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KHan 01
Amarr Standard Aerospace
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Posted - 2007.04.15 17:32:00 -
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is there any setup that can take on a thorax.
Assume the thorax is close range.
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me bored
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Posted - 2007.04.15 17:35:00 -
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yes
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WYLEE C0Y0TE
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.15 17:37:00 -
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Assume that you don't need to create a new thread for every single possible scenario you can think of for others to tell you what you should do.
You wanna be a sheep, fine, flip a quarter however many times it takes till you have a winner, there, problem solved.
Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif If it's personal, it's because of you.
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Commander Thrawn
Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2007.04.15 17:43:00 -
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um, a zealot will *****any tech1 cruiser
the maller if you nos the rax and fit a 1600 plate should work. unless he's cap boosting
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korrey
Taurus Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.15 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn um, a zealot will *****any tech1 cruiser
the maller if you nos the rax and fit a 1600 plate should work. unless he's cap boosting
Depends, if the vexor starts within 10km their neuts can hurt. But you should be able to kill them long before you run out of cap... ----------- 24.01.06 Small patch that addresses some minor balancing issues 1) All minmatar pilots have been deleted |
KHan 01
Amarr Standard Aerospace
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Posted - 2007.04.15 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn um, a zealot will *****any tech1 cruiser
the maller if you nos the rax and fit a 1600 plate should work. unless he's cap boosting
what if the thorax is cap boosting?
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Commander Thrawn
Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2007.04.15 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: KHan 01
Originally by: Commander Thrawn um, a zealot will *****any tech1 cruiser
the maller if you nos the rax and fit a 1600 plate should work. unless he's cap boosting
what if the thorax is cap boosting?
if it's cap boosting, and the rax pilot has decent skills and know what he's doing, your probably gonna go down in a maller. I would suggest a arbitrator in that case and use tracking disruptors. no tracking = no gank. Then again if you know you'll be fighting a rax, just put a gallente racial jammer on there.
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Valandril
Caldari Resurrection R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.15 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: KHan 01
Originally by: Commander Thrawn um, a zealot will *****any tech1 cruiser
the maller if you nos the rax and fit a 1600 plate should work. unless he's cap boosting
what if the thorax is cap boosting?
Then he looses eve coz no web fited ---
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.04.15 18:44:00 -
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Short answer:
Yes
Long answer:
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssss
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Arx Impera
Amarr Gr0und Zer0
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Posted - 2007.04.15 18:56:00 -
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Zealot will murder the thorax.
Maller comes down to flight and skill points.
If its a standard plate rax against a plate maller (the only way to properly fit a maller really), the maller needs to go for the drones with its small guns, and keep at range... the plate will hold long enough that the thorax wont sustain the MWD to keep range enough. The match will be very very close. Depends on how the maller is set.
If its a cap injector thorax, just web, switch to scorch and lol at his 2k optimal. It takes its time, but it will go down...
Gankrax I dunno really, depends on SP, if the thorax pilot has lots of it, it can break maller tank before its killed.
It also depends if the maller is injected dual Rep, or plated, or has 1 or 2, or even 3, nosses.
It's a very leveled fight.
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.15 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong Short answer:
Yes
Long answer:
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssss
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A maller likly wont do it, but a Zealot will.
You did it wrong.
Short answer: Yes
Long answer: Long answer. ---
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Vaine Amarr
Amarr Upright Citizens Brigade
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Posted - 2007.04.15 19:20:00 -
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Somehow I think he meant Omen and not Zealot __________________________ It's great beeing Amarr, ain't it?
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Commander Thrawn
Fluffy Rabbit Killers
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Posted - 2007.04.15 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vaine Amarr Somehow I think he meant Omen and not Zealot
just cause they look alike in now way are they the same ship :P
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KHan 01
Amarr Standard Aerospace
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Posted - 2007.04.15 20:44:00 -
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Edited by: KHan 01 on 15/04/2007 20:41:11 Edited by: KHan 01 on 15/04/2007 20:40:31 yeah i meant omen. I know the thorax will be using cap injectors, webber and mwd. my corp is doing a cruiser comp so no scramblers.
I have energy system op 5 and energy management 3( the 2 cap skills). I also have cruiser V, AWU 4. med beam specialization 4 and med pulse specialzation 4. I have all armor compensation skills at 4.
I was wondering if any1 had a setup that could counter the rupture too and all other cruisers(including ones with range). No crusier will be using scrambler or t2 items in the competition. Assume all other pilots are skilled.
I was thinking along the lines of (on the maller): 4x named focused heavy beams, 2x med nos. 1x cap injector, 1x fleeting webber, 1x tracking disruptor named. 2xmed accom rep,2xeanm t1, 1x nammed damage controller and 1x RCU.
I am not sure if it can all fit since jita wont load.
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lofty29
Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.15 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Thrawn
Originally by: Vaine Amarr Somehow I think he meant Omen and not Zealot
just cause they look alike in now way are they the same ship :P
Zealots crap enough to be an omen *run* ---
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Angus McLean
Gallente Divinity Trials
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Posted - 2007.04.15 20:52:00 -
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Just a note, if your corp is having a cruiser fight and no T2 is allowed then the Maller is your only hope. The Omen is best in gangs and gangs alone..
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Zhaine
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.15 20:52:00 -
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Originally by: WYLEE C0Y0TE Assume that you don't need to create a new thread for every single possible scenario you can think of for others to tell you what you should do.
You wanna be a sheep, fine, flip a quarter however many times it takes till you have a winner, there, problem solved.
D'you fancy like, not flaming every new thread in S & M saying it's pointless? People can ask for advice if they want. . . - - - - - - - - - -
Give this a read. |
lofty29
Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.15 20:55:00 -
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Originally by: Zhaine
Originally by: WYLEE C0Y0TE Assume that you don't need to create a new thread for every single possible scenario you can think of for others to tell you what you should do.
You wanna be a sheep, fine, flip a quarter however many times it takes till you have a winner, there, problem solved.
D'you fancy like, not flaming every new thread in S & M saying it's pointless? People can ask for advice if they want. . .
Indeed, it's people like him, not BoB, who are killing eve *hide from BoB*
On a bob-related note, I still have jumpclones on my alt in old ASCN stations...hrrmm, now theyre BoB, hmmm, that could be fun! ---
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.04.15 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Angus McLean Just a note, if your corp is having a cruiser fight and no T2 is allowed then the Maller is your only hope. The Omen is best in gangs and gangs alone..
Arbitrator > Maller.
NOS,NOS,NOS, NOS AB, web, inj, Td MAR, 1600, EANM, DC
5 x Drones.
Orbit @ 1-6km[closer = less dmg to tracking, farther = less dmg to falloff], stick on the TD. Web if he tries to run, leave it off if he doesnt[keeps transversal up]. Stick on the drones and recall if they start to take damage[they shouldnt with the TD on].
If you dont think running is likly, then drop the web for another TD. Or the injector for another TD.[you should have plenty of cap from the NOS without an AB to run the rep, but it could be an issue against AC ships, drone ships, or missile ships] ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew" |
Phoenus
Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.15 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Phoenus on 15/04/2007 21:36:15
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Angus McLean Just a note, if your corp is having a cruiser fight and no T2 is allowed then the Maller is your only hope. The Omen is best in gangs and gangs alone..
Arbitrator > Maller.
NOS,NOS,NOS, NOS AB, web, inj, Td MAR, 1600, EANM, DC
5 x Drones.
Orbit @ 1-6km[closer = less dmg to tracking, farther = less dmg to falloff], stick on the TD. Web if he tries to run, leave it off if he doesnt[keeps transversal up]. Stick on the drones and recall if they start to take damage[they shouldnt with the TD on].
If you dont think running is likly, then drop the web for another TD. Or the injector for another TD.[you should have plenty of cap from the NOS without an AB to run the rep, but it could be an issue against AC ships, drone ships, or missile ships]
I'd put more money on a Rupture, personally.
Or, Caracal > anything, depending on starting conditions (distance from each other, etc.)
However, the pilot asked for Amarr, so I'll be quiet now
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Monticore D'Muertos
Caldari United Society Starfleet Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.15 21:42:00 -
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thorax with 5 x med ecm drones can wint alot of cruiser vs cruiser all he needs is 1 jam
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.15 21:50:00 -
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never been beaten 1v1 with this fitting:
5 neutron +AM mwd I webber I scrammer I 2 mag stab I 2 eanm I tracking mod
5 hammarhead
uber gankage- no need for anything else just hit them as hard as you can as fast as you can:)
Originally by: inSpirAcy Don't worry, it's the bullying culture EVE attracts.
You don't actually have to make a point if you get enough people to laugh with you.
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Captain Blart
Hideous Mutant Freekz
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Posted - 2007.04.15 22:01:00 -
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don't let the rax pilot get in blaster range or it's going to be painfull . i dont think you stand a chance in a maller/omen to be honest if the rax pilot have good skills, even 5 medium T2 drones will kill you if he have decent drones skills ( i mean around 3-4 millions in drones).
But if you use an arbitrator, thats another story. As you know Gallente ( and Amarr ) guns need cap, so you just have to NOS him first, kill his drones with yours in the same time, then he will be helpless. He wont be able to fire his guns, scramble, web and repair the damage so it just a matter of times before he goes boom
Another option is to use a rupture or a stabber and keep the bugger out of blasters range while you send him to the afterlife
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Crellion
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.16 00:01:00 -
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If he wont use a scram you are in trouble... I d say fight for a short while and then warp off for a nice little forfeit that lets you keep your ship.
If you have to fight for some reason use a/cs and a super tank. If he knows you are using ammar he will forgo the expl hardening so you should be doing good damage. Use the smaller cruiser sized so you can fit a large plate and keep your little fingers crossed. You ll still probably go down.
If you have good drone skills and are thinking about the arbitrator make sure you fit a neut as well because you cant nos him fast enough....
I dont know m8 I think my best advice is read the first paragraph above again... a Thorax with an extra midslot is too much for any ammar tech I cruiser... unless... try fitting a dual reper on that maller and test with a friend with a rax with good skills. (probably wont work either )...
K last brainfart, think about 2xweb... if you are experienced you might acheive an 8km orbit which if he doesnt have null and with electrons fitted might just keep you alive...
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Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.04.16 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: Crellion If he wont use a scram you are in trouble... I d say fight for a short while and then warp off for a nice little forfeit that lets you keep your ship.
If you have to fight for some reason use a/cs and a super tank. If he knows you are using ammar he will forgo the expl hardening so you should be doing good damage. Use the smaller cruiser sized so you can fit a large plate and keep your little fingers crossed. You ll still probably go down.
If you have good drone skills and are thinking about the arbitrator make sure you fit a neut as well because you cant nos him fast enough....
I dont know m8 I think my best advice is read the first paragraph above again... a Thorax with an extra midslot is too much for any ammar tech I cruiser... unless... try fitting a dual reper on that maller and test with a friend with a rax with good skills. (probably wont work either )...
K last brainfart, think about 2xweb... if you are experienced you might acheive an 8km orbit which if he doesnt have null and with electrons fitted might just keep you alive...
Dont bother with the orbit
5 x FMP AB, 2x 90% web MAR, 800rt, DC, best named HS x 3
Put gamma or x-ray in and then "keep at range" of about 8km
He doesnt have t2 either right?
That should be good for a thorax. Maybe for a rupture, unlikly though ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew" |
Wolverine PL
Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.16 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: KHan 01
Originally by: Commander Thrawn um, a zealot will *****any tech1 cruiser
the maller if you nos the rax and fit a 1600 plate should work. unless he's cap boosting
what if the thorax is cap boosting?
If he have cap boosting then he dont have web, you are in maller, so you have better range then his blasters, keep orbiting at 7-8km and nos him and shoot. after he's out of cap finish him. ofc first shot his drones
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Roue
Alcoholics R' Us Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.16 05:54:00 -
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Edited by: Roue on 16/04/2007 05:51:05 I will kill any t1 cruiser in my Arbitrator 1v1.
I've even killed battlecruisers.
No you don't get the setup on the forums but if you eve-mail me I talk to you about it. Requires some skills but not much in gear. Just finished killing a t2 rax about 30 min ago in a 1v1.
And it doesn't use a 1600 plate, nor do I agree with anything the other arbi pilot said about tactics. He may be correct in his style. But there are alternative methods that can be effective. This is my opinion not that of privateer corp, alliance, its member corps, affiliates, minions, pet animals, ex girlfriends, former roommates, 3rd grade gym teachers, late relatives, ontime relatives, |
mematar
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.16 05:59:00 -
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Originally by: Roue Edited by: Roue on 16/04/2007 05:51:05 I will kill any t1 cruiser in my Arbitrator 1v1.
I've even killed battlecruisers.
No you don't get the setup on the forums but if you eve-mail me I talk to you about it. Requires some skills but not much in gear. Just finished killing a t2 rax about 30 min ago in a 1v1.
And it doesn't use a 1600 plate, nor do I agree with anything the other arbi pilot said about tactics. He may be correct in his style. But there are alternative methods that can be effective.
1on1? I'm up for it. I will bet that you wont kill me in a 1on1 with your Arbitrator vs. my Rupture.
Up for it?
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lee jack
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Posted - 2007.04.16 06:11:00 -
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yes
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Tista
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Posted - 2007.04.16 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Roue Edited by: Roue on 16/04/2007 05:51:05 I will kill any t1 cruiser in my Arbitrator 1v1.
I've even killed battlecruisers.
No you don't get the setup on the forums but if you eve-mail me I talk to you about it. Requires some skills but not much in gear. Just finished killing a t2 rax about 30 min ago in a 1v1.
And it doesn't use a 1600 plate, nor do I agree with anything the other arbi pilot said about tactics. He may be correct in his style. But there are alternative methods that can be effective.
lol most of the kills i get in my gank-rax are made by arbis/vexors.. i think you will find they got no tank :D
Originally by: inSpirAcy Don't worry, it's the bullying culture EVE attracts.
You don't actually have to make a point if you get enough people to laugh with you.
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