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Doireen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:50:00 -
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If Valkyie is a big hit (which i suspect it will be), will it kill EVE?
Or is the longterm plan to make Valkyrie, EVE 2.0?
If all the sandbox elements of EVE are transferred to Valk, it may.
Your thoughts? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Forum Clone 77777
Do You Even Irony Broew
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:52:00 -
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Isnt valkyrie just a sort of FPS or FPSSS (First Person SpaceShip Shooter) game? How is this in any way comparable to EVE? |
Doireen Kaundur
727
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:53:00 -
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Forum Clone 77777 wrote:Isnt valkyrie just a sort of FPS or FPSSS (First Person SpaceShip Shooter) game? How is this in any way comparable to EVE?
That is how it's being advertised, but I suspect it will be much bigger than that. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:54:00 -
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Really?
YBTL
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5042
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:54:00 -
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Considering that Facebook has already killed Valkyrie, I doubt it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21069
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:55:00 -
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Why would it? And how could it? The two aren't even the same genre of game. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Doireen Kaundur
727
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:57:00 -
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So we know for a fact that Valk will have no sandbox elements to it? It's strictly just a shooter? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:58:00 -
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EVE is dead! EVE is dead! Long live EVE! I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1037
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:58:00 -
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Not if Star Citizen kills it first! |
Forum Clone 77777
Do You Even Irony Broew
249
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:58:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Forum Clone 77777 wrote:Isnt valkyrie just a sort of FPS or FPSSS (First Person SpaceShip Shooter) game? How is this in any way comparable to EVE? That is how it's being advertised, but I suspect it will be much bigger than that. When your local grocery store advertises that you can get 2 apples for the price of 1, do you also come in suspecting youl get even more than that?
If thats the case, youl be dissappointed, advertisements advertise one thing, not something else. There is absolutely no reason to think Valkyrie will be more than what it is, Im not saying its not possible, EVE is also alot more than it was when it was released. But to think Valkyrie will take over the role of EVE is absurd. |
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Maximillan Lancaster
Alpha Traders
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:26:00 -
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IF Valkyrie is a big hit.
Keyword: If. |
Catherine Wolfisheim
Terran Republican Guard
285
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:28:00 -
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I don't think so, Valkyrie will probably attract a number of EVE Online players as Dust 514 did as it has its own appeal, but in essence it's a different game. If the EVE Online players wanted to switch entirely kind of games then they would do so. That's not the case, since you are bringing up one kind of game with another that is different. ~ C.W.
G£¬ Personal Blog http://catherine-wolfisheim.tumblr.com |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2119
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:29:00 -
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The only thing that will kill EVE is highsec. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
3984
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:43:00 -
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Eve'l Dead: 10th Anniversary |
Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:54:00 -
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Valkyrie is just a gimmick to sell Oculus... and Facebook... ------------ |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
454
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:04:00 -
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I'm the only one here looking forward to the first ever virtual reality spaceshooter?
Just drop the crap for once.
Who didn't want exactly that?
I regret is that I didn't buy a devkit in time. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:04:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Valkyrie is just a gimmick to sell Oculus... and Facebook... Close.
Valkyrie is a gimmick to sell Oculus. Facebook bought Oculus as a gimmick to sell 3D cameras so that people can share 3D images and video of their kids as a gimmick for giving people a reason to continue using Facebook. Also, an Oculus user can see more adverts than a flatscreen or cell phone user. Also, who here doesn't want to upload a facebook picture of Grandma wearing an Oculus while using facebook?
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2120
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:10:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I'm the only one here looking forward to the first ever virtual reality spaceshooter?
Just drop the crap for once.
Who didn't want exactly that?
I regret is that I didn't buy a devkit in time.
I would be nice if the equipment to play it was less expensive. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
samualvimes
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
217
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:20:00 -
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While the idea of facebook owning the oculus is not exactly great it does mean that there is a lot less chance I might buy one and ONLY ever use it for Valkyrie.
Double edged sword.
Could be great. could be bad.
Will Wait
Will See
However Eve could not run in the same server style as Valkyrie owing to the 1hz server tick, If you've never tried PvP in EvE it's quite possible you've missed out on one of the greatest rushes available in modern gaming. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1269
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:21:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Valkyrie is just a gimmick to sell Oculus... and Facebook... Close. Valkyrie is a gimmick to sell Oculus. Facebook bought Oculus as a gimmick to sell 3D cameras so that people can share 3D images and video of their kids as a gimmick for giving people a reason to continue using Facebook. Also, an Oculus user can see more adverts than a flatscreen or cell phone user. Also, who here doesn't want to upload a facebook picture of Grandma wearing an Oculus while using facebook?
naah the future is 3d cats wearing occulus goggles chasing red dots |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:21:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Valkyrie is just a gimmick to sell Oculus... and Facebook... Close. Valkyrie is a gimmick to sell Oculus. Facebook bought Oculus as a gimmick to sell 3D cameras so that people can share 3D images and video of their kids as a gimmick for giving people a reason to continue using Facebook. Also, an Oculus user can see more adverts than a flatscreen or cell phone user. Also, who here doesn't want to upload a facebook picture of Grandma wearing an Oculus while using facebook?
Humor aside, just in case people take your post too seriously, no Valkyrie was not developed to sell Oculus. Valkyrie was developed because a few CCP developers though the Oculus was cool.
I'll also remind people that no matter how much you hate Facebook, the same people are still developing Oculus... the same guy is running the company. Facebook is simply funding development, and is likely looking to diversify as the popularity of Facebook wanes with some age groups.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:31:00 -
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No *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Gabriel Z
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
17
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:52:00 -
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I can tell that most of you have not been keeping up with Valkyrie news. One of the devs/producers, in an interview, explicitly stated that Valkyrie would have grinding (he didn't put it like that of course) elements. There will be PvE for income.
There's no way to prove it, except waiting, but I think they are planning ahead for EVE's eventual demise. They want something with broader appeal and participation. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3393
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:54:00 -
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Gabriel Z wrote: explicitly stated that Valkyrie would have grinding
Im not sure what you are saying *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:58:00 -
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Gabriel Z wrote:One of the devs/producers, in an interview, explicitly stated that Valkyrie would have grinding (he didn't put it like that of course) elements. There will be PvE for income. So what did he say, if not exactly that? And what does it have to do with anything? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
161
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:59:00 -
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****, I left my tinfoil hat on that other thread about eve's death. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
Dominic karin
Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans
40
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:05:00 -
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No. Valkrye is nothing like Eve and Eve's gameplay can't be applied to a first person combat game, it just doesn't work. |
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:15:00 -
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No. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a grand plan in the back of CCP's mind about merging Valkyrie, EVE & Dust (or their successors) at some distant point in the future, though. I don't think current tech would support it. Who knows what 10 years could bring?
At some point, they'll almost certainly have to look at rewriting the legacy code of EVE. When they do that, I wouldn't be surprised if they put some new options on the table. When will that happen? I certainly don't know. |
Tarpedo
Incursionista
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:40:00 -
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No, simulators are the least interesting genre for MMO and most of them are struggling to survive - they require too much energy to play and at the same time gameplay is tedious and repetitive + becomes boring soon, most players abandon them quickly.
No wonder 70% of player in the *other spaceship* game voted for exploration as their activity of choice - which was surprise to the devs who expected "PvE" to be the most popular. It turns out nobody give a damn about space simulation - people want exploration, beautiful vistas, occasional quick PvE and very rare PvP encounters from spaceship games. |
stoicfaux
4517
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:44:00 -
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Dominic karin wrote:No. Valkrye is nothing like Eve and Eve's gameplay can't be applied to a first person combat game, it just doesn't work. Bullshit. Are you really trying to tell us that it's impossible to render an F1 key in 3D in Oculus?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21073
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:48:00 -
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Dominic karin wrote:No. Valkrye is nothing like Eve and Eve's gameplay can't be applied to a first person combat game, it just doesn't work. Wooo! Compelling first-person-putting-15-million-units-of-trit-in-the-build-queue action gameplay! MMFPPFMUoTitBQO GÇö it's a whole new genre! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
3393
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:48:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Dominic karin wrote:No. Valkrye is nothing like Eve and Eve's gameplay can't be applied to a first person combat game, it just doesn't work. Bullshit. Are you really trying to tell us that it's impossible to render an F1 key in 3D in Oculus?
Id watch that.... if the in game controls were like Trespass.... *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:56:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Dominic karin wrote:No. Valkrye is nothing like Eve and Eve's gameplay can't be applied to a first person combat game, it just doesn't work. Wooo! Compelling first-person-putting-15-million-units-of-trit-in-the-build-queue action gameplay! MMFPPFMUoTitBQO GÇö it's a whole new genre! Oculus meets Minecraft meets EVE mining & industry? I think CCP owes us a seventh Building Better Worlds blog.
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Runini
SSPB
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:57:00 -
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could care less about Oculus & Valkrye, If I wanted to play that would just install and play FreeLancer again without paying a monthly fee for it |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
698
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Posted - 2014.04.18 17:38:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Humor aside, just in case people take your post too seriously, no Valkyrie was not developed to sell Oculus. Valkyrie was developed because a few CCP developers though the Oculus was cool. I'll also remind people that no matter how much you hate Facebook, the same people are still developing Oculus... the same guy is running the company. Facebook is simply funding development, and is likely looking to diversify as the popularity of Facebook wanes with some age groups. That's all fine, but...
I was thinking about dipping my toes in Valkyrie just for the fun of it. I would have bought the Oculus Rift just for this. I'm definitely not going to buy the Oculus now and since I certainly will not buy a PS/4, there will be no Valkyrie.
Remove insurance. |
Sibyyl
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Posted - 2014.04.18 17:52:00 -
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I don't see why they have to be mutually exclusive. I would imagine CCP would only be too happy not to be a one trick pony. Now that you are *campers* you will have more *parties* and no more *sad* *lonely* *bubbles*. |
stoicfaux
4522
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Posted - 2014.04.18 17:58:00 -
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Did someone say ponies?
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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
739
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Posted - 2014.04.18 17:59:00 -
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Star Citizen will kill EVE. Not today spaghetti. |
Garia666
CyberShield Inc Triumvirate.
73
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Posted - 2014.04.18 18:02:00 -
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Shederov Blood wrote:Not if Star Citizen kills it first!
This,
EVE has been on the top of space MMO for the last 11 years. Star Citizen will take allot of members out of EVE |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
21074
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Posted - 2014.04.18 18:03:00 -
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Garia666 wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Not if Star Citizen kills it first! This, EVE has been on the top of space MMO for the last 11 years. GǪand not being an MMO, SC is not very likely to change that. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3188
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Posted - 2014.04.18 18:22:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Will Valkyrie kill EVE? No.
/thread
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Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
367
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Posted - 2014.04.18 18:29:00 -
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Given that usual CCP m.o is to give us less than whats advertised *cough*planetaryinteration*cough*, *cough*walkinginstations*cough*, I wouldn't be taking any bets on Valkyrie having more than what has been advertised. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3188
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Posted - 2014.04.18 18:37:00 -
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Aralyn Cormallen wrote:Given that usual CCP m.o is to give us less than whats advertised *cough*planetaryinteration*cough*, *cough*walkinginstations*cough*, I wouldn't be taking any bets on Valkyrie having more than what has been advertised. I don't think we know enough about it yet to say what is advertised. We don't know a whole lot about it... other than it looks really awesome.
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Dorian Tormak
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
114
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Posted - 2014.04.18 18:43:00 -
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Gogela wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Will Valkyrie kill EVE? No. /thread
This, and also when I search for Valkyrie nothing really comes up and when I search "Valkyrie space game" still nothing really comes up so this game is **** and not even comparable to Eve. Eve's been around for like over ten years, honestly any thread that says, implies or insinuates in any way that another game could possibly kill Eve, that's either just a stupid troll thread, or just a stupid thread.
Eve may die eventually, and it won't be because some other space game came out and stole the thunder. Dorian Trollmak. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
375
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Posted - 2014.04.18 18:58:00 -
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Garia666 wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Not if Star Citizen kills it first! This, EVE has been on the top of space MMO for the last 11 years. Star Citizen will take allot of members out of EVE
No to derail this thread, but I need to address this with... Whatever you are smoking, please pass it.
That other game is nothing like eve, if you honestly think it will do more then effect the subscription base for a short period of time, then you really are smoking something.
As this pertains to valk, i'll do a quick comparison from what I understand, SC is heavily instanced. Meaning your odds of seeing someone that you wan tto kill are greatly reduced. It will be sharded, so multiple servers. Its not really an mmo. Lots of things sound good, but it is honestly nothing at all like eve.
Valk nor SC will kill eve. SC could help improve both valk and eve, but kill it? I doubt that. |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
116
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Posted - 2014.04.18 19:16:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Forum Clone 77777 wrote:Isnt valkyrie just a sort of FPS or FPSSS (First Person SpaceShip Shooter) game? How is this in any way comparable to EVE? That is how it's being advertised, but I suspect it will be much bigger than that. Suspect? Means you don't have a clue...
It will likely fail miserably... |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1527
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Posted - 2014.04.18 19:24:00 -
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Yes, Eve is doomed. Dooooooooooomed I say.
Contract all of your belongings to PotatoOverdose on your way out. Please and thank you. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5270
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Posted - 2014.04.18 19:42:00 -
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Quote:Will Valkyrie kill EVE?
90% of EVE players are so afraid of twitch that they've actually disabled their WASD keys with bubble gum and duct tape.
Valkyrie will not kill EVE. It will be a whole different player demographic.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1699
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Posted - 2014.04.18 19:59:00 -
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Garia666 wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Not if Star Citizen kills it first! This, EVE has been on the top of space MMO for the last 11 years. Star Citizen will take allot of members out of EVE
SC is going nowhere. EVE will leave it in the dust, and here's why.
- SC is on Cryengine which is a fascinating choice considering that it is designed for jungle island maps. It will not easily support astronomical scales.
- SC has been in development for a while now with millions in funding and has only delivered a trophy room and hanger. Modding attempts have demonstrated that the underlying code to make the ships do things like even fly is often missing.
- SC multiplayer will undoubtedly be terrible, since Goonswarm federation is a design constraint: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=189920 so expect carebear island.
- SC continues to put the emphasis on getting more backers which clearly indicates it is a glorified scam. I personally can't wait for the bubble to burst and the rage.
Trying to defeat EVE is like boxing a kangaroo, you are going to lose and be humiliated or worse in the process.
As for Valkyrie, it isn't the same kind of game as EVE. It began with the idea of putting you in the cockpit of a fighter drone (since the capital sized drones do have pilots, apparently, which you can see if you zoom in on them) allowing for awesome space dogfights (which real fighter drones never participate in) .
And, as for EVE, well this game is pretty much perfect. The polarizing drama, the rich and vibrant community, and the current political state prove that. If EVE was a terrible game that nobody cared about, these things would not exist. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
376
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:15:00 -
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masternerdguy wrote:Garia666 wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Not if Star Citizen kills it first! This, EVE has been on the top of space MMO for the last 11 years. Star Citizen will take allot of members out of EVE SC is going nowhere. EVE will leave it in the dust, and here's why.
- SC is on Cryengine which is a fascinating choice considering that it is designed for jungle island maps. It will not easily support astronomical scales.
- SC has been in development for a while now with millions in funding and has only delivered a trophy room and hanger. Modding attempts have demonstrated that the underlying code to make the ships do things like even fly is often missing.
- SC multiplayer will undoubtedly be terrible, since Goonswarm federation is a design constraint: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=189920 so expect carebear island.
- SC continues to put the emphasis on getting more backers which clearly indicates it is a glorified scam. I personally can't wait for the bubble to burst and the rage.
Trying to defeat EVE is like boxing a kangaroo, you are going to lose and be humiliated or worse in the process. As for Valkyrie, it isn't the same kind of game as EVE. It began with the idea of putting you in the cockpit of a fighter drone (since the capital sized drones do have pilots, apparently, which you can see if you zoom in on them) allowing for awesome space dogfights (which real fighter drones never participate in) . And, as for EVE, well this game is pretty much perfect. The polarizing drama, the rich and vibrant community, and the current political state prove that. If EVE was a terrible game that nobody cared about, these things would not exist.
This, anyone who knows anything about eve knows it has zero to fear from SC. Esp cause you can't loot in SC. *rolls his eyes*
Valk will b a complement to eve, eventually. I think ti will be a stand alone for a while though |
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Divine Entervention
Abyss Cooperative 3
348
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:18:00 -
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Valkyrie will be a game that requires skill and ability to aim and be successful. Skill does not appeal to the EvE player base, so a game based on it will not pull the EvE player base away. Proof of lying in thread.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4349703#post4349703 |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1441
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:21:00 -
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this thing makes SC incredible from start.
can we import it into Eve?
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Doireen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:37:00 -
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Garia666 wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Not if Star Citizen kills it first! This, EVE has been on the top of space MMO for the last 11 years. Star Citizen will take allot of members out of EVE
Actually EVE has been the only spaced based MMO in these respects:
-sandbox play -one shard universe -functioning in game economy with an economist at the helm. -not a franchise hack (Starwars/StarTrek..so on)
So the reality is that EVE has had a monopoly which may explain its long life. 10+ years
With other spaced based games on the horizon, CCP may see some real competition for once. Which may explain also why the plug was pulled on WOD. If you run the risk of losing your base EVE players, why cater to the emo-vamipire crowd?
I dont have all the facts on SC, but if it incorporates any of the above, CCP will not be able to rest on its laurels much longer and some serious content will have to be produced to retain the EVE player. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1699
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:45:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Valkyrie will be a game that requires skill and ability to aim and be successful. Skill does not appeal to the EvE player base, so a game based on it will not pull the EvE player base away.
So you are going to go with the "mash straff buttons while holding down the trigger" definition of skill?
Doireen Kaundur wrote:Garia666 wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Not if Star Citizen kills it first! This, EVE has been on the top of space MMO for the last 11 years. Star Citizen will take allot of members out of EVE Actually EVE has been the only spaced based MMO in these respects: -sandbox play -one shard universe -functioning in game economy with an economist at the helm. -not a franchise hack (Starwars/StarTrek..so on) So the reality is that EVE has had a monopoly which may explain its long life. 10+ years With other spaced based games on the horizon, CCP may see some real competition for once. Which may explain also why the plug was pulled on WOD. If you run the risk of losing your base EVE players, why cater to the emo-vamipire crowd? I dont have all the facts on SC, but if it incorporates any of the above, CCP will not be able to rest on its laurels much longer and some serious content will have to be produced to retain the EVE player.
Besides your One True Scottsman style of arguing EVE has a monopoly, there are some issues with this post.
Specifically, your idea that content needs to be produced. You see, in EVE, players provide the content. The politics, the drama, the stories, they are player driven. EVE is wildly successful (yes, it really is) because of this.
This was also a good decision on CCP's part because players will interact and produce more content than they could ever imagine. This means they can spend resources on maintaining the game, and working on long lasting new tools for the sandbox instead of on adding new dungeons and epic loots.
EVE is a great example of simple being less is more. CCP adds relatively little new content, and mainly plays referee by re-balancing things when the game starts to stagnate. It is up to the players to give the sandbox meaning, not CCP.
However, as you have pointed out, less advanced MMO companies have a different development strategy: http://youtu.be/zFVwUBgqrAc?t=1m19s Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Tear Jar
The Conference Elite CODE.
99
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:58:00 -
[55] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:If Valkyie is a big hit (which i suspect it will be), will it kill EVE?
Or is the longterm plan to make Valkyrie, EVE 2.0?
If all the sandbox elements of EVE are transferred to Valk, it may.
Your thoughts?
I think it will kill Eve in the same way Dust and WoD are, but wasting resources that could improve their one good game. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1531
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:00:00 -
[56] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:Garia666 wrote:Shederov Blood wrote:Not if Star Citizen kills it first! This, EVE has been on the top of space MMO for the last 11 years. Star Citizen will take allot of members out of EVE Actually EVE has been the only spaced based MMO in these respects: -sandbox play -one shard universe -functioning in game economy with an economist at the helm. -not a franchise hack (Starwars/StarTrek..so on) So the reality is that EVE has had a monopoly which may explain its long life. 10+ years With other spaced based games on the horizon, CCP may see some real competition for once. Which may explain also why the plug was pulled on WOD. If you run the risk of losing your base EVE players, why cater to the emo-vamipire crowd? I dont have all the facts on SC, but if it incorporates any of the above, CCP will not be able to rest on its laurels much longer and some serious content will have to be produced to retain the EVE player. You know I might agree with this if SC didn't amount to just vaporware. But here are the facts, as they stand:
-Star Citizen has been in development for three years. -The developers of SC have fleeced their customer base to the tune of $40 million+. -All they have to show for it are buggy tech demos. -These tech demos end with "I'm sorry, it was working a lot better 12 hours ago." and "Let's have some drinks or something."
Three years, 40 million dollars, and they don't even have the basic core gameplay in a functional state? What have they been doing the entire time, snorting recreational substances off a stripper's posterior? |
Doireen Kaundur
728
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:04:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote: Three years, 40 million dollars, and they don't even have the basic core gameplay in a functional state? What have they been doing the entire time, snorting recreational substances off a stripper's posterior?
good point A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
376
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:22:00 -
[58] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:[quote=Garia666][quote=Shederov Blood] Actually EVE has been the only spaced based MMO in these respects:
-sandbox play -one shard universe -functioning in game economy with an economist at the helm. -not a franchise hack (Starwars/StarTrek..so on)
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SC is not a sandbox. From what I have looked it, it has restrictive play, its not open. The world is not even open, its instantanced and change based. I.E. if I go to planet a there is a chance I will meet player c or an npc.
SC is not a single server. Its sharded. You can also have your own server and puts mods on it, so they say, this may appeal to some.
SC is NOT an open economy, its NPC based. NPC supples the demand, and you use NPC nodes to make crap for the NPC's.
SC IS not a franchine hack.
SC is more like WoW then EvE tbh |
Zeera Tomb-Raider
Card Shark Industries
13
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:30:00 -
[59] - Quote
Solecist Project wrote:I'm the only one here looking forward to the first ever virtual reality spaceshooter?
Just drop the crap for once.
Who didn't want exactly that?
I regret is that I didn't buy a devkit in time. tru pvp dont apeal to eve players calling them self pvp pilots !!!! |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5603
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:38:00 -
[60] - Quote
Zeera Tomb-Raider wrote:Solecist Project wrote:I'm the only one here looking forward to the first ever virtual reality spaceshooter?
Just drop the crap for once.
Who didn't want exactly that?
I regret is that I didn't buy a devkit in time. tru pvp dont apeal to eve players calling them self pvp pilots !!!! If you think that "tru pvp" consists of artifically balanced and completely equal foes going up against one another in pre arranged honor duels for cute little prizes... well... there are plenty of other games out there that will appeal to you.
However in this neck of the woods we prefer to rely on our own wits, and use all of the tools and every possible advantage available to further our own agenda.
All we ask is that the same tool set be available to everyone. That way our victories, and our defeats, actually mean something... and the guy derping around AFK in a poorly fit ship dies because he needlessly put HIMSELF in that foolish position. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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Jallukola
25
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Posted - 2014.04.18 21:47:00 -
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With forced Facebook integration? Pffhhah! Yeah no. The greatest battle music of all time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67MPxnPHBNk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16RCvtziXj0
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5080
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:43:00 -
[62] - Quote
PotatoOverdose wrote: Three years, 40 million dollars, and they don't even have the basic core gameplay in a functional state? What have they been doing the entire time, snorting recreational substances off a stripper's posterior?
Shameless plug to my favorite kickstarted project, but conversely The Repopulation has been in development for about 18 months, has received less than a million dollars, and has a functioning alpha build.
It's also a sandbox MMO with design elements from Star Wars Galaxies, Ultima Online, and our very own EVE. As opposed to a glorified single player game.
The game allows you to found "player factions" separate from the NPC factions, and conquer and terraform your own areas. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1703
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:45:00 -
[63] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote: Three years, 40 million dollars, and they don't even have the basic core gameplay in a functional state? What have they been doing the entire time, snorting recreational substances off a stripper's posterior?
Shameless plug to my favorite kickstarted project, but conversely The Repopulation has been in development for about 18 months, has received less than a million dollars, and has a functioning alpha build. It's also a sandbox MMO with design elements from Star Wars Galaxies, Ultima Online, and our very own EVE. As opposed to a glorified single player game. The game allows you to found "player factions" separate from the NPC factions, and conquer and terraform your own areas.
Amazing. In other words they have done more with less money and time than SC, and with a grander scope for their game too.
It truly does make me wonder what a typical day at the SC development studio looks like. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
5083
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Posted - 2014.04.18 22:48:00 -
[64] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote: Three years, 40 million dollars, and they don't even have the basic core gameplay in a functional state? What have they been doing the entire time, snorting recreational substances off a stripper's posterior?
Shameless plug to my favorite kickstarted project, but conversely The Repopulation has been in development for about 18 months, has received less than a million dollars, and has a functioning alpha build. It's also a sandbox MMO with design elements from Star Wars Galaxies, Ultima Online, and our very own EVE. As opposed to a glorified single player game. The game allows you to found "player factions" separate from the NPC factions, and conquer and terraform your own areas. Amazing. In other words they have done more with less money and time than SC, and with a grander scope for their game too. It truly does make me wonder what a typical day at the SC development studio looks like.
Much as it pains me to link to tumblr, I think it might look something like this. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
12482
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:22:00 -
[65] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:masternerdguy wrote:
Amazing. In other words they have done more with less money and time than SC, and with a grander scope for their game too.
It truly does make me wonder what a typical day at the SC development studio looks like.
Much as it pains me to link to tumblr, I think it might look something like this.
Guys, If we make it to my 50 million stretch goal, I release another ship to look at in your hangar! Itll only cost you another 175 dollars! Don't forget, the alpha version of the dogfighting module will be released later this wee...mont....yea.... errr..sometime before 2018. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4705
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:23:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:masternerdguy wrote:
Amazing. In other words they have done more with less money and time than SC, and with a grander scope for their game too.
It truly does make me wonder what a typical day at the SC development studio looks like.
Much as it pains me to link to tumblr, I think it might look something like this. Guys, If we make it to my 50 million stretch goal, I release another ship to look at in your hangar! Itll only cost you another 175 dollars! Don't forget, the alpha version of the dogfighting module will be released later this wee...mont....yea.... errr..sometime before 2018.
Did they ever get their space toilet to work?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1708
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:42:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:masternerdguy wrote:
Amazing. In other words they have done more with less money and time than SC, and with a grander scope for their game too.
It truly does make me wonder what a typical day at the SC development studio looks like.
Much as it pains me to link to tumblr, I think it might look something like this. Guys, If we make it to my 50 million stretch goal, I release another ship to look at in your hangar! Itll only cost you another 175 dollars! Don't forget, the alpha version of the dogfighting module will be released later this wee...mont....yea.... errr..sometime before 2018. Did they ever get their space toilet to work?
Well, they got it to flush. Not that it always flushes in the same direction. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4706
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:44:00 -
[68] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:masternerdguy wrote:
Amazing. In other words they have done more with less money and time than SC, and with a grander scope for their game too.
It truly does make me wonder what a typical day at the SC development studio looks like.
Much as it pains me to link to tumblr, I think it might look something like this. Guys, If we make it to my 50 million stretch goal, I release another ship to look at in your hangar! Itll only cost you another 175 dollars! Don't forget, the alpha version of the dogfighting module will be released later this wee...mont....yea.... errr..sometime before 2018. Did they ever get their space toilet to work? Well, they got it to flush. Not that it always flushes in the same direction.
And to think i didn't get in on the ground floor of that.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Marsha Mallow
265
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:46:00 -
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Maybe Valk and 3D based gameplay is the future of all gaming. Why see it as killing anything, it's just another step.
I'd prefer a nicer headset personally - and given how fast tech moves I reckon we'll see one soon. There's no reason to think gaming companies can't adapt to the trend rather than be killed by it. I think it's sensible in some ways for CCP to grab it early on, although risky given their track record with new projects. Why didn't they adopt OR for elements of an existing game first, i.e. Dust?
Having said that I'd have more faith in EA than FB to churn out anything viable via Occulus now. I've a feeling the tech will be swiped up and developed by someone else, better. - |
masternerdguy
Dominion Task Force
1708
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:50:00 -
[70] - Quote
Marsha Mallow wrote:Maybe Valk and 3D based gameplay is the future of all gaming..
I've heard this for a long time but it keeps coming back to 3 problems
- Hardware is specialized and expensive
- You look like a creep wearing it
- They are physically heavy. This makes them awkward to use for long periods. Neck and back strain mainly.
These are still unsolved problems. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Marsha Mallow
265
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Posted - 2014.04.18 23:57:00 -
[71] - Quote
masternerdguy wrote:I've heard this for a long time but it keeps coming back to 3 problems
- Hardware is specialized and expensive
- You look like a creep wearing it
- They are physically heavy. This makes them awkward to use for long periods. Neck and back strain mainly.
These are still unsolved problems. Yep. Even tho Valk looks fun no way am I even considering it with that headset. There are other options floating about though, like google glasses. I hate to say it, but I think the market catalyst on this will be either be Apple or TV studios. Maybe **** producers :P If we all end up wearing Riddick style goggles I'm good with that, but it needs to be small, light and cool looking for true mass appeal. Even if the tech is on a beltclip or w/e and all you have over your eyes are screens. - |
Skurja Volpar
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
87
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Posted - 2014.04.19 00:43:00 -
[72] - Quote
With regards to SC, the bigger the hype train gets, the less enthused I am, especialy seeing as how reluctant the devs seem to be to show some actual game. Elite dangerous seems like a safer hope for a decent space sim.
And so far Valkyrie is a nice piece of new software to compliment a nice piece of new hardware, not an alternative to the fedid corrosive swamp of pride and failiure that is Internet Spaceships In Space. |
Barbara Nichole
Cryogenic Consultancy
570
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Posted - 2014.04.19 04:54:00 -
[73] - Quote
no... it won't. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á-
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1273
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Posted - 2014.04.19 04:57:00 -
[74] - Quote
Skurja Volpar wrote:With regards to SC, the bigger the hype train gets, the less enthused I am, especialy seeing as how reluctant the devs seem to be to show some actual game. Elite dangerous seems like a safer hope for a decent space sim.
And so far Valkyrie is a nice piece of new software to compliment a nice piece of new hardware, not an alternative to the fedid corrosive swamp of pride and failiure that is Internet Spaceships In Space.
but we like our swamp, nice and fetid and corrosive
fortunately it has no rodents of unnatural size |
DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
378
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Posted - 2014.04.19 05:13:00 -
[75] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:masternerdguy wrote:
Amazing. In other words they have done more with less money and time than SC, and with a grander scope for their game too.
It truly does make me wonder what a typical day at the SC development studio looks like.
Much as it pains me to link to tumblr, I think it might look something like this. Guys, If we make it to my 50 million stretch goal, I release another ship to look at in your hangar! Itll only cost you another 175 dollars! Don't forget, the alpha version of the dogfighting module will be released later this wee...mont....yea.... errr..sometime before 2018.
Don;t forget if you want into the dog fight module you gotta pay for it! |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
11724
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Posted - 2014.04.19 05:54:00 -
[76] - Quote
If there was any slightest worry that [insert game here] would kill EVE you'd see all the pilots fleeing already.
/c
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Kuronaga
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
229
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Posted - 2014.04.19 07:26:00 -
[77] - Quote
Valkyrie will be available to a very select crowd of people who actually have an interest in the hardware and the money to justify spending it on what is basically a one-launch-game platform.
I think you're all going to be surprised at how small that crowd actually is.
Let me put it to you this way... Dust will be several times more popular. DUST. |
Johm Luck
Perkone Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:11:00 -
[78] - Quote
Should get valk pilots to fly eve fighters. |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
5030
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:40:00 -
[79] - Quote
Shederov Blood wrote:Not if Star Citizen kills it first! When it becomes more than vaporware, maybe it might be a threat. Then again I am not sure EVE will be around for the year 2059. . |
Salvos Rhoska
1110
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:46:00 -
[80] - Quote
Does Valkyrie interact with EVE at all? ------------ |
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Talon SilverHawk
Ronin Cartel The G0dfathers
660
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Posted - 2014.04.19 23:43:00 -
[81] - Quote
Na, they will probably cancel development before release anyway...
Tal
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Zarcan
GeoCorp. Curatores Veritatis Alliance
48
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Posted - 2014.04.20 01:15:00 -
[82] - Quote
If anything it seems like another side project that leads in as another way to get new demographics of people to check out Eve. |
Markku Laaksonen
EVE University Ivy League
447
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Posted - 2014.04.20 02:05:00 -
[83] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Why would it? And how could it? The two aren't even the same genre of game.
I commonly play different genres of games simultaneously. Or so it would seem to the untrained observer. I actually move through the space-time continuum to play all my games within a neat two hour window that ensures my marriage remains in tact and that I have a meaningful role in my children's life. Inventing time travel was a small task for being able to play all my precious games.
Everyone knows that different genres of games don't compete with each other. You know. For your time. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/
EVE Buddy Invite - https://secure.eveonline.com/trial/?invc=047203f1-4124-42a1-b36f-39ca8ae5d6e2&action=buddy
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Butzewutze
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2014.04.20 02:12:00 -
[84] - Quote
I am sure it will be a blast and a really big change in the history of gaming exactly like dust 514 is... erm wait... |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5605
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:49:00 -
[85] - Quote
Kuronaga wrote:Valkyrie will be available to a very select crowd of people who actually have an interest in the hardware and the money to justify spending it on what is basically a one-launch-game platform.
I think you're all going to be surprised at how small that crowd actually is.
Let me put it to you this way... Dust will be several times more popular. DUST. You do realize how many games have already incorporated Rift support right? Hell, even just getting a percentage of War Thunder pilots (many of whom are making due with less advanced yet expensive gear) that want a change of pace will bring a very large player base.
And before you make some remark about the WW2 simulator crowd not being interested in SciFi, you might ask around to see how many EVE players also play World of Tanks or War Thunder. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
616
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Posted - 2014.04.21 21:55:00 -
[86] - Quote
With this post I have five in a row. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1594
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Posted - 2014.04.21 22:27:00 -
[87] - Quote
If I recall correctly, Valkyrie will not *require* rift, rather people that do have a rift will simply have an amazingly immersive gaming experience. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1304
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Posted - 2014.04.21 23:30:00 -
[88] - Quote
Star conflict has already tooled up for occulus rift, running on rift is not exactly an exclusive bragging right. It's a bandwagon and probably won't catch on. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1216
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Posted - 2014.04.21 23:51:00 -
[89] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:If Valkyie is a big hit (which i suspect it will be), will it kill EVE?
Or is the longterm plan to make Valkyrie, EVE 2.0?
If all the sandbox elements of EVE are transferred to Valk, it may.
Your thoughts? I hope it kills EVE, put the game out of its misery before it goes the same wretched, ill-begotten path of Star Wars Galaxies |
Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1692
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Posted - 2014.04.22 00:16:00 -
[90] - Quote
"...not with 10,000 men could you do this."
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Felicity Love
Whore and Peace
1692
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Posted - 2014.04.22 00:18:00 -
[91] - Quote
Doireen Kaundur wrote:If Valkyie is a big hit (which i suspect it will be), will it kill EVE?
Or is the longterm plan to make Valkyrie, EVE 2.0?
If all the sandbox elements of EVE are transferred to Valk, it may.
Your thoughts?
It's hard enough getting people to undock and show up for fights as it is... very much doubt that a FPS "dogfighter" game is going to improve that situation whatsoever beyond the initial novelty wearing off.
... and I was just saying the other day, "Damn, I miss Soundwave"....
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Winchester Steele
1055
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Posted - 2014.04.22 01:46:00 -
[92] - Quote
Being half-blind I won't be able to use Oculus :(. So it looks like it will just be us cripples, the Mittani, Chribba and James 315 left. And of course, the tinfoil brigade tells me that those are all just alts of the same person,so I guess it will just be me. Forever alone. ... |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
9396
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Posted - 2014.04.22 03:40:00 -
[93] - Quote
Dorian Tormak wrote:Gogela wrote:Doireen Kaundur wrote:Will Valkyrie kill EVE? No. /thread This, and also when I search for Valkyrie nothing really comes up and when I search "Valkyrie space game" still nothing really comes up so this game is **** and not even comparable to Eve. The game isn't even out yet, holy **** people. No it's not going to kill EVE, that's ********. It's not a competitor to EVE (it would be stupid if it were since CCP is making it). Star Citizen is not going to kill EVE either. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
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Arancar Australis
Dead Sun Rising Enterprises
93
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Posted - 2014.04.22 04:05:00 -
[94] - Quote
Of course it won't kill Eve, as it will be used to expand the Eve experience by opening...
The Door!!
Yes with it, you will finally be able to see what is on the other side of The Door. You will be able walk through the station, interact with the denizens that dwell within, while all those who have refused to buy it, will be forever doomed to stare at The Door and ponder what wonders lie behind it.
This will be annouced at the upcoming Fanfest...you read it here first!!
Cheers,
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