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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.03.28 16:28:00 -
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"EDIT: my caps button was on "
CAPS LOCK, THE CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL :p
re: the original subject ... think the main difference is in attitude, really.
From the outside, the CA appeared tad bit too hung up on being "enfant terrible" of alliances in eyes of general public ... sometimes it felt like it's all held together by "we are the biggest, the meaniest and the most evil. you must hate us... don't you? don't you? pleeeeease, hate us. Everyone else in EVE does, why won't you? We're evil, after all. And everyone hates us."
With BoB it feels more along lines of "We do what we like, and if you don't like it, tough." That is, there's more stress on what one does than what one is. (which is not to say there isn't lot of egocentric things when it comes to BoB, as it'd be obviously a silly claim... but it's not all about ego, which makes the crucial difference that i hope remains)
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2006.03.28 16:31:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine From the outside, the CA appeared tad bit too hung up on being "enfant terrible" of alliances in eyes of general public ... sometimes it felt like it's all held together by "we are the biggest, the meaniest and the most evil. you must hate us... don't you? don't you? pleeeeease, hate us. Everyone else in EVE does, why won't you? We're evil, after all. And everyone hates us."
Well, that wasn't really how we felt, we were really surprised sometimes at the amount of people who hated us, and we didn't know why.
I think after CA died or something, people finally got the clue 0.0 combat doesn't make you a pirate. -----------------------------------
btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai |
Xelios
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Posted - 2006.03.28 16:38:00 -
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Of course we'll do some fighting, but not with nearly the same zeal we had in the FIX conflict.
Signature removed. -Zhuge ([email protected]) Woot.
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j0sephine
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Posted - 2006.03.28 16:40:00 -
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"Well, that wasn't really how we felt, we were really surprised sometimes at the amount of people who hated us, and we didn't know why."
Aye, i figure this is different when one is on the "inside" and has more insight into things that are happening within the alliance ^^
But if you aren't... well, this was the impression i'd gather overall from things the CA members would say in the forum threads concerning them. Suspect the ironic part is, there's quite likely plenty people who see BoB in similar manner, and it's also due to how the forum threads go ^^;;
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2006.03.28 16:40:00 -
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So in other words you feel beaten, fighting a hopeless battle.
I see. -----------------------------------
btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai |
Xelios
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Posted - 2006.03.28 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni So in other words you feel beaten, fighting a hopeless battle.
I see.
Sure, keep putting words into my mouth. That's fine, what you believe is of no concern to me. I've said my piece, feel free to smack it up as much as you like.
Signature removed. -Zhuge ([email protected]) Woot.
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Kayosoni
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Posted - 2006.03.28 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: j0sephine
But if you aren't... well, this was the impression i'd gather overall from things the CA members would say in the forum threads concerning them. Suspect the ironic part is, there's quite likely plenty people who see BoB in similar manner, and it's also due to how the forum threads go ^^;;
I won't say it didn't boost our egos a bit -----------------------------------
btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai |
Luc Boye
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Posted - 2006.03.28 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Xelios
Originally by: Kayosoni So in other words you feel beaten, fighting a hopeless battle.
I see.
Sure, keep putting words into my mouth. That's fine, what you believe is of no concern to me. I've said my piece, feel free to smack it up as much as you like.
AKA "I really don't know what to reply on that one"
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2006.03.28 17:00:00 -
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It's amusing how SA have gone from crying "come on BoB, bring it, what are you waiting for?" to "IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU!!!! WE'RE NOT GONNA FIGHT U COZ ITS FIX WOT WE WUS SHOOTIN!!"
If it isn't about us then why are MASS allowing themselves to be camped in to stations in completely the wrong reason? Perhaps you'd like us to draw thenub a map so he can help the rest of your "alliance"?
Current RKK Ranking: (CAL15) Gensui |
Xelios
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Posted - 2006.03.28 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Xelios on 28/03/2006 17:04:06 You're also free to believe what you want, I expect your smack and it really doesn't phase me. BoB just wouldn't be BoB without that forum warrior instinct of "What can I say to make my forum opponent look as noobish as possible?". Must be lots of fun, but I'm really not into it.
Also what I've said is my opinion, and you'll find that I've NEVER asked BoB to "bring it" on the forums. Like I said, I couldn't care less about trying to defend my ep33n against you.
Signature removed. -Zhuge ([email protected]) Woot.
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Joan Smith
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Posted - 2006.03.28 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni
Originally by: DB Preacher
BoB will never be the new CA because the old CA was led by Xirtam and Duke Droklar.
We're lead by people with a clue.
lol. I can agree xirt doesn't have a clue, but duke was a great leader. Don't forget that your corp sucked REAL hard back then.
Anyway, to the OP, I think we'd shoot you (SA) a billion years before we shoot bob. Not to mention, for some reason, you seem to be ****ing off everyone in eve these days. Doesn't that make YOU the new CA?
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Baun
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Posted - 2006.03.28 17:10:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 28/03/2006 17:10:42 BOB really controls Delve and PB and in Fountain they come through when they want to (no one can stop them) but on a day to day basis they have very little control over anything. The only sense if which they control a region like that is that it happens to be near the places they actually live in such that they can zerg it with large fleets and get there in a few dread jumps to take down POSs.
I don't think the comparison the OP makes is valid. BOB is alot more efficient than CA ever was and until recently alot less territorial. In the past, when isk was alot more scarce, the deploying of an outpost or two might have moved BOB toward a weaker, more CA-like position, but I don't really see that hapenning.
The again BOB isn't lead by people nearly as cool as Xirt :p
The Enemy's Gate is Down
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2006.03.28 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: DB Preacher We're lead by people with a clue.
and people with horseshat attitudes like you
you guys ever going to grow up
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ponieus
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Posted - 2006.03.28 17:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kayosoni
Originally by: Xelios Enjoy camping stations.
So SA's grand strategy to win this war is to not fight. Excellent strategy I must admit.
read sig.. another one.. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2006.03.28 17:38:00 -
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jesus...
No BOB will never be CA or like CA and not because CA was something special BOB cant be..
this game have changed so much in time and the PPL running teh big alliance have changed.
CA was Special BOB is special yeah even G is special and so is IRON in there own way....
let CA be what it was and BOB what it is.
and go enjoy the game as it is not what u imagination can dream up of scenarios that never will happend.
Bringing pain to a place near you
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Lord Cyric
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Posted - 2006.03.28 18:17:00 -
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To be honest I liken G/Iron to be more like CA than any other entity in the game. In it's prime CA was a thing of beauty, and from the outside anyway, G/Iron appear to be similar.
Lots of similarities, you could liken the G/Iron split to the CA/Rus Team split, both factions seem to play eve entirely for fun and constantly fighting someone. Would go across the map to invade people they didn't like, and neither necessarily cared what anyone around them thought of what they were doing, and proceeded to do it regardless. They both are/were made up of highly competant people who took advantage of every resource available to them.
I could go on and on, but I don't think it's that far of a reach to see a lot of similarities between the two. I don't see a lot of similarities between CA and BOB to be honest, 5 would probably be a closer comparison but until recently (maybe not even now I don't know) they didn't really have a home.
Just my thoughts and this wasn't meant to be a flame on G/Iron. Like I said, in it's prime CA was a thing of beauty, and in my opinion captured what this game is about. They didn't try to turn it into another SIMS game which seems to be where we are headed.
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Aeaus
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Posted - 2006.03.28 18:40:00 -
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I fail to see the purposes of these threads.
So far there have been nearly an uncountable number of posts about BoB becoming weak, BoB falling apart, BoB turning into a failing alliance.
But propaganda is used for the purpose of decreasing morale or public opinion; doesn't that make the postees' Alliances weak? Why do half of these threads have to be started by an alt.
As for SA, well honestly you guys are nothing more then a child kicking a grown man. You only choose to inflict damage through gank squads and the like jumping system to system and hiding in the NPC Stations. There is a complete futility to "invading" Delve when your enemy is FiX. It's past time for SA to admit their faulted position. It's past time for SA to stop declaring war on your neighbors and then offering very little actual combat.
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DeadProphet
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Posted - 2006.03.28 19:13:00 -
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respect for the main posting and for the honesty, DarkZaion
\o/\o/
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YodaMasterJedi
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Posted - 2006.03.28 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: DeadProphet respect for the main posting and for the honesty, DarkZaion
\o/\o/
I'd like to buy this gentleman a beer and a lapdance respect for your respect
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Coug
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Posted - 2006.03.28 19:46:00 -
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BoB is what FA wanted to be (but couldn't): An Industrial, Financial powerhouse with an experienced and effective military.
BoB: FA Done Right
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Sir JoJo
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:02:00 -
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Originally by: Coug BoB is what FA wanted to be (but couldn't): An Industrial, Financial powerhouse with an experienced and effective military.
BoB: FA Done Right
LOL i am pretty sure thats its not really FA bob wanted to be compared to ;)
Bringing pain to a place near you
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Sir JoJo
Originally by: Coug BoB is what FA wanted to be (but couldn't): An Industrial, Financial powerhouse with an experienced and effective military.
BoB: FA Done Right
LOL i am pretty sure thats its not really FA bob wanted to be compared to ;)
Quiz: Who were the founding corps of FA and where are they now? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
DarkZaion
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: DeadProphet respect for the main posting and for the honesty, DarkZaion
\o/\o/
cheers
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Lag Fest
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Posted - 2006.03.28 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Sir JoJo
Originally by: Coug BoB is what FA wanted to be (but couldn't): An Industrial, Financial powerhouse with an experienced and effective military.
BoB: FA Done Right
LOL i am pretty sure thats its not really FA bob wanted to be compared to ;)
Quiz: Who were the founding corps of FA and where are they now?
haahhahaahahha i just can't ******* belive what i'm reading.... u guys seriously need to get out of those stations and stop minig veldspar in empire and get some success on ur own... BoB : FA done right OMG the joke of the YEAR!!!
THX for ur stupidity.. now run along to the TRADE channel and go :"WTB a CLUE"
hahahahah jesus i can't stop laughing _______________________________________
Loved by some Hated by many Feared by all
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Prydeless
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:01:00 -
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BOB will never be or amount to what CA was. never.
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:07:00 -
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You can **** in one hand , and wish in the other and see what one fills up first, there will be no alliance that would rival CA.
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ponieus
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Prydeless BOB will never be or amount to what CA was. never.
ummm.. ok.. BoB is more powerfull in eve atm than CA could of ever of dreamed..
but your right you cant compare the two. The game was totally differnt when CA was at its prime.. --------------------------------------------- Maybe we will win the war by getting every bob pilot banned from eve maybe.:/
--thebold |
Arkaine
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Prydeless BOB will never be or amount to what CA was. never.
An incoherent mess of corps?
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Lag Fest
haahhahaahahha i just can't ******* belive what i'm reading.... u guys seriously need to get out of those stations and stop minig veldspar in empire and get some success on ur own... BoB : FA done right OMG the joke of the YEAR!!!
THX for ur stupidity.. now run along to the TRADE channel and go :"WTB a CLUE"
hahahahah jesus i can't stop laughing
Your character started the March 8, 2005. You are not being compared to that FA (of which I was a member), you are being compared to the FA of 2003 - ie before you (or I - I started on Jaunary 4, 2004) even started the game. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
Alberta
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Posted - 2006.03.28 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Alberta on 28/03/2006 21:18:01
Originally by: Lag Fest
Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Sir JoJo
Originally by: Coug BoB is what FA wanted to be (but couldn't): An Industrial, Financial powerhouse with an experienced and effective military.
BoB: FA Done Right
LOL i am pretty sure thats its not really FA bob wanted to be compared to ;)
Quiz: Who were the founding corps of FA and where are they now?
haahhahaahahha i just can't ******* belive what i'm reading.... u guys seriously need to get out of those stations and stop minig veldspar in empire and get some success on ur own... BoB : FA done right OMG the joke of the YEAR!!!
THX for ur stupidity.. now run along to the TRADE channel and go :"WTB a CLUE"
hahahahah jesus i can't stop laughing
There's far more truth in that than you're giving credit for tbh.
EDIT: The interesting thing's gonna be to step back and have a look in a year or 2 and see if it's still being done right.
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