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Posted - 2008.02.27 14:27:00 -
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Originally by: Nasty eX
Originally by: brainball
Its actually quite fun to suicide a ship into the macrominers and other carebearing infidels.
There you go, yet another gutless comment by a gutless coward. These guys are frail to say the least, with no courage or self worth, not even a worth for the greater good. They are mere pests on the general universe of Eve Online, and for CCP to allow them to use "Jihad" and "Infidels" would suggest that it would be fine for people to start using other anti-social comments freely.
And, for the record, this is an alt. For I am in an Alliance that is blue to Goon, but in shame I will not post under my real characters name because of their recent cowardly actions. There is talk among many about seperating themselves from Goon because of all this...
usually people are really happy when macro miners are killed. what's your deal?
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Originally by: Zeba Well of course it is but the point is I'll notice local swelling up like a ballon. And if you manage to pop a hulk or two no worries I have plenty moar.
it only takes 1 battleship to waste a tanked hulk fyi :).
as someone with a goon roommate I understand your intentions, however, don't say you can kill a non-AFK miner, I've seen the way you guys work you fly around, fuind them, get set up, smartbombing 4 at once for the win, and then BOOM!
but an active miner has more than the time they wuld need to get away form you guys.
and a full smartbomb fit will kill most hulks, but not well tanked ones. just saying :P
well I don't mine other than 0.0 space so go go go.
there are goon and then there are goons. Some Operate solo with a covert ops with warping and dont give them a chance to escape and others do silly things like use 4 bs to smart bomb a group of Mac's i Think i heard you in the background of TS when they were doing that yesterday :).
rofl, actually you might have :P
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ardan Tanir thanks goonie¦s...you killed my hulk (sarcasm on)and no..i dont buy a new one from you. (sarcasm off)
i quit this game. all my chars on all 3 accounts will be deleted tomorrow. i was a pure miner and you destroyed my fun in this game with this silly "event".
rofl troll post :P
if you were really a miner with 3 accounts you'd have at least 2 billion isk. and losing ONE ship wouldn't do ****.
hell people lose what 3 billion fitted faction battleships and they don't quit :P
lol. if it was suppose to be a joke then meh, 3/10
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Tramp Oline The only thing that will be accomplished by all of this is a mass banning of a bunch of GoonSwarm accounts.
Others have tried the mass killings of people in empire before such as the smartbombings in Jita and that just ended up getting them banned.
Just because you can do something doesn't mean that it doesn't come with consequences. When enough people petition these kills, CCP will end up reimbursing the lost hulks and banning the killers.
In the end, the carebear miners will get the last laugh.
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I somehow don't believe you
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:42:00 -
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hmm I just noticed this reminds me of the war on BoB.
people used to talk about it, like all the time but no one did anything about it. there would be a corp or two but for some reason when goonswarm did it people started to join with them. and not joined once goons started winning but joined in the first year to fight a battle that was suppose to be unwinnable.
and now people that normally wouldn't go out and fight macro miners might just because goonswarm is.
I'm not syaing they are the frist it's happen before, but the image of goonswarm seems to pull in people that normally wouldn't fight.
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: Ardan Tanir Edited by: Ardan Tanir on 27/02/2008 22:36:29 no it isnt a fake. all my money is transfered to a friend in the game. CCP is losing a costumer with 3 accounts tomorrow
edit: and i am sure i will not be the only one who left the game. congrats goonie¦s you realy won this game. time to take off the server cluster now.
We don't know if this dude is telling the truth but CCP DO have records and if they see on those records large amounts of customers canceling accounts AFTER they where the victims of a suicide gank do you really think that CCP are going to sit and say "oh well its a harsh dangerous world"
as someone who has played since beta, yes, yes I do.
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew
Originally by: Tramp Oline Others have tried the mass killings of people in empire before such as the smartbombings in Jita and that just ended up getting them banned.
Actually, if it's the incident I'm thinking of (and it would have been Yulai, Jita was nothing back then), they were not banned for the killings themselves, but for continuing after a GM told them to stop.
Which is something the swarm should probably bear in mind
and didn't the goons just get told keep doing it by having a news post?
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: AndrewRyan We don't know if this dude is telling the truth but CCP DO have records and if they see on those records large amounts of customers canceling accounts AFTER they where the victims of a suicide gank do you really think that CCP are going to sit and say "oh well its a harsh dangerous world"
Forgot about the 21 day trial on Steam eh? Any possible account cancellations over this bit of fun will be dwarfed by the mob thats coming from there.
and new players will find that mining is more pro*****ble!
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 27/02/2008 22:54:34
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: MotherMoon as someone who has played since beta, yes, yes I do.
They nerfed the privateers didn't they? If this "Jihad" starts affecting CCPs pennies they will do something about it. Im not make a judgement about what the goons are doing as being right or wrong just pointing out the facts and in most cases game developers ignore isolated threats of cancelling subs.
But when it seriously begins to affect things they take action every time.
oh no not that again, the privateers were using a system in a way that CCP didn't want it to be used.
CCP WANT suicide ganking in the game. They don't want space to be safe.
however declaring war on everyone just makes high sec a place you can shoot at anything and IGNORE conchord.
goons are not doing this, they are losing ships.
And by nerf what do you mean? They didn't STOP you privateers form wardecing everyone, they just made it more expensive. If anything CCP would make it more expensive.
and trust me people would still do it. unlike privateers who couldn't take it because they sucked.
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan Edited by: AndrewRyan on 27/02/2008 22:55:56
Originally by: MotherMoon as someone who has played since beta, yes, yes I do.
They nerfed the privateers didn't they? If this "Jihad" starts affecting CCPs pennies they will do something about it. Im not make a judgement about what the goons are doing as being right or wrong just pointing out the facts and in most cases game developers ignore isolated threats of cancelling subs.
But when it seriously begins to affect things they take action every time.
Originally by: Zeba Forgot about the 21 day trial on Steam eh? Any possible account cancellations over this bit of fun will be dwarfed by the mob thats coming from there.
And how many of those special trial accounts will become subbed accounts if they get suicide ganked a lot?
Again I'm not saying what the goons are doing is right or wrong because it doesn't affect me and I couldn't care less, but if what they are doing is as widespread and common as the propaganda and forum bull**** makes it out to be somethings gonna have to give.
only ships getting suicide ganked are tech 2 mining barges.
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew
Originally by: MotherMoon and didn't the goons just get told keep doing it by having a news post?
Didn't PrismX recently write a blog that basically announced the destruction of the Cemetery a few days after it featured in a news post?
And to quote CCP Ginger from that thread:
Originally by: CCP Ginger News coverage of this sort is handled by the ISD Interstellar Correspondents team and they are allowed to write about player news that comes across their way, we dont restrict what they can write about so a news item isnt an official CCP endorsement of any player activity, its just journo's writing about something of interest.
that's a database probem. CCP have featured can art and then deleted it right after.
it's cans in space:P I see your point but I don't think it's the same :P
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Posted - 2008.02.27 23:04:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: MotherMoon oh no not that again, the privateers were using a system in a way that CCP didn't want it to be used.
CCP WANT suicide ganking in the game. They don't want space to be safe.
however declaring war on everyone just makes high sec a place you can shoot at anything and IGNORE conchord.
goons are not doing this, they are losing ships.
And by nerf what do you mean? They didn't STOP you privateers form wardecing everyone, they just made it more expensive. If anything CCP would make it more expensive.
and trust me people would still do it. unlike privateers who couldn't take it because they sucked.
CCP wanted wardecs in the game and they designed it the way the privateers used it they just took a existing game mechanic to the extreme but after the fuss and the cancelled subs and the whining reached a critical mass they pulled out the nerf hammer and put a stop to it.
Just the same as the goons are using an existing mechanic to the extreme and when the cancelled subs and whining and fuss reaches its critical mass its probable they will do something about it as well.
And I'm sure they wont directly stop it they make it more difficult or expensive like the privateer nerf, whether its a buffed concord or something idk.
privateers were not declaring war on corporations.
they were declaring war on EVERYONE. and the reason was because it protected them.
CCP NEVER wanted someone to make highsafe safe for them to kill whoever they wanted, I have dev quotes, they got ****ed at privateers for using them.
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Posted - 2008.02.27 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Matthew
Originally by: MotherMoon I see your point but I don't think it's the same :P
Well, wasn't really trying to comment on whether there should be a change in this case, just that featuring in a news article is no guarantee in itself that you're safe from change.
very true I take it back :P that is a flawed logic to use to back up my point.
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Posted - 2008.02.27 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: SPIONKOP
Originally by: karttoon Edited by: karttoon on 27/02/2008 21:24:48
Originally by: Lazarus Short I'm with Cameron Vayle on this: the day I get ganked, EVE loses at least one customer.
20 mil to anybody that pops him in a hulk or mackinaw. Eve mail me when it's done.
Your such a nice chap. Dim, maybe a little stupid, not a lot between the ears I suspect and fail to see the big picture only your own selfish attitude.
To you maybe a 100mil for a ship is lose change. To many who mine their butts of for weeks to afford such a ship its a lot, maybe all they have. For some mindless thug to take that away from them in "Safe" space is wrong.
You only care about yourself, shame on you and shame on your alliance.
When you get to school tomorrow I sure hope some big ass bully pays you a visit, see how you like it.
Suicide Ganking in Empire will drive new players away and could affect the future of Eve. We need new players to replace those who leave. These days when an established player leaves for whatever reason, I suspect we lose more than just 1 account but at least 2 as established players tend to have multiple accounts. But I guess you don't give a **** about that do you?
I've never seen a new player in a hulk.
this will drive up prices and make the playing field more profitable more new players.
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Posted - 2008.02.27 23:44:00 -
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Originally by: IlIlIlI lIlIlIl Ardan Tanir's final straw: http://www.jihadswarm.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=278
Mining veld. In a hulk. In highsec.
I remember being a newbie looking for a way to make money in my shiny new bantam. I flew to a belt. No rocks. I flew to another belt. No rocks.
If we chase out all the hulks, maybe there will be rocks for newbies.
shh stop using logic :P
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: IlIlIlI lIlIlIl Ardan Tanir's final straw: http://www.jihadswarm.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=278
Mining veld. In a hulk. In highsec.
I remember being a newbie looking for a way to make money in my shiny new bantam. I flew to a belt. No rocks. I flew to another belt. No rocks.
If we chase out all the hulks, maybe there will be rocks for newbies.
Your not very consistent in your bull cookies are you?
Originally by: IlIlIlI lIlIlIl
I operate in a very narrow band of security status. Man up and go to lowsec, or wimp out and stick to 0.8+.
Not many Newbie bantams leave 0.9-1.0 because their ships are made of tissue paper and cant handle the rats.
Why is it you try to morally justify what you are doing? is it because you kinda feel in yourself that you might very well be overstepping the bounds? Your doing it because you want to do it for fun and its not for anyone except your corp bosses and CCP to tell you otherwise.
So please explain the mother theresa act.
THEY DON"T ATTACK ANYTHING BUT HULKS AND MACK! YOU ARE DUMB.
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: SPIONKOP
Originally by: MotherMoon
I've never seen a new player in a hulk.
this will drive up prices and make the playing field more profitable more new players.
Your responce is flawed in several areas.
New players who join the game as miners soon realise that training/saving for the best mining ship is not worth it. Their "end game" is taken away from them so some will not stay in the game for as long. Those new miners that insist on training for and flying hulks will soon lose interest when some ass hole blows them up in 0.7. Cost to agressor maybe 0.01% of his wealth, cost to hulk pilot, maybe everything?
Sure prices will rise but its all relative isn't it. If the basic building blocks for all items goes up in price so does everything else, its called inflation. Whilst people may have more ISK in their wallet their "wealth" actually goes down as they can buy less with it.
In the old days of eve risk/reward was the key to everthing. Now the risk/cost to the empire ganker is next to nothing. A few mill for the ship and insurance, nothing for players/alliances that have billions of isk as lose change. The player who just quit the game just lost everything.
I wonder what would happen if empire became 0.0. No police, no sentrys? Is that what people want. I am sure it would be fun. For a while anyways. Ships would double/triple in cost. Within weeks player numbers would halve then halve again. You would have the hard core players left. Hardly anyone would mine. Ships/Ammo would soon run dry as the materials for building them dry up. Shuttle and NPC goods would be used as the raw materials but that would lead to ISK drying up.
Soon there would be no one left to shoot.
It would fix the lag problems I guess and jita would be quiet.
End Game?
so what your saying is that with this goon thing it will be more pro*****ble to mine in low sec?
because they aren't ganking players in low sec.
why would anyone still be mining veld in a hulk?
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan Edited by: AndrewRyan on 28/02/2008 00:11:43
Originally by: MotherMoon
THEY DON"T ATTACK ANYTHING BUT HULKS AND MACK! YOU ARE DUMB.
Your the Dumb one, go read the news report and the goons kill board they are claiming to be ganking other ships and haulers as well. Besides wtf are you doing? why aren't you posting your usual attention whoring "olook evrye boyd! mi drunked!!"
I took your arguments apart and you have resorted to personal name calling well done
rofl
indeed
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Xoria Mua This is not so much about suicide ganking someone. It is about one of the largest if not the largest alliance in the game ganking a bunch of defenseless boats for no more reason then they can. Mind you this is in high sector space where it is supposed to be relatively safe. What does this say for the game? Why would any one want to join up for this? So I will tell you this I am gone. I have two accounts and no I will not be giving any of you creeps my stuff. I refuse to be the butt of this idiocy and will warn any one to not bother to play this game. I invested over a year of time into manufactoring skills not fighting skills and this sort of twit play is a game breaker for me. Not that I expect you to care about my leaving, however think what if a couple thousand people decide to do this. What will happen to your game then. This sort of stupidity is a game killer.
well then I guess we'll only have 36,000 people online instead of 39,000
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Posted - 2008.02.28 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Zorlag Edited by: Zorlag on 28/02/2008 00:57:51
Originally by: Maraa Jayde
Jump clone, get a friend to pod you, and use that 50M for your merc fund.
It's not a bounty on his pod, just here :( i'd get a locator agent but mine is like 10 jumps away whereas defenseless hulks are only 3 jumps away, soooo
well if I]we see him :P
Also I don't understand what makes people think that everyone is mining in hulks in .7 sec space?
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:26:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: Kahega Amielden Methinks you're taking my post out of context/missing the point.
There is no misinterpretation or context you said they only target mining barges when in fact they have also targeted a newb in a Bantam.
fixed it for you
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:41:00 -
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Originally by: IlIlIlI lIlIlIl
Originally by: Zeba Drop those t2 strips for t1 and you can fit a gistii-ish t2 tank with shield rigs that should shrug off most normal gankers.
But really you should invest in the gistiis anyway, just in case.
yeah but these players should be mining in high sec anyways, who would mine in 1.0 space with a fully fitted badass ship that should be in 0.0 space.
I mean really most of goon space is open for mining am I wrong?
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt Guys, I don't know what everyone is getting all upset about. The rogue elements in goonswarm who are mercilessly killing innocent hulk pilots have recieved a stern talking to, and have been put in the corner.
Goonies are a peace loving people. We simply want all war to end, in both 0.0, and in Empire. Anyone who feels offended should continue to express their concerns, or convo me in game. We can talk about this over tea, and come to a mutual agreement. Any Hulk is free to mine in our lush belts in Scalding Pass. You can inquire within about our belt-sharing program.
With this program fully in place, we will usher in a new era of peace, a Golden age of Eve, where Goon and non-Goon live in harmony, and war is a thing of the past. Arkonor and Mercoxit will flow from belts like mana fell from the sky. And you will know happiness.
so basiclly you want miners in 0.0 sopace selling to you to fuel your war machine while providing protection to them and not to those in high sec?
mob at it's best!
everyone wins :)
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:53:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 28/02/2008 02:53:11
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: Kahega Amielden Methinks you're taking my post out of context/missing the point.
There is no misinterpretation or context you said they only target mining barges when in fact they have also targeted a newb in a Bantam.
fixed it for you
Again your either wonderfully misinformed or talking out of your backside about things you cannot even be bothered to do a little research into yourself, There are 2 newbie bantam kills on the first page alone.
sigh
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: MotherMoon sigh
Does that mean your finally going to stop posting rubbish and untruths?
I don't think I need to point it out , I think everyone but you gets it anyways.
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Posted - 2008.02.28 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: MotherMoon privateers were not declaring war on corporations.
they were declaring war on EVERYONE. and the reason was because it protected them.
CCP NEVER wanted someone to make highsafe safe for them to kill whoever they wanted, I have dev quotes, they got ****ed at privateers for using them.
Suicide ganking is the same, it allows a person to be as safe as everyone else in high sec until they choose to engage exactly the same way as the privateers could be selective about their wardecs.
hey how did I miss this post!
rofl your not here to attack suicide ganking your just an angry old alt that used to run around high sec without a carte in the world.
hmmm where is the old killmail if I remember your allaince had so many noob kills it wasn't funny. you war decs every new corp that was trying to get into eve. you kill countless miners just because you could. and they could do nothing as you warp scarmbled them and you didn't get shot at by conchord. you just ran around killing everything that didn't want a war with you and at no cost.
cheap PvP.
I'm not an eve fanboy, there are lots of thing I don't like about eve, I jsut happen to be a privateer HATEBOY.
so I'm sorry but as a person who has alts in corps like eve uni, and other corps that like to help new players, you were a horrible nusence that everyone HATED.
you didn't jsut kill players in tech 2 mining ships or "batams"
you killed everything that moved and you didn't care who they were.
you had no mission. you had no cause no reason.
sure the goons reasons might not be the best but you got me when you decided to say that this is the same as the privateers.
Basically your saying that killing miners in mostly tech 2 ships (and 2 batams) is the same as killing EVERYONE mostly new players in high sec, especialy miners who can't fight back.
here lets me make a list for you.
GOON ATTACK -gankers comes in and takes out a hulk -ganker dies hulk dies (here is where I add I personally believe this should give out insurance)
PRIVATEER ATTACK -gankers come into system, kill the frist auto pilot person they see -gankers don't die -gankers continue to go and kill miners -gankers don't die to conchond -gankers run and kill everyone war decced coming in and out of a station, a place where a goon ganker could NEVER GANK, becuase the turrets go off right away and conchord is waiting at the station as well, not like in belts. -gankers then go off to have more fun usally in groups of 10, or then seperating to kill more people that don't feel like fighting or know how too. -gankers continue to dodge conchord
CCP made wardec for one reason only to allow for two warring factions to fight in high sec systems. However people came to understand that in this righ tit was flawed because you use it to dodge conchord if you had a lot of money Suicide ganking stops you form continuing untill you buy and fit a new ship.
but PLEASE don't say that this is anywhere nearthe same level as the Privateers.
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Posted - 2008.02.28 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: MenanceWhite
Originally by: AndrewRyan Edited by: AndrewRyan on 28/02/2008 03:00:58
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: MotherMoon sigh
Does that mean your finally going to stop posting rubbish and untruths?
I don't think I need to point it out , I think everyone but you gets it anyways.
You dont "get" AndrewRyan.
The Number one is not a number two
The colour red is not the colour green
A Bantam is not a mining barge or Exhumer therefore the Goons are not just attacking barges and Exhumers.
You forgot that The Number 50 is not 5000 therefore it's a just a few people and not the whole goonfleet alliance
also that 2 batams is not 100 hulks
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Posted - 2008.02.28 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: AndrewRyan Edited by: AndrewRyan on 28/02/2008 03:25:04
Originally by: MotherMoon GOON ATTACK -Goonswarm member comes into local with a red minus and ganks you before you have time to react
PRIVATEER ATTACK. -EVEmail warning that in 24 hours XXXXXX corp can freely attack you -Red star on player as he enters local informing you a war target is around
Fixed.
At least with a war dec you know you might be at greater risk than normal. And no I was not a Privateer btw.
fixed for you again.
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Posted - 2008.02.28 03:33:00 -
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Edited by: MotherMoon on 28/02/2008 03:32:55
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: AndrewRyan Edited by: AndrewRyan on 28/02/2008 03:25:04
Originally by: MotherMoon GOON ATTACK -Goonswarm member comes into local with a red minus and ganks you before you have time to react
PRIVATEER ATTACK. -EVEmail warning that in 24 hours XXXXXX corp can freely attack you -Red star on player as he enters local informing you a war target is around
Fixed.
At least with a war dec you know you might be at greater risk than normal. And no I was not a Privateer btw.
fixed for you again.
No its not fixed because before the News report a lot of people would not have known about it and would not have changed their standings accordingly, with a wardec you are not reliant on 3rd party sources of information to be aware of the increased risk.
Anyway I'm seriously done with this thread cuz it looks like I'm cussing the goons for what they are doing when I'm not I'm arguing with people who have faff all to do with it who are just posting rubbish.
I'm sorry who doesn't have goons set to red unless they are allied? your argument was that it was random players.
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Posted - 2008.02.28 03:41:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Geez ladies..
haha :P
ok ok I'll stop :P
... like hell! to the very end!
haha but really no I'll stop :P
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Posted - 2008.02.28 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: Postlatta Mouseanon
Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: Postlatta Mouseanon
Originally by: IlIlIlI lIlIlIl
Originally by: Postlatta Mouseanon I'm a 0.0 veteran who had to run back to empire with my tail between my legs
Pretty sure I fixed that for you. Let me know if I'm wrong.
You're wrong.
Post with your main.
Kiss me deeply, passionately, and with Tongue.
I think they would actually help you if you talk to them.
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Posted - 2008.02.28 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
Originally by: Cygnus Scott Why should I do that? What's in it for me? Sorry but you blowing up Hulks doesn't hurt me at all.
Oh, so you just wanted to hurf blurf about some stupid crap? Got it.
clap clap clap
you tell him
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2008.02.28 20:17:00 -
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from all accounts seems like they didn't have the grit to prevail in 0.0
quoting the guy bashing goonswarm, all I have to say is
indeed
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2008.02.28 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Cygnus Scott
Originally by: MotherMoon from all accounts seems like they didn't have the grit to prevail in 0.0
quoting the guy bashing goonswarm, all I have to say is
indeed
Yeah that's a lot of red, but a good deal of that red doesn't belong to GoonSwarm. What did things look like at the onset of this little conflict? I'm relatively new to EVE so I don't know what it looked like 6 months ago. How much has BoB actually lost? How much have the Goons actually won?
I'm not looking at the red, I'm looking at the goonswarm sov, you might not get it but that's a lot of space to own, goonswarm was pressed back to one station in 0.0 space at one point.
here's an older look about 7 months ago? http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/crii/26.03.109.jpg
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2008.02.28 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ioci
Originally by: MotherMoon from all accounts seems like they didn't have the grit to prevail in 0.0
quoting the guy bashing goonswarm, all I have to say is
indeed
It's all nano -I win button- in Null. Not much different than 'beating defenseless ships' up in safe really. Not an Eve grief. In all MMO's it's called FotM. Right now, Nano is FotM.
Too all the miners being impacted, Amarr Prophecy with 6 miner 2's and 5 light drones. You will need a hauler or should have one anyway. This will set you up with 800+ per minute. Not as efficient as a hulk but it will keep you in space doing what you do and has enough resists and armor to hold out for Concord. There may be a Gallente BC with a similar option.
I am giving up on this thread. Sticking up for goonfleet is freaking me out.. keeew da bumblebee!!!
.. feel better now..
tell me how nanos win 200 on 200 fleet fights please.
in my expreince the team with more slow battleships and carriers and so forth win.
nano ships in null space jsut run around and don't really do much as far as pushing out sov and the like, if they take 20 dreads at your pos and you bring 20 nano vaga, well good luck with that.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2008.02.28 21:32:00 -
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Originally by: Cygnus Scott
Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: Cygnus Scott
Originally by: MotherMoon from all accounts seems like they didn't have the grit to prevail in 0.0
quoting the guy bashing goonswarm, all I have to say is
indeed
Yeah that's a lot of red, but a good deal of that red doesn't belong to GoonSwarm. What did things look like at the onset of this little conflict? I'm relatively new to EVE so I don't know what it looked like 6 months ago. How much has BoB actually lost? How much have the Goons actually won?
I'm not looking at the red, I'm looking at the goonswarm sov, you might not get it but that's a lot of space to own, goonswarm was pressed back to one station in 0.0 space at one point.
here's an older look about 7 months ago? http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/crii/26.03.109.jpg
Looks like there have been a lot of shifting in Alliances in the past 7 months, BoB has definitely lost a good deal of space. However the Goons have not gained all that much since then. In the last seven months they connected Scalding Creek and Detroid, and exchanged some of the area around Omist for a amount of that used to belong to BoB. AAA and Red Alliance have also made large gains in territory too. The Northern Allaince has also made significant gains of BoB territory as well. BFD in 7 months it will look just as different.
but you said that goons culd handle 0.0 space.
they have done nothing but gain more and more space, and not too much space.
you can't say something like goons are failing in 0.0 space, they have what ot takes that shouldn't not require explanation.
if you want I'll get even older maps.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2008.02.28 22:04:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt It is obvious that this guy really knows what is going on, and has all kinds of knowledge of the wars going on in 0.0. After all, COAD is where all the proper info is given out.
lolz, if that was at me I'm proud of my 2 posts in that hellish place lol.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2008.02.29 04:55:00 -
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Originally by: Chelone
Originally by: Gamesguy SWG failed because the devs changed the game completely without consulting the player base
Kinda like Ambulation?
rofl
someone never players SWG
lets make it simple for you, if eve went form what it is today and then replace all of the space combat with ambulation then yes. SWG replaced everything and deleted players characters because they took out classes.
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MotherMoon
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Posted - 2008.02.29 18:37:00 -
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you guys do know there is alliance in the tournament RIGHT NOW that does nothing but hit miners in high sec? their alliance name says it all.
and they have been doing it for a while.
I would say goonswarm currently does maybe half of the high sec mining ganking.
you guys are talking about this like it hasn't been happening for the past year and that NOW it's going to affect player numbers.
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