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Regis Solo
The Scope Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:23:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Regis Solo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Regis Solo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:All I know is, I'm not buckling up for another few hundred pages of mouth frothing qq'ing. Thank you, CCP, for stating what we already knew and 100% support. Yes a CCP cave in to the power block Call it what you want. They're not going to satisfy your craving for Ero's blood because it's against their policy to discuss the details of specific cases. They NEVER EVER EVER EVER do it and anyone that's filed a petition against anyone knows this. You don't get to know what happens, no one does. It'll probably become public knowledge soon enough IF Ero or sohkar get a ban out of this but, it won't be CCP telling you because they never will and never have. That's their policy, and no one gets special circumstances. Deal with it and move on. If you're going to quit over this policy, then do so. I assure you it will be a minority of you actually qq'ing. I'm not quitting asshat Reported for personal attack. I reckon the ISD's will be watching this thread closely this time.
Maybe you should refrain from asking me to leave the game. |
PinkPanter
The Scope Gallente Federation
178
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:24:00 -
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Danalee wrote:How much for PinkPanter? D.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4379276#post4379276 |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5591
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:24:00 -
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PinkPanter wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:PinkPanter wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:PinkPanter wrote:So move along pretty much.
Ok.
Watch my accounts.
Later.
*** not a rage quit. Just disagreement and something I do not want to affiliate myself with. Holla at ya. Don't forget to tell us how many accounts so I know how many new accounts to sub to compensate. Go cry more noob lol. And **** yeah I'll give my stuff away :) To all the nice people I know of course So wait. You post telling ccp you are quitting the game (thus costing them money, which is a lie of course, you won't quit)) because they didn't do what you wanted them to and somehow that turns into 'me' crying. I know you Ero haters were out there, but damn lol. No, I'm selling my toons to convert them to ISK, giving ISK to my friends so they can continue doing what they like and I quit. It's actually that simple. Sometimes in life you disagree with things and you can either choke it up or move. Nothing extraordinary here. My point is sometimes you need to make a statement or set a rule that will be clear to all and in best interest of the whole community. CCP goes vague again and that's where my road parts. I don't have that MANY accounts but it's something and while I'm sure it won't make a difference to them it will to me. I stood to my principle and honestly whatever you do in life that's how you should go through it. This is just a game. One of many out there. :) Good luck to all and wish you all the best. :)
That's your right and good luck to you, but it's down right silly to quit a game because some dude who wasn't you lost some virtual things to a trickster type then made a fool of himself trying to get his stuff back. No one died here (despite the threats) and the so called victim is cool with everything.
If this sort of thing gets to you then you decision to be a denizen of the internet in any form might be kind of suspect. Life is harsh. |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3140
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:24:00 -
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Anomaly One wrote:Danalee wrote:How much for PinkPanter? D. tree fiddy
SWEET!! Only half an hour till four twenty then? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Kinis Deren
House Of Serenity. Disband.
366
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:26:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:
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CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.
Thanks for that CCP Falcon and I fully understand that discussions of any action in process (or not) cannot be undertaken.
I do gain comfort in the knowledge that CCP will use the full force of the EULA/TOS for real life harrassment - even if it is dressed up as Bonus Room in-character role playing. |
Bloodmyst Ranwar
War Toys Inc
75
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:26:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Regis Solo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Regis Solo wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:All I know is, I'm not buckling up for another few hundred pages of mouth frothing qq'ing. Thank you, CCP, for stating what we already knew and 100% support. Yes a CCP cave in to the power block Call it what you want. They're not going to satisfy your craving for Ero's blood because it's against their policy to discuss the details of specific cases. They NEVER EVER EVER EVER do it and anyone that's filed a petition against anyone knows this. You don't get to know what happens, no one does. It'll probably become public knowledge soon enough IF Ero or sohkar get a ban out of this but, it won't be CCP telling you because they never will and never have. That's their policy, and no one gets special circumstances. Deal with it and move on. If you're going to quit over this policy, then do so. I assure you it will be a minority of you actually qq'ing. I'm not quitting asshat Reported for personal attack. I reckon the ISD's will be watching this thread closely this time.
Likewise.
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
4673
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:27:00 -
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Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Hi Falcon!
I have a question for you. I brought this one up specifically in the megathread, so here we go:
Will CCP be applying it's EULA with regards to off-EVE systems. Example: Teamspeak, blogs, Skype, things of that nature.
I'm asking not so much due to the current case, but out of concern that nefarious people may decide to pretend to be someone they wish banned, off of CCP system.
Again, example. Person who hates LAF registers the blog "I_Am_LAF.com". Proceeds to write awful things, violate EULA, and other assorted bad things. Joins random voice comms under my name and spews RL harassment. Would I need to worry about that when it comes to my own account? Thanks in advance!
Hi, Lady Areola Fappington
The EULA has always affected external content to a degree, when that content is shared using our systems. For example when you post a link that contains inappropriate content, even though that content is hosted somewhere outside EVE Online, there's always been potential for disciplinary action. We haven't changed any policies but we do reserve the right, as we always have, to revoke access to our services if they are being used to facilitate something, or share something, that violates our terms of service. CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |-á@ccp_guard |
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El Space Mariachi
Love Squad Pasta Syndicate
51
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:28:00 -
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can i get banned for telling my alliance mates to go to h-e-double hockey sticks (not that i would blaspheme) in jabber or on teamspeak if they report it . |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3140
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:28:00 -
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Regis Solo wrote:
Maybe you should refrain from asking me to leave the game.
I never asked you to leave the game. I said, and you can read the exact words above, "If you're going to quit..."
"If you're going to quit" =/= "Please quit" You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
1796
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:29:00 -
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I agree with CCPs decision on this one, and I will be paying attention to this thread to see if anyone was banned.
In game scamming should always be apart of EVE, and it should never change.
Harassment should never exhist on or offline. I really hope that people did get a ban. This nor any community does not need people like this. I'm my opinion lines where crossed, even though what happened was out of game and thus shouldn't be subjected to in game consequences. But, in this particular case, in game assets were used in the events that occurred outside of game. Which should be handled as if it did occur in game.
New player experience, more highsec PvE missions, casual play, balance, counters to AFK cloaking, expanding the NEX store, and Power Projection.
Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9! |
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Danalee
Oberon Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
767
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:29:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:
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CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.
Thanks for that CCP Falcon and I fully understand that discussions of any action in process (or not) cannot be undertaken. I do gain comfort in the knowledge that CCP will use the full force of the EULA/TOS for real life harrassment - even if it is dressed up as Bonus Room in-character role playing.
Yes, yes. You are right, now have a cookie. I'll be in the bonus room stealing your stuff
D.
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Muestereate
Minions LLC
257
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:30:00 -
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So in other words, your doing nothing that you will speak of. Falcon, you and your crew got no balls. |
Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
2688
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:30:00 -
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In general harassment is considered socially unacceptable. Harassment does not require a game. Placing a game in between the perpetrator and the victim does not suddenly make it acceptable. Saying "It's just a game" is an invalid augment because the perpetrator is a real person in the real world and the victim is a real person in the real world. Doing the harassment over a chat channel built into a game does not suddenly make it "Not harassment". http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3140
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:30:00 -
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Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:
Likewise.
You'll have to demonstrate where I made one first. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1202
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:30:00 -
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So basically we still don't know if E1 crossed the line, or if CCP thinks that the bonus room is acceptable behavior.
What are we not allowed to do, can i ask someone to cut himself with a knife for isk?. I'm jnot saying E1 asked anyone to hurt them self, i just want to know if i risk a ban if i do. We are not talking about forcing someone, we are talking about someone doing it of their own free will.
We are clearly allowed to go a lot further then i believed ccp would accept, so where is the line we are not allowed to cross? I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous. |
Regis Solo
The Scope Gallente Federation
37
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:31:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Regis Solo wrote:
Maybe you should refrain from asking me to leave the game.
I never asked you to leave the game. I said, and you can read the exact words above, "If you're going to quit..." "If you're going to quit" =/= "Please quit"
Whatever |
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
2862
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:31:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:facilitate Just pointing out the importance of this word.
Sovereignty and Population New Mining Mechanics |
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
103
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:32:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote: I do gain comfort in the knowledge that CCP will use the full force of the EULA/TOS for real life harrassment - even if it is dressed up as Bonus Room in-character role playing.
Go inject reading comprehension. |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3140
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:32:00 -
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Regis Solo wrote:
Whatever
I remember when we were kids, that was my little sister's go-to word whenever she threw a tantrum cuz she didn't get her way. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
PinkPanter
The Scope Gallente Federation
178
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:32:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
That's your right and good luck to you, but it's down right silly to quit a game because some dude who wasn't you lost some virtual things to a trickster type then made a fool of himself trying to get his stuff back. No one died here (despite the threats) and the so called victim is cool with everything.
If this sort of thing gets to you then you decision to be a denizen of the internet in any form might be kind of suspect. Life is harsh.
I'm not quitting because of that. I have no issue with people scamming each other. I'm quitting because CCP didn't do nothing here really. And I'm not even talking about banning people just letting us know what's the bottom line. They just underlined what's already there and it's so vague that doesn't change a damn thing... Till the next one pops up, and next till something goes really bad.
That's what I don't agree with. They simply still want to be known as turbobad and cash on it till **** hits the fan.
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Brutor Brutor
Non Merchant corporation 0 tax pure capitalism
0
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:32:00 -
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A certain well known and very angry alliance leader once told me he was going to skull F-U-C-K my mother.
Can I take retroactive action against him???????????
I was VERY upset at the time of the incident. |
Kinis Deren
House Of Serenity. Disband.
366
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:33:00 -
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Danalee wrote:Kinis Deren wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:
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CCP, in collaboration with the CSM, have agreed and would like to state in the strongest possible terms and in accordance with our existing Terms of Service and End User License Agreement, that real life harassment is morally reprehensible, and verifiable examples of such behavior will be met with disciplinary action against game accounts in accordance with our Terms of Service.
Thanks for that CCP Falcon and I fully understand that discussions of any action in process (or not) cannot be undertaken. I do gain comfort in the knowledge that CCP will use the full force of the EULA/TOS for real life harrassment - even if it is dressed up as Bonus Room in-character role playing. Yes, yes. You are right, now have a cookie. I'll be in the bonus room stealing your stuff D. I'l be in space blowing your ship up instead LOL
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1737
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:33:00 -
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WooT No EvE Trammel yet.
... and sorry virtual lynch mob, no pound of flesh for you ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Kristalll
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
103
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:33:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:
Hi, Lady Areola Fappington
The EULA has always affected external content to a degree, when that content is shared using our systems. For example when you post a link that contains inappropriate content, even though that content is hosted somewhere outside EVE Online, there's always been potential for disciplinary action. We haven't changed any policies but we do reserve the right, as we always have, to revoke access to our services if they are being used to facilitate something, or share something, that violates our terms of service.
The best example of this is spies from one group (let's say CFC) are in another group (lets say PL) and see PL dudes posting **** links in a structure bash fleet, because that's what people like to do.
The spy then reports all of them and they get banned/tempbanned over offensive material that nobody actually took offense to. Manipulation of the EULA for personal vendettas. |
Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
3140
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:34:00 -
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PinkPanter wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:
That's your right and good luck to you, but it's down right silly to quit a game because some dude who wasn't you lost some virtual things to a trickster type then made a fool of himself trying to get his stuff back. No one died here (despite the threats) and the so called victim is cool with everything.
If this sort of thing gets to you then you decision to be a denizen of the internet in any form might be kind of suspect. Life is harsh.
I'm quitting because CCP didn't do nothing here really.
You don't know that for sure, though, because it's against their policy to discuss the details of specific cases, so they won't tell you either way. If you quit now, you're doing it without knowing for sure what CCP will do or have done. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Adoris Nolen
Sama Guild
49
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:34:00 -
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OH MAH LAWD
I would have donated all my isk to have been part of the bonus room as an antagonizer. Where do we signup for that? |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2108
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:34:00 -
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If Ero is still allowed to play Eve, I just hope he has realized that it is possible to go too far, and that he modifies his behaviour and enjoys his time in the game. This is not a signature. |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
1532
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:36:00 -
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CCP Guard wrote:Lady Areola Fappington wrote:Hi Falcon!
I have a question for you. I brought this one up specifically in the megathread, so here we go:
Will CCP be applying it's EULA with regards to off-EVE systems. Example: Teamspeak, blogs, Skype, things of that nature.
I'm asking not so much due to the current case, but out of concern that nefarious people may decide to pretend to be someone they wish banned, off of CCP system.
Again, example. Person who hates LAF registers the blog "I_Am_LAF.com". Proceeds to write awful things, violate EULA, and other assorted bad things. Joins random voice comms under my name and spews RL harassment. Would I need to worry about that when it comes to my own account? Thanks in advance! Hi, Lady Areola Fappington The EULA has always affected external content to a degree, when that content is shared using our systems. For example when you post a link that contains inappropriate content, even though that content is hosted somewhere outside EVE Online, there's always been potential for disciplinary action. We haven't changed any policies but we do reserve the right, as we always have, to revoke access to our services if they are being used to facilitate something, or share something, that violates our terms of service.
Hey, you're not Falcon! Falcon is the buff, manly man with the mohawk. You're the midget version of Charlie Sheen!
Makes sense, if I'm reading you right. I have nothing to worry about from a person, say, pretending to be "me" as in LAF off of EVE systems in order to cause me EULA issues. It would only hit against myself and accounts if I tied it to myself (Hey look at my ToS breaking blog! versus Hey everyone go look at this ToS breaking blog with LAFs name on it!)
This does put a hitch in my plans for a CCP Guard/Batman/Sansha Kuvakei slashfic though..... The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |
Malcolm from Marketing
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
74
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:36:00 -
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Kristalll wrote:Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:As long as Erotica isn't getting away with this without consequences. I am a happy camper.
Even more happier that it is now very crystal clear to everyone that what occurred is not tolerated by CCP.
Thank you very much CCP, faith restored. Read more closely. What was never stated is whether they think the Sohkar situation counts as harassment, and MANY people don't think it does.
And even more people think it does going on the views in the original thread.
Im not confident anything at all will happen to Erotica, this is simply a "watch your antics dont cross a line" announcement from CCP. |
Bloodmyst Ranwar
War Toys Inc
76
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Posted - 2014.03.28 13:37:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Bloodmyst Ranwar wrote:
Likewise.
You'll have to demonstrate where I made one first.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=332182&p=380
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