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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2011.12.29 23:09:00 -
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Droxlyn wrote:This game is awesome for hardcore. The problem is hardcore gamers are a small fraction of people who play games.
For casual players, anything outside of high-sec is a disaster waiting to happen. Simply boiled down, I don't want to lose a ship/pod because I had to go change a diaper. There is no pause button, which is understandable. Another way to look at it is, there is no amount of ISK that can replace the safety of high-sec. There is no amount of reward that can overcome the inability to walk away from the game the moment the wife shouts "Come here!" and you must just walk away.
if you want to find me in nullsec or lowsec, there needs to be so much of it that a roaming gang has a 1% to 5% chance of finding me on any given day. I need to be comfortable enough that I can walk away from my computer for 15 minutes and reasonably expect my ship and stuff to still be there.
These are the forces you are up against when you try to draw a causal player out into the insecure world.
Reward != Safety, and for causal players, Safety is king.
Edit: I don't want anything changed except people's expectations that everybody wants to live where ISK is bountiful.
Believe me I understand where you are coming from but here are a couple of my thoughts.
1) tell your wife you can't just hit pause whenever and this game is fun but the ships cost money. She needs to understand this at least a bit.
2) Casual players do not all want safety. I surely don't. My biggest problem with the game is the opposite. Once I get a few hours where I can dedicate to some pvp - chances are everyone is playing it safe and its impossible to find decent pvp. People in this game are often so worried about protecting their 10 cent rifter its almost impossible to get a fight.
3) It would definitely help if ccp built some mechanics that brought about some frequent quality small scale pvp for us more casual players who don't have hours to spend waiting for fleets and roaming around "hunting".
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2011.12.29 23:36:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:i dunno high sec scares me... you "feel" safe but then bam all your goodies are gone...
i much prefer NPC 0.0 best space in all of eve...
Yep you set that one order for 100 billion instead of 100 million and all that isk goes poof in brokers fees.
Then don't you wish you would have burned through that isk doing pvp - even if you lost a few ships and pods due to diaper changes? Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2011.12.30 16:25:00 -
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Torin Corax wrote:Cloora wrote:I'm sorry OP but you are very incorrect. I am a father of 3 very young children and I live in low sec and PvP.
Recons are awesome you can cloak and go afk. There are stations in low sec you know that right? It's called docking. Safespot and log with no aggression if you have no cloak.
In high sec you can have issues too. Ever been scrammed in a lvl 4 mission with full aggro?
You are just making excuses. This^ Would also add that there are plenty of corps out there that are active in low/ null peopled by those with similar RL constraints. It is understood that family/ work etc. come first....even during an op. If baby needs changing, starts screaming whatever, then go deal with family. Anyone with a brain is going to understand, if not find a different corp. If it's a big problem then staying away from the more critical fleet roles may be in order. Just be honest about your time constraints up-front, and find a corp that understand and accept them.
This is good advice. Until you start taking risks in eve you won't understand why many find it to be great.
That said lets assume you move plenty ships of fit and ready to go to low sec and convince your wife to give you 2 solid hours to play so you can pvp. You still may find that all you do during that time is warp around looking for a decent pvp fight and then dock after the 2 hours is up. That is where this game sucks for casual players.
CCP could do more for casual players by making mechanics that lead to frequent quality smalll scale pvp. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Cearain
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2011.12.30 17:30:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:A mechanic that removes cowardice as a human trait.
That would be great.
But short of that they could improve, for example, fw plexing to make it fast paced and dynamic. (see my sig) It's not impossible to make games that involve fast paced dynamic pvp. CCP just has never really even tried ourside of fw plexing. That was sort of a half ___ed attempt that they abandoned for years instead of iterating on it. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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