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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:15:00 -
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SHOW ME DA WOOLZ [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:54:00 -
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Foxstar Damaskeenus wrote:How about instead of that you publicly apologize to the person who's audio you uploaded in a disgusting attempt to do more damage to them and humiliate them further. As it happens I'm listening to the recording right now and he just said he's aware it's being recorded and will be posted publically and doesn't care. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 06:59:00 -
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Navi Annages wrote:Sir if you are indeed listening to the audio be aware there are racist, vulgar and many demeaning phrases from a player named Sohkar. Viewer Discretion is advised. Yes, I got to that part already. It was all fun and games until someone started coming out with the most thorough anti-black language I've heard outside period piece TV shows.
On the upside he did just apologise for the earlier death threats, which is something. I can't wait to hear what the last minute and thirteen seconds have in store.
Edit: Actually in that last minute he went from willing to sing two songs to quitting because he didn't want to sing about 'gay stuff' (the song's name was *****). Well, they say EVE attracts the worst people, I guess it's true. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:00:00 -
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Prie Mary wrote: As far as im aware bonus room makes no attempt to let the victim know they are being recorded at the start. Literally the first thing said in the recording is that it is being recorded. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:04:00 -
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Katkon Darnok wrote:288 = statistical significance (actually, >32 makes for a statistically significant sample size). Did you just talk about the statistical significance of a self-selecting group? Oh my. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:18:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:1) There is no evidence that the victim is even in the channel at the time it is said. 2) There is no evidence that the victim even hears that being said. 3) There is no expression of consent on the part of the victim to being recorded. 4) There is no implied consent on the part of the victim for being recorded, because it is not specifically stated by the recorder. 5) There is no expression of consent to distribution of the recording. The client also explicitly states near the end that he is aware that it is being recorded and that it will be distributed and doesn't care.
Having some basic knowledge of the topic at hand really can help you know. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:25:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:There might be a recording somewhere of someone doing something potentially illegal on a teamspeak server somewhere - prove me wrong That sure is a compelling argument. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:28:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:No doubt! But I meant on the part of the listeners. The same reason people listen to ventrilo harassment or prank calls or this - amusing overreactions to silly things. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:30:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:I know you like to think that EVE is anonymous, and that all scamming is allowed in all its forms, but be careful you do not lose distinction on where EVE ends and the real world begins.
The line is there, and crossing it has immediate and serious legal repercussions. The line is there and crossing it makes it immediately irrelevant to EVE online.
If you hold that the TS sessions are external to EVE (as I do), then this entire kerfuffle amounts to "this guy does things I don't like outside EVE so ban him". All that happened in game was a guy gave his stuff away. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:31:00 -
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Lucretia DeWinter wrote:seizing of space assets You mean the donation of space assets.
'Please contract me all your stuff' is not exactly a seizure. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:36:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:I dont mean it to reflect on you personally, but I think though some recordings of Bonus Room may be amusing for everyone involved, including the "client", I have a hard time believing that it is very common. Probably more like very uncommon, and mostly it is more like listening to someone urged to anger or sadness. I can't speak for anyone else, but personally, when someone is upset over a trivial situation they are completely responsible for themselves, I feel very little sympathy, so it doesn't really affect the humour value for me.
If, say, Erotica 1 was hacking accounts and taking stuff and holding the bonus round in order for the victims to get their stuff back, I'd be as much up in arms about what a terrible thing it is to do as anyone else. But when it's a racist, homophobic 'plane controller' who hands over his stuff to the most infamous 'scammer' in EVE history and rages intensely when said scammer won't give it back? Not so much. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:40:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Crumplecorn wrote: All that happened in game was a guy gave his stuff away. And what happened outside of the game constitutes intentional infliction of emotional distress. You see, what you need to understand, is that TS is not a "free" environment devoid of laws or the norms of the world. They apply to you there, just as they do everywhere else. In the recording provided the emotional distress was solely due to someone making a very stupid decision and then getting stupendously angry and abusive when the cognitive dissonance wore off and they realised their mistake. (inb4 'but somewhere sometime they might have been really abusive prove me wrong')
Regardless, these are not the RL forums, they are the EVE forums, and as such the legitimacy of the goings on are irrelevant to us here. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:43:00 -
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Upde wrote:when the media vultures write this one up how do you think that will go down................... If they get their hands on it they will exploit it and CCP will ban Erotica 1 as a form of damage control. I'd do the same, it's a game not a free country. But whether something actually bad happened, and whether CCP have to act due to media pressure, are two different issues. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 14:57:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:But you didn't know he was, till after an hour or so of subjecting him to passive aggressive taunting, humiliating and demeaning tasks as well as frustration. Infact for all we know, he isnt actually a homophobe or a racist, even though he said those things in an emotional outburst. And interestingly enough, for that first hour I was quite torn because I didn't see anything technically wrong with what Erotica 1 was doing, but I really thought he was an ******* and wanted him to give the guy his stuff back.
But once the client showed his true colours, well, as I said before no sympathy. If we're going to talk about what actually happened, let's talk about all of what actually happened, instead of cherry picking parts.
Salvos Rhoska wrote:How much sympathy do you feel for ms.piggy Quite a lot, she has been invented as part of a pitiful attempt to drag something which occured on the internet with make believe money into the real world with real money, not to mention perpetuate blondeist stereotypes. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:01:00 -
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Lucretia DeWinter wrote:The progression to external channels to continue the humiliation of this person and the subsequent verbal abuse, racism and threats are relevant as they are performed by members of our community under the auspice of being part of the game. While I find did find the verbal abuse, racism and threats quite distasteful, they did happen completely outside the game and so I cannot agree with Sohkar being punished for them in EVE.
If we do consider the TS part of the game however, then I would say that ti should be treated the same as someone being ransomed in local. Singing a song to save your ship or whatever is nothing new. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:05:00 -
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Katkon Darnok wrote:Technically, the sample size in this thread is statistically significant and so therefore CAN be taken as being indicative of how the community at large feels, UNLESS you have reason to believe that the mix of people on the forums is unrepresentative of the feelings/moral compass of the community at large, in which case you could argue that the thread is suffering from selection bias. I suspect that's a weak argument, though. You forgot a step. There's also the mix of people in the topic.
If I opened an information booth with a banner saying 'Katkon Darnok is bad at statistics' over it, presented a blog post by someone about how you are bad at statistics to anyone who came in, and then polled them on what they thought of your knowledge of statistics was, do you think the results would be representative of the population at large? [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:07:00 -
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Upde wrote:" Early in the proceedings, the victim admits to having a minor speech impediment that quickly becomes apparent. One of the instigators pounces on this and suggests that any word the victim cannot pronounce properly, he be made to look up the definition for and read that definition as well. "
" His wife has to intervene and try to calm him down... unsuccessfully. She retires from the proceedings, apparently having a panic attack." Having listened to the recording, both these summaries are quite misleading. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:18:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:1) There is no evidence that the victim is even in the channel at the time it is said. 2) There is no evidence that the victim even hears that being said. 3) There is no expression of consent on the part of the victim to being recorded. 4) There is no implied consent on the part of the victim for being recorded, because it is not specifically stated by the recorder. 5) There is no expression of consent to distribution of the recording. Please provide a link to the recording you are talking about, becuase it is obviously not the one in the blog post being discussed. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:24:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:None of the above can be confirmed from that recording. At the end, he does say "I know I am being recorded and this will be distributed", QED.
These things are confirmed at the start so that anything said can be kept/distributed, rather than risking disagreement part way though. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:32:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:They half ass it. You have to confirm the consent both for recording AND distribution. He consents to both. Saying otherwise won't make it so.
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:40:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:He consents to both. Please explain to me EXACTLY how you come to this conclusion. Be as specific as possible. He says he consents to both.
There's really no wrangling your way out this, it's plainly stated on the recording, so I'm done responding to this asinine line of argument.
But as a sorted of deleted-scene-DVD-extra, here's what I would have said if, by some magic, you could demonstrate that the client did not say what he said - who cares? CCP are not the police, and neither are we, and a grey-area TS recording is nothing to do with either. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:48:00 -
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PinkPanter wrote:E1 actions are quite obviously premeditated attempt to inflict emotional harm Please. His actions were premeditated to garner some lulz, albeit in a juvenile fashion, and someone who probably shouldn't be playing serious business internet games went hulk mode on him. There are japanese game shows which will do far worse to you. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:49:00 -
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Destitute Tehol Beddict wrote:He consents to recording while being recorded... That makes lots of sense? Well if his consent isn't recorded, what use would it be? [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:50:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:If erotica1 action were legal why did he not use the in-game chat for this You can't sing songs via text. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:52:00 -
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Ban Bindy wrote:To those of you who support the Bonus Room as a legitimate Eve activity, what is the line an Eve player would have to cross to get you to admit he did something wrong? Actually taking their stuff or somehow forcing them to do embarassing things rather than asking politely for both would be a start. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:08:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Except if CCP continues to allow this to occur and someone self harms because of it they could be vicariously liable so they can't just ignore it. In some areas what they did is a criminal offence so its hardly a matter of freedom. You don't have freedom to abuse and vilify people. You agree to give up those freedoms in exchange for the rule of law. If you want to live in anarchy perhaps Afghanistan is a better place for you? I think people like Erotica 1 are pretty thick-skinned, so the kind of abuse and villification he is suffering are unlikely to cause any real harm. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:15:00 -
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Lucretia DeWinter wrote:Inviting same sap onto your TS and goading them for two hours about it until they snap? Yeah, I'll take issue with that. Goading for two hours? Did you even listen to the recording? They ask him to read a total of three short web pages, and sing what amounted in the end to three songs (originally it was going to be twenty supposedly).
Long and drawn out? Sure. But they weren't promising to return a single ship, they were promising to quintuple the totality of the EVE assets. For that, I'd expect long and drawn out. And they were unfailingly polite and patient the entire time, even when Sohkar became abusive.
I find it interesting that you are ok with the linked ALOD but not with the Bonus Round, since in former case it involves lying point blank to a new player to get their stuff, while in the latter case the client gambled their assets away with full knowledge of what they were doing. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:21:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Also relevant is if it happened again and a more imbalanced person was deliberately targeted and treated the same way causing that person to harm themselves then CCP would likely be liable in part since they are now fully aware of whats occurring and doing nothing would be pretty stupid from a legal point of view. Literally exactly this could be said about blowing up ships in EVE. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:28:00 -
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Katkon Darnok wrote:The US government (and I) would disagree with your nuanced definition. You are a bad person and should feel bad.
There, I am now a cyberbully am and literally as bad as someone who has driven someone to suicide.
Removing nuance is fun. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:30:00 -
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LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:Except for it does. Multiple recordings of abuse sessions, multiple victims, pattern of behaviour....
Oh buddy, the hammer will come down on E1, and it will come down hard. As soon as they finish tracking down the people who made Takeshi's Castle. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:32:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:No it couldn't. In EvE you expect your ship to get blown up. Sure. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:35:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:In this case there was deliberate attempt to cause humiliation , through prolonged bullying and coercion of a individual by another player using out of game mechanisms. The intent to cause harm is key within that argument. As such CCP need to intervene due to the intent of the scammers to harm another players psychological well being through coercive humiliation Wow. You must have cost your parents a fortune in bubble wrap growing up. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 16:48:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:One Eyed Runner wrote:[...]
The actions are deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior intended to harm another.
[...] That's pretty much spot on for what Erotica and its 'friends' did. Nope. Bonus rounds are one-time affairs intended to offer large payouts. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:16:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:I am. These people haven't even listened to the recording and are throwing nothing but abuse about at anyone who disagrees with them. They have taken it upon themselves to spread this around as many gaming site and news sites as they can.
All that for someone getting someone to read out the code, look up wikipedia and try to get them to sing two song one of which from a disney cartoon. Never once did they swear at the contestant while the contestant spent a good 30 min throwing abuse about.
This is nothing but a witchhunt against E1 and they dont give a damn about this "victim" either as they are spreading his outbursts around the net. They have done more to damage this contestant than E1 ever did, they are even calling him mentally disabled based only upon a speech imediment. This whole thing is disgusting. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:20:00 -
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Lucretia DeWinter wrote:In all honestly, if it were my scam, I would have pulled the plug on it when it was obvious the participant was getting emotionally distressed with something like "look, I'm sorry, you are not going to continue in this Bonus Round and you're not getting your stuff back." So you'd decide at an arbitrary point in time to kick the client out and keep their stuff? Then it really would be a scam. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.26 17:28:00 -
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Katkon Darnok wrote:It's about the cyber-bullying, making fun of a guy's speech impediment, and the scammer's overt desire to avoid CCP's user agreement by trying to move the whole thing offsite. And then it's about posting the conversation for the sheer purpose of having others join in "the fun" of watching another guy lose his net virtual worth and get extremely agitated in the process. That's what this is about. They don't really make fun of his speech impediment, and it disappears anyway when he starts calling them niggers.
The rest of the post is nonsense too, but that's one particular accusation I have not seen challenged thus far. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:18:00 -
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Druthlen wrote:You dont know what is going on in that persons life to make him vulnerable but someday it will happen to you or someone you love. Either way it doesnt change that it is sick to take advantage of the weaker among us and to delight in torturing the weaker of us. Just makes me nauseous. If someone making a fool of himself on the Internet is enough to make you nauseous, I'd love to see how you react to one person actually harming another.
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Is it so, that it is required that the victim must submit to commensurate abuse, humiliation, degradation, and the assignment of arbitrary demands, in order to win? That'd be a bit odd, since the first three don't occur in the bonus room (abuse from the client notwithstanding). [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:29:00 -
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And yet, it has been done to devs. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:31:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Baltec, you have not mentioned the part where they made fun of the mark for having a speech impediment. Probably because they didn't.
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Again, when it comes to the marks intemperate use of language, he was provoked and reacted badly, which he should not have done in an ideal world. Again, no he wasn't, the guys running the bonus room were unfailingly polite. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:33:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:What about insulting the victim's speech impediment? Didn't happen. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 12:34:00 -
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PinkPanter wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:And yet, it has been done to devs. Hey I read somebody went on and killed 20 kids in some school. I mean it's been done already. What are you waiting for? Are you trolling or actually this stupid? Genuine question. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:You pinned a guy against a wall with a two-ton truck, as a result of what he said on the internet.
Ban Bindy wrote:And you think you're normal and healthy, I suppose. Adhominemmind [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Moloney wrote:I would like to point out that it does not matter whether E1 broke the EULA or not.
The point being made by people in this thread is that we do not want to be associated with such a morally wrong and disgraceful example of a human being.
We would like to play Eve.
We would like to think that when such a disgraceful representative of our game boasts publicly about being the scum of the planet, that appropriate repercussions are handed out to state "this is not right, this will not be accepted by anyone and under no circumstances should anyone believe it a good idea to replicate this persons actions " So you are literally saying "CCP should ban anyone I don't like".
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LordOfDespair wrote:"Unless something is against the rules its okay" is such a shallow and dimwitted way of thinking about things.
Do you seriously need somebody to tell you what is okay and what isn't? You just managed to miss the sole purpose of all explicitly stated rules everywhere in all of the past, present and future.
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LordOfDespair wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Moloney wrote:I would like to point out that it does not matter whether E1 broke the EULA or not.
The point being made by people in this thread is that we do not want to be associated with such a morally wrong and disgraceful example of a human being.
We would like to play Eve.
We would like to think that when such a disgraceful representative of our game boasts publicly about being the scum of the planet, that appropriate repercussions are handed out to state "this is not right, this will not be accepted by anyone and under no circumstances should anyone believe it a good idea to replicate this persons actions " So you are literally saying "CCP should ban anyone I don't like". You realise that ends with everyone banned right? You are litterally strawmanning the **** out of his statement. Fallacy central here. "I would like to think that when a person I don't like boasts publicly about being a person I don't like, that appropriate repercussions are handed out to state "I don't like this, this will not be accepted by me and under no circumstances should anyone believe it a good idea to replicate this persons actions "
'We' turns into 'I' since he can only speak for himself. Judgements about E1's status as the 'scum of the earth' are personal opinion and thus can be generalised as above. The result it literally "CCP should ban anyone I don't like". [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:00:00 -
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Moloney wrote:I would like to point out that it does not matter whether E1 broke the EULA or not.
The point being made by people in this thread is that we do not want to be associated with such a morally wrong and disgraceful example of a human being.
We would like to play Eve.
We would like to think that when such a disgraceful representative of our game boasts publicly about being the scum of the planet, that appropriate repercussions are handed out to state "this is not right, this will not be accepted by anyone and under no circumstances should anyone believe it a good idea to replicate this persons actions " Actually, here's a comparison that may make clear what is wrong with this 'thinking':
This is pretty much what Russia said about gays recently. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:02:00 -
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LordOfDespair wrote:You are trying to rationalize a logical fallacy.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:05:00 -
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LordOfDespair wrote:It isn't "ban players that I don't like".
It is "ban players whos only purpose is to glorify bullying others".
The guy who wrote the blog and many people in this thread are spending all their time bullying E1. Ban them.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:35:00 -
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Speaking of spamming the thread, I'd just like to quote this again.
baltec1 wrote:These people haven't even listened to the recording and are throwing nothing but abuse about at anyone who disagrees with them. They have taken it upon themselves to spread this around as many gaming site and news sites as they can.
All that for someone getting someone to read out the code, look up wikipedia and try to get them to sing two song one of which from a disney cartoon. Never once did they swear at the contestant while the contestant spent a good 30 min throwing abuse about.
This is nothing but a witchhunt against E1 and they dont give a damn about this "victim" either as they are spreading his outbursts around the net. They have done more to damage this contestant than E1 ever did, they are even calling him mentally disabled based only upon a speech imediment. This whole thing is disgusting. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:49:00 -
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Kyperion wrote:Yeah, hokay.
We'll just petition to let murderers go free now... because 'they' might come for you next You do realise that even 'known' murderers get due process right? For this exact reason? [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:52:00 -
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Anne Dieu-le-veut wrote:This thread derails more than AMTRAK. Don't assume I know what AMTRAK is. Check your privilege americentric scum. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:59:00 -
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Bye.
The degree of self-importance from that guy is amazing. I hope he really did quit. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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embrel wrote:Scamming is fine, ganking is fine, I like Eve. But I don't see how you can consider it fun to set up such a room. Nice of you to show the true basis of your post right at the end. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:There is no witch-hunt.
This is the community expressing its condemnation of Erotica1's conduct. witch-hunt n. : a rigorous campaign to round up or expose dissenters on the pretext of safeguarding the welfare of the public
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Anslo wrote:Self serving and pointless. Wanna make a statement? Livestream you biomassing all toons and canceling all subs. Otherwise gtfo. What statement would that make? "I do stupid things because people on the Internet tell me to"? Somehow I think E1 will see through that kind of thing. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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PinkPanter wrote:Giovanni erkelens2 wrote:*counts down to the time someone kills himself due a scam or bonusroom in eve* if that happens we're all ****** cause the number of rules that will step in not mentioning what will the community do will literally put this game to ****. People have already died over stuffs in MMOGs. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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olan2005 wrote:The control to end this was completely in Erotica1 hands . Ultimate responsibility is with the scammer Erotica1 for this entire situation Actually the client ultimately has more control over the situation. It can't even begin without their consent. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:27:00 -
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Regis Solo wrote:That is not Ripard's fault, he did not call for people to be violent towards Ero. The people in this thread are responsible for their own comments. "I didn't tell anyone to burn her, I just called her a witch"
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:50:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:For the scamming aspect yes it happend with the victims consent . He willingly handed over assets like a idiot. The bonus room shenanegians involved coercion by holding victims assets to ransom. No. Nothing was 'ransomed'. There was no coercion. He handed over his assets willingly in the hopes of getting quintuple back by going through the bonus room. It's a combination of gambling and a game show. To suggest that he was ransomed or coerced in any way is a straight up lie, and you should feel bad or stupid or both. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:55:00 -
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olan2005 wrote:Ok so your saying if the the victim stated he wanted his assets of se he could log and sleep erotica1 would do it . No he would keep them Of course. If you told me you wanted my assets so you can log and sleep you'd be told a lot worse that 'no I'm keeping them'. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:01:00 -
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PinkPanter wrote:AND THAT"S WHERE IT WAS SUPPOSE TO END AND ALL WOULD BE FINE. Then why didn't Sohkar end it there? [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:03:00 -
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Druthlen wrote:Oh we have someone that is using ingame villainy to try to justify out of game villainy. So because someone did it in a game should E1 be allowed to hurt others in rl? Please do tell. >blowing up ships in a blowing-up-ships-game >sing me some songs and i'll give you eleventy billion isk >villany
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You do a disservice to everyone who has ever been tortured and you should feel bad. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:07:00 -
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dexington wrote:There is no game that's is just a scam Then it's a scam disguised as a gameshow. Great, so what?
dexington wrote:and the "show" is just a vulgar display of power when the victim desperately tries to save his items Actually saving your items from E1 is easy. In fact, I'm doing it right now, and so are you. Guess how?
dexington wrote:and this is where the creepy stuff starts.. and some borderline perverted stuff has happened in the bonus room. [citation needed] + relevance?
dexington wrote:In the end it's all done so E1 can produce a humiliating recording, which is then published on the internet. If a person chooses to 'humiliate' (arguable) themselves when they know they are being recorded, what harm is done? [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:12:00 -
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Kikusama wrote:After reading about this story and after reading parts of this thread I am terribly saddened that a disturbing part of the EvE Online player community is actually naming what this player did a "play style". I know (and hope) this isn't the majority of this community, as I've witnessed EvE players doing wonderful things (the typhoon relief PLEX thing being one of them).
There is no such thing when you are purposely applying psychological torture to a person and prolong it for hours Well done on listening to the recording yourself and drawing conclusions based on direct evidence and rational thought.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:13:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:"Since 1973Amnesty International-áhas adopted the simplest, broadest definition of torture:
"Torture is the systematic and deliberate infliction of acute pain by one person on another, or on a third person, in order to accomplish the purpose of the former against the will of the latter." Entering the bonus room is voluntary.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:18:00 -
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Big Lynx wrote:Physically yes. But mentally? Should anyone not mentally able to walk away if/when they feel 'bullied' be playing EVE in the first place? [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:As in my example, entering into marriage union with a husband who later begins to torture her, is also voluntary.
It is immaterial to Erotica1s conduct fullfilling the definition of torture provided above. Torture is not a part of marriage. Entering the bonus room is part of entering the bonus room. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:23:00 -
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Alp Khan wrote:You are trying to make it appear as if Erotica 1 does not do all that mental torture and abuse Asking someone to sing = mental abuse and torture
I remember being mentally abused and tortured and some birthday parties when I was a kid actually....
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Jerome Gouillot wrote:And not control airtraffic, at least please not planes that I am using ... He didn't say he was an ATC, he said he 'controls planes'. 'Plane Controller' is a common profession among those trying to make up professions on the spot. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Alp Khan wrote:Yet Erotica 1's bonus rooms are all about sadistic ploys that instill psychopathic mental torture on victims who Erotica 1 sources from EVE Online on Teamspeak. If he sourced them from people looking for a night out he'd be running a karaoke bar instead. At least then the psychopathic mental torture would be sanctioned I guess. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Torture is not a part of marriage. Entering the bonus room is part of entering the bonus room. Lolwhat? You just confirmed that entering into the Bonus Room is entering into torture. No? I confirmed that the bonus room is the bonus room. Reading comprehension. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Alp Khan wrote:Asking someone to post naked pictures of their significant other with the false promise that they will get their assets back and having them write your name on their bodies with mayonnaise is far from asking someone to sing a song.
You are trying to whitewash Erotica 1's sadistic ploys and psychopathic mental torture on victims he derives from EVE Online. I'm simply discussing the recording that the blog which is the topic of this thread is discussing. What are you talking about? Well, I will await your proof of the above assertions, while tending my mountain of salt. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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LordOfDespair wrote:Stop signing your posts, it makes you look like an arrogant douche. Thanks for the tip.
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Alp Khan wrote:You are trying to make it appear as if Erotica 1 does not do all that mental torture and abuse Asking someone to sing = mental abuse and torture I remember being mentally abused and tortured and some birthday parties when I was a kid actually.... You and I both know that's not the same thing. Indeed not, you can't get out of a birthday party just by pressing a button, and the consequences for throwing a tantrum are far worse than losing spacebucks. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:To those posting that what happens in the Bonus Room does not constitute torture:
"Since 1973Amnesty International has adopted the simplest, broadest definition of torture:
"Torture is the systematic and deliberate infliction of acute pain by one person on another, or on a third person, in order to accomplish the purpose of the former against the will of the latter." Entering the bonus room is voluntary.
I'll probably be gone in an hour, try again then.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:41:00 -
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Talon SilverHawk wrote:Its not about the mark its about treating someone like that to get a laugh, you just can't justify it. What, you mean asking them to do silly things for the promise of a reward? Justified? It's practically an institution. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:You would be right if you were the only one who sang while everyone else at the party laughed at you. Alas, that's not how it works. It is in music class at school sometimes.
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Kaius Fero wrote:Well, maybe there is no responsibility over Sokhar as a grown up man and EVE player, but when the man wife is involved.. you should step back and call it a day. That woman had nothing to do with EVE, the community and the whole glory hole concept. Instead, they started to fuk around with her too. She chose to get involved, and it was her trying to **** around with E1, not the other way around. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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E-2C Hawkeye wrote:This may be true to a point but people also need to be held accountable for their own actions.
If I were a Vegan and went to McDonalds and beat up the meat eaters would it be their fault because they let me beat them up or because they eat meat?
Abuse is abuse regarless of how it happens. If you went up to the meat eaters and asked them to beat themselves up so you could film it and put it on youtube, and they did, whose fault is it then? [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:The will of the perpetrators in the Bonus Room is for the victim to leave the situation. The will of the people torturing the victim is for him to stop being tortured?
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Alp Khan wrote:Oh yes, Erotica 1 has asked and received from his victims nsfw pictures of their significant others. And then, he posted them on forums. Links or STFU. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Try again? Wait, are you taking my posts where I call birthday parties torture to be serious?
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Boomtown Jones wrote:Nobody who takes this issue seriously should still be posting in this thread, it's all just feeding the trolls. 'Just'?
I think not.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:56:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:The will of the perpetrators is for the victim to leave the Bonus Room. That is how the perpetrators win the Bonus Room. Since you're not getting this I'll try to make it simpler:
I tell you I'm going to punch you in the face until you walk away from me. You stand still and take the punches to the face without moving.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 15:59:00 -
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Alp Khan wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Oh yes, Erotica 1 has asked and received from his victims nsfw pictures of their significant others. And then, he posted them on forums. Links or STFU. Links to Erotica 1's posts were provided on this thread before and they were authenticated by another CSM member, mynnna. Are you going to continue lying or are you able to feel shame to a degree that can stop you from lying? This thread is two billion pages long. Repost the links, if they exist.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:00:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Of course not. Its very clear that you're using sarcasm in a really poor attempt at rendering another person's opinion invalid. I can't make your opinions invalid. Only you can do that. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:02:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:The will of the perpetrators is for the victim to leave the Bonus Room. That is how the perpetrators win the Bonus Room. Since you're not getting this I'll try to make it simpler: I tell you I'm going to punch you in the face until you walk away from me. You stand still and take the punches to the face without moving. This is not torture. I removed the parts of your post that didn't help explain how letting someone punch you in face is you being tortured. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:02:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Oh yes, Erotica 1 has asked and received from his victims nsfw pictures of their significant others. And then, he posted them on forums. Links or STFU. Unless you have access to the forums where these posts / pics exist then links will prove pointless. So, there's no links then. And no surprise either. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:05:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:Crumplecorn wrote:I can't make your opinions invalid. Only you can do that. In which case, you're just bad at trolling. I didn't realise that being able to alter the actual objective validity of a statement through sheer force of will was the minimum bar for trolling these days. In my day we posted ASCII spam. Over dial-up modems. In the snow. Both ways. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:11:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:against the will of the latter Entering the bonus room in voluntary.
Turns out I don't have to go out for nearly another hour.
Try again later.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:13:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:277....ish pages of rage, trolling, and other misc stuff.
When will it get locked/deleted?
Only time will tell! This may be your last chance to win most-frequent-poster-in-the-thread! Act now and we'll throw in free likes for every pro-E1 post! But wait, there's more! We'll also throw in free likes for every anti-E1 post! Don't miss out! Post today! [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:21:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:It gives CCP cause to thoroughly investigate and audit Erotica1's activities in any extension to the service they provide. And presumably do the same for the blog author since he is CSM. [img]http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sig.php?r=*rnd*[/img] Desusigs can be seen on the terribad new forums using bbcode enabling script (scroll down to my post for sig rotation) |
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Posted - 2014.03.27 16:39:00 -
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Harah Noud wrote:fortunately it s not up to u to decide or ascertain if the rules were broken or not... u just can say that "u don't think that the rules were broken..."
meanwhile, i believe that they were :o and even if they don't, new rules should be written to stop such behavior!
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Posted - 2014.03.27 17:01:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:The scam part is fine, this is the part that isn't acceptable for me, and why I consider the bahaviour of Ero and his buddies to be beyond the pale.
"...Early in the proceedings, the victim admits to having a minor speech impediment that quickly becomes apparent. One of the instigators pounces on this and suggests that any word the victim cannot pronounce properly, he be made to look up the definition for and read that definition as well..."
The above quote is taken from Jester's blog on the subject. Amazing, you quote that as if it is an authoritative source, rather than listening to the recording, which is linked in that very blog.
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Posted - 2014.03.27 17:03:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:The feedback in this thread is very much appreciated, and we've been watching it since it was first posted. While we can appreciate that tensions are high, please remember to keep within the forum rules when posting. We'll have more information for you guys in the coming days. Hello CCP Falcon, I submit the following for CCP consideration:
"Since 1973Amnesty International has adopted the simplest, broadest definition of torture: "Torture is the systematic and deliberate infliction of acute pain by one person on another, or on a third person, in order to accomplish the purpose of the former against the will of the latter." Bonus room is still voluntary, and I'm still here.
Regards, Crumplecorn
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