Zephyr
Don't spin the facts? I was there you moron.
The timeline you have in that little head of yours is broken. Fallen Souls were living in the South (Esoteria/Paragon Soul?) of Eve before their war with us. They moved north and into JU/VFK with Aftermath with the sole intention to declaring war on us. How exactly do you surmise that they wern't the aggressor when the attacked us.
Secordly, Fallen Souls had no hand in BKG until AFTER they'd got kicked out of VFK and JU. They wern't in BKG till they'd sat in P2 for a month and AFTER they'd inherited Sparta's stations in the top of Deklein AFTER Sparta colapsed under the weight of their own paranoia.
Thirdly, we didn't even have any pet alliances during that entire period. We had two very small allies who lived in Venal. At the time of attacking YA0 and VFK Tri was <750 pilots IIRC.
You're really picking the wrong person to argue Tri history with. But keep going by all means, i can do this all day.
This, pretty much.
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Kyguard
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.19 05:06:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Liang Nuren
ATF are nice guys. Shame on you for shooting them for no reason.
In our world friends don't ask you to give up stuff for no gain. ATF did that to us. INSRG did that to us. I asked repeatedly to both those entities what's in this deal for us. Why should we give up this and what do we get in return. All they offered were a promise to let us keep other stuff we already owned, in INSRG's case iirc we would be allowed to keep BKG. This is fundamentally different to what we label as friendship, anyone who wants to fly with INSRG and ATF better remember that ;)
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.19 06:44:00 -
[200]
Edited by: Fred0 on 19/04/2008 06:46:08 Edited by: Fred0 on 19/04/2008 06:45:37
Originally by: Gallager
Originally by: Fred0
Lol fredo, Although I do belive Insurg wanted to remove RzR pos's and take Branch, Pulling out to strike wasnt the reason for failing against bob :)
You're probably right. But we're stubborn enough to not have left unless this INSRG thing had happened. We pulled back 2 weeks earlier aswell for 5 days when ATF convo'd and asked for our Branch moons. At that time we just went home, kept INSRG blue, and shot ATF some to show them we meant business about not giving up our moons.
RZR are honestly not an agressive entity but we will defend ourselves with full force and use our allies to win wars if we have to. We play fair and we respect most alliances in EVE...
You make the impossible possible, Fred0. I didn't think there was anymore RZR-poo to go around and then I read this.
On the RZR leadership boards long ago there were posts regarding the relationships between RZR and these alliances (ATF and INSRG). It was stated in these posts that you would let the hostilities in Branch go on as long as no RZR assets were attacked. You knew then that there was going to be a fight between RZR and both of those alliances, but you wanted to do it on your terms as your interests in the south were of more importance at the time. You knew if you waited long enough, both of these alliances would give you a reason to justify a blob attack on them. I don't blame you for any of that as I think that is valid reasoning and a pretty damn good plan. The problem I do have is that you come on CAOD and act completely innocent as if you never would have considered aggressing these "friendly" alliances.
Remove the pipe and take deep, deep breaths. The stuff you are smoking has seriously degenerated the little bit of brains you used to have.
Umm, what? Your post and mine go perfectly together mate. Saying we'll fight back if they come after us is not being agressive in the sense I said it. Convo'ing and requesting us take down towers is. I'd never do the first against any of our friends but if RAWR/MH or whoever started asking us to comply to completely one sided demands we would fight them. Ofcourse they never would but anyway you see my point I hope.
EDIT: Dunno how to repair this post --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |
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Malken
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.19 08:27:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Fred0 Edited by: Fred0 on 19/04/2008 06:46:08 Edited by: Fred0 on 19/04/2008 06:45:37
Originally by: Gallager
Originally by: Fred0
Lol fredo, Although I do belive Insurg wanted to remove RzR pos's and take Branch, Pulling out to strike wasnt the reason for failing against bob :)
You're probably right. But we're stubborn enough to not have left unless this INSRG thing had happened. We pulled back 2 weeks earlier aswell for 5 days when ATF convo'd and asked for our Branch moons. At that time we just went home, kept INSRG blue, and shot ATF some to show them we meant business about not giving up our moons.
RZR are honestly not an agressive entity but we will defend ourselves with full force and use our allies to win wars if we have to. We play fair and we respect most alliances in EVE...
You make the impossible possible, Fred0. I didn't think there was anymore RZR-poo to go around and then I read this.
On the RZR leadership boards long ago there were posts regarding the relationships between RZR and these alliances (ATF and INSRG). It was stated in these posts that you would let the hostilities in Branch go on as long as no RZR assets were attacked. You knew then that there was going to be a fight between RZR and both of those alliances, but you wanted to do it on your terms as your interests in the south were of more importance at the time. You knew if you waited long enough, both of these alliances would give you a reason to justify a blob attack on them. I don't blame you for any of that as I think that is valid reasoning and a pretty damn good plan. The problem I do have is that you come on CAOD and act completely innocent as if you never would have considered aggressing these "friendly" alliances.
Remove the pipe and take deep, deep breaths. The stuff you are smoking has seriously degenerated the little bit of brains you used to have.
Umm, what? Your post and mine go perfectly together mate. Saying we'll fight back if they come after us is not being agressive in the sense I said it. Convo'ing and requesting us take down towers is. I'd never do the first against any of our friends but if RAWR/MH or whoever started asking us to comply to completely one sided demands we would fight them. Ofcourse they never would but anyway you see my point I hope.
EDIT: Dunno how to repair this post
calling and asking the buddy to remove their rusty old dodge off your lawn isnt ok then?
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.19 08:44:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Malken
calling and asking the buddy to remove their rusty old dodge off your lawn isnt ok then?
Bad analogy. It's not a rusty old dodge, it's a moneymaker and the only reason you want us to remove it is so that you can earn dough there instead of us. One sided deal where you gain something and we nothing. Shows us what kind of friends you are. --- "Cutting Edge 4 Life" |
EVIL SYNNs
Minmatar Shadows of the Dead Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 08:46:00 -
[203]
The Tri guys are right, I remember the FS BS squad coming up North to sort us out (TRI at the time). It didn't go very well for them and they moved straight in to NPC space and, if I remember correct, Mitch then said he had real life issues and does what every person who has these RL issues joined BoB.
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Malken
Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.19 10:06:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Malken
calling and asking the buddy to remove their rusty old dodge off your lawn isnt ok then?
Bad analogy. It's not a rusty old dodge, it's a moneymaker and the only reason you want us to remove it is so that you can earn dough there instead of us. One sided deal where you gain something and we nothing. Shows us what kind of friends you are.
so its ok for you to keep that rusty old dodge on his lawn since you make money from it?, dont you have your own lawn to **** on so to speak?
kinda shows us what kind of friends you were to use your own analogy.
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Lilan Kahn
Amarr The Littlest Hobos Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.19 10:11:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Malken
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Malken
calling and asking the buddy to remove their rusty old dodge off your lawn isnt ok then?
Bad analogy. It's not a rusty old dodge, it's a moneymaker and the only reason you want us to remove it is so that you can earn dough there instead of us. One sided deal where you gain something and we nothing. Shows us what kind of friends you are.
so its ok for you to keep that rusty old dodge on his lawn since you make money from it?, dont you have your own lawn to **** on so to speak?
kinda shows us what kind of friends you were to use your own analogy.
So fred0 what woud you have asked us to do if i felt like deploying 2 full large deathstars in bkg with 2 moon miners on?
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Mr McDee
Ancient Crew
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Posted - 2008.04.19 10:26:00 -
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I cannot even understand why razor feel the need to bring any excuses. The true reasons are as always way more simple: they felt it dangerous to have growing powerblock at their own doors and when their pets were kicked from the branch and it started to smell like something burning, they decided it's time to remove the danger while it's not too late. Every alliance that is smart enough would do the same. |
Guardian Angell
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.04.19 10:39:00 -
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Originally by: Mr McDee Every alliance that is smart enough would do the same.
Smart is a very subjective word, not to be used with ease. ____________________________ Chance favors the prepared mind. |
Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.04.19 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lilan Kahn So fred0 what woud you have asked us to do if i felt like deploying 2 full large deathstars in bkg with 2 moon miners on?
What's in it for us?
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Mr Trouble
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.04.19 10:55:00 -
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Well, whats in it for them appears to be absolutely spanking you into next week in set piece engagements despite your overwhemling numbers advantage.
There have been two large/significant engagements.
Z-K = 700 v 250, end result of 550 RZR & Co dead and INSRG using freighters to haul loot EQI = Even numbers, another massive victory for INSRG with 19 RZR & Co capitals dead including 17 dreads
Having lost 80bn ISK work of ships so far, one does have to ask if the coaltion couldn't have just said 'hmmm, maybe that one dysprosium moon isnt so important after all'.
Be interesting to see how RZR dig themselves out of this hole...
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stinger7
eve tutors inc
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Posted - 2008.04.19 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: stinger7 on 19/04/2008 11:05:51
Originally by: Mr Trouble Well, whats in it for them appears to be absolutely spanking you into next week in set piece engagements despite your overwhemling numbers advantage.
There have been two large/significant engagements.
Z-K = 700 v 250, end result of 550 RZR & Co dead and INSRG using freighters to haul loot EQI = Even numbers, another massive victory for INSRG with 19 RZR & Co capitals dead including 17 dreads
Having lost 80bn ISK work of ships so far, one does have to ask if the coaltion couldn't have just said 'hmmm, maybe that one dysprosium moon isnt so important after all'.
Be interesting to see how RZR dig themselves out of this hole...
Its because the leaders of RAZOR benefit from the moons not the actual members, so the RAZOR leaders are quite willing to lose 80 billion of their members isk in ships and modules to gain the long term (virtually individual) income a moon gives them.
Are you new to eve and how the large alliance leaders work their members?. |
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