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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:27:00 -
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Perhaps the Goons have been infiltrated by the secret cabal of ISK farmers and they are suiciding their competitors macro mining operations.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ardan Tanir Edited by: Ardan Tanir on 27/02/2008 22:36:29 no it isnt a fake. all my money is transfered to a friend in the game. CCP is losing a costumer with 3 accounts tomorrow
edit: and i am sure i will not be the only one who left the game. congrats goonie¦s you realy won this game. time to take off the server cluster now.
We don't know if this dude is telling the truth but CCP DO have records and if they see on those records large amounts of customers canceling accounts AFTER they where the victims of a suicide gank do you really think that CCP are going to sit and say "oh well its a harsh dangerous world"
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.27 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon as someone who has played since beta, yes, yes I do.
They nerfed the privateers didn't they? If this "Jihad" starts affecting CCPs pennies they will do something about it. Im not make a judgement about what the goons are doing as being right or wrong just pointing out the facts and in most cases game developers ignore isolated threats of cancelling subs.
But when it seriously begins to affect things they take action every time.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.27 23:02:00 -
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Edited by: AndrewRyan on 27/02/2008 23:03:47
Originally by: MotherMoon oh no not that again, the privateers were using a system in a way that CCP didn't want it to be used.
CCP WANT suicide ganking in the game. They don't want space to be safe.
however declaring war on everyone just makes high sec a place you can shoot at anything and IGNORE conchord.
goons are not doing this, they are losing ships.
And by nerf what do you mean? They didn't STOP you privateers form wardecing everyone, they just made it more expensive. If anything CCP would make it more expensive.
and trust me people would still do it. unlike privateers who couldn't take it because they sucked.
CCP wanted wardecs in the game and they designed it the way the privateers used it they just took a existing game mechanic to the extreme but after the fuss and the cancelled subs and the whining reached a critical mass they pulled out the nerf hammer and put a stop to it.
Just the same as the goons are using an existing mechanic to the extreme and when the cancelled subs and whining and fuss reaches its critical mass its probable they will do something about it as well.
And I'm sure they wont directly stop it they make it more difficult or expensive like the privateer nerf, whether its a buffed concord or something idk.
Originally by: MotherMoon and didn't the goons just get told keep doing it by having a news post?
Le Skunk posted a few weeks back that a news report was the nail in the coffin and hes been right so far lets see if hes right again.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.27 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon privateers were not declaring war on corporations.
they were declaring war on EVERYONE. and the reason was because it protected them.
CCP NEVER wanted someone to make highsafe safe for them to kill whoever they wanted, I have dev quotes, they got ****ed at privateers for using them.
Suicide ganking is the same, it allows a person to be as safe as everyone else in high sec until they choose to engage exactly the same way as the privateers could be selective about their wardecs.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.27 23:54:00 -
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Originally by: IlIlIlI lIlIlIl Ardan Tanir's final straw: http://www.jihadswarm.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=278
Mining veld. In a hulk. In highsec.
I remember being a newbie looking for a way to make money in my shiny new bantam. I flew to a belt. No rocks. I flew to another belt. No rocks.
If we chase out all the hulks, maybe there will be rocks for newbies.
Your not very consistent in your bull cookies are you?
Originally by: IlIlIlI lIlIlIl
I operate in a very narrow band of security status. Man up and go to lowsec, or wimp out and stick to 0.8+.
Not many Newbie bantams leave 0.9-1.0 because their ships are made of tissue paper and cant handle the rats.
Why is it you try to morally justify what you are doing? is it because you kinda feel in yourself that you might very well be overstepping the bounds? Your doing it because you want to do it for fun and its not for anyone except your corp bosses and CCP to tell you otherwise.
So please explain the mother theresa act.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:09:00 -
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Edited by: AndrewRyan on 28/02/2008 00:11:43
Originally by: MotherMoon
THEY DON"T ATTACK ANYTHING BUT HULKS AND MACK! YOU ARE DUMB.
Your the Dumb one, go read the news report and the goons kill board they are claiming to be ganking other ships and haulers as well. Besides wtf are you doing? why aren't you posting your usual attention whoring "olook evrye boyd! mi drunked!!"
I took your arguments apart and you have resorted to personal name calling well done
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden Quote:
Your the Dumb one, go read the news report and the goons kill board they are other ships and haulers as well
Go read their killboard. They've killed 111 exhumers, 2 industrials and one mining barge.
Nice attempt to quote me out of context, the full context of that statement was replying to this rant:-
Originally by: MotherMoon
THEY DON"T ATTACK ANYTHING BUT HULKS AND MACK! YOU ARE DUMB.
so my reply was
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Your the Dumb one, go read the news report and the goons kill board they are other ships and haulers as well
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:41:00 -
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Edited by: AndrewRyan on 28/02/2008 00:42:09
Originally by: Maraa Jayde CCP themselves have glorified it with a news post, which is extremely poor judgement on their part.
Its been quickly buried by a huge bunch of spam about the alliance tourney by the looks of it.
Personally I don't the find the term "Jihad" offensive, I can see that some people might though and others might see the opportunity to use the plausible offensiveness of it as a good excuse to sling poo at the goons and this new activity of theirs.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:51:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
No one will miss you. For every hulk pilot that quits, 5 joins through steam to mine in ospreys.
Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out.
You should read an article on MMORPG called Pursuit of a mythical audience which documented SOE ignoring its existing subscribing player base in the hopes of attracting more new players, we all know how well that served SOE.
Any development company would be insane to follow in SOEs footsteps after as that visible disaster sets a firm precedent.
Originally by: Malcanis
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:56:00 -
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Originally by: Gamesguy
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: Gamesguy
No one will miss you. For every hulk pilot that quits, 5 joins through steam to mine in ospreys.
Dont let the door hit your ass on the way out.
You should read an article on MMORPG called Pursuit of a mythical audience which documented SOE ignoring its existing subscribing player base in the hopes of attracting more new players, we all know how well that served SOE.
Any development company would be insane to follow in SOEs footsteps after as that visible disaster sets a firm precedent.
The audience ccp wanted is already here, in fact, they're the ones doing the ganking.
So.. get a clue before you post.
So the statistics in the economic blog showing the majority of people living in high sec are wrong to?
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 00:59:00 -
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Originally by: Reem Fairchild Eve has non-consensual pvp combat everywhere, including in high-sec, and it's set up that way. High-sec is meant to be safer, not safe. There is nothing wrong if you don't like that. It just means this isn't the right game for you and maybe you should look for one that suits your taste in games better.
Non Consensual pvp is one thing but one of the games largest alliances committing coordinated mass suicide ganks is something else entirely, the only thing that you can compare this to was the Privateers and they got nerfed.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 01:06:00 -
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And as for the goons claiming it to be just Hulks check this one out from the front page of thier KB:-
2008.02.27 20:23:00
Victim: XXXXXX Alliance: NONE Corp: School of Applied Knowledge Destroyed: Bantam System: Allamotte Security: 0.6 Damage Taken: 742
Involved parties:
Name: Dreiden Kisada (laid the final blow) Security: -0.6 Alliance: GoonSwarm Corp: GoonFleet Ship: Kestrel Weapon: Caldari Navy Thorn Rocket Damage Done: 742
Destroyed items:
Civilian Shield Booster I
Dropped items:
50mm Reinforced Steel Plates I Anode Light Ion Particle Cannon I Miner I Small Shield Booster I Uranium Charge S, Qty: 32 Mining Drone I (Drone Bay)
Thats a funny looking Hulk.........
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden 1) They're not killing all hisec miners, they're killing those mining in Barges.
Bantams are not mining barges IIRC.
Originally by: Kahega Amielden
2) Noobs are not in mining barges, and mining barges are competition. Ergo, killing them IS helping noobs
Why would a experianced miner be in a Bantam?
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 01:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kahega Amielden Methinks you're taking my post out of context/missing the point.
There is no misinterpretation or context you said they only target mining barges when in fact they have also targeted newbies in Bantams.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:04:00 -
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Originally by: IlIlIlI lIlIlIl
Originally by: AndrewRyan There is no misinterpretation or context you said they only target mining barges when in fact they have also targeted newbies in Bantams.
Your mistake is that you think of goons as an undifferentiated mass. We're all individuals and mostly do what we like. If one of our newbies wants to suicide gank another newbie, nobody's going to tell him not to. Right now there's a small group of goons that are getting a kick out of popping hulks and macks. That small group is the cause of the current bruhaha. The main body of goonfleet is still in delve (having gone through detorid, fethaybolis, omist, esote...basically just start at scalding pass and go clockwise). So some guy popped a Bantam. Aww, cute newbee, have some isk, go do it again.
The thing is when goons are posting and claiming "we only target Barges" and the truth is your targeting everything it begs the question what else have you said about this campaign is not accurate? Then again it doesn't really make much difference really but when the goons come to the forums and state the exact opposite to the truth it does look strange.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: Kahega Amielden Methinks you're taking my post out of context/missing the point.
There is no misinterpretation or context you said they only target mining barges when in fact they have also targeted a newb in a Bantam.
fixed it for you
Again your either wonderfully misinformed or talking out of your backside about things you cannot even be bothered to do a little research into yourself, There are 2 newbie bantam kills on the first page alone.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon sigh
Does that mean your finally going to stop posting rubbish and untruths?
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 02:59:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: AndrewRyan
Originally by: MotherMoon sigh
Does that mean your finally going to stop posting rubbish and untruths?
I don't think I need to point it out , I think everyone but you gets it anyways.
You dont "get" AndrewRyan.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Originally by: AndrewRyan You dont "get" AndrewRyan.
We "get" you.
Lmao
Originally by: Malcanis
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: MenanceWhite You forgot that The Number 50 is not 5000 therefore it's a just a few people and not the whole goonfleet alliance
So why does the news report detail a discussion with the Goonfleet diplomat? If the Diplomat knows about it and discussed it with the ISD it must be at least partially complicit with GS command.
Next please.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 03:13:00 -
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Originally by: Aprudena Gist The diplomat came out to have fun and so he did that's it dude.
Sorry I'm not trying to hate on the goons or something its all these random people talking crap on your behalf that are not goons that I'm arguing with.
I'm done with the thread.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 03:24:00 -
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Edited by: AndrewRyan on 28/02/2008 03:25:04
Originally by: MotherMoon GOON ATTACK -Random player comes out of nowhere and ganks you before you have time to react
PRIVATEER ATTACK. -EVEmail warning that in 24 hours XXXXXX corp can freely attack you -Red star on player as he enters local informing you a war target is around
Fixed.
At least with a war dec you know you might be at greater risk than normal. And no I was not a Privateer btw.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.28 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
Originally by: AndrewRyan Edited by: AndrewRyan on 28/02/2008 03:25:04
Originally by: MotherMoon GOON ATTACK -Goonswarm member comes into local with a red minus and ganks you before you have time to react
PRIVATEER ATTACK. -EVEmail warning that in 24 hours XXXXXX corp can freely attack you -Red star on player as he enters local informing you a war target is around
Fixed.
At least with a war dec you know you might be at greater risk than normal. And no I was not a Privateer btw.
fixed for you again.
No its not fixed because before the News report a lot of people would not have known about it and would not have changed their standings accordingly, with a wardec you are not reliant on 3rd party sources of information to be aware of the increased risk.
Anyway I'm seriously done with this thread cuz it looks like I'm cussing the goons for what they are doing when I'm not I'm arguing with people who have faff all to do with it who are just posting rubbish.
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.29 07:43:00 -
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This video on you tube is relevant to this topic. Linkage
========================================= A Man chooses, a slave obeys. |
AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.29 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin
Originally by: AndrewRyan This video on you tube is relevant to this topic. Linkage
Never gonna let you mine Enjoy your pod infidel swine
I assume you think the reprocessing and distribution of terrorist propaganda is acceptable? ========================================= A Man chooses, a slave obeys. |
AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.29 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dai Nau I have killed more empire hulks than anyone in goonfleet hate on me please
I do not hate on you for killing hulks, I don't even hate on you for using the term Jihad, I extremely dislike this glorification of terrorist propaganda and I fear its impact on EVE in general and the appearance if reflects on the EVE community and CCP. ========================================= A Man chooses, a slave obeys. |
AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.03.01 00:24:00 -
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Originally by: Aprudena Gist
Yea the newbee's aren't supposed to be killing the batams or osperys i dunno what's going on there.
Mothermoons goon alt detected. ========================================= A Man chooses, a slave obeys. |
AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.03.01 09:06:00 -
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I have found out why the Goonies are killing Hulks, its so they can show the coalition thier KB and say "look we kill tek too ships as well!" ========================================= A Man chooses, a slave obeys. |
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