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Tamiya Sarossa
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.14 03:45:00 -
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My local lowsec POCO's are all owned by small corps, they haven't had any trouble so far. It's not that hard to do if you know what you're doing and put your mind to it. |
Hoohnzy
Vintage heavy industries
1
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Posted - 2011.12.22 16:28:00 -
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Terrorfrodo wrote:Never seriously tried PI myself, but most of my corpmates earned almost a PLEX every month with very little effort and virtually no risk by doing PI. I assume that was unsustainable for CCP, so they had to take it away.
They should take bot-miners or bot-ratters away at first then. |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
387
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Posted - 2011.12.22 17:05:00 -
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Hoohnzy wrote:Terrorfrodo wrote:Never seriously tried PI myself, but most of my corpmates earned almost a PLEX every month with very little effort and virtually no risk by doing PI. I assume that was unsustainable for CCP, so they had to take it away. They should take bot-miners or bot-ratters away at first then.
The horse is dead already, leave it alone.
This is my signature.-á There are many others like it, but this one is mine. |
Phoehnix
United Highsec Front The 99 Percent
18
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Posted - 2011.12.22 21:58:00 -
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keep blowing the pocos up without putting up your own, see how long til they get tired :P |
Jack Traynor
One More Corp
24
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Posted - 2011.12.22 22:01:00 -
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lab geek011 wrote:I love eve but its always the same the 2 man corp stands no chance against the big ones, As you prob notice the customs offices are being taken over and its always the big corps that are having them
sure there may be the odd 1 or 2 smaller corps that have a couple but in my system alone there is one corp with numbers over 90+ and they have taken over all the customs offices, when speaking it was told plain and simple, if you put on up you will lose it.
there is no way to compete against it, i know i will be flamed for this but dont care, there should be a cap limit on the amount a corp can have as with most things in eve there are limits what you can do, that way
- it gives everyone chance to own some - the big corps will challenge the high income areas - they cannot then just put as many as possible up - makes it fair
as a exampe the corp that has taken over my system has also taken over my friends which is over 12 jumps away and i would assume there are alot more system they have taken over. The income they will get is massive so its in there interest to get as many as possible
yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore
Good troll (because you can't possibly be serious)... 2/10 |
Cloora
APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate
46
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Posted - 2011.12.22 22:23:00 -
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mkint wrote:BLACK-STAR wrote:I skim read some posts page to page, and read the OP. There is no *impossible* way to solve it.
Working as intended.
On serious note, look if you have a problem with another corp with a orbital station your solution is wardec and destroy.. I guess you got sh-t on by a far superior established players that are capable of self defense, holding anything they`re able (as intended).
Here, you could explore new planets and systems, venture beyond the red-line into WH space, or relocate.
gl with your resource problem that happens to be your (or corp) own fault. If you can`t beat them, consider joining them or join the aggressing side via diplomatic connections.
Abandon your quest for PI if you`re that pitifully weak. CCP initially made PI with the intent that anyone would be able to access it, every single rookie. That was the promise. They did that in lieu of it being a big ticket activity. Now CCP is taking it away from the masses and putting it in the hands of a few. Why? (same reason bad businesses ever betray their customers... money.)
You can access it. It is called high sec. Stop throwing hissy fits because you don't want to put up your own POCO. Come to my neck of low sec, the tax on neutrals is 10% same as high sec. CEO and Major ShareholderAPEX ConglomerateMaker of Starsi softdrinks and Torped-Os! Cereal http://www.altaholics.blogspot.com
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J Kunjeh
108
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Posted - 2011.12.22 22:55:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Sorry OP and everyone thinking like the OP. You want a Customs Office, your gonna have to take the risk of it getting shot by those stronger than you and taking it from you. Just like anyone else that puts these up.
If you want to limit the number of Customs Offices someone holds, then you need to start shooting them or get someone to shoot them for you. Many other people have previously said these same things.
It never ceases to amaze me how much RL seeps into Eve. People all over the planet want someone to take care of something for them too, just like in Eve. God forbid they actually, you know, work for it themselves.
It is possible to solo Eve and be successfull. It requires more than warping to zero and pressing F1-F8. Use your brain, learn game mechanics, if one thing your try doesnt work you try something else.
Why is it someone elses fault you cant do something? Just freaking do it.
God, some people just don't understand the meaning of game balance. (capitalism is good, hyper-capitalism is not) "The world as we know it came about through an anomaly (anomou)" (The Gospel of Philip, 1-5)-á |
Cloora
APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate
46
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Posted - 2011.12.22 23:07:00 -
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J Kunjeh wrote:Olleybear wrote:Sorry OP and everyone thinking like the OP. You want a Customs Office, your gonna have to take the risk of it getting shot by those stronger than you and taking it from you. Just like anyone else that puts these up.
If you want to limit the number of Customs Offices someone holds, then you need to start shooting them or get someone to shoot them for you. Many other people have previously said these same things.
It never ceases to amaze me how much RL seeps into Eve. People all over the planet want someone to take care of something for them too, just like in Eve. God forbid they actually, you know, work for it themselves.
It is possible to solo Eve and be successfull. It requires more than warping to zero and pressing F1-F8. Use your brain, learn game mechanics, if one thing your try doesnt work you try something else.
Why is it someone elses fault you cant do something? Just freaking do it. God, some people just don't understand the meaning of game balance. (capitalism is good, hyper-capitalism is not)
There is no such thing as hyper-capitalism. There is only pure capitalism and what percentage of pure capitalism is implemented. EVE is about pure capitalism don't bring your RL Marxism into this. CEO and Major ShareholderAPEX ConglomerateMaker of Starsi softdrinks and Torped-Os! Cereal http://www.altaholics.blogspot.com
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1075
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Posted - 2011.12.22 23:49:00 -
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Jojo Jackson wrote:2 man is realy a bit low. But on the other hand .... 6000 in one ally is simply to much. If you take all the blues, you get even 15000 which doesn't let much air for other.
So we have 15000 on the left side, 15000 on the right side, some x000 in the north who play EVE with real money investments (buy capital for $) and a bunch of whatever in the south. Well look at you not knowing what you're talking about. So cute! The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Munio J Makeanen
United Starbase Systems
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 16:09:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Jojo Jackson wrote:2 man is realy a bit low. But on the other hand .... 6000 in one ally is simply to much. If you take all the blues, you get even 15000 which doesn't let much air for other.
So we have 15000 on the left side, 15000 on the right side, some x000 in the north who play EVE with real money investments (buy capital for $) and a bunch of whatever in the south. Well look at you not knowing what you're talking about. So cute!
Well bit simplified but you have to give him the point that this is pretty much it :D Names change the location change but this is how the null sec is looking like for LOOOOONG time.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
341
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Posted - 2011.12.23 19:36:00 -
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Here's an idea:
Kill them.
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Comrade Commizzar
Eve Revolutionary Army
41
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Posted - 2011.12.23 20:53:00 -
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Feligast wrote:lab geek011 wrote:yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore So you know what you need to do to compete, you just refuse to do it... therefore we should feel sorry for you and change the rules to punish those more successful than you. Gotcha.
Why not? This is what millions of Americans seem to want to vote for these days as proved by the fact that Obama is president.
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Podcorn
Republic Military School
0
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Posted - 2011.12.23 21:00:00 -
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Comrade Commizzar wrote:Feligast wrote:lab geek011 wrote:yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore So you know what you need to do to compete, you just refuse to do it... therefore we should feel sorry for you and change the rules to punish those more successful than you. Gotcha. Why not? This is what millions of Americans seem to want to vote for these days as proved by the fact that Obama is president.
Yes, people are so jealous and irrational these days.
Liberal Hipster: Waahhh that guy is rich, I'm going to go live in the park outside of his office and poop all over the place. Waaahhh. Then I'll vote for Obama because he's going to give me allLll his money. Waaahh.
Podcorn: What the hell? You are jealous and irrational. Why do you care about money so much anyway . Also, pooping outside is gross, wipe your butt. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
341
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Posted - 2011.12.23 23:42:00 -
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Comrade Commizzar wrote:Feligast wrote:lab geek011 wrote:yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore So you know what you need to do to compete, you just refuse to do it... therefore we should feel sorry for you and change the rules to punish those more successful than you. Gotcha. Why not? This is what millions of Americans seem to want to vote for these days as proved by the fact that Obama is president.
Don't get me started.
One side: use other people's money to make me richer! Other side: send other people's kids to pointless wars so I can feel safer. Bankers, fat cats, etc: Har har! Suckers! |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1081
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Posted - 2011.12.23 23:44:00 -
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Comrade Commizzar wrote:Feligast wrote:lab geek011 wrote:yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore So you know what you need to do to compete, you just refuse to do it... therefore we should feel sorry for you and change the rules to punish those more successful than you. Gotcha. Why not? This is what millions of Americans seem to want to vote for these days as proved by the fact that Obama is president. Wow so not only do you not understand how Eve works but don't understand how US politics works. Thanks for letting us know.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Jita Alt666
669
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Posted - 2011.12.24 00:03:00 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:Don't put up your own, just shoot all of theirs down.
Form an alliance of high seccers (the ones who pay the high tax) and then roam low sec destroying pocos until the supply withers up.
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Reverand Pastor
Dynasty Ink.
26
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Posted - 2011.12.24 00:07:00 -
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Comrade Commizzar wrote:Feligast wrote:lab geek011 wrote:yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore So you know what you need to do to compete, you just refuse to do it... therefore we should feel sorry for you and change the rules to punish those more successful than you. Gotcha. You see EVE is like politics... I have no idea how to do either right
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Ris Dnalor
Fleet of Doom Ushra'Khan
103
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Posted - 2011.12.24 00:12:00 -
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I think the real problem is not that bigger corps can trump smaller corps ( working as reality ).
I think the problem is that for quite some time people doing PI did not have to contend with this. They trained their characters and invested their isk and game-time into a profession. Now with a single stroke of the keyboard ( so to speak ) the rug has been yanked out from under them.
This is an all too common pattern in eve.
Releasing things half-thought-through, and then fixing them later seems to be par for the course.
Don't get me wrong, props to CCP for fixing it, I think it's better this way.
But I think people have a right to be upset, and shouldn't be belittled for railing against the change, because something they enjoyed doing in the past is now taken away, or perhaps I should say " now has been moved beyond their reach"
The old adage 'adapt or die' does apply, but I can remember countless times when something I had trained for was nerfed, and it was often upsetting.
I am better off these days, because after years of training, I'm cross-trained enough that it's pretty easy to move on to the next big shiny thing with little training, but I still remember the days when a setback like this could mean months of training to become good at the new thing.
So the complainants have my sympathies, as I certainly feel their pain. But such is eve, and you're better off learning now ( rather than later ) that this is the way things go, and if something seems easy to do on your own, you should enjoying / reap the profits from it while you can, but don't count on it sticking around.
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