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lilol' me
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Posted - 2015.03.08 09:38:33 -
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So since taking over the main job as senior producer and her initial interviews we heard hardly anything since from her and CCP Fozzie seems to be running the show Albeit badly. what happend? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.03.08 09:45:00 -
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She doesn't design every mechanic in the game. She provides overall leadership and direction.
In many respects it's good that she lets the individuals responsible for design, take the lead in announcing and discussing their plans. She can't possibly know the specific details of everything going on with the graphics, audio, mechanics, backend, etc.
It's great that the designers and devs themselves are allowed to be, and are, engaged so much with the community.
She'll be pretty visible at Fanfest though if previous years are anything to go by.
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lilol' me
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Posted - 2015.03.08 09:55:04 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:She doesn't design every mechanic in the game. She provides overall leadership and direction.
In many respects it's good that she lets the individuals responsible for design, take the lead in announcing and discussing their plans. She can't possibly know the specific details of everything going on with the graphics, audio, mechanics, backend, etc.
It's great that the designers and devs themselves are allowed to be, and are, engaged so much with the community.
She'll be pretty visible at Fanfest though if previous years are anything to go by.
I remember every other senior producer being a whole lot more visible...i'm not complaining about the others by the way. But to have heard pretty much nothing after the incoming speech is surprising and disappointing
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2015.03.08 09:56:12 -
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Most likely interviewing for a job at Riot |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2015.03.08 10:01:27 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Most likely interviewing for a job at Riot
OK, I ROTF & LMAO. +1 to you sir!
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Scipio Artelius
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Posted - 2015.03.08 10:08:53 -
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lilol' me wrote:I remember every other senior producer being a whole lot more visible...i'm not complaining about the others by the way. But to have heard pretty much nothing after the incoming speech is surprising and disappointing
She's writes a devblog before every release.
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Nate Hill
Rocket No. 9
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Posted - 2015.03.08 10:10:39 -
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Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
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Posted - 2015.03.08 14:45:27 -
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Nate Hill wrote:Flying above sea. At least, this is where I'd look.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2015.03.08 16:43:27 -
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She's doing what I'd be doing in her place.
Focusing on her job instead of getting caught up in the whine-fest that is the EVE-O forum. What good ever comes from trying to pander to the massively entitled vocal minority that haunts this place? Nothing, I tell you. Nothing at all.
It's not her job to constantly waste her time with you people. It's the job of the CMs.
Good for her, I say.
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:13:25 -
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Is there some reason she'd be talking to us instead of the people more directly involved with the changes?
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ImYourMom
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:20:31 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:She's doing what I'd be doing in her place. Focusing on her job instead of getting caught up in the whine-fest that is the EVE-O forum. What good ever comes from trying to pander to the massively entitled vocal minority that haunts this place? Nothing, I tell you. Nothing at all. It's not her job to constantly waste her time with you people. It's the job of the CMs. Good for her, I say. Mr Epeen
I don't agree with your comments. I think the exact opposite. Sorry I agree with the OP. Yes she shouldn't be wasting time a whinefests but the op isn't saying that. I think as senior producer we should be hearing more from her on what the plans are for eve. I does seem CCP fozzie is doing most of the decision making.
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lilol' me
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:31:57 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:She's doing what I'd be doing in her place. Focusing on her job instead of getting caught up in the whine-fest that is the EVE-O forum. What good ever comes from trying to pander to the massively entitled vocal minority that haunts this place? Nothing, I tell you. Nothing at all. It's not her job to constantly waste her time with you people. It's the job of the CMs. Good for her, I say. Mr Epeen
I think you need to relax sir. It was perfectly reasonable question. The fact is CCP seagull has seemed to have just disappeared after the fan fair and promising to be more involved. that's not been the case. Nothing to do with pandering to people so no idea how that popped into your head. I see CCP Fozzie being the face of eve for many of the latest expansions and future changes and where eve is going I would of expected to see CCP Seagull doing this. I think I am making a fair point and observation. No malice intended either so a straightforward question |
lilol' me
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Posted - 2015.03.08 17:48:36 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:lilol' me wrote:I remember every other senior producer being a whole lot more visible...i'm not complaining about the others by the way. But to have heard pretty much nothing after the incoming speech is surprising and disappointing
She's writes a devblog before every release. Not sure that's true. The last post she made according to the forums was 10 months ago about Kronos!! |
Nikodiemus
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.08 18:52:16 -
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This is actually a good question... |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.08 19:19:29 -
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CCP Seagull has built up a lot of goodwill with the player base over the last year ... perhaps now would be a good time for her to spend a bit of it by reassuring the playerbase.
Lead from the front, and all that.
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Milla Goodpussy
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2015.03.08 19:25:08 -
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she's too busy writing a "save thy behind" speech for this years fanfest..
does she even know forums here exist?
one must ask these questions.
for a ego-light leadership, she sure is allowing ego-centric minds to really let loose on the game design..
anyone have a total number of tears fozzie has farmed yet?? |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2015.03.08 19:57:54 -
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lilol' me wrote:Not sure that's true. The last post she made according to the forums was 10 months ago about Kronos!! Of course it's true.
Go and look at the devblogs. You can see for yourself.
You don't even need to open them all as the author is listed.
But just in case:
Coming to Eve in Tiamat Coming to Eve in Proteus and update on sov progress Coming to Eve in Rhea Coming to Eve in Phoebe Coming in Oceanus Coming in Hyperion
If you look at the devblogs going back several pages, you'll see Fozzie is far from the person directing things. There are a range of devs working on specific projects and the only person that covers them all in her blogs is Seagull.
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lilol' me
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Posted - 2015.03.08 20:35:04 -
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seagull didn't write those lol she just put her name to it. |
Scipio Artelius
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Posted - 2015.03.08 20:50:04 -
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lilol' me wrote:seagull didn't write those lol she just put her name to it. That's kind of a stupid assertion to make.
Evidence for that?
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Bel Tika
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Posted - 2015.03.08 21:02:06 -
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Didnt Seagull not long have a new born? |
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Ned Thomas
Signal Cartel EvE-Scout Enclave
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Posted - 2015.03.09 01:06:38 -
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lilol' me wrote:seagull didn't write those lol she just put her name to it.
As opposed to the dev blog about sov changes which was 100% written by Fozzie?
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Sean Parisi
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Posted - 2015.03.09 01:21:48 -
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I don't see any issue with CCP Seagull at the moment. To be honest I think you are looking at the current development cycle and thinking "Jeeze nothing gets done, where are all the massive features" - Failing to realize that we would of not have had any of these releases except maybe one.
The current development system will have a lot of MASSIVE and Lackluster / Small changes. Meaning that patch to patch we will have consistent content but no "Major feature being sold". Any mistakes made now will get corrected soon, as the development cycle allows for that.
We could also be playing World of Warcraft, I heard they had a new "Selfie Feature". |
DaReaper
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Posted - 2015.03.09 06:32:03 -
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lilol' me wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:She doesn't design every mechanic in the game. She provides overall leadership and direction.
In many respects it's good that she lets the individuals responsible for design, take the lead in announcing and discussing their plans. She can't possibly know the specific details of everything going on with the graphics, audio, mechanics, backend, etc.
It's great that the designers and devs themselves are allowed to be, and are, engaged so much with the community.
She'll be pretty visible at Fanfest though if previous years are anything to go by. I remember every other senior producer being a whole lot more visible...i'm not complaining about the others by the way. But to have heard pretty much nothing after the incoming speech is surprising and disappointing
what are you talking about? she gave the keynote at eve vegas, had a AMA on reddit, was on the 07 show, has done multiple interviews all over..
I would rather her do her job of leading and guiding the ship then having to micromanage everyone
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Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.09 06:36:33 -
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Please stop pestering the devs.
and never no cure from
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Amyclas Amatin
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Posted - 2015.03.09 07:30:54 -
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lilol' me wrote:So since taking over the main job as senior producer and her initial interviews we heard hardly anything since from her and CCP Fozzie seems to be running the show Albeit badly. what happend?
I too demand that her movements be tracked and accounted for. Are we not entitled to this at least?
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2015.03.09 07:54:13 -
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Bel Tika wrote:Didnt Seagull not long have a new born?
That too, but it's a secondary question.
Personally I think that CCP Seagull communicates enough through events and the "coming with..." devblogs. I'm not exaclty fond of the direction she's takign the game, but that would be another question... And in many ways I think that she's doing what most people would do in her position; it's wrong to do, but the reasons are right, and they predate her appointment as EP.
CCP Unifex was the right person to kick the ball forward and take EVE out of the post-Incarna pit.
CCP Seagull is the right person to keep developing the game in the direction dictated by the existing customer base.
It's not her fault that EVE has come to a stop in terms of new customers and preaching to the choir has become the only sensible -albeit deadly- way to develop it.
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Asura Vajrarupa
Sanguis Inceptum
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Posted - 2015.03.09 08:57:11 -
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Stealth sov whine.
Ignorance is the cause of suffering.
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Posted - 2015.03.09 09:13:02 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Most likely interviewing for a job at Riot
lmao |
lilol' me
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Posted - 2015.03.09 09:24:16 -
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Amyclas Amatin wrote:lilol' me wrote:So since taking over the main job as senior producer and her initial interviews we heard hardly anything since from her and CCP Fozzie seems to be running the show Albeit badly. what happend? I too demand that her movements be tracked and accounted for. Are we not entitled to this at least?
I think your reading too much into the question like a few of you typical eve weirdos do. Not everyone goes to bloody eve Vegas or even nerdy enough to want to! |
SilentAsTheGrave
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2015.03.09 09:25:39 -
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Asura Vajrarupa wrote:Stealth sov whine. That's exactly what this is. That jab at CCP Fozzie is just silly. |
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