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Doireen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:50:00 -
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If Valkyie is a big hit (which i suspect it will be), will it kill EVE?
Or is the longterm plan to make Valkyrie, EVE 2.0?
If all the sandbox elements of EVE are transferred to Valk, it may.
Your thoughts? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Forum Clone 77777
Do You Even Irony Broew
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:52:00 -
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Isnt valkyrie just a sort of FPS or FPSSS (First Person SpaceShip Shooter) game? How is this in any way comparable to EVE? |
Doireen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:53:00 -
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Forum Clone 77777 wrote:Isnt valkyrie just a sort of FPS or FPSSS (First Person SpaceShip Shooter) game? How is this in any way comparable to EVE?
That is how it's being advertised, but I suspect it will be much bigger than that. A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:54:00 -
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Really?
YBTL
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:54:00 -
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Considering that Facebook has already killed Valkyrie, I doubt it. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
-áPsychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:55:00 -
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Why would it? And how could it? The two aren't even the same genre of game. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Doireen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:57:00 -
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So we know for a fact that Valk will have no sandbox elements to it? It's strictly just a shooter? A great American humorist and author recently said: "The one unintentional flaw of the internet generation is its ability to give the stupidest segments of our population the loudest voices." I have a tendency to agree with his statement.-á |
Serene Repose
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:58:00 -
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EVE is dead! EVE is dead! Long live EVE! I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:58:00 -
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Not if Star Citizen kills it first! |
Forum Clone 77777
Do You Even Irony Broew
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Posted - 2014.04.18 12:58:00 -
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Doireen Kaundur wrote:Forum Clone 77777 wrote:Isnt valkyrie just a sort of FPS or FPSSS (First Person SpaceShip Shooter) game? How is this in any way comparable to EVE? That is how it's being advertised, but I suspect it will be much bigger than that. When your local grocery store advertises that you can get 2 apples for the price of 1, do you also come in suspecting youl get even more than that?
If thats the case, youl be dissappointed, advertisements advertise one thing, not something else. There is absolutely no reason to think Valkyrie will be more than what it is, Im not saying its not possible, EVE is also alot more than it was when it was released. But to think Valkyrie will take over the role of EVE is absurd. |
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Maximillan Lancaster
Alpha Traders
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:26:00 -
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IF Valkyrie is a big hit.
Keyword: If. |
Catherine Wolfisheim
Terran Republican Guard
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:28:00 -
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I don't think so, Valkyrie will probably attract a number of EVE Online players as Dust 514 did as it has its own appeal, but in essence it's a different game. If the EVE Online players wanted to switch entirely kind of games then they would do so. That's not the case, since you are bringing up one kind of game with another that is different. ~ C.W.
G£¬ Personal Blog http://catherine-wolfisheim.tumblr.com |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:29:00 -
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The only thing that will kill EVE is highsec. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:43:00 -
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Eve'l Dead: 10th Anniversary |
Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2014.04.18 13:54:00 -
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Valkyrie is just a gimmick to sell Oculus... and Facebook... ------------ |
Solecist Project
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:04:00 -
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I'm the only one here looking forward to the first ever virtual reality spaceshooter?
Just drop the crap for once.
Who didn't want exactly that?
I regret is that I didn't buy a devkit in time. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:04:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Valkyrie is just a gimmick to sell Oculus... and Facebook... Close.
Valkyrie is a gimmick to sell Oculus. Facebook bought Oculus as a gimmick to sell 3D cameras so that people can share 3D images and video of their kids as a gimmick for giving people a reason to continue using Facebook. Also, an Oculus user can see more adverts than a flatscreen or cell phone user. Also, who here doesn't want to upload a facebook picture of Grandma wearing an Oculus while using facebook?
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:10:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I'm the only one here looking forward to the first ever virtual reality spaceshooter?
Just drop the crap for once.
Who didn't want exactly that?
I regret is that I didn't buy a devkit in time.
I would be nice if the equipment to play it was less expensive. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |
samualvimes
Quantum Cats Syndicate Repeat 0ffenders
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:20:00 -
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While the idea of facebook owning the oculus is not exactly great it does mean that there is a lot less chance I might buy one and ONLY ever use it for Valkyrie.
Double edged sword.
Could be great. could be bad.
Will Wait
Will See
However Eve could not run in the same server style as Valkyrie owing to the 1hz server tick, If you've never tried PvP in EvE it's quite possible you've missed out on one of the greatest rushes available in modern gaming. |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
1269
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:21:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Valkyrie is just a gimmick to sell Oculus... and Facebook... Close. Valkyrie is a gimmick to sell Oculus. Facebook bought Oculus as a gimmick to sell 3D cameras so that people can share 3D images and video of their kids as a gimmick for giving people a reason to continue using Facebook. Also, an Oculus user can see more adverts than a flatscreen or cell phone user. Also, who here doesn't want to upload a facebook picture of Grandma wearing an Oculus while using facebook?
naah the future is 3d cats wearing occulus goggles chasing red dots |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2014.04.18 14:21:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Valkyrie is just a gimmick to sell Oculus... and Facebook... Close. Valkyrie is a gimmick to sell Oculus. Facebook bought Oculus as a gimmick to sell 3D cameras so that people can share 3D images and video of their kids as a gimmick for giving people a reason to continue using Facebook. Also, an Oculus user can see more adverts than a flatscreen or cell phone user. Also, who here doesn't want to upload a facebook picture of Grandma wearing an Oculus while using facebook?
Humor aside, just in case people take your post too seriously, no Valkyrie was not developed to sell Oculus. Valkyrie was developed because a few CCP developers though the Oculus was cool.
I'll also remind people that no matter how much you hate Facebook, the same people are still developing Oculus... the same guy is running the company. Facebook is simply funding development, and is likely looking to diversify as the popularity of Facebook wanes with some age groups.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:31:00 -
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No *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Gabriel Z
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:52:00 -
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I can tell that most of you have not been keeping up with Valkyrie news. One of the devs/producers, in an interview, explicitly stated that Valkyrie would have grinding (he didn't put it like that of course) elements. There will be PvE for income.
There's no way to prove it, except waiting, but I think they are planning ahead for EVE's eventual demise. They want something with broader appeal and participation. |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Council of Peace and Prosperity
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:54:00 -
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Gabriel Z wrote: explicitly stated that Valkyrie would have grinding
Im not sure what you are saying *** Vote MTU For CSM *** ***Free The Jita 1*** "They feel the need to cover their ears and eyes in horror at your very presence." - Pontianak Sythaeryn "Despite others being missing, at least Ramona is back." - Scipio Artelius |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:58:00 -
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Gabriel Z wrote:One of the devs/producers, in an interview, explicitly stated that Valkyrie would have grinding (he didn't put it like that of course) elements. There will be PvE for income. So what did he say, if not exactly that? And what does it have to do with anything? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
161
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Posted - 2014.04.18 15:59:00 -
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****, I left my tinfoil hat on that other thread about eve's death. This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165 |
Dominic karin
Trojan Legion Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:05:00 -
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No. Valkrye is nothing like Eve and Eve's gameplay can't be applied to a first person combat game, it just doesn't work. |
Cassandra Aurilien
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:15:00 -
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No. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a grand plan in the back of CCP's mind about merging Valkyrie, EVE & Dust (or their successors) at some distant point in the future, though. I don't think current tech would support it. Who knows what 10 years could bring?
At some point, they'll almost certainly have to look at rewriting the legacy code of EVE. When they do that, I wouldn't be surprised if they put some new options on the table. When will that happen? I certainly don't know. |
Tarpedo
Incursionista
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:40:00 -
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No, simulators are the least interesting genre for MMO and most of them are struggling to survive - they require too much energy to play and at the same time gameplay is tedious and repetitive + becomes boring soon, most players abandon them quickly.
No wonder 70% of player in the *other spaceship* game voted for exploration as their activity of choice - which was surprise to the devs who expected "PvE" to be the most popular. It turns out nobody give a damn about space simulation - people want exploration, beautiful vistas, occasional quick PvE and very rare PvP encounters from spaceship games. |
stoicfaux
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Posted - 2014.04.18 16:44:00 -
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Dominic karin wrote:No. Valkrye is nothing like Eve and Eve's gameplay can't be applied to a first person combat game, it just doesn't work. Bullshit. Are you really trying to tell us that it's impossible to render an F1 key in 3D in Oculus?
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