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TeddyBr FTW
Caldari TeddyBr's Revenge
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Posted - 2008.03.04 20:50:00 -
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The Goons are soon to be dying. Come on over to see why... and how to help out.
Goonie Gasbags On Notice: Death Is Coming
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Quelque Chose
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.04 21:45:00 -
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Edited by: Quelque Chose on 04/03/2008 21:56:35
Originally by: Information Minister
Looking at the ships they're using I very much doubt it costs them 20-30 mil per flying bomb.
Given that they don't post their losses I'm not sure where you're getting this. My figure comes from one of the involved parties, though of course his reliability is always in question. If you watch the video, you'll see a number of battleships in there including a smartbombing raven.
*edit* Yeah I know, learn how to read a KB, right? Even by the cost estimates here in a Brutix the biggest haul per goon on the first page looks like about 8mil. If that's your idea of a for- profit activity then maybe I should donate you some cash -- point still stands. ______________________________
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Information Minister
The Ministry of Truth
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Posted - 2008.03.04 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: Information Minister on 04/03/2008 23:20:38
Originally by: Quelque Chose Edited by: Quelque Chose on 04/03/2008 21:56:35
Originally by: Information Minister
Looking at the ships they're using I very much doubt it costs them 20-30 mil per flying bomb.
Given that they don't post their losses I'm not sure where you're getting this.
If I revealed my source, he would be suffer great harm. I'm sure you can understand my reticence in the matter.
Quote: If that's your idea of a for- profit activity then maybe I should donate you some cash -- point still stands.
You probably should. Let me know when to check my account.
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Your Favorite
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Posted - 2008.03.04 23:45:00 -
[274]
This whole post is based on a spineless clan that is plagiarizing historical Muslim sayings in what they probably consider a comical scenario. The fact of the matter is they are probably tired of mounting losses and boredom of not being able to effectively closeout their stagnant effort to hold delve and other contested space. So hiring out to the teenagers that play to suicide bomb defenseless pilots and sending much older accounts out to take advantage of CCP inability to establish actual control in Hi-Sec seems a more viable option. Now I know there are a couple big words in there and likely some sensitive subjects for you GS pilots but maybe your mommyÆs or the older more non-chalant members can read them for you guys.
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Scoundrelus
Dark Tornado Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2008.03.04 23:55:00 -
[275]
Well if it makes you all feel any better, a member of Goonswarm accidentally sent me 800 mil isk while doing a character trade with another person. Don't ask me how.
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Kegan Coldwyn
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Posted - 2008.03.05 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Alanna Kereshkova I've just had a look at the Jhidswarm's kill board and I must say some of the set ups for mining barges they have killed are truely pathetic!
What are the miners thinking of?
You spend upwards of 60m ISK on a barge and outfit it with 3 strip miners at, say 10m each, then you add cargo expanders and expensive rigs to add even further to the hold you have.
What have some of you in the way of a tank?
Civilian shield boosters!, shield rechargers or simply no tank at all !!
I'm sure as Hell if I'd spent over 240m on a set up I'd put shield hardeners in there or an armour plate!
Some of you deserve to be ganked.
Around two months did not wear my hulk.
Throughout the past month may play 5 hours
I was using Civilian shield boosters simply because I do not have the time or desire to play online eve as I would like
And I do not like mining was something to be learned if my corp needed support, and therefore I can not seriously
I believe very sincerely bad taste these comments
And I do not regret having lost, it was something to that for entertainment.
But if I tell you that when I read an item on this, I think about jihad very very bad taste. And should give them more of a shame to make jokes with this issue. I have had friends that have been saved from death by 15 minutes
And at the beginning I took it as a joke but reading some reviews give me very bad vibrations. As this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=718396&page=2#31
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Zorlag
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.05 04:59:00 -
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let's all play the exciting game, asian macrominer using babelfish or just plain illiterate
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Jhyme
Amarr Igneus Auctorita
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Posted - 2008.03.05 05:29:00 -
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The distance between .7 and .8 system sec status is now huge. Before it wasn't even noticeable.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.05 07:22:00 -
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Originally by: Your Favorite This whole post is based on a spineless clan that is plagiarizing historical Muslim sayings in what they probably consider a comical scenario. The fact of the matter is they are probably tired of mounting losses and boredom of not being able to effectively closeout their stagnant effort to hold delve and other contested space. So hiring out to the teenagers that play to suicide bomb defenseless pilots and sending much older accounts out to take advantage of CCP inability to establish actual control in Hi-Sec seems a more viable option. Now I know there are a couple big words in there and likely some sensitive subjects for you GS pilots but maybe your mommyÆs or the older more non-chalant members can read them for you guys.
lol
Quote:
[ 2006.08.25 22:30:46 ] fire 59 > mate, im 230 and 6 ft 3, half caste and train every day
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.05 07:50:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny There are no innocent people
Lies. I am so claiming to be innocent of any wrongdoing or rock munching.
/me hides his mining barge level 3 on his skill sheet ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
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Kozmic
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Posted - 2008.03.05 08:13:00 -
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I didnt go thru all the pages but
Can I have your stuff?
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Alanna Kereshkova
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Posted - 2008.03.05 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Kegan Coldwyn
Originally by: Alanna Kereshkova snipped for brevity
Around two months did not wear my hulk.
Throughout the past month may play 5 hours
I was using Civilian shield boosters simply because I do not have the time or desire to play online eve as I would like
And I do not like mining was something to be learned if my corp needed support, and therefore I can not seriously
I believe very sincerely bad taste these comments
And I do not regret having lost, it was something to that for entertainment.
But if I tell you that when I read an item on this, I think about jihad very very bad taste. And should give them more of a shame to make jokes with this issue. I have had friends that have been saved from death by 15 minutes
And at the beginning I took it as a joke but reading some reviews give me very bad vibrations. As this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=718396&page=2#31
I'll let you into a secret friend. You can train your character for better skills, like those shield hardeners that might've saved your life, without actually being online.
Yes training can be done whilst NOT playing!
If you have a busy real life but have a few minutes spare you can log on and change completed skills. We all do it.
As to being offensive, the post I wrote was tame in comparison to others posted here. You were one of many that didn't have a decent tank, others had small shield boosters which would do little or nothing when faced by a BC with blasters.
My advice is to grow a thick skin. (that means to not get upset by things too easily).
Eve is a harsh universe, not hearts and flowers.
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Kegan Coldwyn
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Posted - 2008.03.05 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Alanna Kereshkova
Originally by: Kegan Coldwyn
Originally by: Alanna Kereshkova snipped for brevity
Around two months did not wear my hulk.
Throughout the past month may play 5 hours
I was using Civilian shield boosters simply because I do not have the time or desire to play online eve as I would like
And I do not like mining was something to be learned if my corp needed support, and therefore I can not seriously
I believe very sincerely bad taste these comments
And I do not regret having lost, it was something to that for entertainment.
But if I tell you that when I read an item on this, I think about jihad very very bad taste. And should give them more of a shame to make jokes with this issue. I have had friends that have been saved from death by 15 minutes
And at the beginning I took it as a joke but reading some reviews give me very bad vibrations. As this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=718396&page=2#31
I'll let you into a secret friend. You can train your character for better skills, like those shield hardeners that might've saved your life, without actually being online.
Yes training can be done whilst NOT playing!
If you have a busy real life but have a few minutes spare you can log on and change completed skills. We all do it.
As to being offensive, the post I wrote was tame in comparison to others posted here. You were one of many that didn't have a decent tank, others had small shield boosters which would do little or nothing when faced by a BC with blasters.
My advice is to grow a thick skin. (that means to not get upset by things too easily).
Eve is a harsh universe, not hearts and flowers.
OMG! I know that.
And I admit it was unwise
You have not discovered a new world
And I am not getting to comment on this issue as a player carefree.
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Lil'Red Ridin'Hood
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.05 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kozmic Can I have your stuff?
Anyone who still thinks this line is original or even funny should be suicide-ganked and podded by GS. Repeatedly.
Unfunny people suck. Can't we get a stickied thread where people can write that type of crap all day long?
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Jaegan
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.05 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lil'Red Ridin'Hood Anyone who still thinks this line is original or even funny should be suicide-ganked and podded by GS.
Unfunnyhadswarm? I don't know, it just doesn't roll off the tongue.
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TeddyBr FTW
Caldari TeddyBr's Revenge
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Posted - 2008.03.05 18:56:00 -
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I am providing a service of killing Goonies in high sec space.
This service is to provide an outlet for all the miners who have been killed off by the Goonies recently and any others who just plain don't like the Goonies. If enough isk is sent in I will hire a second merc group to hunt down their alt industrial corps to hurt their logistical capabilies. (Bob take notice plz)
Goonie Gasbags On Notice: Death Is Coming (R.E.P.O. Hired)
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.03.05 20:10:00 -
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Quote: Looking at the ships they're using I very much doubt it costs them 20-30 mil per flying bomb.
It should only cost them that much if they aren't insuring their ships...
I'll have to see if I can ship scan a couple of them tonight, if they're still in the Osmon area.
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Zorlag
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.05 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ulstan
Quote: Looking at the ships they're using I very much doubt it costs them 20-30 mil per flying bomb.
It should only cost them that much if they aren't insuring their ships...
I'll have to see if I can ship scan a couple of them tonight, if they're still in the Osmon area.
because really, who has 30 million isk to spend on a ship?
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Danfortman
Rogue Logistics Services Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2008.03.05 23:08:00 -
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Edited by: Danfortman on 05/03/2008 23:10:30 Griefers should not be able to Gank anyone in High sec. .5-1.0 end of story. They shouldn't even be able to pop a rookie ship without getting poped themselves. I see it all the time. These losers sit on gates and scan cargoes. When they find something good they destroy your ship and take whatever they can get. Now with them flying around killing everyone they can mining; its just terrible.
They should not be able to scan cargo with out aggression coming from that. Even better no one should be able to fire or even target anyone in high sec. That they do not have aggression with. Getting aggression in high should only happen if you Steal from someone or have kill rights. You should be able to fight in high under those circumstances and if you are currently at war with the pilot's corp/alliance. Yes high sec is patrolled by Concord but like your local police there going to get there during the act and in most cases save you. It takes time for them to show up is what i am saying. People should just not be allowed to commit crimes in high sec. I like the original post about making it harder for pilots to stay in high sec after repeated attempts to grief others. But my idea seems to work out better for people who don't want to pvp at all.
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Dreximus
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Posted - 2008.03.05 23:29:00 -
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*Gets in 100% thermal resistance suit* Ahem. So, this is a PvP only game is it?
Originally by: ISD Zhuge Liang
The Stations and Starbases forum is a place for discussion on labs, factories, station services, mining, manufacturing, refining, minerals, moon mining and other similar industrial topics relating to the non-pvp side of EVE.
Hurray there are official posts saying it has a non-PvP side! Post has been up since 2004, so obviously CCP must agree. Linkage
So, I agree, let's make the PENALTY harsher for the suicide gankers (no insurance payout at the least and possibly faster sec hit, possibly give the victim the ganker's insurance payout), but let's not remove the ABILITY to suicide gank. Even if the game has a non-pvp side that includes mining. I don't want this to be space-WoW any more than the pvp'rs even though I am definitely far more carebear than I am PvP. I do enjoy my occasional destructive runs through the can flippers and such. I like some Empire PvP. But I will say the consequences don't fit the crime on suicide ganks.
I'm suprised this gem has been overlooked for what I'm sure has been almost 4 years of PvP vs non-PvP arguments and flames.
Discuss. :)
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Jaegan
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.06 01:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jaegan on 06/03/2008 01:09:34
Quote: But my idea seems to work out better for people who don't want to pvp at all.
I have an even better idea for people who don't want to pvp at all: don't play Eve. It's not that kind of game.
Quote: Hurray there are official posts saying it has a non-PvP side!
If you choose to read it that way, by all means. If you'd rather read it properly, consider this... pvp is blue and pve is red. What Eve has is various shades of purple. It's a lovely, beautiful, epic purple game.
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Kahega Amielden
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Posted - 2008.03.06 01:20:00 -
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CCP made a conscious choice when they made EVE. They made 1.0 different than .5. Rather than simply making players unable to attack others in hisec, they simply made it hard and costly. This is why 1.0 systems really -are- more safe than .5 sec systems.
Suicide ganking is an intended game mechanic and it will not go away just because you failed to adapt.
tl;dr: L2P
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Cado Orgo
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.03.06 05:53:00 -
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My theory is that they're doing it because they're bored and want to **** off people so much that the people will form alliances and what not to try and kill them.
Like how the bulk of people in the game hated BoB and wanted to see them die. Now that they're pretty much done perhaps the Goons are trying to make people hate them so that people will try to destroy them.
Just a theory, not a very well thought out one and most likely not the best theory. But I like it.
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Danfortman
Rogue Logistics Services Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2008.03.06 06:31:00 -
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Edited by: Danfortman on 06/03/2008 06:33:26 "I have an even better idea for people who don't want to pvp at all: don't play Eve. It's not that kind of game."
Heres another way to phrase what CCP has done with eve. Griefers ability to gank people in high sec should be considered a over sight. Until CCP openly states that this is a intended aspect of the game. Until then we both can continue to say " this is how i play my game" and i can stand here saying "but this is the way things are." In other words players that gate camp in high sec and scan cargoes and suicide haulers. Along with other losers ganking Miners in belts. Are exploiting the game untill this issue can be addressed by CCP. So by all means Griefs continue to swear you have knowledge you claim to be Turth. But really have only your voice opinions to back it up.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.06 06:34:00 -
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Edited by: Surfin''s PlunderBunny on 06/03/2008 06:34:30 Wait, people hate us? I was unaware... I will take the matter up with our leadership
*edit* Woah... CCP has stated that suicide ganking is an intended feature of teh game MANY times... learn to use the search feature
Originally by: Avaricia look a goon lol
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Danfortman
Rogue Logistics Services Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2008.03.06 06:38:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny *edit* Woah... CCP has stated that suicide ganking is an intended feature of teh game MANY times... learn to use the search feature [:D
Prove it
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Lex Alandar
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Posted - 2008.03.06 07:07:00 -
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Please, encourage more of this "no insurance from concord kill" business.
Then everyone can get started on the next way to grief...can-flipping, then warping back out with under a minute left on your timer. Get the miner who has now got into a ship to f*** you up to lock you and agress just as the timer comes down, and boom, now the noob has no ship, OR insurance payout.
This entire thread is pathetic.
As mentioned, if you mine, and do not take ANY steps to protect yourself (aligning, fitting cloak, having an intel channel, being paranoid about local) then you have no excuse to whine.
All these things are necessary in lowsec, due to the nature of the game.
If you think there aren't consequences for those doing this, stop for just a second and look beyond the material **** that you've stated isn't a factor. Given there are plenty of people who support goonswarm, but I would hesitate a guess that there's more that hate them...and even more now that they've been on this campaign. This is how they've chosen to be known in EVE. The EVE universe changes based on the people, and politics.
You're right, murder in real life is unacceptable. What the goons are doing with this campaign has sparked all sorts of response, so just shut up about consequences.
It's been said over and over. I will say it in my way.
If you want to sit in a high chair, and have blizzard, or some other company sitting there, with a spoon full o' RPG, cooing "here comes the choochoo train" please, go play one of those other sad excuses for a game.
If you want to fight tooth and claw, life and limb, for every advance, with almost certain peril at every gate, in a universe where the only constants are death and refining taxes (don't forget the unmistakable influence of humans, which is what you really seem to take issue with here) then play EVE.
If it's the first option, or neither, please gtfo, you're only feeding the goonies the tears they run their failing death-machine on. As already mentioned. Several times. But you just keep on posting. So I'll just keep on writing short sentences. But that one got a bit long.
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Jack Brazen
Blue. Blue Federation
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Posted - 2008.03.06 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jaegan pvp is blue and pve is red.
I need to put this in my bio - finally show those damn Reds the truth! ----- In EVE - never bring a knife to a knife-fight. |
Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2008.03.06 08:30:00 -
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Edited by: Karyuudo Tydraad on 06/03/2008 08:34:24
Originally by: Danfortman
Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny *edit* Woah... CCP has stated that suicide ganking is an intended feature of teh game MANY times... learn to use the search feature [:D
Prove it
Sure. Proof
My favourite bits are:
Originally by: CCP In the universe of EVE, no space is 100% safe. It is vital for every player to realize this as soon as possible after starting playing the game.
Concord can't prevent all crimes
While concord and faction police forces have a firm grip on all empire systems with a security rating of 0.5 and above, they are not powerful enough to make attacks impossible (nor are they meant to be).
Originally by: CCP
Kamikaze attacks
Despite the lack of absolute safety, empire space is still relatively safe. The biggest threat to the average player in Empire space is the risk of ôkamikazeö attacks when carrying a cargo of noteworthy value. Just like on modern day earth, the risk of attack rises with the amount of money sticking out of your pockets. If attacking you becomes a lucrative enough option, the best of neighbourhoods may become unsafe for you to walk around in.
Some players are willing to lose ships and their good standing with Concord for the hope of quick profit from a juicy loot drop. The ôkamikazeö attackers usually work in pairs or groups. They scan the cargo holds of bypassing pilots flying easily destructable ships until they see something worthy of a ship loss. They then blow up the ship and and while Concord do what they do best, a second character picks up the loot from the shipÆs wreck.
This is not seen as an exploit of the intended game mechanics and there is no compensation or reimbursement to be had for losses caused by attacks in secure space.
and
Originally by: CCP The intention was never to make attacks completely impossible or completely unprofitable. It is up to each player to take measures to ensure his own safety when travelling. This is especially important to keep in mind when oneÆs cargo is of extreme value.
Edit: Linkified!
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Tuberider
Caldari Pothouse Cartel
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Posted - 2008.03.06 10:13:00 -
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'Eve Online is a bold SF online role-playing game that challenges players to survive in a hostile universe of traders, pirates, corporations, and police. It's a gigantic game: the huge playable universe contains some 5,000 star systems to explore. Your options are almost unlimited. You can play a pirate, sticking to the fringes and raiding player-character ships, you can mine for a corporation or play a privateer and help guard against pirates;
taken from some of the original text, it mentions pirating more than once and challenges the player to survive in a HOSTILE universe nowhere in eve is safe its not mean't to be
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