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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6620
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:19:20 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Sibyyl wrote: Put OGBs in killmails. We'll be able to correlate OGB alts with their mains and make smarter decisions about probing down the OGB and killing them before engaging the main.
Let the players solve this problem instead of changing the mechanic.
Put logistics in there aswell and you got a deal! We might as well with "full disclosure"mails.
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
630
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:23:56 -
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Val'Dore wrote:OGB is akin to docbuffs in SWG were... they were required for participation.
This is how things ended up in Asheron's Call also. All players started using a full set of clothing buffs, resistance buffs, and attribute buffs. So the devs developed all the new PvE content balanced with that in mind. So if you wanted to do PvE, you needed to have all buffs, and you had to rebuff every 30 minutes. And if you wanted to do PvP you needed them as well or you stood no chance. Net effect = giant PITA and lots of down time. No fun at all.
EVE is nowhere near as bad as this of course. But you can already see some areas of PvE where boosts have become pretty much mandatory due to the min-maxing of the players - hisec incursions for example.
People keep mentioning combat probes. What am I supposed to do in hisec? Against say... a player who has an OGB alt and steals my loot in an exploration site? I can't probe their OGB and kill it in hisec. Must I have an OGB alt too then? Or do I need to start running sites with 2x DPS characters to overpower them before they can make full use of their OGB? EVE already has its running joke of "30k accounts online = 15k actual players online". We don't need more alts.
Then there is the actual gameplay of the boosting character. A Command Ship fit for fighting on grid while running one link may be fun. But players love to min-max, so boosting ships usually end up good at boosting and nothing else. This makes them only acceptable as alts.
So... how about a compromise? Only one link allowed on a boosting ship, your sig radius blows up like a MWD when you're running it, and you can't use boosts in hisec.
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Gully Alex Foyle
Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop
3735
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:26:05 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Lloyd Roses wrote:Sibyyl wrote: Put OGBs in killmails. We'll be able to correlate OGB alts with their mains and make smarter decisions about probing down the OGB and killing them before engaging the main.
Let the players solve this problem instead of changing the mechanic.
Put logistics in there aswell and you got a deal! We might as well with "full disclosure"mails. I want wife aggro shown on killmails. Would have top Battleclinic rank, along with alcohol.
Make space glamorous!
Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
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Unezka Turigahl
Det Som Engang Var
630
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:37:13 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote: your sig radius blows up like a MWD when you're running it
Hmm... I wonder... what if every active link gives you +100 to your signature radius? This would make you easier to scan down the more links you have running. Would this alone be enough to force OGB alts into becoming on-grid mains? Choosing to run only 1 or 2 links along with a rack of guns/missiles?
But yeah, still need to be banned from hisec. |
Felicity Love
Imperium Galactic Navy
2216
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:44:48 -
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Budda Kuha wrote:I recently bought this toon and returned to EVE after a break due to rl obligations and I was shocked to see that ogb was not only still around but that it has spread like a desease and infested most of lowsec and nullsec even.
Stay tuned on this and other topics, AKA: copious volumes of fecal matter about to impact the rotary atmospheric agitator at a Fanfest near you.
"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.-á-á ( Pick four, any four. They all smell. -á)
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34738
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Posted - 2015.03.12 22:55:00 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote:Hmm... I wonder... what if every active link gives you +100 to your signature radius? This would make you easier to scan down the more links you have running. Would this alone be enough to force OGB alts into becoming on-grid mains? Choosing to run only 1 or 2 links along with a rack of guns/missiles? No, it wouldn't be enough on it's own.
In lowsec a lot of people already sit their links alts on stations and gates. They usually don't have a lot of tank (if T3), but if you shoot them you draw sentry gun fire.
Increasing their sig radius will just put more of them on gates and stations.
That can be easily dealt with by aligning, shooting, warping off and then back again. If they are still there, kill them. But if the player is alert, they'll just move the ship anyway.
But it does nothing for highsec and only makes a difference in nullsec.
Combat probes are good in nullsec, less useful in lowsec because the links ships are relatively easy to find and only useful in highsec if you are willing to suicide gank and the links ship is not on a station (which it most probably is).
We usually send an alt in a rookie ship to shoot the links ship (lowsec roams). When engaged in a fight, the links pilot often doesn't even notice it's just a rookie ship and instantly docks or jumps. Sometimes half their fleet warps to try to protect the links, separating their ships. Doesn't always work, but it works enough to be useful for us.
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Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
444
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:07:54 -
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or we can actually make links an active module >> no auto repeat and very very short cycle
no need ti rewrite massive code etc etc just change the attribute of links
and put booster on Km too :)
CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and Put Them on Killmail too, add Logi on killmails
.... Open that damn door !!
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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
1948
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Posted - 2015.03.13 01:34:27 -
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Unezka Turigahl wrote: Hmm... I wonder... what if every active link gives you +100 to your signature radius? This would make you easier to scan down the more links you have running. Would this alone be enough to force OGB alts into becoming on-grid mains? Choosing to run only 1 or 2 links along with a rack of guns/missiles?
But yeah, still need to be banned from hisec.
As mentioned earlier in the thread, congratulations, you have now killed on grid links. Because you have just bloated on grid link sigs making them vastly easier to kill and lock.
Also there is no reason to ban links from High Sec. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to use links in high sec, just the situation of the neutral OGB needs addressing is all.
Lastly making them not auto cycle is not engaging gameplay. Try doing an hour of gameplay with your guns auto cycle turned off and see how enjoyable it is. |
kraken11 jensen
The Gallant Collective Requiem Eternal
77
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Posted - 2015.03.13 09:10:55 -
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Implants=boost Links=boost Drugs=boost More sp combat wise = boost (an advantage) . Just an part off eve, eve is not fair. ''solo pvp'' ehm, don't expect it to be. lol,
Btw, did you guys check FT cold 's kill board? he got some really nice kills there :) Just look
https://zkillboard.com/character/743107009/
(quite a lot off link kills in an relatively short amount off time)
Also, it don't make you bad using the things that can give you an advantage, I suppose you embrace (aspects) ? the tools / items /things that can help you. |
tiberiusric
Comply Or Die Retribution.
198
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Posted - 2015.03.13 11:23:56 -
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you know another terrible mechanic - drag bubbles... just saying.. |
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Scira Crimson
No Tax No
0
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Posted - 2015.03.13 14:12:30 -
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Quote:Why do I need links? I don't particularly. It's a game mechanic that is available, so I choose to use it. There is nothing wrong in doing so and it's nothing about boosting my stats.
Thats bad logic. Unfortunatly you see a lot of this on many game forums
You can not justify a bad game mechanic because its in the game (if a player abuses a broken game mechanics, its the developers fault)
Ogb definitly needs to go, this is 100% obvious. Only people who take advantage of it are against it. lol
Imo Eve online encourages multiaccounting too much. I might probably be a minority with this opinion and I also use an alt(on same account) but for me its fundamentally wrong to encourage multiaccounting in an MMO. Because its contradictionary.
A MMO should(!) be meant to played by DIFFERENT people and not by 1 with 20 accounts. I mean, WTF is this?!? How can you even think thats good in any case?
I dont ask for hunting down multiboxers with fire and sword, but it should be at least be discouraged to do so. And OGB is exactly the opposite.
Yes, its probably economical reasonable to allow and even encourage multiaccounts but in the long run it will turn out bad. What if one dayit turns out that only 10000 of online 40000 people are real player? You have to understand, that a low "effective playerbase" also means less promotion. One heavy multiboxer might bring in a decent amount of Gé¼ but if he quits (and he will one day) the number of "player" will decrease significantly.
Therefore:
1 person = 1 account = 1 character = maximum game integrety
Ofc it will be a constant struggle to enforce this and the game will not "break" if there are some people multiboxing, ofg, alting etc, but it should be a GOAL(!) to get rid of such things.
And as I read that CCP is just unable to get rid of ogb I am actually fine with the situation. (I would be really mad if they say its ok and good game design)
If something does not work as it should its no problem as long as a game company does not follow obnoxious design policies. |
Dun'Gal
Myriad Contractors Inc.
207
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Posted - 2015.03.13 14:22:35 -
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Brutus Utama wrote: so by removing off grid boosts you also want every miner to have an orca on grid with him? because that would be ridiculous...
Are the belts over crowded or something? I fail to see what's ridiculous for a ship (the orca) which is designed to not only boost fleets but haul the ore they mine/the ships to mine said ore with, be on grid with there mining fleet. That sounds like precisely where it was designed to/should be?
As to off grid warfare links, they are a plague that deserves to be removed entirely - however until such time as this happens people need to stop whining about them and just deal with it. They exist, they are annoying, but it's not the end of the world.
@ All the OGB users out there who continue to argue that they use/need them because others use/need them, therefore they are needed/shouldn't be removed, etc. It is completely asinine to believe that is even remotely a relevant reason to keep them in game, and the frequency of that argument makes my head hurt.
The vast majority of the OGB users I run into are not only terrible, and lose a hell of a lot more fights than they really should, but will rarely take fights even when they have the obvious advantage (not just referring to the links, but numerical as well.) Meanwhile the rest (the minority,) of OGB users, have sufficient knowledge, and player skill that they don't need the OGB's but are so used to them, that it has become a crutch they can't do without.
I've heard some very talented players (whom I met before they had there very own shiny OGB's) that would at one point jump at a "good fight" without the OGB's, cringe at the thought of taking the same fight it without there OGB's. Or, in the absence of, would now simply upship to the point where the people they are trying to get a "good fight" from just look at them and wisely bugger off. I've come to think of it as reverse blue balling. It sounds painful, and I can't think of any reason to do this to yourself other than exactly what people keep saying about link users, they have indeed become the risk averse scrubs they so loathe.
A final PS - please, don't try and blah blah about the risk involved when fighting vastly outnumbered therefore you need links, most of you are flying kiting doctrines in these cases and frankly the risk is basically zero unless you do something stupid, like stop moving. |
Budda Kuha
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
32
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Posted - 2015.03.13 15:56:36 -
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Dun'Gal wrote:Brutus Utama wrote: so by removing off grid boosts you also want every miner to have an orca on grid with him? because that would be ridiculous...
Are the belts over crowded or something? I fail to see what's ridiculous for a ship (the orca) which is designed to not only boost fleets but haul the ore they mine/the ships to mine said ore with, be on grid with there mining fleet. That sounds like precisely where it was designed to/should be? As to off grid warfare links, they are a plague that deserves to be removed entirely - however until such time as this happens people need to stop whining about them and just deal with it. They exist, they are annoying, but it's not the end of the world. @ All the OGB users out there who continue to argue that they use/need them because others use/need them, therefore they are needed/shouldn't be removed, etc. It is completely asinine to believe that is even remotely a relevant reason to keep them in game, and the frequency of that argument makes my head hurt. The vast majority of the OGB users I run into are not only terrible, and lose a hell of a lot more fights than they really should, but will rarely take fights even when they have the obvious advantage (not just referring to the links, but numerical as well.) Meanwhile the rest (the minority,) of OGB users, have sufficient knowledge, and player skill that they don't need the OGB's but are so used to them, that it has become a crutch they can't do without. I've heard some very talented players (whom I met before they had there very own shiny OGB's) that would at one point jump at a "good fight" without the OGB's, cringe at the thought of taking the same fight it without there OGB's. Or, in the absence of, would now simply upship to the point where the people they are trying to get a "good fight" from just look at them and wisely bugger off. I've come to think of it as reverse blue balling. It sounds painful, and I can't think of any reason to do this to yourself other than exactly what people keep saying about link users, they have indeed become the risk averse scrubs they so loathe. A final PS - please, don't try and blah blah about the risk involved when fighting vastly outnumbered therefore you need links, most of you are flying kiting doctrines in these cases and frankly the risk is basically zero unless you do something stupid, like stop moving.
That's the truth right there. I didn't want to make a big thing out of it but some players i used to fly with seem to have developed from roaming risk takers to stationary claymore leetnes. When you have been away for a while and see how links have changed the pvp pandscape it's sad really.
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Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
125
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:08:00 -
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Whoever compares OGB to boosters forgot two things. First, boosters have a chance of drawbacks and can affect your travel in empire space. Second, boosters don't rely on how many EVE clients you can run at once.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
34761
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:14:01 -
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Budda Kuha wrote:Dun'Gal wrote:As to off grid warfare links, they ... deserves to be removed entirely - however until such time as this happens people need to stop whining about them and just deal with it. That's the truth right there. Finally. Halajulah.
/thread
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Kamahl Daikun
Back To Basics.
46
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Posted - 2015.03.13 20:19:21 -
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The only problem I see with OGB is that it's silently enforcing a standard.
I played another game that did something similar - buffslaves. If you wanted to farm efficiently, you needed buffslaves. You didn't need to party with a buffing class because you had buffslaves. If you wanted to solo, buffslaves. They became mandatory for nearly every activity of the game and it became a huge problem for various reason.
Eventually, the devs made the decision to disallow multi-clienting and buffslaves became a luxury of having more than 1 PC in the house but it didn't solve the problem.
OGB obviously doesn't prevent certain hulls from joining fleets but it is enforcing a standard. |
Hal Morsh
Aliastra Gallente Federation
271
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Posted - 2015.03.13 22:39:27 -
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Kamahl Daikun wrote:The only problem I see with OGB is that it's silently enforcing a standard.
I played another game that did something similar - buffslaves. If you wanted to farm efficiently, you needed buffslaves. You didn't need to party with a buffing class because you had buffslaves. If you wanted to solo, buffslaves. They became mandatory for nearly every activity of the game and it became a huge problem for various reason.
Eventually, the devs made the decision to disallow multi-clienting and buffslaves became a luxury of having more than 1 PC in the house but it didn't solve the problem.
OGB obviously doesn't prevent certain hulls from joining fleets but it is enforcing a standard.
People usualy used their wifes characters for this in a game I played lol. Healers had whips and were purple. The class I played however was a combat class with unique buffs. It was cool because it gave you say 40 chances for damage to be guarded against every hit instead of a countdown timer.
Problem with this is in a king of the hill type mode healers were with the parties, buffing healing and sometimes AOEing and freezing enemies. me? I was expected to stay at base and give every character of every party the buffs they requested as they ran by (defence and offence were restricted to one of each type active at a time, 2 in total) Meaning I either did as told or I didn't get a party and didn't get any points except for what I killed, and believe me when they have +9 armor and pay to win +10 rare weapons while I have just +6 stuff with few stats added..... The party is almost the only way I get points. To make matters worse those points were linked to rank ups that gave you a permanent stat boost forever.
It's a game called dekaron that used to be ran by akklaim games (Yea those N64 guys) but now Nexon owns it, botting was no longer a problem but with pay to win and korea being many updates ahead I just left. I also don't like Nexons game "maplestory", the art style is just creepy to me.
CCP - Outpost code is scary.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6648
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Posted - 2015.03.13 23:12:02 -
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Kamahl Daikun wrote:Eventually, the devs made the decision to disallow multi-clienting and buffslaves became a luxury of having more than 1 PC in the house but it didn't solve the problem. Ahaaaa.
Coming back to the multi-clienting part of this might be interesting discussion...
^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers.
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Nicolai Serkanner
Jebediah Kerman's Junkyard and Spaceship Parts Co. Brave Collective
294
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Posted - 2015.03.13 23:49:05 -
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Budda Kuha wrote:I recently bought this toon and returned to EVE after a break due to rl obligations and I was shocked to see that ogb was not only still around but that it has spread like a desease and infested most of lowsec and nullsec even. Before anyone calls me a whiner let me say this: I have much love for EVE as a game and even though i don't have much time to play it I will probably keep my accounts subbed until tranquility shuts down.I'm not a "pro" and I don't care for kb stats but i do care for good fights which way too often simply get ruined by off grid boosted undercover super ships! Wasn't this supposed to be dealt with a long time ago!? Why do you even bother balancing hulls if you're allowing a condor being turned into a garmur from off grid without any notable risk?!
The arguments for getting rid of this terrible mechanic are well known so I won't enumerate them again but seriously: CCP, get your stuff together! You guys know what a turn off ogb is for half of the pvp community, you know how it caters to a dumped down, tedious, slow and risk-averse playsyle that is literally poison to pvp as a whole! If the dogma rewrite still takes time give us something in the meantime! This bullshit mechanic has been around for way too long and not everybody is enough of an eve fanboy to endure your disregard in that respect.CCP, do something!
Obligatory, learn how to play the game.
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Kiandoshia
Applied Anarchy SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2233
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Posted - 2015.03.14 00:37:25 -
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Budda Kuha wrote:Mr Epeen wrote:Both fleets in an engagement can use OGB. I find it difficult to see the 'risk free advantage' here. Mr Epeen You're missing the point. Not everybody is willing or able to run a booster.
There is problem.
Become willing and able.
Problem is no more.
Eve 101 :D
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Aston Martin DB5
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
57
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Posted - 2015.03.14 02:44:13 -
[201] - Quote
Having the bonuses rock but I will say this: I would love for their roll to be on the battlefield (pve or pvp) even if it means they must target the ships for the bonuses with max range 100km.
Be creative and make new high slot modules? Make them similar to logi pilots or link up with them on the battlefield similar to how cap transfer work with Amarr logi? Who knows... but I don't like afk boosting - just the buffs haha |
kraken11 jensen
The Gallant Collective Requiem Eternal
79
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Posted - 2015.03.14 06:00:44 -
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Aston Martin DB5 wrote:Having the bonuses rock but I will say this: I would love for their roll to be on the battlefield (pve or pvp) even if it means they must target the ships for the bonuses with max range 100km. Be creative and make new high slot modules? Make them similar to logi pilots or link up with them on the battlefield similar to how cap transfer work with Amarr logi? Who knows... but I don't like afk boosting - just the buffs haha
Afk boosting= Scan down = Kill Booster = Hah. So, why you don't like it? :P |
Rroff
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
950
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Posted - 2015.03.14 12:35:22 -
[203] - Quote
TBH most people who use links as a gross generalisation try to use every tool available to get themselves an edge and the people complaining want the same results without having to go to half the efforts and if/when OGBs go will move straight onto whining about whatever else gives those players an edge. |
Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
322
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Posted - 2015.03.15 14:06:50 -
[204] - Quote
Can't believe this thread is still going!
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good.
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Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
9095
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Posted - 2015.03.15 23:07:55 -
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Budda Kuha wrote:I recently bought this toon and returned to EVE after a break due to rl obligations and I was shocked to see that ogb was not only still around but that it has spread like a desease and infested most of lowsec and nullsec even. Before anyone calls me a whiner let me say this: I have much love for EVE as a game and even though i don't have much time to play it I will probably keep my accounts subbed until tranquility shuts down.I'm not a "pro" and I don't care for kb stats but i do care for good fights which way too often simply get ruined by off grid boosted undercover super ships! Wasn't this supposed to be dealt with a long time ago!? Why do you even bother balancing hulls if you're allowing a condor being turned into a garmur from off grid without any notable risk?!
The arguments for getting rid of this terrible mechanic are well known so I won't enumerate them again but seriously: CCP, get your stuff together! You guys know what a turn off ogb is for half of the pvp community, you know how it caters to a dumped down, tedious, slow and risk-averse playsyle that is literally poison to pvp as a whole! If the dogma rewrite still takes time give us something in the meantime! This bullshit mechanic has been around for way too long and not everybody is enough of an eve fanboy to endure your disregard in that respect.CCP, do something!
Shut up and unsub again seriously... stop whining about things and get on with it. OGB is a thing and SHOULD remain a thing, it's the ONLY thing that allows soloers/small gangs to fight outnumbered and have fun anymore. |
Mithandra
Catastrophic Operations Nulli Secunda
238
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Posted - 2015.03.16 12:09:26 -
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Personally I think OGB should be removed.
I have no fancy arguments, no witty comments, no disparaging remarks, and no anecdotal evidence to back up my position.
Am I concerned about it remaining in game? Not really.
Would I like to see it gone? Yup.
Will I whine on the forums if it remains? Nope.
Eve is the dark haired, totally hot emo gothchild of the gaming community
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Budda Kuha
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2015.03.16 12:27:58 -
[207] - Quote
Buhhdust Princess wrote:Budda Kuha wrote:I recently bought this toon and returned to EVE after a break due to rl obligations and I was shocked to see that ogb was not only still around but that it has spread like a desease and infested most of lowsec and nullsec even. Before anyone calls me a whiner let me say this: I have much love for EVE as a game and even though i don't have much time to play it I will probably keep my accounts subbed until tranquility shuts down.I'm not a "pro" and I don't care for kb stats but i do care for good fights which way too often simply get ruined by off grid boosted undercover super ships! Wasn't this supposed to be dealt with a long time ago!? Why do you even bother balancing hulls if you're allowing a condor being turned into a garmur from off grid without any notable risk?!
The arguments for getting rid of this terrible mechanic are well known so I won't enumerate them again but seriously: CCP, get your stuff together! You guys know what a turn off ogb is for half of the pvp community, you know how it caters to a dumped down, tedious, slow and risk-averse playsyle that is literally poison to pvp as a whole! If the dogma rewrite still takes time give us something in the meantime! This bullshit mechanic has been around for way too long and not everybody is enough of an eve fanboy to endure your disregard in that respect.CCP, do something! Shut up and unsub again seriously... stop whining about things and get on with it. OGB is a thing and SHOULD remain a thing, it's the ONLY thing that allows soloers/small gangs to fight outnumbered and have fun anymore.
Read the Thread, will you? I specifically explained why boosts DON'T favor "soloers" and small gangs. They cater to larger stationary groups. Also: If you can't engage gangs without links you're just terrible at EVE. What really makes viable solo pvp tactics (kiting!) neigh impossible is when the enemy has skirmish links. You should also change your tone unless you like sounding like an egomaniac little brat. |
knobber Jobbler
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
535
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Posted - 2015.03.16 12:50:20 -
[208] - Quote
Buhhdust Princess wrote:Budda Kuha wrote:I recently bought this toon and returned to EVE after a break due to rl obligations and I was shocked to see that ogb was not only still around but that it has spread like a desease and infested most of lowsec and nullsec even. Before anyone calls me a whiner let me say this: I have much love for EVE as a game and even though i don't have much time to play it I will probably keep my accounts subbed until tranquility shuts down.I'm not a "pro" and I don't care for kb stats but i do care for good fights which way too often simply get ruined by off grid boosted undercover super ships! Wasn't this supposed to be dealt with a long time ago!? Why do you even bother balancing hulls if you're allowing a condor being turned into a garmur from off grid without any notable risk?!
The arguments for getting rid of this terrible mechanic are well known so I won't enumerate them again but seriously: CCP, get your stuff together! You guys know what a turn off ogb is for half of the pvp community, you know how it caters to a dumped down, tedious, slow and risk-averse playsyle that is literally poison to pvp as a whole! If the dogma rewrite still takes time give us something in the meantime! This bullshit mechanic has been around for way too long and not everybody is enough of an eve fanboy to endure your disregard in that respect.CCP, do something! Shut up and unsub again seriously... stop whining about things and get on with it. OGB is a thing and SHOULD remain a thing, it's the ONLY thing that allows soloers/small gangs to fight outnumbered and have fun anymore.
Both sides in a fight can bring them though, so your point is void. |
Budda Kuha
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2015.03.16 13:03:02 -
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knobber Jobbler wrote:Buhhdust Princess wrote:Budda Kuha wrote:I recently bought this toon and returned to EVE after a break due to rl obligations and I was shocked to see that ogb was not only still around but that it has spread like a desease and infested most of lowsec and nullsec even. Before anyone calls me a whiner let me say this: I have much love for EVE as a game and even though i don't have much time to play it I will probably keep my accounts subbed until tranquility shuts down.I'm not a "pro" and I don't care for kb stats but i do care for good fights which way too often simply get ruined by off grid boosted undercover super ships! Wasn't this supposed to be dealt with a long time ago!? Why do you even bother balancing hulls if you're allowing a condor being turned into a garmur from off grid without any notable risk?!
The arguments for getting rid of this terrible mechanic are well known so I won't enumerate them again but seriously: CCP, get your stuff together! You guys know what a turn off ogb is for half of the pvp community, you know how it caters to a dumped down, tedious, slow and risk-averse playsyle that is literally poison to pvp as a whole! If the dogma rewrite still takes time give us something in the meantime! This bullshit mechanic has been around for way too long and not everybody is enough of an eve fanboy to endure your disregard in that respect.CCP, do something! Shut up and unsub again seriously... stop whining about things and get on with it. OGB is a thing and SHOULD remain a thing, it's the ONLY thing that allows soloers/small gangs to fight outnumbered and have fun anymore. Both sides in a fight can bring them though, so your point is void.
exactly and on top of that: Larger and more stationary grups will be more likely to have links and to have better links! Tbh the whole "links allow us to engage larger gangs"-argument says something about the person making it. Specifically that he or she is not capable of understanding a game mechanic and its impact beyond the limited scope of their personal experience.
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Gonna be honest this is right up there with AFK cloaking in the "Things I don't care about" department.
If nothing else due to the afk nature of boosters it's quite fun to have someone with max probing/virtues out during a big fleet fight hunting them down and killing them.
Just make it so the boosts can't be run within a pos. All major problems fixed. |
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