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beakerax
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.14 23:55:00 -
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I can understand the complaint here. In prior skill changes, CCP has given a massive SP advantage to older players (say, those with Command Ships trained) at the expense of both existing new players (without Battlecruisers V or Command Ships) and hypothetical future new players. This change only gives old players (SDO V + CDO V) an advantage over the unborn future new players, not the existing new-ish players (SDO V + CDO less than V). That is clearly inconsistent and unfair.
The obvious solution is to reward everyone who trained both skills to V with Combat Drone Operation - Elite trade items. Or possibly a Civilian Hobgoblin. |
beakerax
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:04:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:Uh, Command Ships didn't give people an SP advantage. It's actually faster for a new player to train to CS than it was before. And the pre-skills are useful in any ship when a squad commander now. At least know what you are talking about when you complain about things. Command Ships required Battlecruisers V which was split into 4 skills. Futhermore, the way in which Command Ship pilots were grandfathered in means that I can now fly (four) T2 ships despite never having trained the required skills.
I apologize for confusing you, though. |
beakerax
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.15 21:46:00 -
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Nevyn Auscent wrote:CS pilots weren't actually grand fathered in We must be using that term in different ways.
Nevyn Auscent wrote:& yes Tippia is right, no skills were given. Erm, yes skills were given. About 5 months 4 months worth of skills.
Nevyn Auscent wrote:But it wasn't specific to CS pilots I never claimed that it was.
Of course, none of this has anything to do with either the substance of my first post or the topic of the thread, so I'm going to let this technical silliness lie now. |
beakerax
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.15 22:26:00 -
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Tippia wrote:beakerax wrote:Erm, yes skills were given. About 5 months 4 months worth of skills. Not for command ships, no. I wonder if the post that kicked off this bizarre discussion specifically mentioned it was people without Battlecruisers V or without Command Ships at the time of the patch who got the short shrift.
What's that? It did ? |
beakerax
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.15 23:02:00 -
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Tippia wrote:beakerax wrote:I wonder if the post that kicked off this bizarre discussion specifically mentioned it was people without Battlecruisers V or without Command Ships at the time of the patch who got the short shrift. Doesn't particularly matter. The point is that Command Ships was never a factor to begin with. No particular advantage was given to GÇ£older players (say, those with Command Ships trained)GÇ¥, and command ships were not in any way grandfathered in. Earlier you agreed that players who were able to train Command Ships I pre-patch were potentially able to fly ships post-patch that they had never skilled for (how is that not an advantage?), and having Battlecruisers V completed before the patch was also clearly advantageous.
You can argue that there was no better way to go about performing the change if want, but those two things definitely happened. |
beakerax
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.15 23:31:00 -
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And nothing, really. As far as I can tell, this Command Ships thing as been an irrelevant exercise in pedantry.
ggGD |
beakerax
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.05.16 07:32:00 -
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Nar' alk Breau wrote:Quoting my advantage over future players is also irrelevant. Well ****, I guess EVE really is dying. |
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