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St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.06 12:54:00 -
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Want to spend less time scanning and more time looting faction wrecks? Want to separate the wheat from the chaff faster? Want to be able to farm your region dry and keep respawning the good sites?
I present to you my Deep Space Probe Exploration Guide: http://www.swiftandbitter.com/eve/dsp
PS: First non dev post \o/
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Aethlyn
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Posted - 2011.09.06 13:02:00 -
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An Excel Document? You should really try to put this either into an HTML page or post it as a PDF file. Not sure how trustworthy people consider classic (pre-2007) office file formats from strangers. Looking for more thoughts? Read my blog or follow me on Twitter. |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.06 15:46:00 -
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Hey Mio, how goes with the w-space coverage? |
Exodus 4D
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.06 15:51:00 -
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Aethlyn wrote:An Excel Document? You should really try to put this either into an HTML page or post it as a PDF file. Not sure how trustworthy people consider classic (pre-2007) office file formats from strangers.
HTML would be nice! PDF could be difficult, the scan strength must be adjusted induvidually.
Thanks nice Guide :)
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Hypnagogia Ichinumi
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.09.06 17:42:00 -
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Aethlyn wrote:An Excel Document? You should really try to put this either into an HTML page or post it as a PDF file. Not sure how trustworthy people consider classic (pre-2007) office file formats from strangers.
I can confirm the validity of the file. The reason it is in excel format is because there are pages that you can plug stats into (probe strength) and they will output signature strengths based on that. The text portion of the guide could be word/pdf/whatever but unless you wanna do the math yourself those pages are handy. |
Eva Blitz
Expendable Explorers
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Posted - 2011.09.06 21:02:00 -
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Aethlyn wrote:An Excel Document? You should really try to put this either into an HTML page or post it as a PDF file. Not sure how trustworthy people consider classic (pre-2007) office file formats from strangers.
Ought to be trusted by most after all the thanks this wonderful excel document will generate and has generated.
Great work Mio. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2011.09.06 22:34:00 -
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Aethlyn wrote:An Excel Document? You should really try to put this either into an HTML page or post it as a PDF file. Not sure how trustworthy people consider classic (pre-2007) office file formats from strangers.
It can't be done as PDF, and HTML might require skills or resources he doesn't have. As they say in the south, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If your Office is patched properly there's little risk.
As I said in the previous forums, awesome work and thanks for doing this. |
Lorkin Desal
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2011.09.06 23:21:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Aethlyn wrote:An Excel Document? You should really try to put this either into an HTML page or post it as a PDF file. Not sure how trustworthy people consider classic (pre-2007) office file formats from strangers. It can't be done as PDF, and HTML might require skills or resources he doesn't have. As they say in the south, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If your Office is patched properly there's little risk. As I said in the previous forums, awesome work and thanks for doing this.
Open Excel document, open the menu, click save as, click .PDF or .XPS
Magic!
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.07 03:04:00 -
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Excellent work!
Added it to our EVElopedia page.
EDIT: Absolutely no pun intended; I should stop going to the forums before my morning coffee... |
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2011.09.07 03:40:00 -
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Lorkin Desal wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Aethlyn wrote:An Excel Document? You should really try to put this either into an HTML page or post it as a PDF file. Not sure how trustworthy people consider classic (pre-2007) office file formats from strangers. It can't be done as PDF, and HTML might require skills or resources he doesn't have. As they say in the south, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. If your Office is patched properly there's little risk. As I said in the previous forums, awesome work and thanks for doing this. Open Excel document, open the menu, click save as, click .PDF or .XPS Magic! And the PDF preserves all the calculations when you enter stuff in the proper cells? If so, that's a new-ish feature which never worked for me in the past. |
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Wormerling
New Eden Mining Corporation Executive Solution
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Posted - 2011.09.07 07:57:00 -
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This is exceptional!
Big big thanks for posting this, St Mio! I only wish this included worm space sites as well. |
St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.07 09:11:00 -
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I have managed to whip together an HTML version that uses Javascript and cookies to calculate the signature strengths for your personal probe strength and to show/hide one pirate faction at a time. It is usable without either JS or Cookies but it will then default to a probe strength of 10.
I've also PDFed the Excel sheet so you can print it and DIY and fill in the signature strengths yourself
I haven't touched PHP in many years so unfortunately I cannot put together an IGB version that checks which solar system you're in and filters the sheet automatically.
It'll still be a while before I manage to add WH-space, but in the mean time I suggest you read Aandaan's post on the old forums.
The HTML version also features links to the EVElopedia articles, and lastly I'll be adding the new 5/10s (and any other new DED plexes) as I hear about them.
Thank you all and have a lovely day :) |
Jommis
Oberon Incorporated Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.09.07 09:54:00 -
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Nice work
I like you! |
Comy 1
Ore Mongers Indecisive Certainty
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Posted - 2011.09.08 01:24:00 -
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Wormerling wrote:This is exceptional!
Big big thanks for posting this, St Mio! I only wish this included worm space sites as well.
http://wormnav.com/
Use it ingame for it to be the most effective.
You are welcome. |
Miles Parabellum
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.08 07:36:00 -
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Nice post
I have one question, though: Is it possible that one's ship or skills make lower signal strength sites invisible on scan? Or will any site always show, even if ultimately unprobable with my ship/skills? |
St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.08 08:34:00 -
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If a site is within range of your probe, it will always show as a scan result, even if it only has 0.00001% strength :) I stand corrected :P |
5nipe
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.08 08:50:00 -
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Miles Parabellum wrote:Nice post
I have one question, though: Is it possible that one's ship or skills make lower signal strength sites invisible on scan? Or will any site always show, even if ultimately unprobable with my ship/skills?
yes, it is possible if signature strength is very weak
you drop core probes and see more signatures in system than with DSP.
try first scan with DSP 128 or even 64 AU to discover all signatures in system and second scan with 256 to filter desired signatures. |
Wormerling
New Eden Mining Corporation Executive Solution
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Posted - 2011.09.08 09:11:00 -
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Miles Parabellum wrote:Nice post
I have one question, though: Is it possible that one's ship or skills make lower signal strength sites invisible on scan? Or will any site always show, even if ultimately unprobable with my ship/skills?
All sites will always show up, even with 0,01% strength.
P.S. Ouch! I should update page more often... |
5nipe
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.08 09:34:00 -
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Wormerling wrote: All sites will always show up, even with 0,01% strength.
the thing is that if your probes sensor strength not high enough (ship without bonuses for example) some "weak" signatures have strength less than 0,01% with 256 AU DPS. In this case they will not show up in signatures list.
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Miles Parabellum
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.08 10:11:00 -
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So, no matter the ship, skills or chosen probes - If the signature strength is less than 0.01, I'll never see it because of game mechanics? |
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5nipe
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.09.08 10:23:00 -
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Miles Parabellum wrote:So, no matter the ship, skills or chosen probes - If the signature strength is less than 0.01, I'll never see it because of game mechanics?
not really,
it is because scan results signal strength column has only 2 decimal digits
I was really frustrated with it in first place
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St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.14 17:22:00 -
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Bump!
I would like to take this moment to thank Mnemosyne Gloob and Emperor Salazar for their help and patience in my completion of my spreadsheet |
yer mammy
Angellic Industries
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Posted - 2011.09.15 10:13:00 -
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Have my babies. |
Cedille Mureau
Institute of Archaeology
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Posted - 2011.09.15 11:06:00 -
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Now this is what I call contributing to the game.
Many thanks.
Wish I was as talented. |
Emperor Salazar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.09.16 00:02:00 -
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St Mio wrote:I would like to thank the following people for their help in putting all this together: (in no particular order) Emperor Salazar/xxSketchxx for his DSP Strength Predictions sheet on which mine is based
GÖÑ
Yours is much prettier and more elaborate than mine, but I'm glad someone picked up where I left off (I took about a 6 month hiatus after publishing that). |
Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
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Posted - 2011.09.16 03:52:00 -
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I've been using your HTML version for a few days now and it has definitely changed how I approach exploration. Thanks, St Mio. This is very much appreciated. Rees Noturana // Professional Treasure Hunter |
Wormerling
New Eden Mining Corporation Executive Solution
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Posted - 2011.09.16 10:00:00 -
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Yesterday I did some scanning in a C2 wormhole and want to confirm some wromspace info.
My probe sensor strength was equal to 13,2 and, as supposed, I've been using a deep core scanning probe with distance set to 256AU.
The following sites had strength of 0,26%:
- Ordinary Perimeter Deposit (Gravimetric) x1
- Sizeable Perimeter Reservoir (Ladar) x4
- Token Perimeter Reservoir (Ladar) x2
- Ordinary Perimeter Reservoir (Ladar) x4
- Minor Perimeter Reservoir (Ladar) x1
- Wormhole K162 (Unknown) x1
- Wormhole B274 (Unknown) x1
The following site had strength of 0,17%:
- Wormhole D382 (Unkown) x1
The following site had strength of 0,13%:
- Unexceptional Frotier Deposit (Gravimetric) x1
The following site had strength of 0,10%:
- Wormhole Y683 (Unkown) x1
The following site had strength of 0,07%:
- Unsecured Perimeter Comms Relay (Radar) x1 - this should fall into 0.06% category I guess
The following sites had strength of 0,06%:
- Unsecured Perimeter Comms Relay (Radar) x2
- Unsecured Perimeter Transponder Farm (Radar) x1
- Forgotten Perimeter Habitation Coils (Radar) x2
- Isolated Core Deposit (Radar) x1
P.S. Thanks for nice html version! |
St Mio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.09.18 10:10:00 -
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Thanks Wormerling!
Updates: -+ Low-sec page updated with all the remaining Radar and Mag sites (thanks to the guys in Exploration chat again for your submissions). -+ Pretty icons addeed (courtesy of CCP Toolkit)
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Kilrayn
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.09.21 22:35:00 -
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I've got 1 bump for immediate delivery, is this the corner of Washington and 32nd? Anyone?
Screw it, i'll just leave it here... In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has angered numerous people for many different reasons and is widely considered as a 'bad move'. |
Mark Douoglas Hamil
Cossette Moana
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Posted - 2011.09.23 10:32:00 -
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St Mio wrote:Want to spend less time scanning and more time looting faction wrecks? Want to separate the wheat from the chaff faster? Want to be able to farm your region dry and keep respawning the good sites? I present to you my Deep Space Probe Exploration Guide: http://www.swiftandbitter.com/eve/dspI would like to thank the following people for their help in putting all this together: (in no particular order) Emperor Salazar/xxSketchxx for his DSP Strength Predictions sheet on which mine is based Daesis Wrack for providing me with the strength formula Aandaan, Daneel Trevize, Kirian Kador and ReguIator for the wormhole data they collected All the regulars from "Exploration" channel in game (I'm not going to name you because I'll end up missing someone), all the players who've shared their knowledge on the forums (with a special mention going out to DeMichael Crimson & Miss Moonwych), and last but not least, to all the pirates who didn't shoot me while I was out collecting data. o7
well ichecked it with a deep space probe, and i was wondering how can i know what my scan strength is, i use dees space scan with a 5 scan strenght and i have noticed that the radar, magno's i found were in spectrum 0.08 and in 0.04. But i had set the strenght on the website to 4. Now i ve got frigate lvl 5 and with an imcus i get strenght 0.17 the website says its 0.16 for unknowns so how do use the website? |
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