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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
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Posted - 2014.01.03 19:42:00 -
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I have been thinking about how the CSM wants to nerf drone assist because the mechanic is flawed in their opinion.
For carriers i would say yes it is for sub caps i would say are you nuts!?!?!?
Carriers are a special thing, they have gigantic drone bays and huge corp hangars... which give them an endless supply of drones... that with the huge EHP and RR makes the ship OP.
First I thought well just make a separate drone bay and fighter bay... but that will not solve anything because the carriers will just fill up the CHA with sentries.
so what is the solution?
will they do something silly like remove drone assist all together and **** off allot of people who donGÇÖt use slowcats but use drone assist daily for missions and small scale pvp? I sure hope not.
For me Sub cap drone assist is balanced. Sub cap ships are limited in drone bay size and are somewhat squishy.
The only logical solution is to remove the drone bay all together from carriers. kill them with fire.
Carriers have a special drone called fighters. that is what they are supposed to use.
the best thing is fighters cannot be set to assist only to assign.
But MeBiatch does this mean no more sentry carriers?
not at all! What it means is we need a new sentry fighter!!! a new class of fighter that acts half sentry half fighter.
that way you no longer have a infinite amount of sentries that a carrier can field and since the sentry fighters are the size of regular fighters they can be eliminated by shooting them.
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Thatt Guy
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.03 19:46:00 -
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0/10
Incoming "don't nerf carriers" threadnaught. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2014.01.03 19:50:00 -
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Hmmm, wasn't there already a thread for collecting goon tears about drone assist being balanced ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Prie Mary
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.01.03 19:57:00 -
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I missed this entirely after being away for 6 months..
Please tell me this is just forum trolling..... I fear another rage quit is on the cards if not Dont just think outside the box, Live outside of it... |
Apollo Manton
SVER Bloodpack Insidious Empire
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:17:00 -
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You realize that a carriers fleet and cargo hold is almost always filled with spare modules or fuel right? Not drones. I honestly can even believe that this is a thing right now. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:23:00 -
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Drone assist should not be touched. It is a blob sec problem only, not an Eve problem. Most people viewed Orwell's writings as a warning. The harper regime and the goons treat them as a guidebook. |
Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:25:00 -
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I said it in another thread, and I'll say it again. Nerf SP!! |
Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:26:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Drone assist should not be touched. It is a blob sec problem only, not an Eve problem.
Agree. Don't touch it. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1911
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:28:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Drone assist should not be touched. It is a blob sec problem only, not an Eve problem.
Mittens wants it changed, so it will be changed.
Then the goons will be able to boast, 'all your game are belong to us'
I hope that time will show I am wrong about this. This is not a signature. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:36:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Drone assist should not be touched. It is a blob sec problem only, not an Eve problem. Mittens wants it changed, so it will be changed. Then the goons will be able to boast, 'all your game are belong to us' I hope that time will show I am wrong about this. Uh huh. Like the remote aoe doomsday titans, it was just goons metagaming ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
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MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1652
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:41:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Drone assist should not be touched. It is a blob sec problem only, not an Eve problem.
indeed and this would not touch drone assist only carriers which is the source of the problem not the mechanic There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
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Posted - 2014.01.03 20:41:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Drone assist should not be touched. It is a blob sec problem only, not an Eve problem. Mittens wants it changed, so it will be changed. Then the goons will be able to boast, 'all your game are belong to us' I hope that time will show I am wrong about this. Uh huh. Like the remote aoe doomsday titans, it was just goons metagaming
no but there was loads of tears before the SC nerf. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.01.03 21:33:00 -
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DAM U CCP!!!! Y U MAKE ME ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME INSTEAD OF ME MAKING SANDWICH AND TAKE NAP WHILE I KILLMAIL *****?!?!?!?!
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6062
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Posted - 2014.01.03 21:57:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:DAM U CCP!!!! Y U MAKE ME ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME INSTEAD OF ME MAKING SANDWICH AND TAKE NAP WHILE I KILLMAIL *****?!?!?!?! No it doesn't count. You're not just poking the thing to get on killmail, your dps is hitting it in a perfectly coordinated manner ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1652
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Posted - 2014.01.03 22:38:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:DAM U CCP!!!! Y U MAKE ME ACTUALLY PLAY THE GAME INSTEAD OF ME MAKING SANDWICH AND TAKE NAP WHILE I KILLMAIL *****?!?!?!?! No it doesn't count. You're not just poking the thing to get on killmail, your dps is hitting it in a perfectly coordinated manner
Which is fine due to the nature of how drones work.
Again assist is not the problem. Carrierd having drones is the problem There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Victoria Sin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
531
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Posted - 2014.01.03 22:43:00 -
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I think there should be drone assist and advanced drone assist skills. Each level allows you to take control of one other drone. Or if you like, 5 x level, whatever.
Is it unlimited at the moment? I've often given my drones to drone droid in gang, but I've never received them. |
Carmen Electra
The Scope Gallente Federation
200
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Posted - 2014.01.03 22:49:00 -
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We need MOAR threads about this. Also, nerf skill points. |
Alice Ituin
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:00:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:Again assist is not the problem. Carrierd having drones is the problem Oh, drone assist is a problem too, but the bigger one is having a BS sized weapons system on a capital hull....
Drone assist is a weird thing. Why is it the only weapons system that can be assisted? Drones are a completely normal weapons system like any other, so why can't I set my lasers to assist, too? Why are we allowed to assist dps drones but not repair drones? |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6065
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:06:00 -
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Alice Ituin wrote:MeBiatch wrote:Again assist is not the problem. Carrierd having drones is the problem Oh, drone assist is a problem too, but the bigger one is having a BS sized weapons system on a capital hull.... Drone assist is a weird thing. Why is it the only weapons system that can be assisted? Drones are a completely normal weapons system like any other, so why can't I set my lasers to assist, too? Why are we allowed to assist dps drones but not repair drones? If you assist repair drones, don't they rep whatever is agressed? ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6065
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:07:00 -
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Victoria Sin wrote:I think there should be drone assist and advanced drone assist skills. Each level allows you to take control of one other drone. Or if you like, 5 x level, whatever.
Is it unlimited at the moment? I've often given my drones to drone droid in gang, but I've never received them. Yes, you can have 2500 drones assisted to you. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:38:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Victoria Sin wrote:I think there should be drone assist and advanced drone assist skills. Each level allows you to take control of one other drone. Or if you like, 5 x level, whatever.
Is it unlimited at the moment? I've often given my drones to drone droid in gang, but I've never received them. Yes, you can have 2500 drones assisted to you. Technically 3750, but nobody's going to make a carrier fleet with 5 DCUs on every carrier. Latest video - Pandemic Legion titan and supers killed |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:46:00 -
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Alice Ituin wrote: Drone assist is a weird thing. Why is it the only weapons system that can be assisted? Drones are a completely normal weapons system like any other, so why can't I set my lasers to assist, too? Why are we allowed to assist dps drones but not repair drones?
Your lazors autocannons blasters and railguns are deployable and be killed now?
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1652
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:51:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: Yes, you can have 2500 drones assisted to you.
Technically 3750, but nobody's going to make a carrier fleet with 5 DCUs on every carrier.
Or 1250 if you removed drones from carriers. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
3744
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Posted - 2014.01.03 23:53:00 -
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No nerfs, please.
Just make a new ship. A wee little space sled that can carry a bunch of Dust mercs with combat shotguns. That'll take those pesky drones off the field with panache.
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Knights Armament
We Chosen Chaos'd all over you non-factors
188
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:35:00 -
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drone assist isn't essential in making slowcats function, it isn't that difficult to broadcast a target and have everyone shoot it, drone assist is working as intended from day 1. You have a computer system, you tell your computer to tell your drones to assist a ship in space, it sounds like everyone hates realism.
Nerfing drone assist won't make carriers useless, but it is a pointless and obviously bias game change that would show that CCP only cares what null sec alliances care about. http://evemouthbreathers.blogspot.com/
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:37:00 -
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Knights Armament wrote:drone assist isn't essential in making slowcats function, it isn't that difficult to broadcast a target and have everyone shoot it, drone assist is working as intended from day 1. You have a computer system, you tell your computer to tell your drones to assist a ship in space, it sounds like everyone hates realism.
Nerfing drone assist won't make carriers useless, but it is a pointless and obviously bias game change that would show that CCP only cares what null sec alliances care about. The archons can't target 179 km out though, worse still, they could be damped. ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
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Knights Armament
We Chosen Chaos'd all over you non-factors
188
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Posted - 2014.01.04 00:43:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Knights Armament wrote:drone assist isn't essential in making slowcats function, it isn't that difficult to broadcast a target and have everyone shoot it, drone assist is working as intended from day 1. You have a computer system, you tell your computer to tell your drones to assist a ship in space, it sounds like everyone hates realism.
Nerfing drone assist won't make carriers useless, but it is a pointless and obviously bias game change that would show that CCP only cares what null sec alliances care about. The archons can't target 179 km out though, worse still, they could be damped.
That might force them to field motherships
http://evemouthbreathers.blogspot.com/
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2014.01.04 01:06:00 -
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As there is already a thread on the same topic, this one gets a lock.
The rules: 16. Redundant and re-posted threads will be locked.
As a courtesy to other forum users, please search to see if there is a thread already open on the topic you wish to discuss. If so, please place your comments there instead. Multiple threads on the same subject clutter up the forums needlessly, causing good feedback and ideas to be lost. Please keep discussions regarding a topic to a single thread.
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