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Spaceman Jack
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:24:00 -
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Can we please get the EVE cleitn back into the nice package it was before!!! Having the folders all spread out really blows
I miss having all my EVE ready to travel with me on a flash drive. Any Computer.. any time
PLEASE PLEASE... Screw Vista.
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Thrust SSC
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:30:00 -
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Yes, let's drop all Vista support so that Spaceman Jack can play EVE while travelling! No.
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Chancer
Minmatar Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:31:00 -
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Vista failed? I must have missed the Microsoft press release.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:31:00 -
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And somehow, this thread fails even more than Vista.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Ni'an
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:36:00 -
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running eve on vista for months, never had any problem
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PenguinJim
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Ni'an running eve on vista for months, never had any problem
Same, and I run 3 or 4 clients at a time
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Thanos Draicon
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:40:00 -
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Originally by: Chancer Vista failed? I must have missed the Microsoft press release.
It didn't fail so much as it was stillborn, really.
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Valrandir
Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Spaceman Jack I miss having all my EVE ready to travel with me on a flash drive. Any Computer.. any time
You still can, with command line options, which can be in a nice jack friendly shortcut.
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Phil Miller
Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:56:00 -
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Vista is doing fantastic actually.
According to retailers and distributors, the first week sales have been above their expectations. The most popular version that sold was the Home Edition, but the biggest surprise was probably that the Vista Ultimate (the full feature and most expensive version of the operating system) sold in high numbers. Of course, Microsoft was happy with it all.
Also, there haven't been too many "bugs" discovered with Vista, which is great. Of course, there are always the compatibility issues, but those are things that will work themselves out in due time.
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I'mA Geezer
Friends Of Derek
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:58:00 -
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Just use the command line switches and don't ever select "launch eve online" from the patch screen!
Vista is just fine on machines that are specced up to run it.
Its death has been announced prematurely just like EVERY OTHER Microsoft OS ever, as people always like comfortable slippers they are already wearing.
... except in the case of Windows ME where people who hated it were justified.
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Menkaure
Amarr Vanitas Corp.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:59:00 -
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Failed about as much as XP failed within its first sixmonths-year of release. People and tech grow into OS's.
Biggest argument I can see from vista bashers is that it hogs memory. Which is true, if you're running an XP pc. Also used to be the biggest complaint from 2k/98 users when they upgraded to XP.... they just didnt have the memory to run it.
Its a fairly good OS all told, having used it for 5 or 6 months now on one of my pcs.
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MasterEnt
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: MasterEnt on 28/09/2007 14:04:22
Originally by: Chancer Vista failed? I must have missed the Microsoft press release.
LOL, when is the last time MS admitted to anything it did badly?
Your right.. you must have missed it. When was the lat time MS offered a categorical downgrade option on such a scale. When was the las time manufacturers has to offer an OLDER OS after millions of people complained about it.
Vista Downgrade Abandoned Vista Business Hates Vista 01 Business Hates Vista 02 Downgrade
NOTE NOTE NOTE: Never did I say EVE was not working on Vista (can play it fine), what I said was that Vista (in and of itself) is a failure, and having the folders spread out for its rediculously complex design sucks. It was nice having EVE in one folder.
Sure.. if you are only playing EVE and games on it it works fine, some of us use our computers for a little more.
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Nicho Void
Gallente Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:02:00 -
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Originally by: Menkaure Failed about as much as XP failed within its first sixmonths-year of release. People and tech grow into OS's.
Biggest argument I can see from vista bashers is that it hogs memory. Which is true, if you're running an XP pc. Also used to be the biggest complaint from 2k/98 users when they upgraded to XP.... they just didnt have the memory to run it.
Its a fairly good OS all told, having used it for 5 or 6 months now on one of my pcs.
This. All you techy fanboys need to relax. The same thing happened with XP, then SP1 and SP2 were released. I find it horribly ironic that the same OS people like you were blasting 6 years ago is now the OS you refuse to let go. ---------------
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MasterEnt
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:05:00 -
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Originally by: Nicho Void
Originally by: Menkaure Failed about as much as XP failed within its first sixmonths-year of release. People and tech grow into OS's.
Biggest argument I can see from vista bashers is that it hogs memory. Which is true, if you're running an XP pc. Also used to be the biggest complaint from 2k/98 users when they upgraded to XP.... they just didnt have the memory to run it.
Its a fairly good OS all told, having used it for 5 or 6 months now on one of my pcs.
This. All you techy fanboys need to relax. The same thing happened with XP, then SP1 and SP2 were released. I find it horribly ironic that the same OS people like you were blasting 6 years ago is now the OS you refuse to let go.
Funny.. do you have any evidence I was blasting it?
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Darius Shakor
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:08:00 -
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Originally by: Phil Miller Vista is doing fantastic actually.
According to retailers and distributors, the first week sales have been above their expectations. The most popular version that sold was the Home Edition, but the biggest surprise was probably that the Vista Ultimate (the full feature and most expensive version of the operating system) sold in high numbers. Of course, Microsoft was happy with it all.
Also, there haven't been too many "bugs" discovered with Vista, which is great. Of course, there are always the compatibility issues, but those are things that will work themselves out in due time.
Interesting. And how long have you worked for Microsoft?
Honestly though, I have not bothered with vista at this time. Once it begins to take deeper root though and proves itself over time I'll dip into it. Or when the DX10 graphics overhaul for eve goes live. Which ever comes first. ------ Shakor Clan Information Portal |
Captain Sonata
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:11:00 -
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@MasterEnt
Isn't it time you stopped living in the past?
Also, since you're saying that "if you are only playing EVE and games on it it works fine, some of us use our computers for a little more.", could you list a few of those activities that you are having trouble so diligently performing on Vista?
I'd like to personally help you investigate the cause, as well as offer you a solution to any of them.
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Garrack
Caldari Black Velvet Allegience
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:16:00 -
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I dunno what Phil and such are talking about... Vista really isn't doing that well.
There IS some truth to the whole "people/businesses don't adopt new OSes quickly" thing too.
However, I've been in IT for eons, and what I see in this case that is new, is that there is relatively no additional significant value in Vista that justifies the absolutely staggering performance impact.
What's more is much of what Vista touts as good is massively annoying and winds up being disabled by anyone who is even remotely tech-savvy.
Hell, I work in a company that usually gobbles up new OSes like candy, and this time we're like "Ummmm... no."
There is a lot to indicate that Vista is going to be different than some of the previous major releases in the adoption pattern. I, for one, won't use it and I'm the biggest "new OS/toy" **** around. :)
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Arachidamia
The Ninja Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:19:00 -
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Vista has not failed. But at the same time... it's had a very lukewarm reception. Certainly far worse than XP got. It seems to have many drawbacks and little new to offer. Except DX10 support, which is essentially being kept vista only to force users to upgrade. But that's microsoft for you.
But hey... hopefully the upcoming linux client for eve works well. Then I'll be happy. I just hope other games start gaining linux support. The non windows market is on the rise after all, it makes sense for more games companies to try and get a foothold in that potential market.
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zilllii
Squirrel Power
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:19:00 -
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vista is around 10% slower in games due to crappy DRM interfering with the system on a driver level by encrypting and asking the system for permission to display and play sounds.
vista is not a operating system it is a RIIA and MPAA software virus. microsoft should have told them to go shove it and should also have said "we care about our customers so we are not going to build a winxp with just a couple of shiny bits on it with loads of crap that you want in it" to them.
everything works in XP and does so faster and better, if you love vista so much for its looks there are good vista transformation packs out there because it is impossible to like vista for its performance.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: MasterEnt LOL, when is the last time MS admitted to anything it did badly?
Windows ME
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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J Ripper
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:31:00 -
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As all the fanboys have changed the topic to xp vs vista i`ll have my 2p`s worth
I used vista on my pc for about a month, I had too many backward compatibilities so had to default back to XP
Vista has some nice "eye candy" but still isn`t as effiecient as XP in it`s current stage.
Unless there is a DX10 port for xp (which I know nothing about) I will be forced to go back to vista and have a split OS system for my older software.
Back to the OP`s question, I agree that Eve should be all in one folder.
Why was it split up anyhow ??
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Cypherous
Minmatar Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:36:00 -
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I've had no massive issues with Vista other than the somewhat annoying lack of being able to record "What u hear" although i mearly assumed it was a driver related issue and not a DRM one although there may be ways around that using XP drivers over Vista ones. ---------
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MasterEnt
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:47:00 -
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Edited by: MasterEnt on 28/09/2007 14:51:45
Originally by: Captain Sonata @MasterEnt
Isn't it time you stopped living in the past?
Also, since you're saying that "if you are only playing EVE and games on it it works fine, some of us use our computers for a little more.", could you list a few of those activities that you are having trouble so diligently performing on Vista?
I'd like to personally help you investigate the cause, as well as offer you a solution to any of them.
Living in the past has never been a habit of mine. I appreciate the assumption. But by the same token, I don't go and rush things just because they are shiny and new.
I am in media production. I use a lot of Adobe CS3 design/Video, Maya, Cinema 4D, Vue, Shake, Combustion, and have been a part of development teams for Autocad, Alias, Adobe and as such have work with MS directly on partnership development projects. I am not a "Screw MS" guy.
I can tell you the biggest problem has to do with Rendering OpenGL for graphic apps. Once again MS wanted to monopolize that branch by trying to drop support for Open GL and support DX only. Well, there was a huge outcry about that so they reimplemented it last minutes, but its half assed, and reaks of passive aggressiveness.
For me.. that is a problem.
In the end, this post was not about how much Vista sucks or not. And right off the bat everyone assumes that i was having a problem running EVE becuse Vista is a bad and clunky OS. That assumption alone negates half of the posts here.
Does Vists boot.. yes, does it run some thing, yes.. but my 1980 POS Car starts and runs also, but that dont mean its a good or efficient car.
PS Capt Sonata: I DO appreciate your offer of trying to help me, the reply was not meant to flame you.
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Scel Eratus
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:01:00 -
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Vista may, at some point in the future, be a great OS. Right now, however, it is not worth using, particularly for novice computer users. I have heard stories of people taking their missbehaving Vista systems in to various outlets for tech support only to be turned away simply because the techs refused to work with Vista. |
Q'ui
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:06:00 -
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/sweeps Windows Millenium under the carpet.
yes I agree
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Corwain
Gallente Kamite
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:13:00 -
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Hehe, saw a funny comic the other day. Some of the comic characters are watching the news of the Vista downgrade to XP option on new PCs and one of them goes, "Wait, that's a downgrade?" -- A Solo Arbitrator vid, Distortion by Corwain |
Andre Ricard
Freelancer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:16:00 -
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Originally by: Arachidamia
But hey... hopefully the upcoming linux client for eve works well. Then I'll be happy. I just hope other games start gaining linux support. The non windows market is on the rise after all, it makes sense for more games companies to try and get a foothold in that potential market.
Wait... wait wait... WHAT?!?! There is going to be a Linux client? If that ever happens I will travel to Seattle and burn every Microsoft related disk I have right on their door step.
I dual booted linux/windos for a few months but was forced to go back to windows because linux can't play any of my games, even with wine/Transgameing(or whatever it was called)
But seeing how EVE is pretty much the only game I play anymore, Linux FTW! Shareware > microsoft monopolization
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Taram Caldar
Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:17:00 -
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Edited by: Taram Caldar on 28/09/2007 15:17:39
Originally by: Phil Miller Vista is doing fantastic actually. Also, there haven't been too many "bugs" discovered with Vista.
I'm sorry, I think VISTA is just fine as a business OS, as far as it goes, but for gaming platforms it's terrible.
And where on earth do you figure it hasn't had any bugs discovered? In it's first 4 months there were over 86 hotfixes created. It's curently somewhere over 100 and they haven't even bundled SP1 yet.
I agree, it's sold well. But most people that I know who bought it initially have returned to XP at this point. Especially hard-core gamers. Yes, you can beef up your hardware to be able to run vista as well as you ran XP. But that same hardware running XP can run circles around Vista. So why upgrade the OS?
For business? It's phenomenal (as long as they don't have any legacy apps that don't play well with it) for average home users? It's nice. For power users and hard core gamers? It's abyssmal.
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:31:00 -
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All in all I'm not at all impressed with Vista. When xp support runs out, I'm just gonna move full time to linux... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
Asperger
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:35:00 -
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Vista is broken by design. I have an operating system to manage my hardware and run my programs effeciently. I do not buy hardware to run my operating system and so that the applications can survive on the fringes.
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