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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2016.04.20 22:09:08 -
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Do you have any suggestions?
I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.
||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
17696
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Posted - 2016.04.24 00:10:17 -
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Already made it in this very thread.
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his ISK/hr depends upon his not understanding it!"
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Aelavaine
University of Caille Gallente Federation
82
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Posted - 2016.04.24 20:01:48 -
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Malcanis wrote:I'd suggest reframing the proposal into something a little more attractive to a business with shareholders to account to. Okay, let me try: Shareholders like increasing login numbers and f2p shooters. I count the upcoming dailies, Dust514, Project Legion and Project Nova as validation for this point.
The solution is Project WiS. - A f2p shooter within the Eve-client. - Current Eve-Avatars can be used in Project WiS and vice versa - SoE Combat Suits can be used in Project WiS - Combat Suits from Project WiS can be used in Eve - The Project WiS Lobby is also accessible for Eve avatars - Interaction between Eve and Project WiS Players in Project WiS or Eve. Competitions between capsuleers and ex dusters for example. - Since Project WiS is part of Eve, their login numbers add to the Eve numbers - Undocking and diving in into the world of New Eden is just one mouse click away (getting more people to try Eve) - With more time you'll find more points, but this should be enough to get the idea behind it
This simply is a variation of earlier suggestions of splitting and thus lower development costs between two games. Something that shareholders also should like.
I for myself don't really like Project WiS, but if a pact with the devil shareholders is needed to get WiS done, then so shall it be.
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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2016.04.25 19:07:04 -
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Aelavaine wrote:Malcanis wrote:I'd suggest reframing the proposal into something a little more attractive to a business with shareholders to account to. Okay, let me try: Shareholders like increasing login numbers and f2p shooters. I count the upcoming dailies, Dust514, Project Legion and Project Nova as validation for this point. The solution is Project WiS. - A f2p shooter within the Eve-client. - Current Eve-Avatars can be used in Project WiS and vice versa - SoE Combat Suits can be used in Project WiS - Combat Suits from Project WiS can be used in Eve - The Project WiS Lobby is also accessible for Eve avatars - Interaction between Eve and Project WiS Players in Project WiS or Eve. Competitions between capsuleers and ex dusters for example. - Since Project WiS is part of Eve, their login numbers add to the Eve numbers - Undocking and diving in into the world of New Eden is just one mouse click away (getting more people to try Eve) - With more time you'll find more points, but this should be enough to get the idea behind it This simply is a variation of earlier suggestions of splitting and thus lower development costs between two games. Something that shareholders also should like. I for myself don't really like Project WiS, but if a pact with the devil shareholders is needed to get WiS done, then so shall it be.
Now this is what I was going for. Not just a suggestion but a basic model of how to put it all together instead of racking my brain for a while. I do like the touch of basically having the login to Project: WiS being the point of entry into either EVE or Nova. Basically choose your door type of thing.
I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.
||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
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helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
453
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Posted - 2016.04.26 05:16:26 -
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Jack Carrigan wrote:Aelavaine wrote:Malcanis wrote:I'd suggest reframing the proposal into something a little more attractive to a business with shareholders to account to. Okay, let me try: Shareholders like increasing login numbers and f2p shooters. I count the upcoming dailies, Dust514, Project Legion and Project Nova as validation for this point. The solution is Project WiS. - A f2p shooter within the Eve-client. - Current Eve-Avatars can be used in Project WiS and vice versa - SoE Combat Suits can be used in Project WiS - Combat Suits from Project WiS can be used in Eve - The Project WiS Lobby is also accessible for Eve avatars - Interaction between Eve and Project WiS Players in Project WiS or Eve. Competitions between capsuleers and ex dusters for example. - Since Project WiS is part of Eve, their login numbers add to the Eve numbers - Undocking and diving in into the world of New Eden is just one mouse click away (getting more people to try Eve) - With more time you'll find more points, but this should be enough to get the idea behind it This simply is a variation of earlier suggestions of splitting and thus lower development costs between two games. Something that shareholders also should like. I for myself don't really like Project WiS, but if a pact with the devil shareholders is needed to get WiS done, then so shall it be. Now this is what I was going for. Not just a suggestion but a basic model of how to put it all together instead of racking my brain for a while. I do like the touch of basically having the login to Project: WiS being the point of entry into either EVE or Nova. Basically choose your door type of thing.
Seriously.... your proposing a FPS within the eve client... may as well abandon any other feature in EvE for next 3-4 years if you want something like that... cause it will take all the dev time. (stop thinking eve is using the unreal engine/other fps engine... its not)
I want walking in stations as much as you guys do.. but you have to keep it simple and acheivable. Not some grand plan for another game within EvE.
I posted this a few pages back. Fairly basic and compliments the existing game. Would still take investment and resources by CCP but alot less than developing a compelte avatar experience within the game client.
Ideas that could be implemented with a moderate amount of work.
- Add scope videos to captains quarters. (already done. thanks CCP !)
- Use the resources of the eve 007 show and eve trailer production to put together a weekly summery on EvE. Make it voiced and animated by a npc newsreader. Show it on CQ screens. Would help new and old players get interested in parts of the game they have not tried. eg could feature : sov news, low sec piracy stories, how to join a player corp segment, economic news and industry stats etc etc.
- Add a room or wall for display of player trophy's / achievements Could be 1000 pvp kills get you a trophy or completing 1000 level 4 missions etc etc. Allow miniature corpse heads or destroyed ship models with inscriptions... Your best ever kill or most against all the odds victory.. Allow players to memorialize their player experience.
- Add CQ to citadels.
"... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where eve is placed... not in cave..." | zoonr-Korsairs | QFT !
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Aelavaine
University of Caille Gallente Federation
83
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Posted - 2016.04.26 07:51:29 -
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helana Tsero wrote:Seriously.... your proposing a FPS within the eve client... may as well abandon any other feature in EvE for next 3-4 years if you want something like that... cause it will take all the dev time. (stop thinking eve is using the unreal engine/other fps engine... its not) No, you got it wrong. Malci wanted something shareholders would like. Based on the past and current developments around Eve, I described something that maybe fits more their needs.
Contrary to your comment it wouldn't take all the dev time of Eve for the next years. It would take the dev time of those who worked already for Project Nova or Dust or Legion. WiS would be a kind of byproduct. Admittedly a larger one but still a byproduct, depending of how much features it contains.
If in the end the shooter is part of the Eve client or not, I don't care. Nobody is forced to use it. - And yes, a full functional WiS means to start from scratch again.
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helana Tsero
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
455
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Posted - 2016.04.26 11:55:39 -
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Aelavaine wrote:helana Tsero wrote:Seriously.... your proposing a FPS within the eve client... may as well abandon any other feature in EvE for next 3-4 years if you want something like that... cause it will take all the dev time. (stop thinking eve is using the unreal engine/other fps engine... its not) No, you got it wrong. Malci wanted something shareholders would like. Based on the past and current developments around Eve, I described something that maybe fits more their needs. Contrary to your comment it wouldn't take all the dev time of Eve for the next years. It would take the dev time of those who worked already for Project Nova or Dust or Legion. WiS would be a kind of byproduct. Admittedly a larger one but still a byproduct, depending of how much features it contains. If in the end the shooter is part of the Eve client or not, I don't care. Nobody is forced to use it. - And yes, a full functional WiS means to start from scratch again.
Don't want to get into a discussion about this cause its a side issue.. but the one key point is that building a fps or full avatar experience into the eve client is a much more difficult and time consuming endeavor than using a existing fps engine and starting a brand new game. Project Nova uses unreal engine, this engine is made for fps and content for fps style games can be created much quicker using its architecture and development kit. You cant hope to create a project nova style game in the eve client with eves engine in a similar time frame.
"... ppl need to get out of caves and they will see something new... thats where eve is placed... not in cave..." | zoonr-Korsairs | QFT !
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Jack Carrigan
Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order
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Posted - 2016.05.10 18:51:26 -
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All valid concerns.
I am the One who exists in Shadow. I am the Devil your parents warned you about.
||CEO: Order of the Shadow||Executor: The Revenant Order||Creator: Bowhead||
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Zathra Narazi
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
39
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Posted - 2016.05.26 10:16:41 -
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Jack Carrigan wrote:Avatar Gameplay Nooooo! |
Aelavaine
University of Caille Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2016.05.26 18:40:53 -
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I really appreciate the effort you put into your post. Can you give us a few minutes more of your precious time and provide us with more details why? Preferably with more than one word if it's not too much.
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2016.05.26 20:06:44 -
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Only if they deliver on the damned musical instruments
*Bumble likes to toot his own floot*
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Aelavaine
University of Caille Gallente Federation
86
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Posted - 2016.05.27 16:22:10 -
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Bumblefck wrote:*Bumble likes to toot his own floot* If the CCP corp would allow us to come together, you would not longer need to toot your own floot.
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SynthesisX
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Posted - 2016.07.12 10:47:52 -
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CCP already has the perfect mechanism from the now dearly departed Dust514.
The room where the dusties waited for battle was a sprawling atrium with a view of space where you could walk around with other mercs and form squads. It would be a perfect fit for in Citadels as an added attraction while you view the space around it.
Come on CCP grow a pair and do this, the Mittani is too busy standing in the ashes of his formerly over rated coalition & alliance to bark and raise a ruckus now, so let's get this done, okay? |
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