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Lord Sid
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:01:00 -
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This is a question for the devs. I'm curious roughly how much ISK is distributed in the eve-verse. I know it must constantly be changing.
Also how much is lost each day through ISK sinks? Like taxes, insurance, and clones? -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=- |
Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:03:00 -
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I would guess at 1000 to 2000 billion isk.
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur I would guess at 1000 to 2000 billion isk.
Based on...?
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Jacobz
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:11:00 -
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Edited by: Jacobz on 07/05/2006 17:12:57 100-150 trillion seems like a better estimate. Billionaires is not the norm but a growing proportion in 0.0 + all the corp-alliance money. Im saying this because I know a couple of 50+ billion fortunes people and I'm sure I don't know everyone :)
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:13:00 -
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Well, i have 1 isk.... what do you guys have?
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fmercury
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Sid This is a question for the devs. I'm curious roughly how much ISK is distributed in the eve-verse. I know it must constantly be changing.
Also how much is lost each day through ISK sinks? Like taxes, insurance, and clones?
Insurance is not an isk sink. In fact, it is quite the opposite
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Lord Sid
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:25:00 -
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You don't make money on insurance, therefor it's an ISK sink, especially when it runs out and you haven't blown up your ship.
This is why I don't normally insure. -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=- |
Skaz
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:27:00 -
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I'd simply say "a lot" and leave the matter there... - -
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Nyphur I would guess at 1000 to 2000 billion isk.
Based on...?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=guess
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lofty29
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Nyphur I would guess at 1000 to 2000 billion isk.
Based on...?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=guess
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Nymos
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Nymos on 07/05/2006 17:32:11
Originally by: Lord Sid You don't make money on insurance, therefor it's an ISK sink, especially when it runs out and you haven't blown up your ship.
This is why I don't normally insure.
from the point of view of the whole economy it is NOT an isk sink. if you buy the ship ISK is just handed over to someone else. no isk generated. if the ship blows up you get isk from an npc. therefore, new money flows in the economy.
EDIT: yes, if insurance expires its an isk sink... that, however, doesnt fit in the idea of insurance
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Lord Sid
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:39:00 -
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It fits the exact idea of insurance.
You pay ISK to insure that you are compensated if your ship is blown in a time period. If your ship doesn't blow up you don't get that isk back.
You pay money for term life insurance and you don't die in that term you, nor your family, will get that money.
Insurance is a scam RL and ingame. It's to protect(READ: take advantage of) people who are too short sighted to provide for themself. -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=- |
Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:53:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur I would guess at 1000 to 2000 billion isk.
I think you are wrong by orders of magnitude :/
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Wrangler
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: lofty29
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Wrangler
Originally by: Nyphur I would guess at 1000 to 2000 billion isk.
Based on...?
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=guess
OooOooOoo wrangler got burned!
Nah, I was just proving a point, most posts giving any figures here are just uneducated guesses. Meaning people take numbers from nothing and post them, which doesn't really serve any purpose. If someone would post their reasoning it would probably be a guess at best, maybe an educated guess. But I doubt it, considering they would at least need a lot of statistics only available to CCP. And if you had access to those statistics, you'd probably know more exactly anyway.
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Lord Sid
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Posted - 2006.05.07 17:58:00 -
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That's why the question was directed at the Devs and not players. The reason I posted it here is so dialogue may also go with it and the information(if supplied) be available to all.
But unsurprisingly players felt like guessing anyways. -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=- |
Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.05.07 18:00:00 -
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Doesn't matter, I'm full of crap anyway. Would be interesting to know the actual value, if only to see how wrong I am.
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Lord Sid
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Posted - 2006.05.07 18:05:00 -
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Personally I'm having a hard time fathoming it, that's why I asked.
Be interesting to compare it to the US National Debt, also. -=Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds=- |
Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.05.07 18:07:00 -
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I'd guess a minimum of 100 trillion.
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Samirol
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Posted - 2006.05.07 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Sid Insurance is a scam RL and ingame. It's to protect(READ: take advantage of) people who are too short sighted to provide for themself.
TIN FOIL HAT TIME!!! All my ships blow up before 3 months, and paying 20m to get 100m total means i make 80m going to my next ship.
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Alessandra Grey
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Posted - 2006.05.07 18:22:00 -
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The truth is that the monetary base is truly limitless. If given the correct data, one could extrapolate how much ISK is in circulation at any given second in EVE, however, that amount would change from one moment to the next. Recall that while money is invested in assets and sitting in wallets, there is a steady stream of new ISK being put on the market through pirate respawns and mission bounties. Combine that with an ever-fluctuating in-game population going about their economic business and there is absolutely no possible way of knowing how much ISK is in circulation. _______________________ ...Greetings, Starfighter. You have been recruited by the Star League to defend the frontier against Xur and the Kodan Armada... |
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Krashtest
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Posted - 2006.05.07 18:29:00 -
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My final answer to the original question is "All of it !!"
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Lord Sid
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Posted - 2006.05.07 18:36:00 -
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It's pretty simple, do a sum of all personal and corp wallets.
That doesn't give you any idea of assets, but that's not what I was asking.
Of course that sum will only be acurate for the moment that it is queried, but that's close enough for me.
Everything in EVE is tracked in a database, pretty easy, Dev's willing, to get said info.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2006.05.07 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Sid It's pretty simple, do a sum of all personal and corp wallets.
That doesn't give you any idea of assets, but that's not what I was asking.
Of course that sum will only be acurate for the moment that it is queried, but that's close enough for me.
Everything in EVE is tracked in a database, pretty easy, Dev's willing, to get said info.
Wouldnt say alot i think. Money is pretty worthless in the wallet... they need to be invested in assets to grow.
At this point in time, i have only 7% of my money in the wallet.
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Syrec
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Posted - 2006.05.07 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Lord Sid You don't make money on insurance, therefor it's an ISK sink, especially when it runs out and you haven't blown up your ship.
This is why I don't normally insure.
Lots of 0.0/low sec PVP corps will mine enough materials and then make their T1 ships. Then they corp insure the ships, so when they get blown up in PVP, the corp gets ISK. Aside from the small initial insurance gain, there is only ISK gain in that process.
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Phoenix Jones
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Posted - 2006.05.07 18:59:00 -
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Lets see. 3 years of Eve, First year probably circulated some 100 billion isk, 2nd year and expansion, 100* 100 billion (or 10Trillion, 3rd Year, 200* 5 Trillion + the inclusion of T2 items (1 billion * 100,000 or 100,000,000,000,000,000). Add that to the 1,000,000,000,000 distributed outside T2 items.. and you have about 100,001,000,000,000,000.
A bit over 100,000 Trillion isk has been created/spend/and/or circulated in Eve, considering some 1000+ galaxies, insurance costs, ship building, Outposts, wars, mining, fights against pirates, loot, time spent, trading, etc etc.
Beats the US Deficit.
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.05.07 19:11:00 -
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Now work out an exchange rate with USD and figure how much the eve economy is worth in real cash.
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bumcheekcity
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Posted - 2006.05.07 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Jones Lets see. 3 years of Eve, First year probably circulated some 100 billion isk, 2nd year and expansion, 100* 100 billion (or 10Trillion, 3rd Year, 200* 5 Trillion + the inclusion of T2 items (1 billion * 100,000 or 100,000,000,000,000,000). Add that to the 1,000,000,000,000 distributed outside T2 items.. and you have about 100,001,000,000,000,000.
A bit over 100,000 Trillion isk has been created/spend/and/or circulated in Eve, considering some 1000+ galaxies, insurance costs, ship building, Outposts, wars, mining, fights against pirates, loot, time spent, trading, etc etc.
Dont forget, the market doesnt create ISK at all, these things (for example) create/destroy ISK.
CREATE: - Killing a NPC or PC with a bounty. - Insurance Payout - NPC Buy Orders
DESTROY: - Paying Insurance - Repairing Ships - NPC Sell orders (especially, I should suppose, BPOs) -- Interseted in skills? Necessary Skills
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.07 20:03:00 -
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There is currently 392,834,453,353,142 ISK total in player accounts in EVE, including corp wallets.
There is also a Veld roid the size of a planet in a dead-end highsec system about 9 jumps from kisago, which you go through 2 lowsec systems to reach (gee I wonder why local there is always 0 ).
One of the two statemesnts I gave is true. The other is partially true.
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Elisabeth
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Posted - 2006.05.07 20:15:00 -
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Cant help myself the answer is "42"
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Jatonix
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Posted - 2006.05.07 20:19:00 -
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imo, something between 15,000-100,000 billion isk, simply because of the ammount of trading, rat hunting, missions, escrow etc etc that goes on ____________________________________________
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