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Terianna Eri
Amarr STK Scientific Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.10 17:04:00 -
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This **** is kickass, thank you so much ^-^ __________________________________ <-- Behold, the eve-o forums |
Robbie Boozecruise
Caldari Eve Defence Force Pure.
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Posted - 2007.04.10 21:59:00 -
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Thank you
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Mista Mojo
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.11 05:53:00 -
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Very nice, you are a hero in my bok!! I got no fear, becuz i have a lot of beer :) |
Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.04.12 09:14:00 -
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Thank you again for all your comments.
I have some other additions I want to make to the spreadsheet - assuming time and circumstance allow for those - and I'll update this thread as appropriate when those happen.
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Isentro
Pyrrhus Sicarii Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.14 19:41:00 -
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Excellent work, i think i speak on behalf of all drone lovers out there, in saying you are the man.
Thanks again,
Isentro.
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Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.04.16 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Isentro Excellent work, i think i speak on behalf of all drone lovers out there, in saying you are the man.
/me checks pants
It's true! \o/
Next update to the Drone Calculator should be tomorrow.
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Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.04.17 18:46:00 -
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Latest version is now available for download. You can now use the spreadsheet to see how effective target painting and tracking disrupting drones are.
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General Xerxes
Delta Omega Iota Inc. Breidablik
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Posted - 2007.04.17 22:16:00 -
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Your spreadsheet is brilliant and I can confirm it works perfectly on OpenOffice.
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Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.04.19 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: General Xerxes Your spreadsheet is brilliant and I can confirm it works perfectly on OpenOffice.
Thank you, good to know.
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Kaylee Kaitlen
Gallente Absolutely No Return
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Posted - 2007.04.20 14:58:00 -
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Hey there -- this was posted from the Drone Guide thread where I noted that the difference between Hammer 2's and regular Hammers appeared to be too small. To recap, here was my original comment:
Quote: For example, given my current (rookie) skills, I got the following DPS/sec with my drones:
Hammerhead 2: 12.3 Ogre 1: 22.7 Warden: 23.2
However, I'm not 100% sure that this is correct, since it shows that Hammer 1s are 11.9, which seems like too small a difference, IMO.
As you requested, here are the skill levels I entered into the ss to get these values:
Drone Interfacing : 4 Gallente Drone Spec: 2 Scout Drone Ops: 5 Heavy Drone Ops: 3 Sentry Drone Interfacing: 2 Combat Drone Ops: 4 Ship Bonus (10%): 3
And I had the following values in the "resistances" column:
EM: 43 Exp: 55 Kin: 40 Therm: 56
This gives me the numbers I stated before. Thanks in advance for sharing any light on this.
Damage is king, Speed kills, Style is everything Burn with passion, Kill with rage, Live with hope, Die with honor |
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Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:24:00 -
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Kaylee Kaitlen, I've gone over my figures and you're correct, my spreadsheet was wrong for both T2 light and medium drones (I put in the damage modifier for the T1 variant rather than T2). As such the damage values displayed for T2 light/medium drones were 20% lower than they should have been.
I've corrected it and uploaded the spreadsheet with the right figures now. You should be able to see the real difference between your T1 and T2 Hammerheads.
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to wipe some egg off my face...
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Keitaro Baka
Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:26:00 -
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:) It looks good now, I would like to suggest you add a version number to the sheet now, so people know they need to update to the latest version.
Also I know most people who use this will probably understand but you might want to include a reminder that damage modifier * base damage = theoretical dps, but drone damage over time depends very much on drone travel speed and drone tracking (those wrecking hits rule) and unlike the tech 1 - tech 2 dmg mod bonus (20%) the tracking speed bonus is not constant (for instance for medium drones between 10% en 35%), making it pretty much impossible to really calculate the damage your drones will be doing.
Good stuff tho, thnx for this one
PS: Sorry for not responding sooner, but it felt a bit weird looking at the numbers, and I didn't want to do it in the forums, just forgot to use eve mail etc. All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide.. |
Kaylee Kaitlen
Gallente Absolutely No Return
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Posted - 2007.04.21 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: Ebedar Now if you'll excuse me, I have to wipe some egg off my face...
No worries -- I've done ss's for games and things before and until you release it to the masses, you never really get a decent test. I'm just glad I could help and thanks for providing such a useful tool!
Damage is king, Speed kills, Style is everything Burn with passion, Kill with rage, Live with hope, Die with honor |
Norath84
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 04:08:00 -
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Nice spreadsheet and It works perfectly inn OpenOffice.
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Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.04.22 14:20:00 -
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Originally by: Keitaro Baka :) It looks good now, I would like to suggest you add a version number to the sheet now, so people know they need to update to the latest version.
I think, for my own ease, I'll just edit the title to show when the spreadsheet was last updated. I'll also mention somewhere in the original post that it's theoretical DPS lest I get lynched by angry drone users with pitchforks.
Originally by: Kaylee Kaitlen No worries -- I've done ss's for games and things before and until you release it to the masses, you never really get a decent test. I'm just glad I could help and thanks for providing such a useful tool!
Cheers and thanks for the feedback.
Originally by: Norath84 Nice spreadsheet and It works perfectly inn OpenOffice.
Thanks, this was also confirmed in a previous post so I've added that information to the original post.
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Lord Timelord
Gallente Artifex Dynamics
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Posted - 2007.04.25 12:43:00 -
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Spreadsheet needs to be updated with the current patches Nyx nerf. The Nyx's Fighter damage bonus was reduced from 10% per level to 5% per level. __________
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Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.04.25 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Timelord Spreadsheet needs to be updated with the current patches Nyx nerf. The Nyx's Fighter damage bonus was reduced from 10% per level to 5% per level.
Yeah, it's on my 'to do' list, should be a simple enough change. Until then, people can use the input field for the Thanatos as that gets the same bonus as the nerfed Nyx.
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Scordite
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Posted - 2007.04.27 22:35:00 -
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This looks like a fun toy. Thanks for the work that's gone into making it, Ebedar
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bellator militaris
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Posted - 2007.05.12 08:05:00 -
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Khaladan knows what he is talking about. To the point. Simple. No ramblings here. Thanks for the super information Khaladan! Great Post. Bellator Militaris The Wild Bunch.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
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Posted - 2007.05.12 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 12/05/2007 08:43:24 Currently, the spreadsheet is making some rather optimistic predictions - it assumes that every shot from every drone will hit. Even under ideal circumstances, drones sometimes have less than a 100% chance to hit, due to their own orbit speed. Also, sentry drones tend to be particularly feeble against small or fast-moving targets due to their high sig res and poor tracking.
After allowing for chance to hit, there is another formula that gives the correction for hit quality, which decreases in line with chance to hit:
Hit chance: 2^-((transversal/(tracking*range)*sig_res/sig_rad)^2+(MAX(0,range-optimal)/falloff)^2)
Hit quality correction: Expected DPS = Base DPS * (min(ChanceToHit , 1%)*3 + max(0,ChanceToHit - 1%)*(0.99+chance to hit)/2)
The only other suggestion I have at the moment is that for the 'Total Drone DPS' cell, you might consider using the SUMPRODUCT function; it's a lot neater
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Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.05.15 12:54:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Currently, the spreadsheet is making some rather optimistic predictions - it assumes that every shot from every drone will hit. Even under ideal circumstances, drones sometimes have less than a 100% chance to hit, due to their own orbit speed. Also, sentry drones tend to be particularly feeble against small or fast-moving targets due to their high sig res and poor tracking.
I've said in the initial post that "DPS values are theoretical - in actual combat situations they will obviously vary depending on factors such as speed and tracking." I think that covers it, for the most part. Trying to accommodate a number of different variables is just going to complicate things.
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Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.05.15 12:56:00 -
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Minor addition this time around - the Thanatos and Nyx bonus have been merged into one field now as they are both the same.
Next release should have web drone effects in it.
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IHurricane
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2007.05.15 13:54:00 -
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Nice work mate, much apriciated. ---------------------------------------------
There was never a genius, without a tincture of madness - Aristotle |
Ebedar
Gallente Primary Intelligence
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Posted - 2007.05.17 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: IHurricane Nice work mate, much apriciated.
You're welcome
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CoZie
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Posted - 2007.06.13 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Ebedar Minor addition this time around - the Thanatos and Nyx bonus have been merged into one field now as they are both the same.
Next release should have web drone effects in it.
would be very cool to have a webdrone calculator :-)
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Ebedar
Gallente Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.06.13 19:33:00 -
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Originally by: CoZie would be very cool to have a webdrone calculator :-)
This has now been added.
As I'm leaving the game soon, this is the last version of the spreadsheet that I'm releasing and it incorporates all the features I intended for it to have.
If anyone else would like to adapt and update the spreadsheet in future and make it available for public use, they are free to do so. All I would ask is that you reference the original source and don't try to pass it off as all your own work.
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Tekka Irukandji
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.06.13 20:10:00 -
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Yeah um the link appears to be broke (PAGE NOT FOUND) for your spreadsheet. ----------------------------------------- Don't submit to stupid rules Be yourself and not a fool Don't accept average habits Open your heart and push the limits |
PartyVaN
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.06.13 20:17:00 -
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yea 404'd...
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Ebedar
Gallente Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.06.13 20:22:00 -
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Mistake on my part while uploading. Should work now.
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SisterVera
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Posted - 2007.06.23 19:22:00 -
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I think an update is needed :-) T2 sentry drones r out :-)
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