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Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.27 12:00:00 -
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Why should CCP hold your hand and protect you? CONCORD, which is OP, already patrols HiSec to serve as a deterrent, exacting absolute vengeance on criminals. Note that it's "HiSec", not "MaxSec" - there is no absolute security in EVE. You consent to PvP each time you undock. Do not fly what you can't afford to lose and consider every ship you undock to already be dead.
That said there are many steps you can take. The first step is setting up an "instadock". The 2nd step is specific to the ship you were in - L2CLOAK. Epic Space Cat |
Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.27 19:45:00 -
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CCP Falcon for president. Epic Space Cat |
Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.29 18:18:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:EVE is moving to a place where there are no more consequences.
So the only people who shouldn't have consequences for their choices are HiSec bears? Got it.
Lucas Kell wrote:I would love EVE to be a dark and gritty hardcore game, but that's really not what it is.
It is. Maybe you've just gotten used to it.
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Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.29 18:42:00 -
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ashley Eoner wrote: How is something that occurs daily in a variety of systems suddenly considered "laughably rare"??
IDK let's see, there are a little over 1,000 HiSec systems.
Most of the HiSec ganking occurs in small pockets around 2 chief systems - Amarr and Jita, since those are the major trade hubs. There is also some ganking that occurs in the pipe between them.
So let's say most ganking occurs in 20 systems, which is being generous. That's 2% of HiSec systems. Laughably rare and laughably easy to avoid.
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Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.29 18:59:00 -
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Since Jan 17, 2007, ZKILL only records 700 or so Freighter losses in Uedama. That's only 100 or so per year. No way to tell how many of those are suicide ganks vs kill rights, war decs, etcetc. Epic Space Cat |
Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.29 19:31:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Nowhere did I say they shouldn't have consequences.
Your position on the matter is logically inducted via your posts and what you've said. See:
a bear cant transport 30m in a hauler without running the risk of being ganked.
Which they can, BTW, they just have to fit tank. :)
Lucas Kell wrote:No, it's really not. You're delusional if you think it is.
Present your argument then, or accept being incorrect.
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Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.29 20:13:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Erm no, your logic is incorrect.
Nope my logic is perfectly fine. You are obviously an anti-greifer, carebear advocate. You whine about how carebears have it soooo hard, and call for stricture consequences to gankers. You never once, as far as I've read, called for stricture consequences for carebears or even advocated that carebears should take even the most rudimentary of steps to protect themselves.
Ergo, your position is fairly obvious to everyone reading.
Lucas Kell wrote:And standard haulers generally can't survived 10-15 T1 catalysts, no matter how much you tank them.
Even the most obtuse gankers aren't going to spend 100-150 million ISK worth of Catalysts to kill an IttyV carrying 30 mil of Omber.
Lucas Kell wrote:L O L. You mean like the argument I presented when I originally said it? Vs what? You saying "Yes it is". 0/10, try harder.
So you're not going to present your argument? Mmkay then. Epic Space Cat |
Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.29 20:15:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Lucas Kell wrote:And standard haulers generally can't survived 10-15 T1 catalysts, no matter how much you tank them. Surviving 10GÇô15 catalysts in a hauler isn't particularly hard, and using 10GÇô15 catalysts means you operate at a loss if the target is carrying 30M worth of goods.
This Lucas guy. He's kinda special. Epic Space Cat |
Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.29 20:21:00 -
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Gee yes things are more expensive then 5 -10 years ago but the scale of ganking to profit and ease of ganking has done nothing but gone up and gotten easier.
Gank:profit ratios depends entirely on other players. It's your choice if you want to be a profitable target are not.
There is no reason to cry cry cry when the power is in your hands.
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Yes more people are ganking not only for profit but for the lulz only because it is so cheap and because Blue-sec has very little going on
- How cheap is ganking? Tell me, give me some hard numbers.
- What does "Blue-Sec" (I'm assuming you mean NullSec) have to do with it?
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Give haulers a chance to fit better tank because shooting back wont effect the gank.
CCP just recently allowed freighters to fit tank. An unprecedented move, and you're crying for "the chance to fit better tank"? Jesus! The entitlement in you people is endless.
BTW it doesn't matter how much chance you have to fit tank if you're not going to use it, so what are you crying about?
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:I understand the tears from the crybaby gankers.
The only one crying here is you.
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:Just like the tears from the barge changes this to shall pass.
What tears? I did some of my best ganking after the update. Epic Space Cat |
Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.29 21:27:00 -
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Steppa Musana wrote:Shooting back really is stupid advice, no offense to anyone who's recommended it.
Badgers can fit 70,000 EHP. Impels 800,000 EHP. RF/Push do freighter runs for dirt cheap
The only people that have a right to complain at that point are the big courier groups like RF and Push. Oh wait, they aren't complaining, because they web-warp their freighter each time a bump ship is on grid.
Let's assume you really want to fly your own freighter though. And let's assume web-warping didn't exist. Grab a Providence and fit it with deadspace armor resists. Then grab a couple buddies, or alts. Put them in a Nestor. Congrats! One of those Nestors reps enough back to counter six Talos gank ships. You have two of them.
Threads like this should be stickied, just so new players can see how absurd the notion of nerfing ganking is and how much of an advantage the gankee has.
Did you know that the humble Sigil can get 1200 passive regen on shields? Epic Space Cat |
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Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.30 00:10:00 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Benny Ohu wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:I you roll over my sheep with your armored truck, I can do two things about it: - buy myself an armored truck and blow yours - bring some pesticide and poison all sheeps in your brother's farm as he was who paid for your truck. Your sheeps for my sheeps, dude. so you'd go and murder some random person's sheep because some one roadkilled one of yours? you are aware how stupid that is, right? He's not a random person. He's the guy who pays your bills. Your sheeps for my sheeps. that's not how responsibility works also what is this line of conversation even about this is the only post in this thread i've cared to read besides falcon's which are beautiful posts made by a beautiful man The serous point is that PvPrs who disrupt the non-PvP activities of players who don't engage in PvP should be exposed to have their own non-PvP acitvities disrupted by their victims. A extreme and funny example was given by Mike Azariah in his "Peace dec" blog. The whole risk vs reward is biased since A can force his playstyle on B but B can't force his play style on A, so B must either play as A does or quit the game. That's barely an equitable choice, but CCP are OK with it.
I read that crappy blog and it's garbage. No one is forcing you not to run missions or not haul 10 billion ISK worth of stuff in an untanked Iteron V.
Also, failing to grasp the basic premise of EVE Online: You and that author are doing that.
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Xuixien
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Posted - 2014.08.30 13:39:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:And standard haulers generally can't survived 10-15 T1 catalysts,
They can survive them by not making themselves a target for them. Don't haul more than the Catalysts are worth.
Lucas Kell wrote:Depends on if they are going for loot or a green killboard and tears.
Not really. You'd be hard pressed to recruit 15 people in Catalysts to kill a T1 hauler carrying 30m of stuff. At that amount of Catalysts you might as well gank an Orca worth 800m.
Lucas Kell wrote:And no, a standard hauler, as in not a freighter
I was not aware that freighters were non-standard hauling ships. Are freighters used for something else?
Lucas Kell wrote:Wrong. Try not trolling so much. Basically you disagree with me, so rather than come up with something sensible to say you are going to attack me, call me a carebear lover, and blah blah blah, the usual tears of someone with the inability to communicate. If you read what I actually wrote, you''d realise you were talking out of your ass. Either way, I'm not arguing this point with you. Troll elsewhere.
What a compelling argument! Except not, because it's just a bunch of insults.
Lucas Kell wrote:Where are you buying your T1 catalysts for 10m a pop? 2.5m tops, and that's if you can't be bothered to wait of buy orders.
Sorry, but you just said "Catalyst", you never defined T1 or T2 so I went and did that for you. :)
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