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Naverin
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:41:00 -
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ive been doing some research and in touch with the people of Ebay.
Granted I can try and report every eve-online isk auction and some will probably get removed but theres 100's more being made..
Now im being told that you CCP eve-online can simply request Ebay to remove any Auctions pertaining to isk sales or Accounts.. IE. intelectual property. and they will happily remove them for you.. and do a fairly decent job so im hearing.
Has this option been discussed yet? because it would seem logical to Simply do that and let Ebay police the auctions. ______________________ I am the carebear...
who doesnt use the "Correct Dread"
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:43:00 -
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sony did that, but i guess they have more lawyers than CCP.
might as well try though.
eBay probably take some persuading to let go of revenue
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Rorix Whitecloud
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:44:00 -
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google the term "eve isk"... and see how little ebay matters? heh...
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:47:00 -
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Originally by: Naverin Granted I can try and report every eve-online isk auction and some will probably get removed but theres 100's more being made..
None will be removed. They condone the sale of virtual items, there's nothing in ebay's TOS or EULA that forbids violating Eve's EULA and the only reason you'll get it removed is if they're selling something you own the rights to. You aren't CCP, so you don't own the rights to what's being sold and ebay won't do a thing about anything you report. There's even an established section for Eve Online sales.
As I understand it, if CCP simply officially ask for Eve sales to be removed and disallowed, they will comply. I'm wondering if they've attempted this.
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:49:00 -
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Naverin, I'm honestly not sure if that is something the legal team has tried or not. I've brought your post to their attention, I hope this is something you are correct in.
kieron Community Manager, EVE Online |
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M3ta7h3ad
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:57:00 -
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They do it for tickets and so on once they've been asked. No reason why EBay wouldnt listen to CCP. Its CCP's intellectual property.
It wouldnt take a letter from a lawyer I doubt, it'd take the current CEO of CCP to notify them in writing asking them to remove any EVE-online products from the listings. ----- If you kill all the wolves, your gonna end up with a crapload of bunnies, and by bunnies I mean stupid people Eve & Linux Woot! |
Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.12 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Naverin, I'm honestly not sure if that is something the legal team has tried or not. I've brought your post to their attention, I hope this is something you are correct in.
I suggested it months ago. Ebay have a scheme where the owners of intellectual copyright can contact them and ask to have items removed and added to the banned items list.
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Eternal Fury
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Posted - 2006.04.12 21:08:00 -
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Naverin is now Kill on sight by all the ebayers.. :)
demand is greater then supply = high price.
supply is greater then demand = low price.
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Zeonog
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Posted - 2006.04.12 21:10:00 -
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Ebay have a section for EVE online for people to sell their stuff. So your saying they will remove this if they are asked? I doubt it tbh.
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Naverin
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Posted - 2006.04.12 21:11:00 -
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I hope so.. I need more people to come visit me in my empire station and watch me sit there 24/7 While training on a Implant clone :/ ______________________ I am the carebear...
who doesnt use the "Correct Dread"
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.04.12 21:46:00 -
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lol and lol - lets hope it works out shut down at least that avenue but i doubt will have any long term impact will just go more underground
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Naal Morno
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Posted - 2006.04.12 21:48:00 -
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I can already see 1000s of covetors camping yoru station
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Pwny McPwnerson
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Posted - 2006.04.12 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Eternal Fury Naverin is now Kill on sight by all the ebayers.. :)
They're all going to wardec him, no doubt.
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Naverin
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Posted - 2006.04.12 21:53:00 -
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Lol ive already got My local asfdsde characters in Tash-murkon Prime..
=( Maybe they will call all their friends and we can have a macro party in system..
:/ ______________________ I am the carebear...
who doesnt use the "Correct Dread"
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Lonectzn
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Posted - 2006.04.12 22:41:00 -
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$40US for a t2 fitted Typhoon? C'mon.
I'm surprised at the exchange rate for ISK. Never looked those places before, completely not worth it. Though I guess at the same time that's what makes time cards -so- worth it =)
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Vincent Rainbow
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Posted - 2006.04.12 23:04:00 -
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CCP have a 'legal team' ?
What do they do?
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Amthrianius
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Posted - 2006.04.12 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Rainbow CCP have a 'legal team' ?
What do they do?
Oveur & TomB bought a copy of "legal issues for dummies"[
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Verizana
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Posted - 2006.04.12 23:23:00 -
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Originally by: Vincent Rainbow CCP have a 'legal team' ?
What do they do?
Ice T cop set.
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The TX
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Posted - 2006.04.12 23:35:00 -
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CCP to eBay: 'All your ISK are belong to us'
eBay to CCP: 'OMG you guyz pwn!, here, take the ISK, we no want it'
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HUGO DRAX
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Posted - 2006.04.12 23:50:00 -
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A Deimos for 60 USD lol!!!
I can just imagine some loser paying 60 bucks for a deimos and then getting ganked. Poof 30 seconds later and 60 dollars down the tube.
Dont just complain, do something. Channel macrointel meet with likeminded folks, spottings,intel |
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing eBay probably take some persuading to let go of revenue
"Hey, your website claims it will remove the sale of intellectual property. Remove ours, orwe'll have mr. Sue make you remove it."
I'm sure there would be enough legally to go to court over if eBay claims/advertises that it removes intellectual property, but doesn't.
I know I've sent lots of eBay listings to get removed, but no idea if they did or got bought/ran out of time.
Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 13/04/2006 01:21:30
Originally by: Eternal Fury Naverin is now Kill on sight by all the ebayers.. :)
But he's probably NAPed by everyone else.
Besides, I'd love to have ebayers put me as KOS, I could use a bunch of kill-rights on macro miner groups.
Originally by: Amthrianius
Originally by: Vincent Rainbow CCP have a 'legal team' ?
What do they do?
Oveur & TomB bought a copy of "legal issues for dummies"[
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I thought that was to prop a busted leg on Oveur's desk?
Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |
Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.04.13 01:38:00 -
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Edited by: Maya Rkell on 13/04/2006 01:39:48
Originally by: kieron Naverin, I'm honestly not sure if that is something the legal team has tried or not. I've brought your post to their attention, I hope this is something you are correct in.
Yes, there is the verified rights IP program. HOWEVER, I suggest that your legal department read the fine print VERY closely. Star Sonata had a minor problem with this, and on reading the fine print backed away from using it and relied on working out who sellers were manually and banning them instead.
(There are some not-so-obvious implications which may or may not matter to CCP)
Also, unfortuately, forcing ebay to shut down sales has had, in other MMO's, little or no effect on the volume of secondary market trade...the selling shifts to other websites and suppliers where players are more easily scammed.
"The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer |
Ethan Tomlinson
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Posted - 2006.04.13 02:58:00 -
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im just curious but if ebay stopped seeling eve isk on request by ccp whats to stop somebody from starting up their own .com company strictly for the selling of online gaming equipment and currency for rl money using paypal or whatever...? could ccp take them to court? would they win or would they have to start selling isk just to pay the lawyer fee's...
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.04.13 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ethan Tomlinson im just curious but if ebay stopped seeling eve isk on request by ccp whats to stop somebody from starting up their own .com company strictly for the selling of online gaming equipment and currency for rl money using paypal or whatever...? could ccp take them to court? would they win or would they have to start selling isk just to pay the lawyer fee's...
There'd be nothing illegal going on, CCP can't take someone to court for breaking the EULA. They can, however, find out who they are and ban them.
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voogru
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Posted - 2006.04.13 03:30:00 -
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Edited by: voogru on 13/04/2006 03:30:56 The only way to stop ISK selling, is to ban players buying ISK.
No buyers = No sellers No sellers = No farmers No farmers = yay
Every time a player is banned for buying ISK, they should be named & shamed (character name only), as a deterent for other players to buy ISK.
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Remedial
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Posted - 2006.04.13 03:31:00 -
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Ebay are not legally accountable for players of an online game selling their accounts in violation of a private EULA agreement. Ebay isn't even facilitating illegal activity. People breaking Eve's EULA are not breaking the law, they are breaking a private contract with CCP to abide by certain rules in return for being allowed to play the game.
Now if there was a law on the books someplace that said that CCP had the right to sue Ebay for damages in the event Ebay facilitated a transaction detrimental to CCP, there might be some legal grounding. But as far as I know, there is no such law in either America or Iceland.
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Kraven Kor
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Posted - 2006.04.13 03:33:00 -
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Originally by: kieron Naverin, I'm honestly not sure if that is something the legal team has tried or not. I've brought your post to their attention, I hope this is something you are correct in.
I hereby offer my services to send you the links (in return for Isk, or maybe just some exotic dancers... LOTS of exotic dancers...)
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Joskken Inx
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Posted - 2006.04.13 03:52:00 -
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Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 13/04/2006 03:30:56 The only way to stop ISK selling, is to ban players buying ISK.
No buyers = No sellers No sellers = No farmers No farmers = yay
Every time a player is banned for buying ISK, they should be named & shamed (character name only), as a deterent for other players to buy ISK.
Yeah but the hard part is how do you prove character X bought ISK from character Y? You would have to have the seller provide all their records of sales, because browsing thru all those Eve auctions I don't see a single bidder using their in-game name. It's a huge mess, but to shut it down or ban someone you'd have to prove their was a "sale", otherwise it's just heresay and nothing more than delving into 1000's of stories and excuses and reasons. I honestly have no suggestion how to break it, save for expanding CCP online store and availibility of gamecards, or provide other, sanctioned venues to do business so at least CCP is still getting their cut. A slight example is Project Entropia (shuddering) their currency model, if anything, is worth examining to see how to improve and control currency trading. -------------- Semper Fidelis |
Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.04.13 03:59:00 -
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/signed
Originally by: Steven Gerrard Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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