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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 16:54:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:While I agree that at some point something will have to be done because we seem to be gaining supercapitals a lot faster than we are losing them and when everyone is flying around in a Nyx or Titan there will not be much point to EVE. Supercaps were meant to be rare but the devs have underestimated the drive of players to have as many of these magic carrots as they can. Yeah, what will happen will be each major alliance having a First Fleet composed of 100 titans or so and 150 Supercarriers or so, and then all the lesser players will join second, third fleet etc with dreadnaught/carriers and whatnot. Probably battlecruisers would be good, as the titans would be able to kill battleships. Dreadnaughts are for adding DPS against enemy titans.
Though probably all you'd do is hotdrop 250 supercaps on some new alliance with only 10 titans, eh.
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 17:05:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: Though probably all you'd do is hotdrop 250 supercaps on some new alliance with only 10 titans, eh.
I think Pandemic Legion's legal team would be all over you if you did that, they have the patent on that I believe Don't be silly. They haven't hotdropped 10 titans that I've heard of.
Now they've hotdropped frigate roams. And hotdropped titans on welpfleet hurricanes. But they're pretty cautious with their titans, once apparently their blob ran off when charged by a welpfleet. (Possibly because of the danger of being tackled and hotdropped by a ton of dreadnaughts I guess?).
You would probably get to where any real engagement would be trying to bait the enemy titans somewhere so that you can drop a ton of dreadnaughts on them. If successful, your blob will be at a significant advantage to their blob and you can go about bashing POS in relative safety.
baltec1 wrote:BOB (3 times), NC (before the cascade) the russians many many times, MC, ASCN, Tri multiple times ect all had the biggest blob in their time and were all beaten. It isn't good to depend too heavily on a single arm of decision. Though if you have an overpowered arm of decision, you should use it as much as possible while it's overpowered.
It would suck to be an alliance (over)depending heavily on turret titans and they somehow got nerfed just as an angry group of people started throwing dreadnaughts around like they were rifters (in comparison). Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:43:00 -
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Angel Lust wrote:I wonder what Soundwave will do when goons fields 3000 maels... and noone can kill them.... Don't be silly, we use drakes a lot more now.
It's more like 5 waves of 3000 drakes or something. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:46:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:It isn't good to depend too heavily on a single arm of decision. Though if you have an overpowered arm of decision, you should use it as much as possible while it's overpowered.
It would suck to be an alliance (over)depending heavily on turret titans and they somehow got nerfed just as an angry group of people started throwing dreadnaughts around like they were rifters (in comparison). Good sir, surely you cant be saying that the forces of the anti blue anti coalition coalition rely too much upon titans and have no other plans! Oh ho. Well they have tengufleets, which are very ~elite pvp~ and also provide us with great killmails.
Well surely the fact we only want turret titans nerfed to help us means the democratically elected CSM will definitely stomp the Mittani's well thought out, researched and documented evidence for overpoweredness and subsequent need for nerfs.
Cause we're goons and we always lie.
That said, if dreads are more cost effective now, that can only improve (unless titans actually get buffed, you know). Someday BoB 5.0 (these things take time) won't be so daring to swing their "~elite pvp~ titan blob" in people's faces because a dreadnaught fleet might cut it off. Instead we'll be sieging 200 dreads on a POS and daring them to come save it.
What are they gonna do, nerf dreadnaught tracking even more? Haha .... no wait a sec. Luckily my alt will go for the Phoenix, go go Citadel Cruise Missiles!
Of course people could just make ever more titans, but if we spam dreads the whole problem might be lessened. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 19:57:00 -
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Feligast wrote:The problem becomes when you think "35 more titans" is what anyone means by "support" Well, I would imagine support would be supercarriers with fighters?
Uh, what am I saying, titans are like 4x more expensive than supercarriers they should be far better because their cost balances them. Silly goon me ! Titans should get big rep bonuses as well as be able to use remote reps and fighters. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:07:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:They would lose a couple hundred players but it would be less painful in the long run for the health of the future of the game. THey might lose BoB, and having an ~elite pvp~ contingent is vital to the health of any internet spaceships game. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:31:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The smaller 0.0 alliances are also suffering because again, no counter available for them. The only power in all of EVE that could field enough dreads to make the difference is the CFC and even then the few hundred dreads would not be expected to survive the fight.
We are lucky in that we can come up with a counter, be it dreadswarm or just building more titans but for the vast bulk of EVE, they're ******. Yeah, getting 100 or so dreads who are happy to die in their 2bil+ ship is.. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:41:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: Yeah, getting 100 or so dreads who are happy to die in their 2bil+ ship is..
I'm sure we could talk test into it I'd give them major "props" if they were indeed to hotdrop 100 dreads into a Raiden. titan blob
I'd also hope the rest of the CFC wouldn't be easily outdone like that. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 23:04:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Headerman wrote:Too bad MM didnt use a similar fleet to defend their space. Maybe they shouldn't have sold/RMT'd it all away hey :) How can you not see how big an issue supercap balancing and proliferation is? Seriously. Are you intentionally ignoring it because you benefit from it, or are you just that dumb? Does it matter? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.29 01:12:00 -
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Tore Vest wrote: You keep talking about how bad titans are against small allianses.... but not talking about how bad a blob of goons & co are against the same ppl.... Just say it.... Supers are in your way for nullsec dominance
Grath Telkin wrote:Goons and the CFC are making a massive push to get people into titans right now, their industry is literally churning them out and an amazing speed, as well as dreads. Aww man, the secret it is out, we'll mass titans and win whether or not they get nerfed. Your SPAIs, sir, are good at their job.
Still, I'm sure a lot of CFC pilots would love to play Never Log in Titan Alt online, so nerfs are a-ok as well. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.29 05:08:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:We hit them in strategic spots to cut up their space, stop the supply of ships, trap their capitals, and remove key station services. Key money making towers were then hit and taken down along with ratting stations and we captured two key systems which allowed access to all of their space.
But I suppose this too is not what you are looking for? Nah goons are bad at eve.
We're about to be kicked out of Dek in just a little bit by the completely balanced
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.01 02:46:00 -
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Berke Negri wrote:John Maynard Keynes wrote:How can one beat a subcap blob without having another subcap blob? (Hint: Small alliances don't have subcap blobs) hint: your joe everyman small alliance doesn't have thirty titans Heh, if you have thirty turret titans you can kick people back to NPC 0.0
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.02 00:26:00 -
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Lanasak wrote:oh and let me show you the very expensive and large ship that people use to get supercapitals into a system
[Kestrel, New Setup 1] Cynosural Field Generator I Nice one! Interesting fit, seems to lack something...
Delici Feelgood wrote:He's afraid his "winky" might shrink into none existance if he admits that Goons have to compensate for their lack of skills with using a meta win stratergy and have to ask CCP to nerfbat their foes. Haven't you heard, there was a PL spai that leaked the fact we are producing tons of titans. I have no idea if it's true but why would he lie? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.03.02 00:31:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Lanasak wrote:oh and let me show you the very expensive and large ship that people use to get supercapitals into a system
[Kestrel, New Setup 1] Cynosural Field Generator I Nice one! Interesting fit, seems to lack something... A civ gun. Because if you're gonna die you might as well got on one mail Ah right, get that one bullet to plink the shields of an Avatar (just as it LAZ0RS you to hell) so you can get on its killmail. Perfect! Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
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