What is needed is a way for big fleets to be beaten by much smaller fleets, there are plenty of examples the devs can use in history where a smaller force has beaten a large one due to terrain, technology etc.

What I think would be a good idea at least temporarily would be to make bombs and smartbombs far easier to produce. Maybe CCP introduced some kind of explosive ore that can be mined in high sec space? That would also mean you could move Ice to 0.0 without too much bother because 0.0 would be under attack a lot then.

i totally agree with the op. for example its not fair that ccp took the t2 monopolies away. now everyone and their mother can produce t2 cap rechargers and damage controls. there are now armies of people producing t2 items. thats just not fair. but nooo ccp with its tunnel vision thought it would be best for eve. how often do "we" have to say it again and again: competition is bad for a competitive pvp driven mmo. but they just don't care! it really is OUTRAGEOUS!

Or you can keep on blowing stuff up untill they give in to your demands. Grow a spine or forever find yourself in high sec bitter posting about how unfair it is that others do better than you.

The Alliance that took over the PCO's in the low system I have worked in since PI was released includes the Merc Group N0IR. There is a difference between growing a spine and not wanting to get ass raped.

Bad example. CCP has stated that it was a mistake to ever have Tech II BPO's in the first place.



Concord doesn't charge 17% only 10%, same as the Alliances taking over the Low Customs offices so there is no reason to go in low.



The Alliance that took over the PCO's in the low system I have worked in since PI was released includes the Merc Group N0IR. There is a difference between growing a spine and not wanting to get ass raped.

No, we need a hard cap. It's the only thing that makes sense, or they'll outblob us with POCOs!

Please. Think of the children.

Risk-free activities like the old PI, incursions and missions should pay very very poorly so people who want to make ISK in earnest always have to expose themselves to possible pvp. Everyone, everywhere, at any time.

A corp I have a spy in is 12 characters strong.

They have just negotiated some standings with an alliance in Syndicate to use their POCO's and are paying 5% tax. If they can do this, why can't you do this?

If you made a limit on the number a corp can hold, you have several problems.
- it would be too high a number to be meaningful to most corps : it would be a nerf to "working together" and "creating a community"
- it could be circumvented with alt corps, alliances. Who is more likely to have the resources to do this, the big guys,or the small guys?

In short, 2 guys will never "outgun" 2500. Either make friends, take risks, or pay CONCORD 17%

Risk vs reward is probably best balanced in PI than anything else right now.

Edit: my corp of less than 20 has put up POCO's and we're paying 2% corp tax. Pretty damn sweet, really ^_^

I haven't bothered to read more than a couple post, but anyways. If some corp owns all the whatever, just kill all thier whatevers. sounds like that big corp has more to lose than you. for the right isk i'll kill all thier whatevers for you.

I love eve but its always the same the 2 man corp stands no chance against the big ones, As you prob notice the customs offices are being taken over and its always the big corps that are having them

sure there may be the odd 1 or 2 smaller corps that have a couple but in my system alone there is one corp with numbers over 90+ and they have taken over all the customs offices, when speaking it was told plain and simple, if you put on up you will lose it.

there is no way to compete against it, i know i will be flamed for this but dont care, there should be a cap limit on the amount a corp can have as with most things in eve there are limits what you can do, that way

- it gives everyone chance to own some
- the big corps will challenge the high income areas
- they cannot then just put as many as possible up
- makes it fair

as a exampe the corp that has taken over my system has also taken over my friends which is over 12 jumps away and i would assume there are alot more system they have taken over. The income they will get is massive so its in there interest to get as many as possible

yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore

Concord doesn't charge 17% only 10%, same as the Alliances taking over the Low Customs offices so there is no reason to go in low.

Please read all of the post before commenting, there are game mechanics in place that make it a little more complicated than that.

I love eve but its always the same the 2 man corp stands no chance against the big ones, As you prob notice the customs offices are being taken over and its always the big corps that are having them

yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore

What annoyed me is that CCP lied to us as they stated in a post that the customs offices would be "decommissioned and removed", they never said they would need to be destoryed so hence my annoyance when i purchased 6 to put up (not being greedy)

Quote from a post they did

"Customs Offices in all Low Sec, 0.0 and Wormhole systems will be decommissioned and removed. Customs Offices in High Sec will remain under the authority of CONCORD who will, in turn, charge doubled import and export taxes. Customs Offices are now targetable and destructible."

then when i went to put them up i only got to find out they were not removed but had to be destroyed, i have petitioned it but still awaiting a reply as ive lost alot of isk by buying them

Guess what they have not replied back

yes people will say join bigger corps or have more people but some of us dont want that its like a corner shop owner vs a large megastore

i totally agree with the op. for example its not fair that ccp took the t2 monopolies away. now everyone and their mother can produce t2 cap rechargers and damage controls. there are now armies of people producing t2 items. thats just not fair. but nooo ccp with its tunnel vision thought it would be best for eve. how often do "we" have to say it again and again: competition is bad for a competitive pvp driven mmo. but they just don't care! it really is OUTRAGEOUS!

In order:
Actually, it was the perfect example... for precisely the reason you state.
Comprehension... work on it..

Yes, he put Concord instead of InterBus. The point still stands. You were offered the same tax rate as high sec with larger low sec volume available equals more money than you would make in high sec. And have you approached them for standings and a better rate yet? Or looked at any other area's for a better deal?
Logic... work on it.

There is a lot more to the game play in EVE, including the industrial activites, than simply click = make money... as you are finding out.

You know, people have tried to help you out in this thread but you consistently(sp)refuse it.
Taken all together this makes you precisely one of 5 things:

1: Mentally incompetent.
2: Monumentally lazy.
3: Motivated purely by blind greed.
4: Trolling.
5: All of the above.

So I have been it this system since PI was deployed and now that the Alliance has moved in I now should move?

My point is and as Tippia has stated, please tell us why anybody doing PI in High security should move to Low for the same tax rate and have to deal with the gate camps, pirates and asshats?

No, you are saying that you have to move. Everyone else is saying that there is no reason to do so.
Please don't include me in your incoherent ramblings. I have stated the exact opposite: since they're providing the exact same tax rate, the situation is exactly the same as before the patch, and as it happens, before the patch, lowsec was very good for PI. The trouble from the supposed camps, pirates and asshats was and still is next to zero (and if anything, this change allows you to deal with them even less than before). If you did it back then, you can do it now. If you didn't do it then, then you have nothing to complain about anyway, so shush.

I love eve but its always the same the 2 man corp stands no chance

My point is and as Tippia has stated, please tell us why anybody doing PI in High security should move to Low for the same tax rate and have to deal with the gate camps, pirates and asshats?

Please don't include me in your incoherent ramblings. I have stated the exact opposite: since they're providing the exact same tax rate, the situation is exactly the same as before the patch, and as it happens, before the patch, lowsec was very good for PI. The trouble from the supposed camps, pirates and asshats was and still is next to zero (and if anything, this change allows you to deal with them even less than before). If you did it back then, you can do it now. If you didn't do it then, then you have nothing to complain about anyway, so shush.

Then what was the reason for changing the PI mechanic? The obvious Idea was to raise the taxes significantly in High security and to force people into low and to put their own PCOGGVs in order to get a tax break. But since the vast majority of the High Sec PI users are unwilling and unable to set up their own operations and move to low the only option is hoping that the Low alliances would have a competitive tax rate, this is not happening , as expected.

Then what was the reason for changing the PI mechanic?

Except, of course, that by your own admission that is exactly what IS happening.

By the way, having the same tax rate as CONCORD is having a competitive tax rate: it means people in the area have no immediate reason to move back to highsec.