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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
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Posted - 2014.02.16 06:39:00 -
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Why would I want CCP to work on the limited confines of a space station when they could work on limitless space. Thousands of systems? Give us millions. Let us truly explore. Make the universe so big that no one can control it all.
Hopefully the next few expansions focus on expansion, not contraction. This thread has so much content it may be 'Thread of the Year' and it is only January.
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Michael Ruckert
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2014.02.16 06:45:00 -
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OP needs logo. I provide one.
http://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/images/main_buzz_larger.jpg "No matter how well you perform there's always somebody of intelligent opinion who thinks it's lousy." - Laurence Olivier |
Alastair Ormand
Badger Badger Badger Apocalypse Now.
36
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Posted - 2014.02.16 07:56:00 -
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I would go further than walking in stations and move onto walking in ships. It would be a cool thing to do, specially for role players. It would give a sense of perspective and size. Look out of the ships main deck into space would be very cool I think. As well as move around the ammo and fuel bays etc.
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hedge betts Shiyurida
State Protectorate Caldari State
189
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Posted - 2014.02.16 11:16:00 -
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If you want WIS go play air rivals. It's a FTP game.
I can tell you first hand WIS is would be Sh!t. Eve is a space ship game first and foremost, leave it as is. Pog mo thoin |
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1170
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Posted - 2014.02.16 11:19:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Why would I want CCP to work on the limited confines of a space station when they could work on limitless space. Thousands of systems? Give us millions. Let us truly explore. Make the universe so big that no one can control it all.
Hopefully the next few expansions focus on expansion, not contraction.
+1
Expansion means more space to explore and shoot at stuff in.
Contraction means Eve is pregnant and that's just weird.
"Grr Kimmi-á Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide
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Erica Dusette
Nighthawk Exploration
2975
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Posted - 2014.02.16 11:24:00 -
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Inb4 Rhes
Also, I support WiS. Major (Ret.) Caldary Naval Militia | Morale Officer (Pinup model) Just an innocent explorer!-á pâä | -áWormhole Sisters of EVE Herrbert: "womwomwowmwoaugharwajwowoooommm"
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Arduemont
The State of War. Vendetta Mercenary Group
3085
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Posted - 2014.02.16 11:37:00 -
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Virtual space is not 'limitless'. A virtual space station has exactly the same capacity to be infinite as virtual space does. Also, if you did (by some giant stretch of the imagination) manage to make the universe infinite, no one would see each other. Because there are not infinite people to fill that space. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
16733
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Posted - 2014.02.16 12:04:00 -
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So you care about WIS, it's just that you care less?
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
107
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Posted - 2014.02.16 12:12:00 -
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Way to spell out the consensus, OP.
There hasn't been as much as a hint about furthering WIS since Incarna.
Whatever. Posting in pointless thread. I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
http://andallcombat.wordpress.com/current-tournament/ |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1697
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Posted - 2014.02.16 12:17:00 -
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You realise if you got every EVE player and put them all in the fastest ship, in one system in EVE, equally spaced it would take years and years for anyone to find another even with duel mwd 50k mps.
That's how much space there is in one system. Not spaces fault CCP doesn't know how to utilize in game resources. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
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Seven Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
854
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Posted - 2014.02.16 13:15:00 -
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This is fresh and original. |
Noddy Comet
Lysdexic Agnostics - Thier is no Dog
148
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Posted - 2014.02.16 16:36:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:
There hasn't been as much as a hint about furthering WIS since Incarna.
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Except for that part where it was relayed that WiS was shelved, team Avatar doesn't exist any more and probably not going to be put back on life support any time soon,
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174634
yeah, not a hint. "The biggest problem with quotes on the Internet, is that just because it's on the Internet too many believe them to be real" -Abraham Lincoln's "Berlin Wall" speech at the 1984 Winter Olympics. |
Lex Gabinia
Res Repetundae
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Posted - 2014.02.16 16:58:00 -
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Alastair Ormand wrote:I would go further than walking in stations and move onto walking in ships. It would be a cool thing to do, specially for role players. It would give a sense of perspective and size. Look out of the ships main deck into space would be very cool I think. As well as move around the ammo and fuel bays etc.
Sigh...doesn't anyone realize that as a POD pilot that to control your ship you must be in the POD. How exactly do you expect to walk around the ship as it is in space?
No one reads about this game's foundations anymore do they?
I mean if you are truly a role player then this idea should make you ill. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
723
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Posted - 2014.02.16 17:00:00 -
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care less than what? the title is meaningless without the value with which your caring is less then. lets put caring on a scale from 0-100. since you are caring less than a number on this scale we can rule out zero. Or prehaps you used to care a lot and now care less. Please clear up the confusion. tia. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Pok Nibin
Filial Pariahs
239
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Posted - 2014.02.16 17:08:00 -
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Great idea! Only....goons would never go for it. It'd mean they'd have to actually be able to read a map. Maybe the abstract checkerboard is best. Dont fight it; Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs; You know you want to. |
Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
108
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Posted - 2014.02.16 17:10:00 -
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Noddy Comet wrote:Victor Andall wrote:
There hasn't been as much as a hint about furthering WIS since Incarna.
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Except for that part where it was relayed that WiS was shelved, team Avatar doesn't exist any more and probably not going to be put back on life support any time soon, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=174634 yeah, not a hint.
And those are all hints on FURTHERING WIS?
Did you even read what I said? I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
http://andallcombat.wordpress.com/current-tournament/ |
Arduemont
The State of War. Vendetta Mercenary Group
3090
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Posted - 2014.02.16 17:37:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote: And those are all hints on FURTHERING WIS?
Did you even read what I said?
He read it, and it was wrong to the point of stupid. Incarna only released one captains quarters. The other three were released during Crucible. Also, the Avatar exploration prototype was created and talked about after Crucible. That's just to start. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf |
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
181
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Posted - 2014.02.16 17:58:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:Why would I want CCP to work on the limited confines of a space station when they could work on limitless space. Thousands of systems? Give us millions. Let us truly explore. Make the universe so big that no one can control it all.
Hopefully the next few expansions focus on expansion, not contraction.
dont ppl already complain about how much of null sec space is already empty, or more or less unused? in a way it seems counter productive adding hundreds or more new systems, if theres already plenty but are empty.
adding additional content which can be directly worked into industry and trading - such as the eva/implant stuff ccp once communicated about sounds way more interesting, and usefull as well as fun. As opposed to more empty 0.0 systems.
They definately wont be making high sec any bigger |
Gregor Parud
241
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Posted - 2014.02.16 18:04:00 -
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So, the OP cares about WiS. Good to know.
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Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
26
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Posted - 2014.02.16 18:05:00 -
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Kimmi Chan wrote:Nexus Day wrote:Why would I want CCP to work on the limited confines of a space station when they could work on limitless space. Thousands of systems? Give us millions. Let us truly explore. Make the universe so big that no one can control it all.
Hopefully the next few expansions focus on expansion, not contraction. +1 Expansion means more space to explore and shoot at stuff in. Contraction means Eve is pregnant and that's just weird.
What is not being seen is there will be limited paths to new space and those points will be controlled. Also the smaller guys won't be able to make the push because the larger groups will roll right on in with no effort. |
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Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1051
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Posted - 2014.02.16 18:08:00 -
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hedge betts Shiyurida wrote:If you want WIS go play air rivals. It's a FTP game.
I can tell you first hand WIS is would be Sh!t. Eve is a space ship game first and foremost, leave it as is.
Eve is not a space ship game, eve is actually about electricity, without electricity you can't do anything in eve, ergo eve is not a space ship game but a game about electricity.
Nice avatar by the way... Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1051
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Posted - 2014.02.16 18:14:00 -
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Lex Gabinia wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote:I would go further than walking in stations and move onto walking in ships. It would be a cool thing to do, specially for role players. It would give a sense of perspective and size. Look out of the ships main deck into space would be very cool I think. As well as move around the ammo and fuel bays etc.
Sigh...doesn't anyone realize that as a POD pilot that to control your ship you must be in the POD. How exactly do you expect to walk around the ship as it is in space? No one reads about this game's foundations anymore do they? I mean if you are truly a role player then this idea should make you ill. On second thought, go ahead and walk around your ship; but, when you get blown up then it's game over for you. That character is well and truly dead forever. Dying shouldn't be too hard as you'll have almost no control over your ship or its systems without being in the freaking pod. Enjoy your new EvE experience!
according to the lore you have a pod gantry just behind the bridge. You can walk about and interact with the crew but it is dangerous as you and only you provide the command and control systems for the entire ship meaning that the ship is out of control for as long as you are out of the pod and you are also vulnerable to a disgruntled crewman sticking a knife in your back. Only an idiot of a capsuleer would do it. But for ship inspections in hanger I have no problem with it which I think is what Alistair had in mind.
This is Eve not star trek or wing commander. This is Eve and everybody understands that, so in other words don't jump to conclusions and put words in the mouths of others in order to derail a thread. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4793
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Posted - 2014.02.16 18:43:00 -
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Everyone who knows me knows I'm not into the space barbie crap and a lot of WiS supporters who post talking about who "WiS would attract more players, especially women" don't do anyhting but turn me further away from it.
But real gameplay, like boarding ships, using powersuits and MTACs for real in incursions rushing some sansha station docking ring, EVA in exploration sites or a whole new profession (Doctor/Coroner) where people coupld bring you a corpse and (with enough skill and some luck) extract the implants and hardwirings/enhancement from it and resell them. Well I could sure as hell dig that.
But the whole "it will lets us be social and go to a bar and where different clothes" and crap, you can keep that noise. EVE is a spaceship game, the only things that should ever be added to it are things that directly enhance the spaceship aspect. Period. |
Ronny Hugo
Dark Fusion Industries Limitless Inc.
56
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Posted - 2014.02.16 18:47:00 -
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@OP, I like the concept of the universe being so big the playerbase is too small to control more than lets say 10% of it. Having thousands of uncontrolled systems would be epic. Maybe we could fit in some environmental hazard systems also (newly formed solar systems with planets still forming, quasars and pulsars that make the system deadly in cycles, etc). But it could also be boring, if for example there's few gates that make the travel shorter, or if people never meet ever again because its so far between blocs. But maybe that would have its own value, would allow more creation (if we just had something more than outposts, capitals and POSes to build). |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1051
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Posted - 2014.02.16 19:02:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Everyone who knows me knows I'm not into the space barbie crap and a lot of WiS supporters who post talking about who "WiS would attract more players, especially women" don't do anyhting but turn me further away from it.
But real gameplay, like boarding ships, using powersuits and MTACs for real in incursions rushing some sansha station docking ring, EVA in exploration sites or a whole new profession (Doctor/Coroner) where people coupld bring you a corpse and (with enough skill and some luck) extract the implants and hardwirings/enhancement from it and resell them. Well I could sure as hell dig that.
But the whole "it will lets us be social and go to a bar and where different clothes" and crap, you can keep that noise. EVE is a spaceship game, the only things that should ever be added to it are things that directly enhance the spaceship aspect. Period.
That's my vision for WIS too, eve is brutal and dystopian, capsuleers are not social animals, but ruthless machines of war that will use any tool possible to complete their goals. Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Mors Magne
Terra Incognita Insidious Empire
70
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Posted - 2014.02.16 19:47:00 -
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If you want WiS and everything that Eve has to offer, Star Citizen might be the game for you.
Here, the Chairman of the Star Citizen project - Chris Roberts - explains how things are progressing:
Star Citizen update
So far, the game has attracted $38 MILLION for its development.
It promises to have everything that Eve Online has and far more.
CCP dropped the ball with WiS sometime in 2008 (when they sold out to Sony). It's good to see somebody else, who has more vision, pick that ball up and aim to make a game that has a proper sci fi universe - not just boats in lots of empty space. |
Johan Civire
The Lyran Empire
831
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Posted - 2014.02.16 20:11:00 -
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Mors Magne wrote:If you want WiS and everything that Eve has to offer, Star Citizen might be the game for you. Here, the Chairman of the Star Citizen project - Chris Roberts - explains how things are progressing: Star Citizen updateSo far, the game has attracted $38 MILLION for its development. It promises to have everything that Eve Online has and far more. CCP dropped the ball with WiS sometime in 2008 (when they sold out to Sony). It's good to see somebody else, who has more vision, pick that ball up and aim to make a game that has a proper sci fi universe - not just boats in lots of empty space.
Lol SC is not eve dude. World of Warcraft is Not lord of the rings online. And go on. people will stay the making a break after that the just return if you have spend allot of money effort and time in this game you know you will not bail on it.
Stop trolling dude. Eve will not going anywhere when SC is release. The will suffer sure. But its just 1/10 of that. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1052
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Posted - 2014.02.16 20:24:00 -
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to be fair he didn't say that eve was going anywhere. I'll remind you that until we had the nex/pay to win riots Eve was the original star citizen.
Can you imagine how huge eve would be right now, if that had been allowed to develop?
Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
Lex Gabinia
Res Repetundae
0
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Posted - 2014.02.16 20:43:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote: It would give a sense of perspective and size. Look out of the ships main deck into space would be very cool I think.
This is Eve and everybody understands that, so in other words don't jump to conclusions and put words in the mouths of others in order to derail a thread.
As I was basing my response on the above quoted line by the OP (emphasis mine), perhaps it is you that are putting words into the mouths of others. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld White Mountain Coalition
1054
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Posted - 2014.02.16 21:22:00 -
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Lex Gabinia wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:Alastair Ormand wrote: It would give a sense of perspective and size. Look out of the ships main deck into space would be very cool I think.
But for ship inspections in hanger I have no problem with it which I think is what Alistair had in mind...This is Eve and everybody understands that, so in other words don't jump to conclusions and put words in the mouths of others in order to derail a thread. As I was basing my response on the above quoted line by the OP (emphasis mine), perhaps it is you that are putting words into the mouths of others.
apologies, I am not a native english speaker I missed that in translation.
Respect 07 Dumbing down of Eve Online will result in it's destruction... |
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