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Mitsuko Anari
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:03:00 -
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Since I'm to lazy to look up and link a lolcat I will improvise...
my cage
*cute cat image*
it have bin rattled
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Validus Fides
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:06:00 -
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*snip* no need for this -Lord Harold
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Validus Fides
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:07:00 -
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fyi and if u want u can call it dark elf
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Faekurias
Federation Fleet Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:15:00 -
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Edited by: Faekurias on 11/07/2007 21:18:58
Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH I realize this game is all some of us have in the world. Some take this game way, way to seriously. Stop the elf in you and relax.
Mate, from the way I see it. YOU are the one taking it too seriously, pirating is one of the funnier/funniest aspects of the game.
We do it because it's FUN, now if you'd do a huge carebear rally that'd be fun. But I doubt it , it's about as likely as pirates rallying togheter (=null void?)
Anyways, hope you'll find an aspect you'll enjoy.
That's what games are about, fun :) And this is pretty damned much fun.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:18:00 -
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I have blown up alot of pirates. Let me explain. I warp in to a low sec space astoriod belt. There they sit. 3 big bad pirates just waiting to get owned by me. I see them first and let loose the big dogs. Here they come. They are unleashing all they have. Not good enough. Not with me. After lock # 2 and # 3 I start firing and they take my shields. My shields for # 2 is okay with me. I trade half armour for # 3 and once again, I'm top dog. I don't know who the Guristas Corp are but they aren't very good. Oh, and # 1 died in the first barrage. lol. Just kidding. :)
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Derovius Vaden
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:23:00 -
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Just remove killmails, make gate sentries one-shot-killers and make CONCORD pod the criminals. This should be more then enough to kill off these lowlife pirates.
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Faekurias
Federation Fleet Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH I have blown up alot of pirates. Let me explain. I warp in to a low sec space astoriod belt. There they sit. 3 big bad pirates just waiting to get owned by me. I see them first and let loose the big dogs. Here they come. They are unleashing all they have. Not good enough. Not with me. After lock # 2 and # 3 I start firing and they take my shields. My shields for # 2 is okay with me. I trade half armour for # 3 and once again, I'm top dog. I don't know who the Guristas Corp are but they aren't very good. Oh, and # 1 died in the first barrage. lol. Just kidding. :)
that's what I'm talking about, now you're showing more of a sense of humour Change those "pirates" into real PVP and you'll see how much fun you have :D Real pvp ftw!
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH I realize this game is all some of us have in the world. Some take this game way, way to seriously. Stop the elf in you and relax.
Does anyone else think this is the pot calling the kettle a little on the tarnished side?
DE
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JoeT
Amarr Short Attention Span Nex Eternus
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:29:00 -
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good luck with that. I am going to go lay on some floor now and luff my ass off at this troll
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Matroshka
Crimson Squall Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Just remove killmails, make gate sentries one-shot-killers and make CONCORD pod the criminals. This should be more then enough to kill off these lowlife pirates.
This is what I am talking about. At least Smammah, whether his plan is good or not, is trying to accomplish something without trying to get CCP to make the game easier for them. -------------
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NightmareX
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:46:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 11/07/2007 21:48:05
Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Just remove killmails, make gate sentries one-shot-killers and make CONCORD pod the criminals. This should be more then enough to kill off these lowlife pirates.
And while we are at removing things, then just remove all of the carebears for us in EVE CCP, since we can have much much more smoother fleet battles then, and that makes all of the PVPers happy.
And btw, piracy will NEVER stop / die. Since it's a part of the game, like the mission / npc / mining stuffs is.
Infinitus Odium - We Are The Bringers Of Hatred |
Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.07.11 21:49:00 -
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I for one actually think SMAMMAH might be on to something, if the bears club together and make a concerted effort to come into lowsec to deal with us it just means more targets, more targets = more fun = more profit potential.
Just remember to load the tech 2 gear, maybe some faction, hell, put some officer gear on your ships if you're feeling kinky ;)
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PathetiQ
Gallente The Rat Pack
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:02:00 -
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OMGWTFLOL at MASTER SMAMMAH!
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:11:00 -
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I fully plan on equipping me ship to the fullest. All noobs listen, when you fight pirates, mostly they are pretty hard to defeat. Putting the goos, expensive stuf on your ships will improve your odds, but will also suck worse if you die. Big IF. So, Risk vs reward. But don't bring a knife to a gun fight. Better safe than sorry. For the brave lone wolf types, scan, scan, scan. And mark a safe spot. Get to it when traveling in low sec. Then scan. Once safe, proceed. However, if pirates are heading your way or unidentified ships coming your way, warp out. Don't trust anyone. Watch local for people. The overview isn't very reliable.
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deathforge
The Accursed
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: MASTER SMAMMAH For all those victims of piracy I have this advice. Following this plan will work only if a united front is formed. 1. Stop paying ransoms. The pirate exists partly by getting players to give them money to they aren't pk'ed. So, eliminate that form of money and pirates suffer. 2. Stop paying for protection. Players who pay bullies for protections will never achieve their full worth unless they stand up to pirates. I'm not talking about hiring players, but about players who intimidate to get money. 3. Fight all pirates everywhere to take back the space you have live in. It's your home, don't let someone run you out. 4. United front. If all non pirates allied together to hunt pirates down and destroy them than less pirates would be around because they would fear us. Group together and help each other out.
Yes, piracy adds an element needed for this game, but this game seems controlled by the pirates. Let's take it back. Use local to warn others of pirates, get together and go to the gatecampers, ore thieves, etc. and show them who rules who. But some might say that the pirates are powerful. Yes they are. But who makes the most money? We do. Why do they pirate us? So they can make money. Stop making it easy for the pirates. Stop rolling over. Stand up and fight. Keep your hard earned money for yourself. But divided we fall, united we stand. Some of us make a stand, but until all do, we will always fight a pitched battle. Let's stand up for ourselves and do what is needed.
my, what in interesting little world you live in.
And by the way, I rule you.
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Jerk + 122k skillpoints + Determination = Rifter of DoomÖ |
MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:21:00 -
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Never been proven. Never will be.
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SloBones
Sicarri Covenant
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:23:00 -
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So is anybody else hitting up their nearest locater agent and paying smammah a visit? Obviously this guy has no clue and I think we should give him one. Since he's the big bad pirate killer let's see what he's got...
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Karrade Krise
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:23:00 -
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think that will stop piracy? wow............
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Faekurias
Federation Fleet Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:25:00 -
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SMAMMAH, stop the walls of text. You obviously have skills in the English language. Use them.
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Terranid Meester
Knights Hospitalier
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:25:00 -
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Carebears as I define them are simply too lazy, stupid or greedy to actually achieve a goal like tackling piracy and its causes.
Industrialists as I define them are mosre capable of defending their assets however that doesn't mean they are any more capable. At least industrialists have the capacity to fight. Isk is seen by many to be a goal but god forbid, it be used for any decent cause.
EVE doesn't need carebears (nice people they may be). If we have industrialists we can do without carebears. However to defeat piracy need a change in peoples attitudes and as it currently stands too few have the capacity to actually do it.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:34:00 -
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My typing is really an issue? I mean, can you reply to something I have said? Well, how about, " I am SO Sorry my typing isn't up to par with your skills. Please forgive my hasty hands and overlook my typing erros and grammar malfuntions". Better? And I agree with you T.M. but I hope some aren't like what you described. Yet, I believe most are. So, now you know my goal. To wake up the indulstrialists and others who choose not to stand up for what they have. As I said before, piracy has it's place. Like all things in the game. But players should stand up for themselves and not be bullied.
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dragonssbane
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:36:00 -
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The pirates are what makes the Low sec systems livable. Normally the guys in 0.0 don't ask for ransoms and they gate camp for free. And traveling in packs is second nature to us. We would bring 0.0 type of space right up to your door step. Your choice...piracy or carnage.
(hmm..could not find a "Jason" smiley)
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sophisticatedlimabean
Gallente FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:53:00 -
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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 11/07/2007 23:02:00 Do you realy think you will stop piracy?. Please get this through you obviously thick skull.
Piracy as you call it is just low sec pvp and your not gonna stop pvp.
First comes 0.0.
Before you go on listen up, only a total and complete moron would jump around in a non friendly area ie; not their alliances held space, of 0.0 flying a hauler because he would be asking to be popped. Most would have a scout or gaurd even in their home systems tbh.
Then comes low sec
Low sec is a area where you get a little protection from pvpers in the form of gate guns and station guns, there is also the fact that the persons or person fighting take status hits so they cannot fly in empire space. And only a moron jumps into or around a area not held by their alliance or corp in low sec without a scout or gaurd.
Then we get empire.
You and your ideas belong in empire thats where all the things you want are. Ie; protection from pvpers and the freedom to move around without getting shot at.
Where will your moronic ideas stop?. So after you have turned low sec into empire what would be next 0.0?.
Do everybody a favor, stick to emipre and STFU if you cannot handle low sec or 0.0.
Oh yes and there are areas that ppl get together in large groups to fight others that want their stuff, space and or isk. Its called low-sec and 0.0 and the things they call the groups they make to do this are called alliances or corps you plonker.
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Cpt Fina
Insult to Injury
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Posted - 2007.07.11 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Derovius Vaden
Just remove Derovius Vaden, make gate sentries one-shot-kill Derovius Vaden and make CONCORD pod Derovius Vaden. This should be more then enough to get rid of Derovius Vaden
Fixed
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Dr Slice
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:09:00 -
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I'm willing to wager large amounts of ISK that CCP is reading this thread and laughing their asses off
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sbreach
Gallente PezCo - Ice Services
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:10:00 -
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Here is a fool proof solution to not getting pirated.
Do not undock, You are safe nowhere, but a station, and someday that might change too.
When undocked you lend yourself to lag, greifers and nasty pirates, if you do not undock, they cannot do anything, sit in your station and admire your ship, which is 100% protected from pirates, gankers and high sec war decs.
If we all just stop undocking, this pirating menace will solve itself, as pirates without any food turn actively on themselves, and in turn new victims are made and should also refrain from undocking.
In the end, while were all safely docked only one person will remain undocked, and his choice is either rat of self destruct to get the bang.
EVE is not run by pirates, while their is a healthy number of them, if they were not doing what they were doing, the markets would goto hell, and when over pirating occurs, people become mercs and get money to kill. If all else fails form the privateers, war dec all of eve empire corps and 0.0 alliances reliant on empire logistics and get the game devs to nerfbat you.
So
1. Stop paying ransoms. Ransoms are a method to save YOURSELF money, The pirate is happy with the money or the loot, and its the victim who has to gather the modules by them travel different systems for the ship, repay insurance. if this figure of time wasting and cost is lower than paying a ransom, just keep F1 F2 F3 F4 F5 F6 F7 F8. and in no time you can be buying new implants and a new ship. Ransoms are a service from pirates to us. Im not a pirate and id be damned glad if i get offered a ransom, securing my pod safety, my modules and my ship and cargo which would be a bore to go out and collect again and at a loss. if it costs more to pay the ransom well i can just hope i warp my pod away.
2. Paying for protection Ok this seems more reasonable, but depending on the situation, if your in a system and your making alot of isk, and someone says were going to destroy you and not let you make any isk of fun at all, unless you pay us this to not shoot you, if the benefit is higher than the negative then your going to stay, your not going to say well ok wed make enough money anyway to cover this but were gonna fight and die or move shop and wait for someone else to come by.
3. Pirates are the one who pick the battles. if they think there going to lose they'll warp off. If people fight every encounter they see a pirate, pirating would become MORE lucrative. The people pirates shoot often cannot fight back, and if they did the pirates will flee when they feel they will lose or do not stand a chance. Why is this? Because maybe pirates dont want to die either, and they might think its stupid to let yourself die in a fight you started just because they started it, gain nothing but lose nothing.
Anti United Front. Just if you managed to rally all non pirates and non pvp chars into a single entity to combat pirates, the pirates would do strike groups against you, as they are better at pvp, they will just have more targets, and if you can suffocate piracy with a blanket, then they would unite so you got a United front of non pirates, and a United Front of pirates, Place your bets now.
Piracy isnt going to change, Warp to 0 nerfed them abit in areas, and also buffed them in others. its a 2 bladed sword.
And while i like to keep my ship and modules intact and in piece and would rather not be pirated ill do what i can in my power to live but im not going to suddenly hate pirates because they pirate, alot of them are awesome people. who just want your stuff, if you want to or not
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: SloBones So is anybody else hitting up their nearest locater agent and paying smammah a visit? Obviously this guy has no clue and I think we should give him one. Since he's the big bad pirate killer let's see what he's got...
He's in the Federal Naval Academy station in Duripant permadocked. Probably afraid of being shot by the noobs in the Velators outside the station. :D
<I'm joking, I have no idea where he is, nor do I care>
BUYING Poteque Pharmaceuticals 'Prospector' PPH-2, PAYING WELL, CONVO/MAIL IN-GAME |
MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:23:00 -
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I was wondering when the sheep would talk. For all you noobs, being a pirate doesn't make you a better pvper. Being a pirate only means you take what isn't yours and you try to steal from others. And pirates gang up anf gank people. So, who really are the best pvpes? Not most pirates. Unless in a group. lol. Even questionable there.
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MASTER SMAMMAH
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:26:00 -
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Not even close.
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sbreach
Gallente PezCo - Ice Services
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Posted - 2007.07.11 23:47:00 -
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You seem to miss one important thing, pirates, pirate, pirates
So while there are many useless non skilled pirates, there are also skilled pirates, not to mention pvp corps who will kill for fun and profit and not actively pirate. Then there is merc corps who are paid to pirate or kill people for what ever reasons.
Then there are the alts of pirates which are pirated when trying to supply the pirate to pirate. There are even pirates who pirate their own alt who was trying to get supplies for the pirate who pirated himself.
The definition of pirate is touchy, do you count all people who shoot others for their personal gain a pirate? carebears who see a good opportunity to make some quick isk by killing someone else isnt uncommon. There are RP pirates, opportunist pirates, Carebearing pirates, sadistical pirates, casual pirates and dedicated pirates, fact is piracy can cover almost everything under the sun.
Next thing you should know is pirates do not care, you could blow 1000's of pirates up and they probably wont care. The pirates attacked might care but pirates arent going to rush in to save them, this is why large alliances of pirates dont work, too many blues not enough food.
Theres enough to piracy to everything else, then theres NBSI, what the difference between a pirate corp setting up and taking over a whole system, compared to a alliance/corp setting up in a 0.0 system with NBSI, they are protecting their assets, While the main reason is to get kills and loot for pirates, the alliance is looking for isk and grow in strength to take space of other people and take control of their assets, For good or for evil. what you count as piracy could be alot of things.
Would i be considered a pirate for ganging up and killing a red pilot in some system minding his own business ratting? you can put in defence it was to damage the enemy and weaken them that 0.000001% more. But he didnt engage me, and we went to blow him up. It didnt matter he was minding his own business, nor he was not shooting us at this time, he was a enemy plain and simple, and like wise they do the same when given the chance. Pirates just see anyone they want as enemies.
Fact of the matter is, piracy has many faces, many roles and many different views, and no view is the correct one, if you dont agree with other peoples views you aways have the myriad of ways to PVP, being commerce or with F keys.
You can go around claiming to of killed 100's of pirates all you want but no one cares. will a pirate care if you killed competition? i mean a dead pirate means that pirate wont pirate someone allowing for a increased chance another pirate can pirate them, im sure they would thank you for pirating pirates pirating in their pirating area.
All in all ive said pirate too many times in this thread, but it just makes me smile to see people who think they can stop piracy.
Like i said, if you want to kill piracy, just don't undock, and im sure with this alt of yours you take that advice clearly.
PS, my views are not the views of corp/alliance ect.
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