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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.02.24 15:51:00 -
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Last night at the Marginis outpost in KDF, a correspodent from the ISD showed up in a Polaris shortly after we had generated a cyno field.
Having set up a large defensive station camp, including a couple of dreads (more as a show of force, than anything) we encountered a friendly fire incident, which was quickly resolved.
However, the ISD correspondent didn't really help us by a: being there, or b: saying a few unhelfpul things in local, and being a general distraction.
If you guys want to do your thing, thats fine, but can you cloak and be silent while you do it.
Thanks 
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Fooball
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Posted - 2006.02.24 15:58:00 -
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They should especially shut up in local. Why? Because it's wrong if some other people can have different colors on chat but I don't. GRRRR!
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2006.02.24 16:04:00 -
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I wondered what that ship was! Why were they there anyway?
~Free production, refining and POS resouces site~ |

Matthew
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Posted - 2006.02.24 16:06:00 -
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I assume you've read the sticky in the corp&alliances forum about the correspondant's work, how to contact them etc? ------- There is no magic Wand of Fixing, and it is not powered by forum whines. |

Colonel O'Neill
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Posted - 2006.02.24 16:11:00 -
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Edited by: Colonel O''Neill on 24/02/2006 16:11:53
Originally by: Butter Dog If you guys want to do your thing, thats fine, but can you cloak and be silent while you do it.
I agree with you. They can't be impartial observers if they are interfering, positively or negatively.
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Kylania
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Posted - 2006.02.24 16:12:00 -
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I'm confused.. some moron shoots his own side and you blame ISD? -- Lil Miner |

Dr Happy
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Posted - 2006.02.24 16:13:00 -
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Originally by: Kylania I'm confused.. some moron shoots his own side and you blame ISD?
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no they shot isd
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.02.24 16:22:00 -
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I don't 'blame' ISD for anything.
I'm just saying that if they are going to observe something happening, they should cloak and be silent about it.
It was a delicate situation and I don't think the ISD banter in local helped. Thats all. I don't blame them for the incident itself, obviously.
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.24 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Happy
Originally by: Kylania I'm confused.. some moron shoots his own side and you blame ISD?
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no they shot isd
You cant shoot the isd, their ships cannot be locked...
Blaming the ISD for your own screwups is bad. -------
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.02.24 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
You cant shoot the isd, their ships cannot be locked...
Blaming the ISD for your own screwups is bad.
Did you read my post?
I didnt blame the ISD for anything. I simply said that that they should cloak and maintain silence, and that I didnt think their comments in local were helpful given the delicate nature of the situation.
------------------ The viewpoints expressed are my own, not necessarily those of my Corporation or Alliance. |
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Jinx Barker
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Posted - 2006.02.24 16:49:00 -
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As far as I know, ISD always stays in character when they are out in public. At least they try. At the same time, where there is an ISD little Ploaris, you can bet there is also a GM nearby, since you cant see GMs in local, you would never know.
Now, how can we jusdge wether ISD said something silly or not, since we dont know what he/she said. Also, since ISD are part of the game itself, meaning they are not involved in Game Moderation or Management, they are NOT GMs or Mods. You can post a link to a conversation w/o any fear of repricussions from the "EVE Gods". That way we can all participate in the fun and see if ISD/In Character chat was apropriate or not.
Untill then, I cant pass any opinions otther than personal expirience. I have seen ISD/IC in Polaris, a correspondent in action during fleet battle few months ago. When he was asked to move away from the fleet, he apologised (In Character) and moved to an observation post of 400K away - where he/she observed the battle.
What I did notice is allot of cursing in local because they could not kill the frigate. I dont understand why would you want to kill it, it has nothing of value on it, well almost nothing, I heard they carry TomB's Modified Mining lasers, those suckers suck roids like fish water. 
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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.02.24 16:59:00 -
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Since you asked, the ISD correspondent expressed dissapointment that the situation didnt escalate into full-scale conflict, which I thought was inappropriate.
I honestly think they should just remain silent and cloaked, thats not so hard to do is it?
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Coconut Joe
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Posted - 2006.02.24 17:04:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog Since you asked, the ISD correspondent expressed dissapointment that the situation didnt escalate into full-scale conflict, which I thought was inappropriate.
I honestly think they should just remain silent and cloaked, thats not so hard to do is it?
Reporters are ment to assess the situation visualy as well as verbaly.  ----
Sneeze and the whole world sneezes with you, fart, and you fart alone. |

Jinx Barker
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Posted - 2006.02.24 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog Since you asked, the ISD correspondent expressed dissapointment that the situation didnt escalate into full-scale conflict, which I thought was inappropriate.
I honestly think they should just remain silent and cloaked, thats not so hard to do is it?
Ok, #1 I think the fact that IC "expressed disappointment that the situation didnÆt escalate into full-scale conflict" was not the most 'diplomatic' or æsensitiveÆ thing to say. I agree with you on that.
#2 I believe IC/ISD presence can be fun sometimes. It can actually serve the interests of fair reporting, we all know in Alliance warfare a lost enemy BS can be quickly turned into a "Pimped Out Dread" and so forth.
They (IC/ISD) inject a degree of accountability and provide stories that ensure greater degree of immersion. If they are forced into cloaked/invisible mod, then any party can state that ISD/IC was NOT there and are not reporting the truth. ISD/IC have to be visible and have to be able to interact with any member of EVE. So, I would disagree with you on the points of "Silence" and "Cloaking".
Other than that, I guess you can write to ISD people and file an official Protest. Hell, ISD is supposed to be RPing part of the game. You can make an official ISS complaint, stir it up and make it fun for everyone. 
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DukDodgerz
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Posted - 2006.02.24 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Coconut Joe
Originally by: Butter Dog Since you asked, the ISD correspondent expressed dissapointment that the situation didnt escalate into full-scale conflict, which I thought was inappropriate.
I honestly think they should just remain silent and cloaked, thats not so hard to do is it?
Reporters are ment to assess the situation visualy as well as verbaly. 
true to a point, but they do not talk to the generals and civilian leaders WHILE observing and reporting live events...
the ISD meber in question should be asked nicely by his superiors to follow protocol and not interject their opion into the conflict, that is taking sides and is not reporting as we know it. English only, please. -Capsicum translation of old sigy - Bad People Suck |

Cabadrin
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Posted - 2006.02.24 17:23:00 -
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You should have used the reporter to get your point of view across. It doesn't take much work to task someone with talking to them and giving out information. And if you really don't want them, then send them my way I'll talk their ear off! _______________________________________________
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Brastagi
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Posted - 2006.02.24 17:31:00 -
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An ISD correspondent in training maybe? ---------
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Eris Discordia

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Posted - 2006.02.24 19:10:00 -
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At the moment the reporters do not have the ability to cloak and while we understand our presence is a distraction we believe it is important that people know when we are there.
I would like to receive a copy of the log if this is possible, please mail it to [email protected]
If a fleet leader or commander finds us distracting it can help to contact the reporter and explain the situation, then the reporter can judge whether it's news worthy enough to watch everything unfold or come back when he is contacted again.
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Hllaxiu
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Posted - 2006.02.24 19:37:00 -
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Originally by: Coconut Joe
Originally by: Butter Dog Since you asked, the ISD correspondent expressed dissapointment that the situation didnt escalate into full-scale conflict, which I thought was inappropriate.
I honestly think they should just remain silent and cloaked, thats not so hard to do is it?
Reporters are ment to assess the situation visualy as well as verbaly. 
They're not supposed to advocate violence though. I doubt that a reporter would try and goad people into a fight in this universe, especially when each battleship is crewed by thousands of people.
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Wanoah
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Posted - 2006.02.24 19:43:00 -
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ISS do some more carebear stuff isn't quite as a good a story as ISS kick some pirate butt and build something or other. Any reporter would want to see some violence for that reason. 
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.02.24 19:57:00 -
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Originally by: Wanoah ISS do some more carebear stuff isn't quite as a good a story as ISS kick some pirate butt and build something or other. Any reporter would want to see some violence for that reason. 
but whining about it on local is out of order IMO
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Joshua Foiritain
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Posted - 2006.02.25 14:24:00 -
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Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: Coconut Joe
Originally by: Butter Dog Since you asked, the ISD correspondent expressed dissapointment that the situation didnt escalate into full-scale conflict, which I thought was inappropriate.
I honestly think they should just remain silent and cloaked, thats not so hard to do is it?
Reporters are ment to assess the situation visualy as well as verbaly. 
They're not supposed to advocate violence though. I doubt that a reporter would try and goad people into a fight in this universe, especially when each battleship is crewed by thousands of people.
Of course he/she would, you think hippies hugging each other during times of peace sells newspapers? Of course not, we want to see hordes of unevolved goons smashing each others brains in with high tech weaponry over a few shiney rocks.  -------
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.02.25 16:26:00 -
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I'm confused on what ISS was doing in the first place.
Did you have intelligence that somebody was coming to attack you?
Or did you just feel like whipping out your genitalia and hoping somebody passing by noticed and said "Wow!"? And in the process you nearly shot your own nuts off? -------------------------------------[04:04:04] Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk
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