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Stevo Kamiondzija
EVE Christian Ministries
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Posted - 2015.04.24 11:41:47 -
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50 mil ISK per hour. Dont waste your time mining. Do this first week or two untill you get your skills for whatever you want to do in EVE.
Video guide how to make ISK by def. plexing without any combat skills:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64BkTiROyOY |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20957
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:05:47 -
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This is bad advise.
It completely degrades the playing experience for new players. It's not better than mining at all.
All people do is sit in plexes and run as soon as there is a danger coming in, with pretty much no effort put into making money at all.
A new players game should be about fun and not about making ISK with no effort whatsoever.
Next does it inflate the price of PLEX.
And then there's the fact that more and more people subbing with PLEX from the market ... ... will eventually lead to less PLEX, because people will stop putting them into the system.
This is greedy and selfish. CCP needs money coming from new players as well and needs new players to actually play the game, experience it and be social. And throw money at them.
This advise is bad on so many levels!
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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Stevo Kamiondzija
EVE Christian Ministries
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:25:24 -
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Solecist Project wrote:This is bad advise.
It completely degrades the playing experience for new players. It's not better than mining at all.
All people do is sit in plexes and run as soon as there is a danger coming in, with pretty much no effort put into making money at all.
A new players game should be about fun and not about making ISK with no effort whatsoever.
Next does it inflate the price of PLEX.
And then there's the fact that more and more people subbing with PLEX from the market ... ... will eventually lead to less PLEX, because people will stop putting them into the system.
This is greedy and selfish. CCP needs money coming from new players as well and needs new players to actually play the game, experience it and be social. And throw money at them.
This advise is bad on so many levels!
To be honest, the only thing selfish here is your reply. You answered only from perspective on how this would impact YOU and YOUR gameplay.
If this is so boring please do tell me something more fun to do as a trial that would get someone a PLEX at the end of the month? Mining will take you few weeks to train just to be able to net 10 mil per hour... Other than lvl 1 missions and few hours of epic arc, there is nothing meaningful new player can do first few weeks other than sit aroun and wait for skills to finish. Not to mention the most fun thing new players can do - exploring, is not available to trials due to restrictions
And what if someone, like me, lives in country where banks dont offer debit cards that can be used on internet? If you are student/underage and you got no steady income so you can get credit card, you can't buy PLEX
This thread is about least painful way someone who has a Trial and have no means of upgrading it for real life money can do so. I am very very sorry that it affects you. Doh. |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:32:06 -
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I'll correct your weird perception here a bit.
It is not selfish from me to consider the negative impact on FW. Something you don't care about.
It is not selfish from me to consider the negative impact on the PLEX market. Something you don't care about.
It is not selfish from me to consider the negative impact on CCPs wallet. Something you don't care about.
It's not selfish from me to consider the absolutely boring experience this creates and how it promotes greed above anything else.
Now please explain me how your "advise" does the game any good.
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20958
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:34:33 -
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And to pick apart one of your "points" ...
When you can not afford something ... ... then you shouldn't have it and have worse worries to think about.
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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Stevo Kamiondzija
EVE Christian Ministries
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:37:03 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Now please explain me how your "advise" does the game any good.
It is not meant to do game any good. It is targeted on people looking for a way of financing their first PLEX by playing by giving them THE LEAST BORING way of doing so
So to a guy asking "I cant buy PLEX on my own is there any way i can make it in game on my first trial month?" can you answer anything better than this? Other than your "NO YOU SHOULD NOT IT IS BAD FOR ME IF YOU DO SO" |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:43:23 -
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Christian ... yeah, how fitting.
And now I would like you to point out how I am selfish, when I care about the game ... while you don't and just care about yourself.
It makes no sense to call me what you are ... ... and it makes even less sense to get angry at me for calling out bad advise.
So please explain me how I am selfish when I listed up the reasons why it's bad. Someone who can not afford a sub obviously has other priorities, don't you agree?
You even admit that you don't care about the game.
How does that not make YOU selfish?
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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Mister Peele
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:43:32 -
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This is great way of earning plex even for people into their first or second month. You can't match ISK per hour doing anything else on a char with less than 2 mil SP |
Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:44:00 -
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warp core stabs should be banned from plexes for this very reason, it ruins fw space and annoys people who actively defend systems via pvp, it does give a bad impression of the game and makes it look damn boring
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Stevo Kamiondzija
EVE Christian Ministries
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:44:31 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Christian ... yeah, how fitting.
And now I would like you to point out how I am selfish, when I care about the game ... while you don't and just care about yourself.
It makes no sense to call me what you are ... ... and it makes even less sense to get angry at me for calling out bad advise.
So please explain me how I am selfish when I listed up the reasons why it's bad. Someone who can not afford a sub obviously has other priorities, don't you agree?
You even admit that you don't care about the game.
How does that not make YOU selfish?
read my last post again. |
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Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:52:55 -
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Lan Wang wrote:warp core stabs should be banned from plexes for this very reason, it ruins fw space and annoys people who actively defend systems via pvp, it does give a bad impression of the game and makes it look damn boring Glad we agree on some things regareing the game.
Anyhow, summing it up the OP completely ignores how his bad advise negatively impacts the game on many levels ...
... only cares about him being able to play the game ...
... but calls me selfish.
Not really Christian-like, but typical. My siblings will happily take care of you. :)
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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Stevo Kamiondzija
EVE Christian Ministries
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:54:36 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Lan Wang wrote:warp core stabs should be banned from plexes for this very reason, it ruins fw space and annoys people who actively defend systems via pvp, it does give a bad impression of the game and makes it look damn boring Glad we agree on some things regareing the game. Anyhow, summing it up the OP completely ignores how his bad advise negatively impacts the game on many levels ... ... only cares about him being able to play the game ... ... but calls me selfish. Not really Christian-like, but typical.
Stevo Kamiondzija wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Now please explain me how your "advise" does the game any good. It is not meant to do game any good. It is targeted on people looking for a way of financing their first PLEX by playing by giving them THE LEAST BORING way of doing so So to a guy asking "I cant buy PLEX on my own is there any way i can make it in game on my first trial month?" can you answer anything better than this? Other than your "NO YOU SHOULD NOT IT IS BAD FOR ME IF YOU DO SO"
And you keep dodging my questions. Do you have any better solution? |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
20964
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:56:48 -
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The solution is to set the priorities straight.
If you can not afford to pay for the game with money ... ... then you should first take care of your life.
There are many ways to pay for EVE ONLINE and a CC is just one of them. CCP accepts bank transfers as well as PayPal and PaySafe cards.
Also please consider yourself a target now, according to ingame rules.
Thanks and bye. :)
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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Mister Peele
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2015.04.24 12:58:33 -
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Solecist Project wrote:The solution is to set the priorities straight.
If you can not afford to pay for the game with money ... ... then you should first take care of your life.
There are many ways to pay for EVE ONLINE and a CC is just one of them. CCP accepts bank transfers as well as PayPal and PaySafe cards.
Also please consider yourself a target now, according to ingame rules.
Thanks and bye. :)
Have to agree with OP. SO DAMN SELFISH
/popcorn |
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:28:01 -
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Lan Wang wrote:warp core stabs should be banned from plexes for this very reason, it ruins fw space and annoys people who actively defend systems via pvp, it does give a bad impression of the game and makes it look damn boring I have absolutely no problem with stabs, I kill those parasites regularly ... however there is a limit how much I'm willing to pay for this "fun". So the better change would be to eliminate aggression sec hits inside plexes.
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
355
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:37:44 -
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Stevo Kamiondzija wrote: If this is so boring please do tell me something more fun to do as a trial that would get someone a PLEX at the end of the month? .
This whole approach is just stupid. If you want to play eve and have fun with it you have to pay for it. If you are expirienced (character and player wise) enough one day to earn enough isk to plex your accounts without to much hazzle then do it.
But putting the idea into the head of new players to endlessly and boringly grind for god knows how many hours just to not have to pay those ~15 buckz is the worst you can do to them. Because they will be bored and miss out all the fun they could have had instead.
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Stevo Kamiondzija
EVE Christian Ministries
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Posted - 2015.04.24 13:42:00 -
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Ka'Narlist wrote:Stevo Kamiondzija wrote: If this is so boring please do tell me something more fun to do as a trial that would get someone a PLEX at the end of the month? .
This whole approach is just stupid. If you want to play eve and have fun with it you have to pay for it. If you are expirienced (character and player wise) enough one day to earn enough isk to plex your accounts without to much hazzle then do it. But putting the idea into the head of new players to endlessly and boringly grind for god knows how many hours just to not have to pay those ~15 buckz is the worst you can do to them. Because they will be bored and miss out all the fun they could have had instead.
And again - what else can new trial account do in his first week?
Stevo Kamiondzija wrote: Mining will take you few weeks to train just to be able to net 10 mil per hour... Other than lvl 1 missions and few hours of epic arc, there is nothing meaningful new player can do first few weeks other than sit aroun and wait for skills to finish. Not to mention the most fun thing new players can do - exploring, is not available to trials due to restrictions
Also, it is hour or two a day for a week, not something you do 24/7 for a month to work... |
Elhana Melahadrin
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:02:21 -
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Stevo Kamiondzija wrote:It is not meant to do game any good. It is targeted on people looking for a way of financing their first PLEX by *working in game* by giving them THE LEAST BORING way of doing so
Fixed that for you...
I can understand that some people don't have the money to pay for the game, but telling them to turn it in a work is not a good idea. |
Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:03:24 -
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Stevo Kamiondzija wrote: And again - what else can new trial account do in his first week?
The tutorial, the profession agents, the sisters of eve epic arc, searching himself a decent corp...having fun |
Syrilian
Ascending Angels
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:04:08 -
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Oh hey look its the daily "FW is broken" post. |
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Lan Wang
Stillwater Corporation That Escalated Quickly.
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:10:45 -
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Syrilian wrote:Oh hey look its the daily "FW is broken" post.
wut?
EVEALON Creative - Logo Design & Branding | Digital Design
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William Ruben
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:11:29 -
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Just sub your account and stop worrying about plexing with a 2 million SP character |
Cara Forelli
Green Skull LLC
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:13:54 -
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You forgot to mention that this will make you more hated than CODE, the old Moa, and Azda's "hair". Always a great idea as a new player to anger all the people that would be most likely to help you learn the game.
Plus it's a great way to get bored and quit the game before you even finish the trial.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
9444
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:40:09 -
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Solecist Project wrote: Also please consider yourself a target now, according to ingame rules.
Thanks and bye. :)
remember what you were asking about in your other thread sol
Lords.Of.Midnight now recruiting
Steamy hot small gang action is waiting for you.
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Azda Ja
Green Skull LLC
3599
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:40:39 -
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Cara Forelli wrote:You forgot to mention that this will make you more hated than ... and Azda's "hair". I'm the prettiest space princess.
"I only lose ships when I fly with Azda." - Barry Cuttlefish
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Minmatar Citizen 534612187
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:41:32 -
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Edit: ****. |
Stevo Kamiondzija
EVE Christian Ministries
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:45:20 -
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Why so salty everyone? I though EVE is "game where you can do whatever u feel like, be a good guy or a**hole" If a guy can make a vid explaining how to earn plex as trial AWOX-ing and ransoming, why can't I do the same with def. FW plexing? |
Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:48:30 -
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Well let's see who will be the salty one...
Yeah Ralph, I linked him there. Throws my weekend planning off for a day but that's fine.
Already got 400 Million ISK donated... ^_^
Jokarz > you got owned?
Chris Justice > just a bit
Chris Justice > They were pulsing smart bombs at the point we all warped in. insta death.
Lev Arturis > pervs got 59 killmails
PERVS doing lowsec DD
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Stevo Kamiondzija
EVE Christian Ministries
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:51:46 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Well let's see who will be the salty one...
Yeah Ralph, I linked him there. Throws my weekend planning off for a day but that's fine.
Already got 400 Million ISK donated... ^_^
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Noragen Neirfallas
Somalian Coast Guard Authority The Marmite Collective
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Posted - 2015.04.24 14:53:35 -
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Hello OP. I can see this was a heartfelt and charitable outreach to the new converts of this game and I applaud your attempts to help these individuals. Now while I'm firmly against grinding for 16hours a month to interact with this game I realize others are not as blessed as us and can not afford to pay their tithe to CCP in a monetary form. I believe with all my soul if your charitable corp is engaging in this ministry to assist new converts with this daunting task that you will need all the blessings and miracles possible bestowed upon you to assist this holy cause. I was so touched by this movement you have formed I wanted to offer my assistance in the form of content for your flock and as such if it is ok with eve socialist, I will start a month long content drive fully supported by my alliance who will be as touched as me I'm sure.
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