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Alea
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Posted - 2016.01.19 03:55:56 -
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I'm not sure how I feel about this, it doesn't feel like a step forward it feels more like a money grab right before the ship sinks.
I have to admit I am butthurt, I have what I have because I worked for it and I take pride in that.
Depending on how cheap or expensive this new endeavor becomes I fear this may bring in more WoW kiddies and with that even more crying about how hard the game is, will CCP then nerf all the things even more to keep the cash cow alive a little bit longer.? What ever happened to HTFU.? I guess it should now be PTFU.. (Pay the feck up).
This is honestly the best game I have ever played but it's ever so slowly falling from the top spot. |
Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.23 00:20:07 -
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MiSANTHR0PE wrote: It's because CCP doesn't read their own forums & use Reddit instead. (The idea didn't go down too bad over there)
I have never understood why that's allowable, I do own my own (small) business and if my employees used another form of communication other than what I provided to reach our clients after the first warning they would be fired, no matter how good they are/were at there job(s). I do NOT want my clients confused to where they need to go to stay informed or get accurate information, that's just bad business. |
Alea
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Posted - 2016.01.23 02:46:57 -
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Daniela Doran wrote:Wendrika Hydreiga wrote:Resubscribed recently and I'm super excited about this feature! Finally I can fix my skills and stop playing Skill Queue Online!
In hindsight, it is funny how a lot of people say they are done with EVE because of Skill Trading but I've yet to spot anyone in Doomheim on this thread.
Here's a thought! Hard the Flip Up! You silly ninnies whine about everything. I remember the moaning about removing clone grades and we got through that just fine. Yes scrubs like you can have fun paying Eve buttloads of cash while the original Eve players leave this game to play something more worthwhile.
I'm not leaving (yet) but I feel HTFU will someday be removed from Eve all together, then we will be flooded by even more WoW dropouts wanting to play the new and improved Eve on training wheels.
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.26 03:18:35 -
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Yaasmine wrote:Filip Ernaga wrote:As a new player I'll just state that I like this idea, and it will keep me in game.
This is because it will help me with all the skills I just HAVE to train, which have no impact on game itself. Things like cpu/pg 5, wu 5, awu3-4 and such do not enable me to get any different weapons/mods and really just sink time while I stagnate with same ship/fit for a few months already.
So yeah, either remove that stuff just like you removed learning skills (I would suppose people were whining about how necessary those are back then. just like they whine how sp trading will kill the game today) or let me invest my hard earned isk in SP ... thank you :)
This is not about dumbing the game down, it opens a LOT more options to players who came in only recently and would actually be in position where they can make a difference. both of us are examples of new players =) +1
What neither one of you rocket scientists realize is that we all started off as new players some time in the past, I stuck with the game since 2003 with no purchased skills so it can be done.
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.26 03:35:33 -
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Nana Skalski wrote:https://twitter.com/JadekMenaheim/status/689402088711847937
CCPlease do.
I very much like that idea.!
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.28 03:54:35 -
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I'm going to miss this game once the lazy, instant gratification kiddies get done ruining it..
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.28 04:03:56 -
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Zappity wrote:Alea wrote:I'm going to miss this game once the lazy, instant gratification kiddies get done ruining it.. I'm going to enjoy shooting them all. SP doesn't equal skill.
I hope there will be a way to tell who buys SP so I can keep them under a constant wardec, hell I'll create another corp just for that purpose alone, thanks for the idea.
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.28 04:16:53 -
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Zappity wrote:Alea wrote:Zappity wrote:Alea wrote:I'm going to miss this game once the lazy, instant gratification kiddies get done ruining it.. I'm going to enjoy shooting them all. SP doesn't equal skill. I hope there will be a way to tell who buys SP so I can keep them under a constant wardec, hell I'll create another corp just for that purpose alone, thanks for the idea. I'm ambivalent about whether there should be a public account of purchased SP. I wouldn't mind personally. But I do like that it introduces more intel uncertainty. Perfect intel is bad IMHO.
I agree that would make it too easy, but having the ability to hide purchased SP would be even more of a game breaker in my opinion, buyers of SP should have to wear a scarlet letter of some sort.
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.30 06:18:19 -
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The cost aside, I believe if someone artificially enhances there character via SP injection(s) that should be reflected in that characters info, if not it's close to game breaking in my opinion.
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.30 21:21:09 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:sero Hita wrote:HeXxploiT wrote:Another thing I just realized.
The race is on. Which Trillionair will be the first to have all skills in eve trained to Lvl5. Until now it wasn't even possible. It has not been possible on one character. But it is naive to think that these trillionaires does not have access to all skills divided between alts now. Especially with the character bazar and all. People assume it is an advantage to have everything on one char but it is not really imo, as you cannot do all activities at once in this case. If you multibox more chars it is more powerfull. So I would rather expect to see more alts when SP trading arrives Just wait until we reach a tipping point in terms of perfect alts online. Then we'll start getting moe and more calls to get rid of skills all together...'for the newbies' of course...
Eve has a built in equalizer that is all skills top out at level 5, if I excelled at pvp (which I do not) and have the skills that I already have, I would not fear going head to head with a max SP character in a fair fight because I know he/she would be on par with me in the skill set that we would be using at that particular time.
But with that said I'm extremely opposed to SP trading though, I believe it will give an unfair advantage over players who don't have the resources to artificially enhance there character compaired to one who has more expendable RL money, that relates more to newer players than someone who has been playing for many years.
If this would go live Monday and the information I understand to be accurate is implemented I could theoretically have a 100 mill SP newb toon by downtime, that takes in account the SP I have on unsubbed accounts and liquid ISK I would be willing to part with, in my eyes that's pay to win as how can a similar newb compete with that if they don't have the RL resources to do so.
The kick in the nuts would be that all that injected SP could very well be hidden from everybody that don't have access to the full API of that newb toon.
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.01.31 00:01:22 -
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Memphis Baas wrote:Alea wrote:[...]in my eyes that's pay to win[...]
The kick in the nuts would be that all that injected SP could very well be hidden from everybody that don't have access to the full API of that character. And, in my opinion it's not pay to win because: - You inject the SP and then ??? You haven't won anything yet. You've paid, but you have 0 kills, 0 wins. - You go out there in a ship that you can now fly with your millions SP, and ??? you won't get attacked by newbies, you'll get attacked by veterans in equivalent (or better) ships that can kill you, so you'll lose the fight. Nobody in this game attacks a stronger ship; they will blob you, call all their friends and kill your shiny ship, just to get a couple more points on their killboard. You still won't win. You'll buy a bunch of skillpoints, fly up to a titan or battleship or whatever shiny, get killed repeatedly, grow disillusioned, and regret your SP purchases. Maybe throw some more money at it, to extract the points and re-inject in another ship; take that out and lose it repeatedly, then quit the game. As far as the kick in the nuts, imagine yourself in your example: You're a newbie. You buy SP. You inject it. You delete all API's so nobody can see nothing. Do you... - Get in a big ship that you can now afford to fly? As soon as you undock, they'll see a titan in the overview and go WHOA that newbie can't possibly fly a titan!!! They must have injected points... Ding ding ding... your injected SP has just been revealed, is no longer hidden. - Stay in the newbie frigate so that nobody knows you can fly titans... Well in that case nobody will know, and also all those SP you purchased will sit UNUSED in your head, much like money that sits unused in your wallet. It's not in the economy, does nothing. Nobody quakes in fear that OMG Alea has 50 trillion in her wallet and could just RUIN the economy... until you use it, it doesn't exist. Nobody will care that you have enough SP to fly a titan if you're flying newbie ships. As soon as you stop flying newbie ships... see the first option above. API isn't even needed.
Titans can't dock and if you want to join a reputable corp that belongs to a reputable alliance a full API will need to be given or you will not get in, and even then you still may not get in.
My main gripe with SP trading as I understand it is that people with a greater expendable income can buy SP then will be able to out perform others who can not, given that both payers start off with similar amounts of SP, how is that no pay to win.? It's pay to out advance players with no extra income at the very least.
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.01 01:44:12 -
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Vile Swan wrote:I would like to repeat my question will there be a limit to how many skill injectors you can use at one time?
Will probably only be limited by how much money you want to throw at it, as it seems CCP needs the money, that's the only logical reason way this would be implemented.
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.01 04:47:51 -
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Aquiileia wrote:Please launch this soon so I can actually merge my characters and do what I actually wanna do in the game! Thanks!
I personally would not want all the SP from all my characters dumped into just one, it would make me less efficient, I would make less ISK and I would only be able to fly one ship at a time, that would make Eve very boring for me.
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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Alea
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.02.05 20:40:45 -
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Lasisha Mishi wrote:https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtf1/t31.0-8/12657328_10153933304054394_6217410085722889067_o.jpg
<3 sooner i can use the sentries on my Stratios the better, 10 day waiting time at the moment. Plus i've got an old character who could use a reshuffle for SP.
Only ten more days wait..?? WTF..?? I have trained many skills that took over a month, why is it so hard to just wait like everybody else did before you..??
Instant gratification kiddies will be the reasoning behind this games demise, that and CCPs greed to fund other projects before Eve finally dies a horribly embarrassing death.
The huge influx of RL money CCP is going to be making off of this embarrassment is going to be monumental, I can't see a reason why they would not make the tiny step towards full pay to win withing the next few years since buying skills will obviously be a huge financial success, most likely right before this game goes completely WoW kiddie friendly will be my guess.
Was fun while it lasted though, was by far the best MMO ever.
Fellow Eve players please take note: In case you haven't yet noticed HTFU is going to be replaced with P(ay)TFU, that is all..
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