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Takhar Kenvari
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.13 15:01:05 -
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Hi,
I'm considering building a new PC, and I'm wondering what the community recommends for a PC intended to run multiple Eve clients simultaneously? |
Cutter Isaacson
wiggle Tech. Pandamimic Legion
3137
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Posted - 2016.12.13 15:10:08 -
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Takhar Kenvari wrote:Hi,
I'm considering building a new PC, and I'm wondering what the community recommends for a PC intended to run multiple Eve clients simultaneously?
Country of origin and potential budget please.
"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
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Bjorn Tyrson
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2016.12.13 15:17:10 -
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Dual potatoes wired together...
Seriously multiple clients aren't that much more of a strain than one client. If you can handle one you can probably handle 3-5 |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2016.12.13 15:22:47 -
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You'd be surprised how many you can run on a pretty basic system if you play in full screen windowed mode and just tab between them.
It only gets tricky when you start using multi monitors or 30"+ 4k monitors to keep multiple accts on the screens at the same time. So a little more information from you about how you want to be playing these accts would be helpful.
Mr Epeen
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
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Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.13 16:08:05 -
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Concentrate more on good graphics card than processor. SSD drive of course.
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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
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Posted - 2016.12.13 16:37:03 -
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Lots of RAM. At least 8GB, but 16GB would be better. If low or medium graphic settings are good enough for you, a low end gaming computer should be enough.
It also depends on what you do in EVE. Complex scenes (i.e. big fleet fight) need A LOT more processing power than simple ones (i.e. belt ratting alone). |
Daemun Khanid
Calculated Miscalculation
670
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Posted - 2016.12.13 18:41:50 -
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Eve does not use a significant amount of ram or cpu. 8gb is plenty unless you plan on running client numbers in the double digits. As previously mentioned it depends on what exactly youre planning on doing. 3 screens 3 clients, 1 screen 3 clients, etc. If you plan on multiple clients being displayed across multiple screens then a decent video card is your priority. If youre using one screen its not as much issue since no matter how many clients are running the same number of pixels are being calculated.
Other than that, ssd cause if youre gonna have multiple clients accessing the drive at the same time you to want to be bottlenecked by access speeds, and network speed and reliability. If your connection isnt up to snuff and youve got 4 clients sending and recieving packets then bend over and prepare for socket closures.
Most important of all these things, read and understand the eula. You may not send inputs to multiple clients simultaneously. You may not use third party software to display only portions of each client screen. All clients must be viewed full and unedited. You may not use macros to send more than one shortcut command with a single keypress. If the input cant be assigned in the shortcut settings for a single action then it cant be assigned to a programmable key.
Have fun, dont get banned, and dont whine about it and claim innocence if you do.
Daemun of Khanid
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Mister Poopypants
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.12.13 20:05:08 -
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I run 2 accounts on a mid-2015 iMac (maxed out specs for back then, but not the 5K display), and 4 accounts on an OC'd Haswell-E with a 980Ti and 32GB running Win10. The PC has occasional stability issues, and the iMac, while not as detailed on the graphics, has been rock solid. |
Scarlett LaBlanc
Midnight Savran Industries
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Posted - 2016.12.13 22:08:13 -
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I have been running several accounts for some time. The rig I'm using now I built four or so years ago. I'll give you the specs so you have an idea what level of (old) hardware will do for you.
i5-2500 CPU @3.3GHZ 16 GB RAM 8800GTS GPU (EVGA made I think)
Using this I ran as many as five accounts driven unto two 32 inch monitors (1080p), using the awesome eve-o tool.
While the 5th account did stress the GPU a little and I had to turn down some quality settings on a few accounts, I never had any issues. I caught a sale a few months ago and picked up a GTX970 and its WAY overkill for eve. Five accounts all on highest settings don't even take it over 50%.
As far as internet connection, eve needs a stable connection way more than speed. There is a lot of traffic, but not much data. Several times when my ISP was having issues I ran my five accounts of my cell phone (AT&T) and never had any issues with socket closing.
Hope some of that was helpful to you.
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Iain Cariaba
3376
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Posted - 2016.12.13 22:44:27 -
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My setup:
Dual towers: 1 - Athlon II x4 @ 3 GHZ 8GB RAM nVidia 560 GT 4GB GPU running a 55" 4k TV that I run 2 clients split screen. This old tub easily runs 3 clients in window mode, and will run all 5 of my accounts when they're fullscreen.
2 - FX-9590 8 core 4.72GHZ 16GB RAM nVidia GTX 960 4GB GPU running a 50" 4k TV that I run one client and all my references on. Unfortunately, the tower on this one is poorly designed, and the radiator for my liquid cooling sits right below my GPU. This gives me heating issues with the GPU. It'll run all 5 of my accounts in window mode on max graphics, at least til the GPU shuts down due to heat.
Pretty much anywhere in between those two and you're good.
Oh, yeah. For those of you using multi-tower setups and suffering through hardware KVM switches. Look up a program called Synergy. It's a lovely software KVM switch.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
EvE is a PvP game. Stop pretending it isn't.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Takhar Kenvari
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.14 00:52:36 -
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Yeah, I guess I should have been more specific.
Eventually I want to be running up to 5 accounts simultaneously. Multi-Monitor setup (which I suspect might be the most complex/expensive part to set up, and the part I haven't done before). |
Musashi Date
62
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Posted - 2016.12.14 01:10:35 -
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Intel Core2Duo E8200 2.66Ghz 4gb ram no SSD radeon 4670 1gb
Circa 2008ish hardware, runs 8 clients, windowed mode, all low settings. IIRC, the task monitor probably still has enough room for 1~2 more clients but my mobo is sounding out the CPU thermal ceiling warning beeps. No thermal shutdowns @ 8 clients tho, considering my ambient/environ. temps are in the range of 32-35oC.
Then there is always thewis' setup, go check it out. |
Iain Cariaba
3376
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Posted - 2016.12.14 02:16:30 -
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Takhar Kenvari wrote:Yeah, I guess I should have been more specific.
Eventually I want to be running up to 5 accounts simultaneously. Multi-Monitor setup (which I suspect might be the most complex/expensive part to set up, and the part I haven't done before). I've done some research and discussed the options with my landlord, who's a rather successful private IT consultant in his day job. It's actually cheaper to build a couple lower end PCs, and KVM them together, than it is to build a single really powerful PC to run 5 accounts simultaneously on a single tower multi-monitor setup.
For example, to build by better tower would cost the following: (prices from newegg and in US$) CPU: 200 M. Board: 140 RAM: 100 GPU: 400 Single 1TB standard HDD, optical drive (dvd burner), tower, and power supply come to about 200. Total for higher end tower that doesn't run 5 clients at full graphics: about US$1,040 without monitor and can power three HDMI ports or two DVIs
To build my lower end PC: CPU: 90 M. Board: 75 RAM: 50 GPU: 120 Single 1TB standard HDD, optical drive (dvd burner), tower, and power supply come to about 200. Total for lower end tower that can still run 2 clients at full graphics, or 5 on the preset for memory: about $550 without monitors and can power two DVI ports.
If you just get what you need to meet the recommended requirements for the game, and have access to some slightly used towers and optical drives, you can build one for significantly cheaper.
My setup I had planned on building, before the screaming deal on my newer tower came up, was to spend about US$1,000 and build three towers. One higher end to run 3 monitors and two lower end to run a single each.
EvE is hard. It's harder if you're stupid.
EvE is a PvP game. Stop pretending it isn't.
Hello, Mr Carebear. Would you like some cheese with that whine?
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Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
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Posted - 2016.12.14 11:43:51 -
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Even with a beefy setup a single system tends to get a little sluggish running multiple clients once you pass so many clients so in that respect having 2 lower powered PCs would result in better performance than 1 higher end one.
Generally I find you need about 2GB for the OS and then 2GB for each client you want to run if you want to keep things running smoothly - though you can also turn settings down a bit and reduce that somewhat. |
TackyTachy1
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.12.15 04:28:10 -
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After stumbling about in Eve for a month or so I finally decided to be a multi-boxer. I built three rather hi-end computers (i7/16 gb ram/ATI R9 Series (Can't remember which one, too lazy to hunt it down) along with three rather compact computer desks. The monitors are all squished together with all three trackballs on the center slide-out tray. Each computer runs one client, each client has multiple characters so basically this setup enables me to fly three ships at once. I never attempted to fly Eve with multiple clients on one box as to me it seems just so cool to fly my ships in formation. For my own preferences I'd rather multi-box with fairly high-end gaming computers rather than go the single box route. Either way be prepared to drop some loot; I could've bought a small (used) car for the money I've got in this setup.
My Eve command Center: Eve Command Center
Forum Rep for a bunch of characters, couple corps
and one seriously Lost In Space multiboxer.
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Nex Killer
Arbiters of the Void Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2016.12.15 08:40:07 -
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Eve doesn't take a lot to run, so I'll just post what I posted in another thread found here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6624607#post6624607
Quote:I use to do some heavy multiboxing and I would run 32-38 accounts on my PC just fine. The Specs were i7-4770k @ 4.5GHz, 32GB DDR3, 2x ATI 7870, and the game would run off a SSD. If I would you I would get a ATI RX 470 or RX 480 that has 8GB of VRAM, your CPU is fine and you got a nice amount of RAM for 20-25 accounts.
So just get what is the newer 4770k and get the same amount and RAM and you'll be fine. Hell this can run a few accounts fine too: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PqTW9W |
Rroff
Antagonistic Tendencies
1028
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Posted - 2016.12.15 11:57:57 -
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TackyTachy1 wrote:After stumbling about in Eve for a month or so I finally decided to be a multi-boxer. I built three rather hi-end computers (i7/16 gb ram/ATI R9 Series (Can't remember which one, too lazy to hunt it down) along with three rather compact computer desks. The monitors are all squished together with all three trackballs on the center slide-out tray. Each computer runs one client, each client has multiple characters so basically this setup enables me to fly three ships at once. I never attempted to fly Eve with multiple clients on one box as to me it seems just so cool to fly my ships in formation. For my own preferences I'd rather multi-box with fairly high-end gaming computers rather than go the single box route. Either way be prepared to drop some loot; I could've bought a small (used) car for the money I've got in this setup. My Eve command Center: Eve Command Center
With the same UI layout I find I can alt-tab between 2 clients on the same system and utilise them pretty much as effectively as one - where it starts getting tricky is with 3 (or more) clients as its much harder to remember which client you need to change to and not so seamless to swap between them. |
Esrevid Nekkeg
Justified and Ancient
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Posted - 2016.12.15 12:36:20 -
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Any decently modern machine can run multiple EvE accounts simultaneously. Off course it depends on you definition of 'multiple', but still.
For example, I personally run two accounts on a two monitor setup, one on high and one on low settings. On a six year old machine that when it was new could be best described a medium range. Its old, obsolete and doesn't hold up to any modern standards, but still runs two EvE clients quite adequately.
Here I used to have a sig of our old Camper in space. Now it is disregarded as being the wrong format.
Looking out the window I see one thing: Nothing wrong with the format of our Camper! Silly CCP......
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Sonya Corvinus
Grant Village
853
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Posted - 2016.12.15 16:22:29 -
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It doesn't take much. I can easily run 3 accounts on a laptop I got off the shelf in best buy... |
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