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Iraf Thaiberd
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:41:00 -
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I'm not one to scream about the sky falling, but this is getting pretty close.
If you want people to utilize the T2 Jump Freighters (which will be obscenely expensive), then you need to make them good enough to use. Nerfing the existing logistics chains upon which all 0.0 empires survive is not only NOT the answer, it's moving in the completely wrong direction.
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Dangerously Cheesey
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Maxim Powers Edited by: Maxim Powers on 01/11/2007 21:40:11
Originally by: Nicocat What do goons care about this? Shoo, kiddos.
Jump Portal Arrays? The fact that they're killing carriers/motherships for logistics?
No, hes right. Whats this jump bridge thingy? Can I shoot it in my rifter?
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Tevlent
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Tevlent on 01/11/2007 21:44:16 I thought jump bridges were initially put in for logistics, but now you cannot even jump bridge any freighter except for the fenrir. Why do you hate us CCP? Freighters will now be 100% worthless in 0.0 space. Even worse off then we were before the Rev3 patch because they now have a maximum warp range of 40 AU, which means they will take forever to fly around.
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infinityshok
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:44:00 -
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This is the last straw. My logistics capability has been completely eliminated in one patch. I was straddling the fence on actually nerfing my credit card but no longer. Three of my accounts have been closed, effective when the subscription period expires. As I complete various obligations on my nine remaining accounts they will be closed as well.
'Eve - the worlds most nerfed universe'
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Karina Bellac
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:45:00 -
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A withdrawl now makes perfect sense. |
Dangerously Cheesey
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tevlent Edited by: Tevlent on 01/11/2007 21:44:16 I thought jump bridges were initially put in for logistics, but now you cannot even jump bridge any freighter except for the fenrir. Why do you hate us CCP? Freighters will now be 100% worthless in 0.0 space. Even worse off then we were before the Rev3 patch because they now have a maximum warp range of 40 AU, which means they will take forever to fly around.
The funny part is that CCP can't even get it consistently right. I wonder if they will even notice that one of the 4 freighters can still jump bridge.
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Verite Rendition
Caldari F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:49:00 -
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WTH? Did I wake up in Bizzaro world or something? In this universe, it seems like CCP is actively trying to kill the game. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic EVE Automated Influence Map
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Kayl Breinhar
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:50:00 -
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This is a horrible, horrible idea.
CCP, this is your game, but our territories are our work. By making it more difficult to conduct 0.0 logistics you not only harm us, but our enemies as well. Who wants to play a game where the thankless job of logistics is made so difficult that both sides can't effectively fight each other anymore?
...or is that your goal? You're holding Fanfest at this very moment, a gathering to show how *close* you are with the playerbase...but right now you're only showing how far you wish to stay away.
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Tevlent
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Tevlent on 01/11/2007 21:51:46 CCP needs to stop making EVE a pain to play. No more stupid time and isk sinks. EVE has been so much better since the advent of jump bridges and the ability to actually use freighters in 0.0 space. This nerf will completely undo everything and make all the logistics guys shoot themselves.
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Di modial
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:54:00 -
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I am very glad I have yet to take the time to get into cap ships.
They are clearly worthless.
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infinityshok
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:55:00 -
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After reading thru the forums about the various nerfs as they apply to various ships and modules the only conclusion is these devs have totally and completely lost their effing minds.
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Sammiel
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Nicocat What do goons care about this? Shoo, kiddos.
I imagine this is fallout from what I heard of the Bobbits running a certain trade route constantly with their titan and a freighter, making billions in an hour or so. If so, well done on the fix.
Yes, because making 0.0 logistics far far more difficult was the appropriate way to fix an imbalanced trade route. DEATHLEY > why dont u remain silent like prominent alliances like our band of brothers do |
Rockbox
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.01 21:59:00 -
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lol goons are going ape **** over this signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected]) |
Cyza
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:01:00 -
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The only possible reason that I can think they would nerf every single logistics aspect in one patch... is perhaps they want to make things more realistic... where it takes 10-12 support to field 1 fighter. Cause it looks like all of these changes are gearing that way. Make it take 4x as many people to take care of logistics and making money... so that a single person can fight.
I like cheese... ~Cyza
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Tevlent
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Rockbox lol goons are going ape **** over this
I don't understand how any 0.0 alliance woundn't go apes*hit over this.
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WrathOfOprah
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:01:00 -
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Edited by: WrathOfOprah on 01/11/2007 22:02:28
Originally by: Rockbox lol goons are going ape **** over this
True. But this affects everybody. And believe it or not, most of us don't want to have to go find another MMO to play. Not if we can help it.
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Frodo Teabaggins
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:02:00 -
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CCP must like to shoot themself in the foot. ______________________________ How big is ur pvpness? |
Frodo Teabaggins
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Frodo Teabaggins on 01/11/2007 22:03:15 delete me. ______________________________ How big is ur pvpness? |
Jomin Herdsy
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:03:00 -
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You guys obviously are not sharing the vision of EVE CCP always have had. The game was never meant to have alliances in 0.0. |
Loco Apophis
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:03:00 -
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Now I have seen it all, goons caring about a game, and specially the carebear part of it.
Halseth Durn > We are an alliance that wants to be left alone
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HydroSan
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:04:00 -
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Edited by: HydroSan on 01/11/2007 22:03:57
Originally by: Rockbox lol goons are going ape **** over this
Looking at the sov map, it appears Triumvirate owns a fair chunk of land. I guess you don't grasp just how hard it will be to live in those shiny new stations you guys got yourselves a few months ago.
Do you like the thought of escorting slow-as-hell, double-jumping freighters from lowsec to each station system you own? No? Then you'd be against this.
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Nicocat
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: WrathOfOprah Edited by: WrathOfOprah on 01/11/2007 22:02:28
Originally by: Rockbox lol goons are going ape **** over this
True. But this affects everybody. And believe it or not, most of us don't want to have to go find another MMO to play. Not if we can help it.
Still not done ****ting this one up yet? =P ----------------
Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY
Down with alts! One character per account per IP! |
Rockbox
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: HydroSan Edited by: HydroSan on 01/11/2007 22:03:57
Originally by: Rockbox lol goons are going ape **** over this
Looking at the sov map, it appears Triumvirate owns a fair chunk of land. I guess you don't grasp just how hard it will be to live in those shiny new stations you guys got yourselves a few months ago.
Do you like the thought of escorting slow-as-hell, double-jumping freighters from lowsec to each station system you own? No? Then you'd be against this.
Im gonna enjoy tangible supply lines (ie. ima kill ur freighters)
(I cant beleive youd leave game over this ahahahahh) signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected]) |
Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:07:00 -
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WTF!!!
That is better some halloween joke.
First CCP tries to nerf mineral compression - fails. Then CCP tries to nerf carriers - fails. Now CCP tries to nerf freighters - ???
Why, why, why!!
CCP, why don't you see that this is absolutely unnecessary and unwanted?
Oh yeah, right. They nerf stuff so that people are forced to use their new ships (t2 freighter) - because otherwise they would be too crappy so that no one uses them or what??
Give the new ships you introduce a good bonus, and everyone will consider to train for them.
Also: how the heck are we supposed to invent t2 freighters for a reasonable price (below 15 bil)? Same with the t2 BS, they won't be sold for less than 1 billion. That all is sutpid, stupid and makes no sense.
And why destroy the small people, again?!! Not everyone has that many numbers as the goons, who can just jump 100 iterons V instead of a few freighters.
The small corps/alliances can jump a freighter - or leave. Don't favour always the big!!
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Fenderson
Finite Horizon Synchr0nicity
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Maxim Powers Edited by: Maxim Powers on 01/11/2007 21:40:11
Originally by: Fenderson gee, i wonder if a certain alliance is staging another mass-posting?
stfu goons
16 post in an hour, this forum can't take the load!
lol i love how 4/5 of the replies are goons and you try to deny it.
obviously if they are going to introduce jump freighters this is a totally logical nerf. whether you think jump freighters are too expensive is subjective. i would say that they should be really expensive since they can easily station tank and never be voulnerable.
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Waterfowl Democracy
The Ministry of Indigenous Affairs GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Fenderson lol i love how 4/5 of the replies are goons and you try to deny it.
obviously if they are going to introduce jump freighters this is a totally logical nerf. whether you think jump freighters are too expensive is subjective. i would say that they should be really expensive since they can easily station tank and never be voulnerable.
No one is denying that many Goonswarm members have posted in this thread so far, and will continue to post later in this thread. Maybe if you actually held space you'd know how ******** this idea is.
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WrathOfOprah
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rockbox
Im gonna enjoy tangible supply lines (ie. ima kill ur freighters)
Your an idiot. And you need to go have a chat with a logistics guy in yours or any other 0.0 and get an idea of what they actually do.
Also, if you want to attack "supply lines" go siege the system they have the JB in.
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Sokratesz
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:12:00 -
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riiiight
/me trains alt for jump freighter
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Rockbox
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:12:00 -
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Edited by: Rockbox on 01/11/2007 22:12:26
Originally by: Swamp Ziro
Originally by: Rockbox I can see it now, wolf packs surrounding and cutting alliances off logistically
do you even know the name of the people fueling your poses?
Yeah his name is Greg why? signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link to the image URL) - Jacques([email protected]) |
Ikma Freizen
Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.11.01 22:12:00 -
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Originally by: HydroSan Edited by: HydroSan on 01/11/2007 22:03:57
Originally by: Rockbox lol goons are going ape **** over this
Looking at the sov map, it appears Triumvirate owns a fair chunk of land. I guess you don't grasp just how hard it will be to live in those shiny new stations you guys got yourselves a few months ago.
Do you like the thought of escorting slow-as-hell, double-jumping freighters from lowsec to each station system you own? No? Then you'd be against this.
Tri POSes are fueled by honour and KD ratios.
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