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Nazri al Mahdi
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:42:00 -
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Alp Khan wrote:Yogsoloth wrote:[quote=Alp Khan]
I'm sorry, I'm not going to spend hours of my life to simply move subcapitals around. I refuse to spend half a day simply to move minerals and my production goods to and from Jita. This is a game, not a second job.
On a sidenote, I'm looking forward to follow Grayscale's future in the gaming industry with such an impeccable credential under his belt if this takes place. I believe I have met with two-months old newbies in EVE that understood what is taking place in null more than Grayscale ever could. This is a righteous burn, and I agree that this idea is so bad that those responsible for it should be the next to be laid off. |
Gospadin
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
201
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:42:00 -
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To restate a point made 30 pages ago, the smart cap pilots / fleets will fully wait out their cooldowns before jumping again. 45 minutes per 5 LY.
In a big 10% TiDi bash between players, the dogpile can get there at a rate of 5 LY per 4.5 minutes of system fight time.
The repeated jumping will be for emergencies.
The 2nd back-to-back jump will take ~4 hours to decay, so for fights that last a few hours, jumping 10LY to help won't be a huge deal. |
HarlyQ
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:44:00 -
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Arrendis wrote:I would like to say, as someone who flies subcaps and capitals, and as a member of the Evil Empire...
CCP, thank you.
With this change, you shift the balance of power even further toward defense. Jump timers in friendly space? No problem, just gate to the nearest station and dock up. Need to project power across multiple regions? Don't jump the ship, jumpclone the character to the nearest cache.
I do truly appreciate everyone else taking the time to exult in how hard this will hurt the CFC. The single most masochistically grind-happy group in the history of EVE, willing to burn down an entire region with torpedo bombers, surely won't be willing to take gates anywhere, right?
I mean, we already do, after all. JBs are convenient, but Elo loves to shoot them, so vOv.
And hey, whose space is right next door to the Forge? Oh, right, ours.
MOA, have fun resupplying 5ZXX w/a 5ly limit on JFs.
TRI, PASTA? Oh, we're going to enjoy starving you all.
Thank you, CCP. Your most sadistic band of masochists may not all realize it yet, but you've given us a wonderful present for Halloween: we'll get to be monsters all winter long.
How dare you hate on the poor masses that live in eve and scrap out very little in life in this game. These poor poor people are going to fall off the bored and die due to starvation from the mighty Ark that fuels their live's being strangled R.I.P. MOA/poor people. |
Mijou Star
504 boyz Ctrl Alt L33T
8
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:44:00 -
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Ruric Thyase wrote:Yesterday:
Force projection is ruining EVE! Force projection is killing small gang PvP! Force projection is killing null sec! Force projection enables the Blue Doughnut!
Today:
OH GOD NOT MY FORCE PROJECTION WTF CPP?!
But seriously, this will hurt the JF logistics a LOT. Greyscale if you can't finish your example and state that you should slowboat a carrier 22 gates through null, you MIGht have to tweak some things I want to give this all the likes. |
Taraxon Taranogas
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
28
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:46:00 -
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Dear CCP,
I likely will not quit but I wanted to thank you for really suggesting "fixes" that destroy all the fun I actually have in the game.
Reality check: NOT ALL OF US LIKE PVP. SOME OF US ACTUALLY ENJOY LOGISTICS.
Thank you for making suggestions that make the game suck for us. Sure, I'm going to stargate jump a 7 bil JF filled with minerals or product into null.
By the way this will, as usual, hurt the little guy. The big alliances with all the ISK will be able to continue to do what they want the rest of us will just have to accept all the risk as usual.
If you wanted to make some positive changes, try taking the Tech 2 BPO's from the Goons and spreading the wealth. |
Scoro
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
1
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:46:00 -
[2286] - Quote
CCP will make no more money from me.. RIP this is a disaster. |
Sierra Mackenzie
Black Widow Logistics
6
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:47:00 -
[2287] - Quote
Legitimately just cancelled seven subscriptions.
http://i.gyazo.com/638d041175c961a71855ecc93754b3a1.png
If these changes affect jump freighters then CCP is not getting another cent from me. Alliance-level logistics is a NIGHTMARE as it is, and this is only going to make it worse. A cooldown to use my jump freighter character? Give me a break.
Your move, Greyscale. |
Jack Miton
Isogen 5
3820
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:49:00 -
[2288] - Quote
NS people, STAHP, MY TEAR BUCKET CAN ONLY HOLD SO MUCH!!!! Stuck In Here With Me:-á http://sihwm.blogspot.com.au/ Down the Pipe:-á http://downthepipe-wh.com/ |
Joey Zasa
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
12
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:49:00 -
[2289] - Quote
Sierra Mackenzie wrote:Legitimately just cancelled seven subscriptions. http://i.gyazo.com/638d041175c961a71855ecc93754b3a1.pngIf these changes affect jump freighters then CCP is not getting another cent from me. Alliance-level logistics is a NIGHTMARE as it is, and this is only going to make it worse. A cooldown to use my jump freighter character? Give me a break. Your move, Greyscale.
Can I have your stuffz? |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
297
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:50:00 -
[2290] - Quote
im sure this has been posted before but it pretty much suggests that this is fail on arrival https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rDMQpeKE-HzGKmFRTR69HJCk4McHyHz020Qs4Rgg414/htmlview?pli=1&sle=true#gid=0
And after this change, it just seems that there will be islands in null and low where supers are pocketed and are essentially unassiable. cant see how this is a good thing. I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
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ViRUS Pottage
SniggWaffe WAFFLES.
37
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:50:00 -
[2291] - Quote
Sierra Mackenzie wrote:Legitimately just cancelled seven subscriptions. http://i.gyazo.com/638d041175c961a71855ecc93754b3a1.pngIf these changes affect jump freighters then CCP is not getting another cent from me. Alliance-level logistics is a NIGHTMARE as it is, and this is only going to make it worse. A cooldown to use my jump freighter character? Give me a break. Your move, Greyscale.
Word |
veolias
Skyjack industries
0
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:51:00 -
[2292] - Quote
Joey Zasa wrote:Sierra Mackenzie wrote:Legitimately just cancelled seven subscriptions. http://i.gyazo.com/638d041175c961a71855ecc93754b3a1.pngIf these changes affect jump freighters then CCP is not getting another cent from me. Alliance-level logistics is a NIGHTMARE as it is, and this is only going to make it worse. A cooldown to use my jump freighter character? Give me a break. Your move, Greyscale. Can I have your stuffz?
yeh, you can have his stuff... oh wait , he lives on the edge of the map, you cant get to it !! |
Rob Cobb
Probe Patrol Ixtab.
32
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:51:00 -
[2293] - Quote
Sierra Mackenzie wrote:Legitimately just cancelled seven subscriptions. http://i.gyazo.com/638d041175c961a71855ecc93754b3a1.pngIf these changes affect jump freighters then CCP is not getting another cent from me. Alliance-level logistics is a NIGHTMARE as it is, and this is only going to make it worse. A cooldown to use my jump freighter character? Give me a break. Your move, Greyscale.
You just won eve. Game over, 0 lives left, no respawn. |
Only Two
Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple
2
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:52:00 -
[2294] - Quote
Sierra Mackenzie wrote:Legitimately just cancelled seven subscriptions. http://i.gyazo.com/638d041175c961a71855ecc93754b3a1.pngIf these changes affect jump freighters then CCP is not getting another cent from me. Alliance-level logistics is a NIGHTMARE as it is, and this is only going to make it worse. A cooldown to use my jump freighter character? Give me a break. Your move, Greyscale. Send your isk and assets to me before you quit please, and don't let the door hit you on the way out. Because I don't want ass-prints on my new door. |
Billy Hardcore
Jaded.
174
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:52:00 -
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For the love of all that is holy plz do NOT fatigue black ops!!!!!!! #BillyFleet |
Soturno
PREDATORS.
9
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:53:00 -
[2296] - Quote
Sierra Mackenzie wrote:Legitimately just cancelled seven subscriptions. http://i.gyazo.com/638d041175c961a71855ecc93754b3a1.pngIf these changes affect jump freighters then CCP is not getting another cent from me. Alliance-level logistics is a NIGHTMARE as it is, and this is only going to make it worse. A cooldown to use my jump freighter character? Give me a break. Your move, Greyscale.
RAGEQUITTTTTTTTTT Go little carebar Go.....HOME |
Davionia Vanshel
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
19
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:54:00 -
[2297] - Quote
Hmmm with these changes you'll be flying T1 freighters down nullsec pipes because (a) hold more (b) cheaper and (c) Jump Freighters will need to use the stargate anyway |
Operative X10-4
PREDATORS.
38
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:54:00 -
[2298] - Quote
Sierra Mackenzie wrote:Legitimately just cancelled seven subscriptions. http://i.gyazo.com/638d041175c961a71855ecc93754b3a1.pngIf these changes affect jump freighters then CCP is not getting another cent from me. Alliance-level logistics is a NIGHTMARE as it is, and this is only going to make it worse. A cooldown to use my jump freighter character? Give me a break. Your move, Greyscale.
Now stop faking and press undo cancel ... and tks for the tears! FOREVER PIRATE 07 FLY DANGEROUSLY. |
Kalissis
49
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:55:00 -
[2299] - Quote
Sierra Mackenzie wrote:Legitimately just cancelled seven subscriptions. http://i.gyazo.com/638d041175c961a71855ecc93754b3a1.pngIf these changes affect jump freighters then CCP is not getting another cent from me. Alliance-level logistics is a NIGHTMARE as it is, and this is only going to make it worse. A cooldown to use my jump freighter character? Give me a break. Your move, Greyscale.
Greyscale your move to save the game, continue dont listen to those guys, if they dont know how to do logistics, let them burn!
Greyscale I want your babies!!! |
Vol Arm'OOO
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
297
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:55:00 -
[2300] - Quote
Billy Hardcore wrote:For the love of all that is holy plz do NOT fatigue black ops!!!!!!!
and covert ops
We need a save the "bombers bar" petition (and similar organizations). I don't play, I just fourm warrior. |
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Dark Phox
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:55:00 -
[2301] - Quote
I for one think they're giving you this bad idea to crowdsource a better idea.
I also think if these are the changes being made they should make all ships capable of having a jump drive, and able to jump to any cyno, not just ones in fleet, but have the time it takes to complete the jump be equal to the time It would take to go gate to gate.
Then, remove jump gates all together and cynos.
I think the sun in each system should work in place of a cyno, and you just end up at a random spot within 5k of it just like a cyno.
Since the sun is a more accurate as far as a source of power that could be locked onto, and an actual visual marker that you could relate a distance to. More like real life if we could actually jump to an extreme source of power. |
BrokenBC
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
46
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:56:00 -
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All chars unsubed . This is just to much. A nerf was needed but again ccp's knee jerk response is way over the top. im done.
No you cant has my stuffs. |
Onictus
Sigillum Militum Xpisti Black Legion.
924
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:56:00 -
[2303] - Quote
So I was already having a hard time justifying the time to play eve as it was.
Now all logistics takes 4 times as long, moving my crap around takes exponentially longer.
RIP 4 more accounts, I can't be bothered. Warping caps? With 30 second align times? Mad. Someone is off of their spoon. The hell with this, its bad enough that I spend more time buying **** than I do using it as it is. This is the straw that breaks the camel.
Own sov YAY un-ending rep ops.....now done with logi instead of carriers.....
Don't own SOV, the ability to move your ships just passed. Yeah, bye.
......and no one is getting ****, no stuff for you. |
Joey Zasa
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
17
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:57:00 -
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Operative X10-4 wrote:Sierra Mackenzie wrote:Legitimately just cancelled seven subscriptions. http://i.gyazo.com/638d041175c961a71855ecc93754b3a1.pngIf these changes affect jump freighters then CCP is not getting another cent from me. Alliance-level logistics is a NIGHTMARE as it is, and this is only going to make it worse. A cooldown to use my jump freighter character? Give me a break. Your move, Greyscale. Now stop faking and press undo cancel ... and tks for the tears!
REAL MEN BIOMASS...... |
Bisches McFrosty
State War Academy Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.10.02 02:58:00 -
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My account is paid up through January, but I just unsubscribed. If these changes make it into the game by the time my game time runs out I won't be resubscribing. Thanks for killing Eve, CCP Greyscale. I hope you're able to keep your job after you cause CCP to lose this many customers. |
Soturno
PREDATORS.
9
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Posted - 2014.10.02 03:00:00 -
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Onictus wrote:So I was already having a hard time justifying the time to play eve as it was.
Now all logistics takes 4 times as long, moving my crap around takes exponentially longer.
RIP 4 more accounts, I can't be bothered. Warping caps? With 30 second align times? Mad. Someone is off of their spoon. The hell with this, its bad enough that I spend more time buying **** than I do using it as it is. This is the straw that breaks the camel.
Own sov YAY un-ending rep ops.....now done with logi instead of carriers.....
Don't own SOV, the ability to move your ships just passed. Yeah, bye.
......and no one is getting ****, no stuff for you.
WTB 4 accounts....1bil for all. |
Joey Zasa
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
17
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Posted - 2014.10.02 03:00:00 -
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BrokenBC wrote:All chars unsubed . This is just to much. A nerf was needed but again ccp's knee jerk response is way over the top. im done.
No you cant has my stuffs.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Biomassing_a_pilot |
Aiwha
Infinite Point Nulli Secunda
794
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Posted - 2014.10.02 03:00:00 -
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Jump fatigue is tracked for each character, persisting between play sessions and over downtimes as appropriate.
This is the only thing I'm not jiving with. One of the big things in EVE that makes it leagues better than any other MMO is the offline aspect of timers. You train SP offline, your JC timer proceeds offline, your killrights tick away offline, ect. Forcing us to keep our clients logged in for long periods of time makes no sense whatsoever, it just means you're consuming more electricity on a global scale.
It is good for making your login numbers look good though... :tinfoil: We're winning the war if it says so on CAOD! -á
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Kalissis
50
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Posted - 2014.10.02 03:01:00 -
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Taraxon Taranogas wrote:Dear CCP,
I likely will not quit but I wanted to thank you for really suggesting "fixes" that destroy all the fun I actually have in the game.
Reality check: NOT ALL OF US LIKE PVP. SOME OF US ACTUALLY ENJOY LOGISTICS.
Thank you for making suggestions that make the game suck for us. Sure, I'm going to stargate jump a 7 bil JF filled with minerals or product into null.
By the way this will, as usual, hurt the little guy. The big alliances with all the ISK will be able to continue to do what they want the rest of us will just have to accept all the risk as usual.
If you wanted to make some positive changes, try taking the Tech 2 BPO's from the Goons and spreading the wealth.
If you like logistics, now is your chance to do it even better and have even more deep strategic ways of doing so! Enjoy! +1 for goon hate tho.
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
1028
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Posted - 2014.10.02 03:02:00 -
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BrokenBC wrote:All chars unsubed . This is just to much. A nerf was needed but again ccp's knee jerk response is way over the top. im done.
No you cant has my stuffs.
I would think you are the one knee jerking. There is still 6 weeks for them to make tweeks, why don;t you post WHY you think it bad and not have some cry baby moment. HTFU, and if you go, i doubt you will be missed OMG Comet Mining idea!!! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331766 |
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