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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2016.09.05 16:33:00 -
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As part of the preparations for the launch of Clone States in November, and as part of our continuous efforts to improve account security for EVE Online, we are currently in the process of working on changes to the EVE Online client that will result in the removal of the ability to log into EVE via launching exefile.exe from the EVE\sharedcache\%servername%\bin\ folder.
This change is currently planned to be implemented on September 20th.
After this date, players will no longer be able to log in directly through the front end of the EVE Online client and will instead be required to use the launcher to log in at all times in order to improve account security and streamline the login process.
If you would like to discuss this change, you can do so in this thread.
CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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CCP Falcon
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Posted - 2016.09.05 16:36:08 -
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Reserved!
CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
Happy Birthday To FAWLTY7! <3
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Posted - 2016.09.05 20:00:28 -
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If you log into account management, there's now a button to expire all your log in tokens.
Was recently added, we just haven't messaged it yet
CCP Falcon || EVE Universe Community Manager || @CCP_Falcon
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2016.09.06 10:05:37 -
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Chribba wrote:for those that are stlil using the "old" launcher, is that one going to be killed suddenly too? (I know it's not "supported" but it can still be used) Yes, it will stop working at some point in the near/medium future without any further warning.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Posted - 2016.09.06 11:56:22 -
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Chribba wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Chribba wrote:for those that are stlil using the "old" launcher, is that one going to be killed suddenly too? (I know it's not "supported" but it can still be used) Yes, it will stop working at some point in the near/medium future without any further warning. Will the "handshake" be kept even after the 20th? (Pretty pls keep it!) Yes.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Posted - 2016.09.06 11:59:20 -
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Tenko Sanka wrote:I use XP and have five accounts all subbed! I still use the old login method via Exe.exe and cannot download or use the new login method. How will I be able to login or do I just give up and not play until I buy a new PC? A bit stupid to have to pay -ú750 to play a -ú5 game imho. If you are using Windows XP then you are also using the old Launcher to patch, correct? Unfortunately, neither Windows XP nor the old Launcher are supported anymore. The minimum system requirements were updated a while back to Windows 7 and above and the old Launcher has been deprecated.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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CCP Darwin
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Posted - 2016.09.06 16:27:20 -
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Your Launcher Sucks wrote:If you don't fix the problem with the launcher forgetting account info everytime there's a network connection drop (example: coming out of sleep mode)
The launcher team is aware that people are experiencing this type of problem, but my understanding is that they need fully documented bug reports with all the information they need to identify the issue.
If so, a well-documented bug report that includes a launcher log would be very helpful to the team. Here are some questions I'd suggest trying to answer clearly in your bug report:
1) If the launcher prompts for a login rather than presenting an account list, do you always log in with the same account username or do you sometimes use different usernames? 2) Do you always leave the launcher running or do you exit it and restart it between sessions? 3) If you have a series of steps that always cause the problem to occur, first, what did you do to get to the initial state of the launcher, and second, what are those steps that cause the problem? 4) What is the output when you run dxdiag.exe? 5) What is the output when you run msinfo32.exe? (Use the "Export..." function to save a text file.) 6) After you reproduce the problem, what are the contents of your launcher logs? (You can get to them by choosing "Show In Explorer > Launcher Logs" from the main launcher menu.)
If you can provide screenshots that illustrate the steps of your reproducing the problem, that might be helpful.
To get to the web page to submit a bug report, the easiest way is to click on the Bug Report button on the far right side of the launcher window.
Once you have a bug report that includes all of this information (most importantly, launcher logs!) please feel free to send me the EBR number and I'll pass it along to the launcher team so they can take a look at it.
If you encounter limits regarding the number or size of attachments in a bug report, please mention it when mailing me the EBR number and I can help you submit the information another way if it would be helpful.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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CCP Goliath
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Posted - 2016.09.06 16:48:08 -
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Just a note folks to say that we are compiling a list of questions asked in the thread and will have updates and answers hopefully tomorrow.
CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
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CCP Darwin
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Posted - 2016.09.07 10:15:26 -
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Rorhke Shardani wrote:Any attempt to run the launcher fails miserably. It runs, accepts the login but when I try to launch the client it just hangs (exefile.exe never even appears in task manager)
A troubleshooting step that I've seen resolve some issues where the launcher appears to work fine but the client won't start:
Exit the launcher.
Navigate to C:\ProgramData\CCP\Eve\SharedCache (or wherever your shared cache is located, if you've chosen a nonstandard location.)
Delete the directory named "tq" and all of its contents.
Start the launcher and launch the game.
Let me know if that helps.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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CCP Darwin
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Posted - 2016.09.07 14:28:25 -
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Rorhke Shardani wrote:However this general thread may not be the best place to troubleshoot my particular problems - should this be continued in a ticket or is there a better place to get this particular question resolved ? You're very right, sorry to take the discussion off-topic. I would recommend that if you're having specific launcher issues that you post in the Eve Launcher forum or make a support ticket here.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2016.09.07 15:52:43 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Tsukino Stareine wrote: Finally I believe the way the launcher works is just entering your information to the existing exefile login screen and just bypasses it instead. If it doesn't work then it's probably something to do with your network or possible software conflict or even malware. It makes no sense that CCP would not test the launcher in multiple common platforms before removing the old one, which is happening now.
The launcher works by talking to the SSO login server, and getting an access token. This token is then passed to the exefile and used for auth. Username and password are never passed to the exefile. Confirmed; even further, the Launcher embeds a direct interface to the login server (the SSO) so the Launcher doesn't even see the password. It extracts the reply, the access token, and passes on to the exefile, and knows what account this is to build the list of accounts.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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CCP Goliath
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Posted - 2016.09.08 08:31:46 -
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Hey all,
Updated 2nd post with some questions that have been asked by people. Working on getting more answers too.
EDIT: Decided to replicate the post here too (though this will not get updated, but the front page post will)
Some answers to questions posed in the thread:
GÇ£The launcher forgets my accounts if I leave it open for too longGÇ¥ If you are logged in and subsequently enable a VPN connection, the SSO iframe fails and then forgets your accounts. We believe there may also be an issue with time passing or network connectivity loss that we are trying to narrow down to root cause(s). In the past we have forced the launcher to forget all accounts, for security reasons (and one deployment error). These purges occurred on: 25/11/15, 26/1/16, 8/2/16 and 20/6/16.
GÇ£The launcher doesnGÇÖt expire logins/refresh tokensGÇ¥ Accounts management now contains the functionality to delete all SSO tokens - located at https://secure.eveonline.com/LoginHistory.aspx Changing password manually via account management also automatically does this The Password Recovery process doesnGÇÖt currently have this functionality, but itGÇÖs in active development and we aim to deploy it by the end of this week
GÇ£The exefile lets me manage my settings profiles and the launcher doesnGÇÖtGÇ¥ The cogwheel next to your account names in launcher login allows you to map separate settings profiles to individual (or multiple) accounts. When/if your accounts are purged from the launcher, these settings profiles are retained on your machine but will need to be remapped to the relevant account once the account has been revalidated in the launcher.
GÇ£I use ISBoxer to launch many clients and manage their window positions, especially with borderless windowsGÇ¥ / GÇ£The Mumble overlay doesnGÇÖt work in Windows 10 unless you use exefileGÇ¥ While ISBoxer and Mumble are unsupported 3rd party software from our perspective, we have reports from players that ISBoxer does also work using the launcher rather than the exefile directly. If there are concerns about 3rd party software functionality or performance with the new system we advise you to raise these concerns with the developers of the software, as is standard practice with all 3rd party software.
GÇ£Will third party launchers such as Rapid Light EVE Launcher continue to work?GÇ¥ While 3rd party launchers may continue to function, we do not support or advocate their use
GÇ£The Launcher is vulnerable to DDOS whereas exefile is more resilientGÇ¥ While the old launcher was subject to load issues and network problems, due to it being hosted in London as a dynamic ASP.NET website, the new launcher website is statically hosted on Amazon S3, with Amazon CloudFront in the front, which should offer additional protection against DDoS attacks.
GÇ£Will the old launcher continue to work?GÇ¥ The old launcher is currently unsupported and will stop working at some point in the near/medium future without any further warning.
GÇ£The launcher complains about access rights to its own installation folderGÇ¥ We believe that most cases can be fixed by running the 'Fix permissions..' in the Shared Cache Settings menu. However, we have seen at least one case where we have been unable to figure out what is wrong, but in that case the user could not create files/folders manually. So in that case, at least, there is a system level problem. Investigations continue so if this issue occurs for you, and Fix Permissions doesn't solve your problem, please file a bug report with as much detail about your system configuration as you can provide.
GÇ£The new launcher throws up certificate issuesGÇ¥ We have an open defect for various certificate issues and hope to roll out a fix soon, but many certificate issues have already been addressed.
CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
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CCP Goliath
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Posted - 2016.09.08 11:29:36 -
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Assia Eko wrote:Primary This Rifter wrote:Assia Eko wrote:Hello,
I used to login through a SSH Tunnel that is installed on my main computer at home for security reasons, and in order to log in from places with unsafes connections (airport, train station, public wifi, work..)
I was using the /server:127.0.0.1 option in the shortlink to exefile.exe.
Will it still be possible to add such option to the executable via the launcher ?
Thank you,
Assia Just run a VPN from home. A lot of computers are protected from installing a TAP interface on them (like 99% of the public computers). Although they can run Putty (or any other SSH client) and the game can still be launched from a usb stick. So, my question is still the same, will it still be possible to add parameters to exefile.exe for it to connect to localhost, for instance. Thank you, Assia
Yes you can add client arguments to the launcher to direct the client to particular servers and such. I cannot verify at this time that your personal setup will work (lack of suitable testing environment) the argument will likely be something like "--client-args=/server:127.0.0.1" placed in the Target field of your launcher shortcut.
CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
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CCP Darwin
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Posted - 2016.09.08 13:27:29 -
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Anke Eyrou wrote:CCP Can you please ensure that when I put my computer to sleep the launcher does not lose my account information.
Raka Tokila wrote:I need to relogin all my accounts every couple of days, sometimes daily. I don't use VPNs, so yes, there are still other issues. If this happens consistently, please submit a bug report as I've described here, preferably right after it happens. If you then mail me the bug report number in-game, I can call the right people's attention to it.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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CCP Darwin
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Posted - 2016.09.09 14:41:38 -
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Edd Cobon-Han wrote:removing the possiblility to start via the exefile brings a big problem for all those who used to play on their laptop with dual VGA If you have a combo like me (Nvidia GTX 860 + Intel HD 4600) you hardly NEED the exefile , otherwise you can only play with dat damn Intel HD grafucks and this is no fun With dual-GPU systems, in some instances Windows will report the integrated GPU even when the discrete GPU is actually in use. In those cases, Eve may display the wrong GPU name in the graphics options window, but you may still be using the correct GPU. I would use the frame rate viewer (ctrl-F in-game) to see if you are actually experiencing a frame rate drop when, say, unplugged vs. plugged in.
Can you use the in-game tool (press the F12 key and click Report Bug) to file a bug report that explains why the launcher doesn't work for you? This will give us a complete snapshot of your system, and we can investigate the behavior on a similar system here. Be very specific in your report what steps you're taking to select the GPU. Please feel free to mail me the bug report number once it's submitted.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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CCP Darwin
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Posted - 2016.09.09 23:20:55 -
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Muul Udonii wrote:CCP have ignored all bug reports I filed. Please do not assume this is the case.
Unfortunately, our current bug reporting system doesn't give you a lot of visibility into what's happening internally with your report, and we do not guarantee a personal response to bug reports (since, unlike support tickets, bug reports are not for requests for personal help.)
Your bug reports are quite valuable to us, and we very much appreciate that you take the time to write and submit them.
CCP Darwin GÇó Senior Technical Artist, EVE Online GÇó @mark_wilkins
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CCP Goliath
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Posted - 2016.09.13 10:02:16 -
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Zappity wrote:Why doesn't hitting Enter enter my password in the launcher?
It does for me - if the issue is reproducable submit a bug report please, with system details and if you have a special keyboard.
CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
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Posted - 2016.09.14 10:37:16 -
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enotsmirb wrote:DAMN IT!! It did it again today. (launcher decided to download the update after I was already in the client). Bug report submitted no ship loss this time. Screen shot included. As you can see in the photo I am in the client while the update is taking place. You can also see that my internet connection is maxed out. It was stuck at verifying 99% until I closed the client and launcher then re-opened it. From now on I just close the laucher after starting the game... Please add the feature to close the launcher after client starts. http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f26/enotsmirb/Launcher%202_zpstebnbjdo.png The launcher needs help... (or maybe just my launcher needs help.)
Can you give me your bug report number(s) please? Can't find anything submitted in the last 24 hours that would match up to your issue. Bug report numbers can be found at https://community.eveonline.com/support/bug-reports/my-bug-reports/
CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
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Posted - 2016.09.14 13:57:42 -
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Hi all,
To bring you an update on this. We have turned this on on Sisi now, so as of now Singularity will only be accessible via the Launcher. If you experience connectivity issues (bearing in mind that Singularity can go down with short notice for reboots and updates, so give it a couple of tries) please let us know about it.
As to some of the issues discussed in the thread and some progress updates on them:
Leaving Launcher open for a long time/Sleeping computer causing Launcher to forget accounts
Both of these issues share the same root cause from what we can see (and explain some other issues too), essentially the launcher doesn't handle losing network connectivity well. We are working on fixes here and will have those in place prior to closing the exefile entry point on TQ.
The Launcher doesn't remember my accounts/asks me for a login each time I open it
The Launcher will remember accounts and credentials if they are "pinned". You can pin accounts by logging in to them and then clicking the pin icon to the right hand side of the account panel. If the pin is blue, the account is pinned and will be remembered. The white pin means the account will not be remembered.
In the lined box at the top of the account panel, there is an option called "Automatic Login". If this option is selected, your launcher will automatically log in to pinned accounts when you start it. If it is not selected, the launcher will ask you to authenticate one of the accounts, and once you've done that the rest of your pinned accounts will be automatically authenticated. This menu also contains an option to forget all your accounts, should you wish to (e.g. playing on a shared computer). We are taking steps to make this more intuitive but these will not necessarily be in place by the time we close the exefile entry point
CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
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CCP Avalon
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Posted - 2016.09.14 17:25:38 -
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Greetings capsuleers!
Earlier today we deployed UI version 1032 to the development version of the EVE launcher, and started testing against the "forgot account" issue. We hope to complete testing soon, so we may deploy it live, but in the mean time you can try it out by switching to the developer version of the launcher.
How-to: Open the launcher preferences (E symbol on Windows) -> Settings -> Version type: [Development]
If you encounter further issues with the launcher forgetting accounts on 1032, please file a bug report with that number in the title or body!
CCP Avalon // Web Developer // Team Webster // @ccp_avalon
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CCP Goliath
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Posted - 2016.09.16 11:12:01 -
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Zenta Carson wrote:Ok well will CCP be fixing the Main Launcher, cause after a little while of logging in it kicks me from the game, I don't have this problem with the EXEFILE
Can you be more descriptive please? Do you mean you are getting socket closed errors once in game, or that the launcher fails to get you into the game?
CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
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Posted - 2016.09.19 14:02:53 -
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Henry Plantgenet wrote:THe only problem i've had with the new launcher is that the number of pilots on TQ fluctuates randomly at downtime always a positive number never 0 until downtime is almost over. But that's just something minor. We updated the Launcher today to more aggressively refresh data when TQ is offline. The Launcher normally updates this lazily, which was becoming a bit of an issue with the ever decreasing downtimes.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Posted - 2016.09.19 14:14:41 -
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Xavier Arcesium wrote:Teinyhr wrote:Seeing as the launcher is somekind of mini-browser in itself, and IIRC has been infected with malware before, I have to seriously wonder and doubt how does this enhance account security in any way?
P.S. I have not used the client login system since how many years has it been we've had the launcher, just saying, I'm not buying the "improved security" thing at all. Presuming they do it right, it's a way to prevent anything that isn't an official launcher to run exefile. That said, I hope the tradeoff is worth it. I have had a lot of trouble running the launcher myself and would hate to lose the workaround. We are not preventing anything from running exefile, on login we are checking if the user/client is presenting a token from the login server or not.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Posted - 2016.09.19 14:33:56 -
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Kenneth Feld wrote:CCP Avalon wrote:Greetings capsuleers! Earlier today we deployed UI version 1032 to the development version of the EVE launcher, and started testing against the "forgot account" issue. We hope to complete testing soon, so we may deploy it live, but in the mean time you can try it out by switching to the developer version of the launcher.
How-to: Open the launcher preferences (E symbol on Windows) -> Settings -> Version type: [Development]If you encounter further issues with the launcher forgetting accounts on 1032, please file a bug report with that number in the title or body!Edit: Please remember that you have to enable "Automatic login" for the launcher to login your pinned accounts. Edit 2: Version 1032 should now be available for all users on the release version. If you did upgrade to the development version of the launcher we recommend that you revert to the release version, as the dev version may experience rapid updates with less stability. Happened this morning - CCP Games Customer Support. Your ticket (258225) Hmm, looking back I prolly should have submitted a bug report, but i didn't look, I just clicked support on the launcher and that is where it sent me.....so, if you don't like it, maybe you should fix where it sends you :) We should send you to the bug reporting system when you want direct customer support?
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Posted - 2016.09.20 13:15:57 -
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Skia Aumer wrote:Cannot login today. Says "libmfxsw32.dll" is corrupted. Running repair.exe yields error with the following log: http://clip2net.com/s/3CooCRu(forum does not allow to post it as text) Any ideas? Neither the old Launcher nor the Repair Tool are supported anymore. Are you using the new Launcher?
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:13:32 -
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Skia Aumer wrote:CCP Explorer wrote:Neither the old Launcher nor the Repair Tool are supported anymore. Are you using the new Launcher? I dont. My desktop is running WinXP. Looks like game over for me, at least for a while. Yes, sorry, but Windows XP is no longer supported either.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:48:38 -
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Rach Lieber wrote:Is the Launcher the completely black window with a little E at the top? if i click the E and select server list and try to log in I cannot. How do I play EVE now!? Please try the instructions in https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/210035165-Launcher-window-white-black-or-transparent-
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Posted - 2016.09.20 15:59:34 -
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Estidalor wrote:There are many people out there still using win vista or xp that have no desire to upgrade their os or pc. It seems crazy to me that CCP has decided cut those people loose. That's indeed not the case that many were using these operating systems based on our metrics. Usage of Windows XP and Vista had become very minimal, the overhead of testing on those platforms had become a burden, and having to maintain compatibility with them was hindering development. We detailed this in our announcement in Feb this year: https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/changes-to-os-minimum-requirements/
Estidalor wrote:The new launcher obviously is not as popular as you think based on the 15 pages of complaints here. Please rethink your decision and give us back this oft preferred method of login. Based on our metrics, since the new Launcher was released in 2015 (beta in Oct, first release Dec) it had become the choice of the vast majority of players before we announced our plans to deprecate the old Launcher and our plans to close the legacy login method.
All the work and plans were based on metrics.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:06:31 -
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Rach Lieber wrote:Hi, again, all this did was prevent the launcher from opening at all.. not sure what to do from here? Please send us a Support Ticket: https://support.eveonline.com/
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Posted - 2016.09.20 16:07:38 -
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Rach Lieber wrote:Hi, again, all this did was prevent the launcher from opening at all.. not sure what to do from here? Make sure your desktop is set to 32 bit color - see http://www.guidingtech.com/9914/change-from-16-bit-to-32-bit-color-windows-7/ for instructions, for example.
CCP Snorlax - Software Architect - Team RnB - @CCP_Snorlax - http://ccpsnorlax.blogspot.is/
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Posted - 2016.09.22 09:27:20 -
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Spiezor wrote:T +1 and I can still log on with XP. I'm very glad CCP seem to have changed their minds, and I doubt I'm the only one. CCP's net stats may say use is minimal, but global stats say XP is still being used on more than 10% of machines globally. Personally I won't upgrade to any MS OS, I looked at Vista, horrible, win 7 is meh, and tbh I've heard nothing but complaints about 8 & 10. when the time comes I'll migrate to linux, until then I hope CCP re-evaluates their decision to get rid of XP. We haven't changed our minds, the ticket/work that will cause the old Launcher to stop working is about 4/9th done. The new Launcher doesn't support Windows XP so you won't be able to update or log in.
We are not going to re-evaluate our decision to stop Windows XP. When we decided to revamp the launcher in mid-2015 then we looked around for frameworks to write it in that would support Windows and Mac. We settled on Qt, and it doesn't support Windows XP. We looked at our metrics and based on the trend decided that time had come for Windows XP (and Windows Vista). The usage had become small, was becoming smaller and we couldn't justify using a subpar framework for our purposes nor the continued overhead of testing on XP and Vista.
I know that there are people who still use Windows XP and many more who remember it fondly (in particular SP2+). Unlike Windows Vista that nobody liked nor Windows 8. But since Windows XP there have been Windows 7, 8.1 and now 10 that have seen great adoption. Personally I really like Windows 8 because of features like Storage Spaces and the Start Button was quickly replaced by 3rd party software and then 8.1.
The time has passed for Windows XP. We should remember it, but we should stop using it.
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Drazz Caylen wrote:CCP Explorer wrote: Windows Vista - 0.6% Windows XP - 0.8% Source "Many", huh? Nowhere near. Please do yourself some service and consider backing up your claims before you make yourself look like a total fool. Mind you, these numbers seem to be from a Windows total perspective, not taking Linux and mac into account. Else these numbers would look even worse. Updated numbers:- Windows 10 - 58.4%
- Windows 8.1 - 6.7%
- Windows 8 - 1.1%
- Windows 7 - 30.2%
- Windows Vista - 0.5%
- Windows XP - 0.3%
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson | Senior Development Director | EVE Online // CCP Games | @CCP_Explorer
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