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Aakron
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.12 17:23:00 -
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NO. run along ---
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Talkie Toaster
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.12 17:24:00 -
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even as someone who lives in empire, doesnt pew pew and loates wars, one single pvp server is the best way to play the game.
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Dimitri Chandler
Gallente Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.06.12 17:27:00 -
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God no, are you mental?
Fluffled -Suvetar "There is nothing as disconcerting as being bear-hugged by a giant Icelandic man in a kilt." |
John Grimm
The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.06.12 17:28:00 -
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Edited by: John Grimm on 12/06/2007 17:29:32
Originally by: Marquis Dean Burn in hell!!
OP: Read my sig...
Thats the way i want it to stay.
Originally by: Rawne Karrde PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login. If you don't like it you're in the wrong game.
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Ash Vincetti
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.12 17:33:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean Burn in hell!!
Oh, and posting in an epic thread -----
Originally by: Barbarellas Daughter "Do you remember the Jiggly Wiggly guy?" "Yes, his thread was hilarious!" "Yeah, and i even posted in it!" |
Ralara
Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.06.12 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kethlin There are many carebears in Eve and many that have left. Would you consider a pve server? This would not only reduce the load on your present one and create a new beginning without the ongoing wrangling etc on the present one. The only additions required that I can think of would be to add more npcs to the game. Present players could start with existing skills if desired but no items. This would put all on a more equall basis and for those on the pve server the Bob problem would no longer be an issue. Far less gm supervision, and hopefully, less accusations would be a big plus.
go play Freelancer or Rollercoaster Tycoon.
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Xtreem
Gallente Quechua Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.12 18:05:00 -
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the thing i dont understand when people post this.
carebears and pirates and allaince warfare all all needed in eve!
carebears produce minerals and build ships people buy this to shoot other things
if a pve server exsisted the eccomics would collapse, soon as people had there t2 toys they would never lose them, so the need for them would stop, meanign the need for minerals would be near nothing (other than much smaller pve losseS) also due to all having the t2 they need pos materials would not be needed, so pos owners would shutdown to only a fistfull.
if that happened people would have no more need for isk once they had there maxed out toys, they would get bored and leave as all professions are needed for each other.
build-shoot-lose/kill-replace
why would people play mission if they had a gist x raven? why would people rat for officers if there was no need for officer loot? why would people rat at all if they never lost ships and money was no object.
yoyr post is so stupidly thought of i cant even continue as this wall of text would span several posts, then 3 more saying how damn stupid you are saying the first thing that enters your head!
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Van'Klomp
Minmatar KarWal Corporation FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.12 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Kethlin PvE?
Raid party forming to Molten Core! Oh wait, wrong game... |
DarkMatter
Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group
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Posted - 2007.06.12 18:16:00 -
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Edited by: DarkMatter on 12/06/2007 18:16:04
Originally by: Xtreem the thing i dont understand when people post this.
carebears and pirates and allaince warfare all all needed in eve!
carebears produce minerals and build ships people buy this to shoot other things
if a pve server exsisted the eccomics would collapse, soon as people had there t2 toys they would never lose them, so the need for them would stop, meanign the need for minerals would be near nothing (other than much smaller pve losseS) also due to all having the t2 they need pos materials would not be needed, so pos owners would shutdown to only a fistfull.
if that happened people would have no more need for isk once they had there maxed out toys, they would get bored and leave as all professions are needed for each other.
build-shoot-lose/kill-replace
why would people play mission if they had a gist x raven? why would people rat for officers if there was no need for officer loot? why would people rat at all if they never lost ships and money was no object.
yoyr post is so stupidly thought of i cant even continue as this wall of text would span several posts, then 3 more saying how damn stupid you are saying the first thing that enters your head!
EnB was full on PvE...
That game lasted for 2 years. And if the game was still around, I can bet you just as many players EVE has would still be playing that PvE game... in fact EVE got many of it's players from EnB when it shut down...
Don't underestimate the value of a PvE casual gaming experience... The vast majority of gamers will prefer that... Just look at high sec in this game...
EVE remains PvP primarily because the DEV's want it that way, less content they have to create, etc...
Building the homestead
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Angellyne
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Posted - 2007.06.12 18:16:00 -
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Sure, why not? It would only need a single solar system: Jita. Hell, you could probably run the whole shard on an old 286.
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stoats
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2007.06.12 18:27:00 -
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Here's a crtical flaw with your suggestion: eve pve is COMPLETELY AWFUL.
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.12 18:29:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 12/06/2007 18:30:05
Originally by: stoats Here's a crtical flaw with your suggestion: eve pve is COMPLETELY AWFUL.
I think it's 50% PVE's awful "and was never meant to be good" and 50% PVP's AWSOME "as it should be. PVE is just a means to make isk for PVP, as it should be.
That and the fact that you said PKers shows you have NO true knowledge of EVE. PKing is inherrently negative. Since EVE is built from the ground up as a PVP game people here do not PK. In EVE people pirate, pillage, plunder, and destroy, but they do not PK. ____________
Dark Shikari> If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. |
Blue Pixie
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Posted - 2007.06.12 18:35:00 -
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We already have this. It's called Singularity.
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Jovoich
Other World Inc
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Posted - 2007.06.12 18:36:00 -
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Lol, best joke ever! You were joking right? Thanks
Jovoich Other World Inc |
dragonssbane
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.06.12 19:00:00 -
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Originally by: Kethlin There are many carebears in Eve and many that have left. Would you consider a pve server? This would not only reduce the load on your present one and create a new beginning without the ongoing wrangling etc on the present one. The only additions required that I can think of would be to add more npcs to the game. Present players could start with existing skills if desired but no items. This would put all on a more equall basis and for those on the pve server the Bob problem would no longer be an issue. Far less gm supervision, and hopefully, less accusations would be a big plus.
Uh.....you must be talking about the Xbox version...right? Dude quit sniffing glue!
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Major Stormer
Caldari Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.06.12 19:09:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean Burn in hell!!
QFT!
--------- Its just a game. Get over yourselfs. www.eve-tribune.com Dont get too excited now.
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Gemini Zero
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.06.12 19:37:00 -
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What if I told you that there is a seperate server where PVP would only be allowed on a consentual basis? Beyond that podding is strictly forbidden!
Well you're in luck my carebear friend...because there is!!!
Singularity
stupid carebears
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Randay
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.06.12 19:39:00 -
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yeah, its called wow.
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Lucy Skylancer
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Posted - 2007.06.12 19:40:00 -
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PvE eve doesn't work. What do you all want to do there ? Rat, run missions, mine and build your own ships in peace, until everyone has 100 units of every ship and faction mod and then the game over ? EVE the collectors game ... boring. The belts in 0.0 would be full of carebears, who basically would do the same there like in high sec now. So you'd all shoot a few npcs that bring more isk (-> inflation) or mine a bit better ore. Oh, big difference. The fun ...
Face it, it would be boring. And no, there is also not much to explore in 0.0. I can make a roundtrip through 0.0 and see everything that might be interesting in 2 weeks or so. Ok, different complexes, fine. They would be overrun by carebears anyway and after doing them a few times, they are boring and they are just good to grind some isk.
EVE without pvp would be boring and the markets would also crash.
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Barbens
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Posted - 2007.06.12 19:42:00 -
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Yea that PVE eve is what they call .5 and above. Stay there and you should be just fine. Ya get blown up? Well at least your assured that concord will get them for ya.
BaRbEnS
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Tkar vonBiggendorf
Gallente MAG black strategic colition of nations Hell Hounds
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Posted - 2007.06.12 19:43:00 -
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Here's your PvE Server.
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.06.12 19:46:00 -
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What is a pve server???
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Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.06.12 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tkar vonBiggendorf Here's your PvE Server.
It was original for about ten minutes. -1/10
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Dau Imperius
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.06.12 20:01:00 -
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IN complete disregard to the others here with 0 braincells (more like cancer cells) in their head. Yes, it could work. Again, the PvE content would have to be upped again. Constant warfare from them, start digging into (and perhaps against) the Joves. Faction warfare? You can do that with NPC fleets ganking on your opposing Empire 24/7.
You see, the PvP players in EVE don't get that you can have the sandbox and the dark, grittness without the stupid player problem. The econimies would still be there, people would lose ships to some of the roughest NPC's this side of hell, (and I'd for one get rid of resistances, enough of this tanking rubbish)
It's do-able and I'd say good-bye to those 50% who'd leave because they can't handle it. The other side of the coin. This wouldn't be WoW either. So stop comparing it to that. No 'lfg to storm the keep for my epic' More like: Looking for help for my life! I'm getting swarmed! Ah....*static*
PvE can offer that without the player BS Pvp gives. It's all in the game's design and AI. EnB would still be going on as mentioned before. It had the pvE to make it last, the GAME was the advisary, and it became increasingly hard to get by as they introduced more content. That game would be kicking EVE in the arse if it were still around. (And we all know the player-base would be less inclined to 'duh...me fight otder players...yeah. Everyting else...burn in hell.' Yeah what aa great response. Well thought out. No, really: That shows why they should not be listened to in the first place.
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The Pointless
Gallente Plastic Toys
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Posted - 2007.06.12 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Gemini Zero stupid carebears
Stop painting us all with the same brush as the OP, thankyouverymuch.
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PirateShampoo
Minmatar UK Corp FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.12 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Marquis Dean Burn in hell!!
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Kwint Sommer
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Posted - 2007.06.12 20:17:00 -
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IĈm a mission runner that avoids any PVP, beyond a frigate-duel, like the plague. That said, I will quit EVE if they make a separate PVE server.
OP, die a slow and horrible death in the vacuum of space.
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Sir Howard
Lynx Frontier Inc. Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.06.12 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Sir Howard on 12/06/2007 20:17:13
Originally by: Kethlin There are many carebears in Eve and many that have left. Would you consider a pve server? This would not only reduce the load on your present one and create a new beginning without the ongoing wrangling etc on the present one. The only additions required that I can think of would be to add more npcs to the game. Present players could start with existing skills if desired but no items. This would put all on a more equall basis and for those on the pve server the Bob problem would no longer be an issue. Far less gm supervision, and hopefully, less accusations would be a big plus.
I truley pitty you...your name shall forever be scathed on these forums lol.
Oh and like someone else said here is what happens if a PvE server were to go up.
PvE Server Online...Yay /carebear logs in /carebear mines /carebear builds ships /carebear puts ships on market /carebear wonders why none of his ships sell /carebear loses Eve-Online
"This is a bad idea wrapped in a horrible plan and shipped in a ******** box"
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings D-L
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Posted - 2007.06.12 20:28:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 12/06/2007 20:32:57 Edited by: DubanFP on 12/06/2007 20:32:37
Originally by: The Pointless
Originally by: Gemini Zero stupid carebears
Stop painting us all with the same brush as the OP, thankyouverymuch.
Hmm i think there's 2 definitions of carebears.
Definition 1: Those who don't fight for any reason, but would rather just build up ISK or be industrial. May or May not accept EVE as it is. Naybe a little novol to many but nothing against them.
Definition 2: Those who don't fight for any reason, and seek to change the entire theame of EVE to suit their Carebearish needs.
With the first quote refering to the carebears that fall under the later definition. A major developer said himself that EVE was supposed to be a Difficult and unforgiving world, not just look like one. ____________
Dark Shikari> If at first you don't succeed, whine about t20. |
Tortun Nahme
Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.06.12 20:30:00 -
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we need new terms
Carebear = PVP virgins who dont WANT to fight CareRats = Lousy PVP players who emulate carebears because they CANT fight and demand the game is changed for them
Real turtles tank armor. Real men fly Pink.
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