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Almarez
Setenta Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:36:00 -
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If the revamped northern coalition engaged BoB from the Fountain front? I'm speaking of my own mind but I think Triumverate would set the north to blue for a short time to join in on this. Especially since there are so many ex-Xelas and just plain BoB haters in that alliance.
Could BoB et all fight the war on two fronts?
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Vasili Z
Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:38:00 -
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M.Pire would **** on their stations. ----
Everything I say represents my corporation and their views.
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Ramlir
0.0 Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:38:00 -
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There'd probably be a thread about it, maybe two.
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Rolled
Syn-Packet Security
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Almarez
Could BoB et all fight the war on two fronts?
Don't they already have a two front war?
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Hogan Hulk
Caldari Detinus Republic
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:39:00 -
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I think blobs are always good for this game. The bigger the better.....
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Astarte Nosferatu
We Know Derek Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:40:00 -
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Why people always want to invade Fountain is beyond me. Delve would be a more logical choice economically, psychologially, politically and strategically.
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Kieranda
Weyland-Yutani Future Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Why people always want to invade Fountain is beyond me. Delve would be a more logical choice economically, psychologially, politically and strategically.
look at the OP's corp and what Alliance they were in some months ago they want their outpost in U-SOH2 back!
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Almarez
Setenta Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Why people always want to invade Fountain is beyond me. Delve would be a more logical choice economically, psychologially, politically and strategically.
Fair enough, I haven't thought much about it.
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Almarez
Setenta Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Ramlir There'd probably be a thread about it, maybe two.
I tend to not read these forums much anymore so sorry if I missed something.
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Almarez
Setenta Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Kieranda
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Why people always want to invade Fountain is beyond me. Delve would be a more logical choice economically, psychologially, politically and strategically.
look at the OP's corp and what Alliance they were in some months ago they want their outpost in U-SOH2 back!
YES!!! Or the billions we spent building it...either will be fine.
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Why people always want to invade Fountain is beyond me. Delve would be a more logical choice economically, psychologially, politically and strategically.
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Joeyboy
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Why people always want to invade Fountain is beyond me. Delve would be a more logical choice economically, psychologially, politically and strategically.
Yea, but the Goons and pets don't think logically. Otherwise, why hit the BOB pets when you can go after BOB directly? If goons and pets went after BOB directly and used diplomacy to reduce/eliminate the BOB pet presence, BOB would already be dead. Heck, Goons could even take over the rent the BOB pets pay BOB. I bet if they asked for 1/2 the rent BOB asked for, they'd already control all th e BOB pet space except for maybe MC and FIX.
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marakor
Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Almarez If the revamped northern coalition engaged BoB from the Fountain front? I'm speaking of my own mind but I think Triumverate would set the north to blue for a short time to join in on this. Especially since there are so many ex-Xelas and just plain BoB haters in that alliance.
Could BoB et all fight the war on two fronts?
Like you say they have a lot of ex-xelas in there alliance so it not like they would get anybody who could fight or be willing to do anything but macro mine.
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Almarez
Setenta Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Almarez If the revamped northern coalition engaged BoB from the Fountain front? I'm speaking of my own mind but I think Triumverate would set the north to blue for a short time to join in on this. Especially since there are so many ex-Xelas and just plain BoB haters in that alliance.
Could BoB et all fight the war on two fronts?
Like you say they have a lot of ex-xelas in there alliance so it not like they would get anybody who could fight or be willing to do anything but macro mine.
Feel free to go into their space and see if this is true. Triumverate reminds me a lot of BoB in BoBs early days, good PVPers with the desire to PVP.
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente The Illuminati.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 21:03:00 -
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Originally by: Almarez
Originally by: marakor
Originally by: Almarez If the revamped northern coalition engaged BoB from the Fountain front? I'm speaking of my own mind but I think Triumverate would set the north to blue for a short time to join in on this. Especially since there are so many ex-Xelas and just plain BoB haters in that alliance.
Could BoB et all fight the war on two fronts?
Like you say they have a lot of ex-xelas in there alliance so it not like they would get anybody who could fight or be willing to do anything but macro mine.
Feel free to go into their space and see if this is true. Triumverate reminds me a lot of BoB in BoBs early days, good PVPers with the desire to PVP.
We did put the razor and guys to blue for a bit to attack BKG but it was only for a while and imho the whole campaign was poorly planned and orchestrated so we left re set standings and kicked FS out of there systems.
See we make our own fun.
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Shamis Orzoz
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.28 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Joeyboy
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu Why people always want to invade Fountain is beyond me. Delve would be a more logical choice economically, psychologially, politically and strategically.
Yea, but the Goons and pets don't think logically. Otherwise, why hit the BOB pets when you can go after BOB directly? If goons and pets went after BOB directly and used diplomacy to reduce/eliminate the BOB pet presence, BOB would already be dead. Heck, Goons could even take over the rent the BOB pets pay BOB. I bet if they asked for 1/2 the rent BOB asked for, they'd already control all th e BOB pet space except for maybe MC and FIX.
Joeyboy, your memory is short. Remember a certain large fight in bob space where the coalition lost a staggering number of dreads???
Astarte, the reason to invade fountain has always been to spread the fronts out far enough so that bob cannot operate on both at once. If all of the coalition attacks at one location you have lag and potential system caps to deal with. If you attack two systems in adjacent regions then bob can just jump back and forth at will and slaughter any smaller forces.
However, if you spread teh fronts several regions apart, then bob has to choose 1 to defend. And for each pet they lose, they lose a signifigant source of income, making it that much harder to keep fueling the hundreds (perhaps thousands) of pos's they have to maintain in their space, as well as forcing them to actually go out and make money, which they have not had to do for a long time.
When they actually have to go out and make isk on their own, they suddenly become vulnerable to roaming gank squads which until now have had little effect in bob space, because bob doesn't do anything in their own space under normal circumstances. They just collect their fees, get in their ships and go fighting.
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Keidre
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Almarez Especially since there are so many ex-Xelas?
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Mr Broker
Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.09.28 21:30:00 -
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what makes you think m.pire won't join the north to attack bob? the sooner bob becomes insignificant, the faster many alliances are freed from their chains to this epicly boring war.
m.pire, razor and tri would benefit much in signing a no pos war agreement, and have triumvirate as the gurantor of the agreement
good fights all the time when systems aren't at stake anymore, so they can leave the super blob at home, and even organize planned fleet ops with predetermined numbers. Learn from each other and become better players that could set the standard for respect and honor.
red to each other, but able to team up to defend against foreign invaders that would bring in the super blob and pos spams seems like something most alliances dream of but fail when they instead become permanent blue to each other.
after all, razor should thank m.pire for helping clear d2, and triumvirate seems to desire a permanent balance of strong alliances in the region, and cowpire wants good fleet fights against decent opponents.
i don't think the new razor really wants to have an entirely blue, boring and carebear north again.
they could officially give the finger to both bob and goons by pulling out of the great lag war.
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Super Twinkey69
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 21:34:00 -
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lol
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Necronomicon
Caldari KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 22:22:00 -
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I dont think you will find much support from the north considering what happened to the old Northern Coalition.
Carlsberg dont make Eve Pilots, but if they did, i wouldnt be one of them.
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Phrixus Zephyr
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 22:34:00 -
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Never again.
Originally by: consider telos ..then we had a fight and he was so dead and then I like became champion of eve and then ccp gave me a medal and a t-shirt and asked me to go out with him on a date to mcD' |
Halkin
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 22:45:00 -
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alts would turn in their grave, they would post non stop with pure ****e on how things would turn out, oh wait
Originally by: Paper Rock's fine, nerf Scissors
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Bravo 20
Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.09.28 22:48:00 -
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Quote: what makes you think m.pire won't join the north to attack bob? the sooner bob becomes insignificant, the faster many alliances are freed from their chains to this epicly boring war.
Ever thought that there are some players, unlike yourself obviously, who would rather leave the game than be aligned with RA and their Goon/TCF/IAC/-A- etc etc pets?
Well, have you????
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Kaaii
Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.28 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Broker
m.pire, razor and tri would benefit much in signing a no pos war agreement, and have triumvirate as the gurantor of the agreement
again.
they could officially give the finger to both bob and goons by pulling out of the great lag war.
Yea, a pos nap, right... M-pire, being a good chunk of old LV Ra-LV pos nap worked so well for them the last time....
According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
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Joeyboy
Repo Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.28 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Joeyboy, your memory is short. Remember a certain large fight in bob space where the coalition lost a staggering number of dreads???
That was one attack which had a very specific purpose in mind, and both sides knew where and when the fight was going to happen. I'm talking about a sustained campaign directed right at the heart of BOB space, not their pets.
By attacking BOB pets first, Goons and their pets are playing right into BOB's hand. Granted, goons appear to be winning anyway. However, if Goons went after BOB assets directly, they'd be fighting BOB and maybe 1/3 of the BOB pets instead of all of them. Once BOB is done, Goons could then deal with the BOB pets at their leisure.
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari Bladerunners Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2007.09.28 23:40:00 -
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Originally by: Joeyboy
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Joeyboy, your memory is short. Remember a certain large fight in bob space where the coalition lost a staggering number of dreads???
That was one attack which had a very specific purpose in mind, and both sides knew where and when the fight was going to happen. I'm talking about a sustained campaign directed right at the heart of BOB space, not their pets.
By attacking BOB pets first, Goons and their pets are playing right into BOB's hand. Granted, goons appear to be winning anyway. However, if Goons went after BOB assets directly, they'd be fighting BOB and maybe 1/3 of the BOB pets instead of all of them. Once BOB is done, Goons could then deal with the BOB pets at their leisure.
If they went straight for teh core most likely all bob and pets would be there and it would be a complete biatchfight , takin out pets one by one and let bob bringing it ... is imo a better wayof doin it , less pets to care about , less peopel that will be in teh gang andless peopel at the end to fight inteh core systems , you can only defend for so long
also pet space would become stronger cause only core would get attacked meaning pet space keeps reinforcing on resources and pos's etc , now they force bob etc to spend resources a lot wich makes them have less when they reach fountain or whatever and also less people to deal with
but dont get foooled to easily as bob has a feckload of resources , i can tell ;) _______________________
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Nez Perces
Amarr Black Spot.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 00:15:00 -
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Originally by: Joeyboy
By attacking BOB pets first, Goons and their pets are playing right into BOB's hand. Granted, goons appear to be winning anyway. However, if Goons went after BOB assets directly, they'd be fighting BOB and maybe 1/3 of the BOB pets instead of all of them. Once BOB is done, Goons could then deal with the BOB pets at their leisure.
"Look after your pennies and the pounds will look after themselves"
... this war is about long term morale. Both sides are having to find it within themselves to go through the endless repetetion of pos wafare. Every victory counts... and the more victories are achieved on the road to the final victory, the more morale is elevated.
Every pet defeated is a morale booster.
Therefore the way the southern coalition, or whatever you wanna call them, are going about the war atm is the correct way. RagoonTCF and Co. need to peel off BoB's outer defenses one pet at a time, until BoB are alone and their morale is lowered. It is also important to destroy BoB's economic model of renting out territory in return for protection.
The inner sanctum are BoB, MC and FIX.
Knock FIX out of the war and then you have to find a way to make MC think twice about throwing their lot in with BoB... and the funny thing is that even when BoB has run out of pets/allies.. they could still bleed their attackers to death.
Either way if you don't kill the pets you don't stand a chance of killing the boss at the end. Attacking BoB directly would be a fatal mistake, one that was already comitted 5 months ago.
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Necronomicon I dont think you will find much support from the north considering what happened to the old Northern Coalition.
Amen to that. The last time the north did an invasion, it was a giant cluster **** of infighting, inept fc's and a complete lack of a coordinated fight force. Individualy we were a great goup of alliances but as a whole, we sucked hardcore.
Not gonna do that ever again unless BIG changes were made.
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Brunswick2
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Super Twinkey69 lol
I agree.
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Thargat
Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 02:07:00 -
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who are the Triumverate? copycats.... aaah... *head explodes*
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