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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
228
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:57:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:http://www.twitlonger.com/show/dlu3ol <---- Poetics revealing twitter post. Poetic Stanziel wrote:Just generally working to trash their rep. It's not a fast process, but I see a few more negative responses to them with each thread. Why do you guys keep posting this? LOL. It's not damaging. Read the entire thing. I use what Uni's say and do, and then go Fox News on the facts. Still facts. I just hyperbolize to make my message stronger. Things that you call facts are funny!
A) Not everyone who reads this will *know* that your a butt-hurt former Unista, B) Not everyone who reads this will *know* that anything (slightly anti) Uni related you put out, is probably cast in the worst possible light, for your own ends, C) Everyone should know, Keld was CEO when you got the boot, D) Everyone should know what your real goal is - to trash their rep.
To trash their Rep, in spite of the fact that they've been helping (and keeping) people in Eve for 8 years - people who've moved on into *every* part of the game (null sec/Hi-sec/Low-Sec/WH's) and in EVERY aspect of the game, from leadership to grunts, industry to invention and PVP.
We used to have a saying in the Uni when I was there: "Eve University, doing the New Player Experience better than CCP for 4 years..." That isn't *quite* as true as it used to be, but E-U is a hell of a lot closer than anything else to a "users manual" for Eve-Online.
All because you didn't like how the uni ran itself, and got thrown out (quit before being kicked is the same thing) for causing drama.
*THAT* is why I keep posting it, and the fact that I think the Uni deserves a break for being a dam charity in a game of azzbandits for 8 years now.
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:02:00 -
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Q: Kelduum. You mention using wardecs to encourage fighting. We can assume that you completely discount psychological and economic factors as reasons for people to go to war? And if not, then how does your SNA proposal encourage psychological and economic warfare? The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
Darian Reymont
EVE University Ivy League
88
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:03:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Actually, no I don't. I've been told they are just guidelines, and the word guideline is on the WSOP page three times, but most of the section headers start with firm commands such as You must not be ..., You must ..., etc. The word must is on the WSOP page 31 times. I find the message a tad confusing. Either players MUST follow the WSOP or they should just use it as a reasonable set of guidelines for their own safety (their own experience and skill dictating what they follow and what they don't.) Did you actually read the WSOP? It quite clearly says "you should" about the majority of the items it covers. The only things students must do are related to ship restrictions and ROE rules like only flying with University pilots during combat operations. Director of Human Resources EVE University http://www.eveuniversity.org |
Brooson
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
48
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:06:00 -
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Kelduum, whoever convinced you that its a good idea to run is incapable of seeing the potential for leaders.
They say that "those who can't, teach", I think your position in Eve University is the perfect place for you. Continue to teach mediocrity and a false sense of ability, they make for excellent cannon-fodder. |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
231
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:07:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote: I use what Uni's say and do, and then go Fox News on the facts. And we all know the reliability and journalistic integrity of fox news...
"all the bias that's fit to print"
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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:08:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Juicy Chanlin wrote:Since most of the experienced players all have alts, and the uni has no reprecussions for people leaving to avoid the wars, once again there's no point in "psychological" warfare. Sure there are. Only 10-25% of people drop corp during wardecs. So you still have most of the Uni, in station, whining that wardecs are so boring and they suck. (Occasionally a fleet goes out to alleviate some boredom.) You also have the fact that of the people that drop corp, not all of them return. Case in point, when the Uni his 2000 members last year, they right afterwards, went through a period of being under wardec for three (maybe four) weeks straight. Once the dust had settled, they had 1500 members. Five hundred people never returned. That could be a valid goal of a wardec, screw with their recruitment, over work their personnel officers after the decs complete, just make people generally angry and whiney ... lower morale. All sorts of reasons to go to war beyond just pewpewing.
So other then you.. who else would want to scew with the recruitment of a corp that teaches people to play the game? You see, it's not the experienced players that stay in the station and complain. Since they just go play on their alts, (or lead the fleets). it's the new kids, the ones that don't have the courage to go and PvP because they don't think they have the skills or the money to do so. (and while yes.. the uni has ship reimbursement, I know I didn't feel right asking for replacements, and would just play my alt instead of risk loosing my ships)
(it was actually about 5 weeks.. with a few days off in between IIRC) Which is when I left.. :D but I plan on going back, to teach once I know enough to be able to do so.
[Edit] Poetic, you still haven't answered my question from before.. Other then vote for me cause I'm a goon. What's Mittani's running platform? Cause out of the 15 pages. I haven't seen any suggestions for improvement in the game. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:09:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:http://www.twitlonger.com/show/dlu3ol <---- Poetics revealing twitter post. Poetic Stanziel wrote:Just generally working to trash their rep. It's not a fast process, but I see a few more negative responses to them with each thread. Why do you guys keep posting this? LOL. It's not damaging. Read the entire thing. I use what Uni's say and do, and then go Fox News on the facts. Still facts. I just hyperbolize to make my message stronger. Things that you call facts are funny! A) Not everyone who reads this will *know* that your a butt-hurt former Unista, B) Not everyone who reads this will *know* that anything (slightly anti) Uni related you put out, is probably cast in the worst possible light, for your own ends, C) Everyone should know, Keld was CEO when you got the boot, D) Everyone should know what your real goal is - to trash their rep.
Yeah, well ...
Kelduum has gone into detail on just a single issue (so far) during the campaign. His idea is a giant turd, meant to benefit the University, not the EVE Online highsec population as a whole. The idea is built with the University in mind, especially that section about ending the war before it can start by destroying the FLAG.
So, that I do not much like Kelduum or the University, does that make his idea all rainbows and lolliops suddenly? Of course not, it's still a crappy idea no matter my meta-game feelings towards Keld and the Uni. (I'm sure Keld in a very nice fellow in real-life.)
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
231
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:15:00 -
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Brooson wrote:They say that "those who can't, teach" Because all the knowledge and experience in the world is best received at the end of a club...
True fact; The Navy's "Top Gun" Air Combat Maneuvering school is "taught" by the best fighter jocks in the service. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy_Strike_Fighter_Tactics_Instructor_program
So, that "truism" is anything but.
And, to put a >fine< point on it - if *anyone* doesn't like how the Uni teaches PVP - the Uni *does* allow outside people to come in and teach classes. But I suggest you bring plenty of instructors...
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:16:00 -
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Darian Reymont wrote:The only things students must do are related to ship restrictions ... So the ship restrictions are still enforced? That was worst part of the WSOP. When I was in the Uni, I regularly ignored that rule. I flew my Iteron III to pick up my PI, I left fleets a few jumps early to head back to Hek alone. I flew alone to meet up with fleets. I did all that during war and never lost a ship doing it either (if I had, some director/officer would have lost their panties over it.) Why don't you just teach people to fly smart, rather than assuming everyone is an idiot? People learn from mistakes. You don't even give them an opportunity to make mistakes.
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ShipToaster
146
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:16:00 -
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Darian Reymont wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Are you referring to EVE Uni? That large corp is more than 60% full of players six months old and older. Oh cool, it's this again. Wasn't your original claim that the majority of students were over a year old? What happened to the proof you said you had about that and why the revised number? Because it sounds more plausible?
I originally made the claim not Poetic. Neither Kelduum nor Poetic were able to provide proof to either back up or repudiate my claim despite them both claiming it would be scriptable and thus easy for them to do.
As for the proof, I physically counted them and it was just over eight hundred who were over a year old. Both Kelduum and Poetic said they could automate this process to produce a replicable count method but neither did. Again, I invite both of them to do so. Confused about who to vote for in the upcoming CSM election?
This will sort it out! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=68476 |
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:20:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:Poetic, you still haven't answered my question from before.. Other then vote for me cause I'm a goon. What's Mittani's running platform? Cause out of the 15 pages. I haven't seen any suggestions for improvement in the game. Have you not been paying attention for the last year? His agenda is to improve nullsec, and to ensure conflict remains in the game (by supporting or ridiculing the ideas of others.) With The Mittani in the chair, I can rest assured that if any other CSMer were to present an idea similar to Keld's SNA, they would be ripped a new one, and the proposal would die, unpresented. That is what The Mittani brings to the table.
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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:21:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Darian Reymont wrote:The only things students must do are related to ship restrictions ... So the ship restrictions are still enforced? That was worst part of the WSOP. When I was in the Uni, I regularly ignored that rule. I flew my Iteron III to pick up my PI, I left fleets a few jumps early to head back to Hek alone. I flew alone to meet up with fleets. I did all that during war and never lost a ship doing it either (if I had, some director/officer would have lost their panties over it.) Why don't you just teach people to fly smart, rather than assuming everyone is an idiot? People learn from mistakes. You don't even give them an opportunity to make mistakes.
So.. you broke the rules.. even admit to it.. and you're pissed at the uni cause they booted you? interesting..
Last time I checked the uni reimburses people's losses.. So if that's not encouraging people to make mistakes.. then what is? |
Brooson
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:21:00 -
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Asuri Kinnes wrote:Brooson wrote:They say that "those who can't, teach" Because all the knowledge and experience in the world is best received at the end of a club... True fact; The Navy's "Top Gun" Air Combat Maneuvering school is "taught" by the best fighter jocks in the service. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy_Strike_Fighter_Tactics_Instructor_programSo, that "truism" is anything but. And, to put a >fine< point on it - if *anyone* doesn't like how the Uni teaches PVP - the Uni *does* allow outside people to come in and teach classes. But I suggest you bring plenty of instructors...
Eve University is comparable to Top Gun, both institutions where you grow intimately attached to your wing-man. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:23:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:Last time I checked the uni reimburses people's losses.. So if that's not encouraging people to make mistakes.. then what is? They reimburse specific fleet losses, during war. Usually the mistake there is the FCs, not the individual pilots.
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
232
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:24:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:So, that I do not much like Kelduum or the University, does that make his idea all rainbows and lolliops suddenly? Of course not, it's still a crappy idea no matter my meta-game feelings towards Keld and the Uni. (I'm sure Keld in a very nice fellow in real-life.) It isn't "opinion" - it's your stated goal, and of course not, I am not a fan of the "capture the flag" idea, but thanks for (trying to) put words in my mouth!
I keep harping on that because it casts a bit of light on your continued intransigence/bias against the Uni, and anything keld might put forward!
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Kelduum Revaan
EVE University Ivy League
1487
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:24:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Q: Kelduum. You mention using wardecs to encourage fighting. We can assume that you completely discount psychological and economic factors as reasons for people to go to war? And if not, then how does your SNA proposal encourage psychological and economic warfare?
Nice attempt at a double-bind question there, Poetic. Do try harder though. Kelduum Revaan CEO, EVE University
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Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:25:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Juicy Chanlin wrote:Poetic, you still haven't answered my question from before.. Other then vote for me cause I'm a goon. What's Mittani's running platform? Cause out of the 15 pages. I haven't seen any suggestions for improvement in the game. Have you not been paying attention for the last year? His agenda is to improve nullsec, and to ensure conflict remains in the game (by supporting or ridiculing the ideas of others.) With The Mittani in the chair, I can rest assured that if any other CSMer were to present an idea similar to Keld's SNA, they would be ripped a new one, and the proposal would die, unpresented. That is what The Mittani brings to the table.
No.. Unlike you.. I don't waste my time with politics in the game.. It's easy to say I want to improve this this and this. but without ideas, it's just as useless as bad ideas. Ridiculing someone else's idea is not helping anything.. There is a HUGE difference between CONSTRUCTIVE Criticism, (which by the way you fail to do) and ridiculing.
I can pick apart any idea no matter how great. It's easy to find faults. Much harder to generate ideas and solutions. |
Juicy Chanlin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
52
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:26:00 -
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Brooson wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Brooson wrote:They say that "those who can't, teach" Because all the knowledge and experience in the world is best received at the end of a club... True fact; The Navy's "Top Gun" Air Combat Maneuvering school is "taught" by the best fighter jocks in the service. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy_Strike_Fighter_Tactics_Instructor_programSo, that "truism" is anything but. And, to put a >fine< point on it - if *anyone* doesn't like how the Uni teaches PVP - the Uni *does* allow outside people to come in and teach classes. But I suggest you bring plenty of instructors... Eve University is comparable to Top Gun, both institutions where you grow intimately attached to your wing-man.
And I assume there's no brotherhood in goon? it's each pilot out for themselves only? |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:28:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Q: Kelduum. You mention using wardecs to encourage fighting among interested parties. How does your SNA proposal encourage psychological and economic warfare? Nice attempt at a double-bind question there, Poetic. Do try harder though. Too hard a question? I'm sorry. I'll remove the middle bit.
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:32:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:No.. Unlike you.. I don't waste my time with politics in the game.. It's easy to say I want to improve this this and this. but without ideas, it's just as useless as bad ideas. Ridiculing someone else's idea is not helping anything.. There is a HUGE difference between CONSTRUCTIVE Criticism, (which by the way you fail to do) and ridiculing.
I can pick apart any idea no matter how great. It's easy to find faults. Much harder to generate ideas and solutions. You're not making the case of Kelduum here. Kelduum has presented only a single fleshed out idea, and it was a bad idea. Which, as you say, is just as useless as no ideas. Deep in that brain of yours, you're already realizing Keld is a bad candidate, you're just not letting it out.
I'm not running for the CSM. I don't have to generate ideas. Kelduum is campaigning for a CSM slot. Generating good ideas is part of the CSM job. He's already shown a failing at being able to do that.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2034
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:37:00 -
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CSM delegates do not act as amateur game designers. Several past and present delegates have emphasized that point. yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
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Prince Kobol
191
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:39:00 -
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I hope Kelduum gets elected as I want to see if Poetic Stanziel explodes |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
736
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:43:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:I hope Kelduum gets elected as I want to see if Poetic Stanziel explodes I would be surprised if he didn't get one of the last five positions. Now if he doesn't make the Fourteen, then I'm, of course, going to take most of the credit (along with Keld's ridiculous ideas, which helped as well.) The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
Darian Reymont
EVE University Ivy League
92
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:45:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:Generating good ideas is part of the CSM job. Is it? I thought the role of the CSM was to represent society interests to CCP, which is something Kelduum would excel at.
Isn't it the job of CCP to actually design the game?
EDIT: Beaten by Andski it seems. Director of Human Resources EVE University http://www.eveuniversity.org |
Brooson
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:49:00 -
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Juicy Chanlin wrote:Brooson wrote:Asuri Kinnes wrote:Brooson wrote:They say that "those who can't, teach" Because all the knowledge and experience in the world is best received at the end of a club... True fact; The Navy's "Top Gun" Air Combat Maneuvering school is "taught" by the best fighter jocks in the service. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Navy_Strike_Fighter_Tactics_Instructor_programSo, that "truism" is anything but. And, to put a >fine< point on it - if *anyone* doesn't like how the Uni teaches PVP - the Uni *does* allow outside people to come in and teach classes. But I suggest you bring plenty of instructors... Eve University is comparable to Top Gun, both institutions where you grow intimately attached to your wing-man. And I assume there's no brotherhood in goon? it's each pilot out for themselves only?
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
738
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:50:00 -
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Darian Reymont wrote:Poetic Stanziel wrote:Generating good ideas is part of the CSM job. Is it? I thought the role of the CSM was to represent society interests to CCP, which is something Kelduum would excel at. Isn't it the job of CCP to actually design the game? CSM presents concerns of players to CCP. Some CSM members will present ideas on how to fix those issues. CCP will take those and either use them or trash them as they see fit.
CCP comes up with game design proposal, presents it to CSM. CSM offers their feedback on the proposal.
CSM isn't designing the game, but they are acting as a sounding board.
Case in point, read the most recent CSM Minutes (the December Summit), I believe the wardec section is on page 22. CCP presented their plan for war dec mechanic changes. The CSM offered their opinions. During the meeting, those proposed mechanics changed.
So, whereas the CSM is not actually designing the game (thank goodness), they do act as a sounding board for many of the mechanics in development. The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
238
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:59:00 -
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Brooson wrote:Eve University is comparable to Top Gun, both institutions where you grow intimately attached to your wing-man. A) I GET IT! An unsubtle anti-gay joke! B) Of course it's not comparable C) Nice try...
I was just disproving the supposed "truism" you trotted out...
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Asuri Kinnes
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
238
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Posted - 2012.02.12 21:02:00 -
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Poetic Stanziel wrote:You're not making the case of Kelduum here. Kelduum has presented only a single fleshed out idea, and it was a bad idea. Which, as you say, is just as useless as no ideas. Deep in that brain of yours, you're already realizing Keld is a bad candidate, you're just not letting it out.
I'm not running for the CSM. I don't have to generate ideas. Kelduum is campaigning for a CSM slot. Generating good ideas is part of the CSM job. He's already shown a failing at being able to do that.
Your becoming pedantic...
CSM is a sounding board - Representing players to CCP and CCP to players. Get over it.....
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Prince Kobol
197
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Posted - 2012.02.12 21:04:00 -
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@Poetic Stanziel
I simply can believe how.. what is the word, addicted, fascinated, obsessed, fixated you are with somebody who plays a game..
I mean damn man/woman, let it go.
Seriously, you are like becoming the Eve version of Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction. I keep expecting Kelduum to post that he has found a boiled bunny floating outside the Eve Uni HQ |
Reppyk
The Black Shell
62
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Posted - 2012.02.12 22:09:00 -
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ShipToaster wrote:I originally made the claim not Poetic. Neither Kelduum nor Poetic were able to provide proof to either back up or repudiate my claim despite them both claiming it would be scriptable and thus easy for them to do.
As for the proof, I physically counted them and it was just over eight hundred who were over a year old. Both Kelduum and Poetic said they could automate this process to produce a replicable count method but neither did. Again, I invite both of them to do so. They showed me some graphics a few months ago (I asked for the same thing). You should dig a bit on EVEO but you will find it.
And nice Kelduum, you dodged again my questions.
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