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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1756
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:13:00 -
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pink fuzzy megathron here i come!!! There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Javajunky
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
97
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:15:00 -
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You lost me at the word Aurem.
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Spugg Galdon
APOCALYPSE LEGION The Obsidian Front
388
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:16:00 -
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For god's sake!
You do realise my Alliance CEO is going to kick my butt when he sees my Aliastra Hyperion loss mail right!? |
Iorga Eeta
Hekatonkheires Industries
1
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:16:00 -
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Is it just coincidence that doing 60 scout sites/asteroid belts in a high-sec Incursion staging system will get you both 3000 Concord LP and 3,000,000 isk you need for the Cop Car blueprint?
(Woop Woop!) |
TheLostPenguin
Surreal Departure
66
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:17:00 -
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Looks good for a trial attempt, finally another oft-requested feature coming into being, hopefully this can avoid being a trainwreck like :spits: Incarna was, but at least it seems someone finally understood a bit better the MICRO in microtransactions.
One quick point, if these will end up as having seperate filters on the overview due to the (hopefully) temporary quickndirty typeid hack job, please make sure they're checked to show by default, I'd rather have to remember to remove them from relevant tabs than learn I forgot to add one the more unpleasant way :) |
Strata Maslav
Born-2-Kill
70
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:17:00 -
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The price of the "skin" should be relative to the price of hull.
It will encourage the skinning of smaller ships on a more regular basis then in its current state.
If we look at the end ISK price of these skins I don't think they are going to be fit to every day ships. Increasing the price of a rifter or incurses from 500,000 isk to 9,000,000 will make using frig skins as average fleet ships quite a waste of money.
With the price of these skins I can only see limited use, in selected "pimped" ships. I would argue lower the price point by x10 would cause their usage to increased x10 times. In its current state the "paint job" on the T1 frigate would cost more then the ship itself which seems a little silly.
If we compare that to the battleship "paintjobs" we see that price of the paint job in comparison to the price of ship is several magnitude lower.
Increase in price of ship via skinning: Frigate - 1681% Battleship - 32% |
Kimimaro Yoga
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
32
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:18:00 -
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Oooh oooh I have wanted a cooler skin for the Maelstrom for soooo long. How long? Let me show you... *censored*.
Seriously though this is awesome. I'd just like to echo some of the previous comments briefly: Bulk discounts. Many-run BPs for less cost per run, so that people who lose say, their Rifter a lot, can keep making more new-skinned ones. Some way to have fractional aurum to make it a bit easier for not so space rich people to get in on the action (although poor people could just buy one ship on the market from someone else, so meh). And finally, once you implement the full-bore custom skin system, you *have* to have a reskin item that puts the character's alliance logo on their ship. The market for this will be huge. Forget the hangar trophies, think of the people making movies of space combat who want a whole fleet plastered with their alliance logo. ANd the art assets are already ingame.
Woop woop! Now recruiting: http://i.imgur.com/16hU3Wo.jpg |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
5143
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:19:00 -
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Hell yes we want to paint our ships!
(Going to read the blog now)
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Ali Aras
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
610
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:20:00 -
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Altrue wrote:You've been nicely formatted indeed But I don't think CCP hired anyone for this so this is effective dev time wasted. It's art time, and specifically a pilot so's *not* to waste dev time. http://warp-to-sun.tumblr.com -- my blog |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
461
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:21:00 -
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Awesome stuff. Though I do think the pricing for Battleships is a bit on the steep side. In fact, I don't completely understand the need to have different prices for different hull sizes. I would be happy to pay up to a dollar for a paint job, but not much more than that, regardless of hull size. My YouTube Channel - EVE Tutorials & other game related things! |
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Georgiy Giggle
REFORD Division REFORD
110
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:22:00 -
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Loving the idea but hate you all devs so much for such ***** way of realization.
You are going to make a new vanity item. Why not to place it directly to market? Or even LP shop? Why to the ******* aurum shop?
Stop becoming greedy mmo devs as most of they are. Do you have lack of real money? Stop wasting money for MONUMENTS and spend it for developing game! Without such crap as vanity items.
I realy want to paint my ship but I will not!!!! You may ask why! Answer: it is very stupid to spend 30x price of ship just to paint it. Or even 10x. All you give is 'nothing' for bunch of realmoney (or even isk, not directly); just a texture.
Still, I can't paint a **** on my hull or a unicorn, narwhal, nyancat for example. So why should I pay real money or such a big sum of isk for such useless item?
Do you think it is normal to buy an eye hole (impant) for price of battleship? Or shirt for a price of t2 cruiser?
Pilot's who agree, just boycot and do not use this 'feature' to break their expectation (If this pilot program reveals that the painting of internet spaceships is indeed popular and we are able to gather enough data and thoughtful feedback...).
Message to some sily-minded pilots who will ask me about my ***** pricy shirt - I've got it as gift. Will never spend so much money for useless item. Also I'm thinking to sell it and buy a battleship for PVP.
And want to repeat - I AM LOVING IDEA, but I do not support the way you going to release. Won't use it if it becomes a vanity item in crap(aurum)shop.
All mentioned above is my own opinion. Not mastering proprieties, won't become firmly established. - Confucius |
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CCP Fozzie
C C P C C P Alliance
9396
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:22:00 -
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TheLostPenguin wrote: One quick point, if these will end up as having seperate filters on the overview due to the (hopefully) temporary quickndirty typeid hack job, please make sure they're checked to show by default, I'd rather have to remember to remove them from relevant tabs than learn I forgot to add one the more unpleasant way :)
Thankfully in this case the ships are not in new groups so they will appear on overviews by default. Game Designer | Team Five-0 https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie http://www.twitch.tv/ccp_fozzie/ |
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Sven Viko VIkolander
Aliastra Gallente Federation
122
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:23:00 -
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This is AWESOME.
One question: Will players be able to tell whether a ship has a custom skin via dscan, say, or only by looking at the ship? (E.g., will the new-old comet read as "Police Pursuit Comet" on the overview / dscan type?) I ask because I enjoy using special edition ships as PVP bait--e.g., the Sarum Magnate or the Interbus Catalyst, as they tend to draw a lot of fights.
The prices actually look good at this point, but one thing I suggest is that the cheap these skins are, the more people (like me) will not just buy them, but undock in them. If they are too expensive, the problem is people may still buy them, but they won't do anything to lose them (PVE, PVP, or even undocking). I will certainly be buying a few custom frigates and PVP in them, but if they were even cheaper I can guarantee you I would buy more and, consequently, lose more. |
NekoKitten
Neko Industry 'n' PvE Apocalypse Now.
27
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:24:00 -
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Sooooo when do we get 'Hello Kitty' pink spaceship skins ? I need one for my freighter. |
Nicen Jehr
Brave Newbies Inc. Brave Collective
355
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:26:00 -
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Hi would you guys mind putting the current AUR value of one plex in the devblog? i'm gonna go look it up now but it would be convenient to see right there how many paint jobs a plex would get you. Little Things to improve GëíGïüGëí-á| My Little Things posts |
Arkon Olacar
Blue-Fire
298
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:27:00 -
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Strata Maslav wrote:The price of the "skin" should be relative to the price of hull.
It will encourage the skinning of smaller ships on a more regular basis then in its current state.
If we look at the end ISK price of these skins I don't think they are going to be fit to every day ships. Increasing the price of a rifter or incurses from 500,000 isk to 9,000,000 will make using frig skins as average fleet ships quite a waste of money.
With the price of these skins I can only see limited use in selected "pimped" ships. I would argue lower the price point by x10 would cause their usage to increased x10 times. In its current state the "paint job" on the T1 frigate would cost more then the ship itself which seems a little silly.
If we compare that to the battleship "paintjobs" we see that price of the paint job in comparison to the price of ship is several magnitude lower.
Increase in price of ship via skinning: Frigate - 1681% Battleship - 32% If you fit your frigs with pure meta0 mods then sure
Frigs that actually get used rather than afk'd in FW plexes or thrown at nullseccers en mass will be using T2 crap, usually pushing the price closer to 10mil. Based on PLEX prices you're looking at 8-9mil for a frig paintjob. Warping to zero |
Ilfar
Manta Ice
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:28:00 -
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Unfortunately, you won't be able to undock in a ship with the new skins, because the door... errr.. I mean hangar won't open...
Five gets you ten this'll go the same way as ambulation - nowhere. |
Arkon Olacar
Blue-Fire
298
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:28:00 -
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The sheer volume of irrelevant NPC corp forum alts who seem unaware that Aurum Tokens exist tickles me Warping to zero |
Gregor Parud
278
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:30:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Please note that this is a pilot project. If demand shows that you really like the ship paint, we will go ahead and implement a proper ship paint system. Your feedback is extremely valuable here!
If you find any sort of excuse to not pursue this I will grab a plane to Iceland, go to your offices and **** on your door mat.
and that's a promise.
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Mangala Solaris
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
956
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:31:00 -
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Nicen Jehr wrote:Hi would you guys mind putting the current AUR value of one plex in the devblog? i'm gonna go look it up now but it would be convenient to see right there how many paint jobs a plex would get you.
3500 aur per plex, but also a good idea on the addition. RvB Ganked: EVE's Number One Public Roam |
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Tyrron Taron
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:32:00 -
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Nice idea ... but who the hell came to the stupid idea , to offer 8 (!) items with AURUM and only one (!) in the game itself? This sucks very hard. |
Sentient Blade
Crisis Atmosphere
1196
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:33:00 -
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I like this, the different ship types is a necessary evil at this point I suppose.
I can't wait for someone to stick an int32 alongside the typeID so skinning is much easier.
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
4087
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:35:00 -
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Georgiy Giggle wrote:Loving the idea but hate you all devs so much for such ***** way of realization.
You are going to make a new vanity item. Why not to place it directly to market? Or even LP shop? Why to the ******* aurum shop? As the blog stated, the developers would love to have a broad variety of methods how you can get the ship skins and not just AUR payments. For example, the blueprint to convert the Federation Navy Comet into the Police Pursuit Comet is available in the CONCORD LP Store.
CCP Phantom - Senior Community Representative - Volunteer Manager |
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TheButcherPete
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
387
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:35:00 -
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"If this pilot program reveals that the painting of internet spaceships is indeed popular...."
LOL dude. We were already losing our minds over the Nugoeihuvi Rokh for like a week before this devblog :P THE KING OF EVE RADIO
ElQuirko is my son |
Cade Windstalker
Donohue Enterprises Ad-Astra
296
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:36:00 -
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Just for clarification, I'm showing roughly 43 million ISK per USD based on ~645 mil. ISK and 15 USD per PLEX, which means the cost of painting a Battleship should be ~80 million ISK. Overall fairly reasonable IMO. Comes out to roughly half the base-cost of the hull for a T1 ship and on Faction ships it's a far lower percentage.
If someone from CCP or the CSM could spot-check my math that would be great.
Going forward if this is popular enough it would be great to have us able to buy/acquire "patterns", like the digital camo of the Caldari Navy, but customize the colors ourselves when we install the color, allowing for far more diverse ship coloring than a simple fixed set of textures.
The down-side of course being that for the sake of performance we likely wouldn't be able to view (at the least) the custom colors without specifically hitting view on another person's ship, the same way guns don't render on other ships by default. Or maybe I'm wrong (hopefully).
Either way, awesome new feature. Now, to go paint my Rokh... :3
Oh, for Wormhole people moving forward, I vote an Orca or Roqual mounted paint-cannon! "Invade our Wormhole and we paint your ships pink!" xD |
Robert Parr
Iron Tiger T3 Industries
6
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:36:00 -
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Sausage making half-measures with designs on squeezing every last ounce of revenue out of this game.....this is almost as bad as watching CFC Fozzie go to work on my ships (step away from the nerf bat Fozz)!!!!!!!
Seriously, if you want my money for skins then make it a one-time fee for access to an in-game paint booth......can't stress this enough I don't want to be married to your notions of ship skins....give me the freedom to choose metal flake green with gang symbols if I want!!! If it's a problem of rendering then, make it so that you default back to the normal ship skin during heavy server loads. This is a 'nice-to-have' thing mostly for your own gratification; once you're in space it's almost unnoticable anyway. Hope someone is actually listening...especially you Nerfboy!!!! |
Jinn Aideron
24
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:36:00 -
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Hope this flies. The idea of maybe corporate identity logos on the horizon is something.
Also hope the accompanying performance drop won't be very large. DScan change on Sisi as of Feb 26! Participate in testing, and don't you dare be demanding or not constructive in your feedback! :P
G¥ñ "Little Things"-á G¥ñ CCP karkur G¥ñ |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3062
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:36:00 -
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Oh now we're talking! This is awesome. Can't wait to cruise around in my cop car spaceship!
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Joe Boirele
Lords 0f Justice Lords Of stars
11
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:37:00 -
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I don't like that the BPCs are currently only available in the NEX store, but if we can also get them from, for example, LP stores, I'd be fine with that. I have to say, I do like the new colors for the ships. Enemies are just friends who stab you in the front.
Might makes right! |
Tyrron Taron
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2014.03.06 17:37:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Georgiy Giggle wrote:Loving the idea but hate you all devs so much for such ***** way of realization.
You are going to make a new vanity item. Why not to place it directly to market? Or even LP shop? Why to the ******* aurum shop? As the blog stated, the developers would love to have a broad variety of methods how you can get the ship skins and not just AUR payments. For example, the blueprint to convert the Federation Navy Comet into the Police Pursuit Comet is available in the CONCORD LP Store. Yes, but this idea smells not like a dev idea, it smells like a business administration idea.
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