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Bromothymol
Ixion Defence Systems Tactical Narcotics Team
5
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Posted - 2012.02.08 04:52:00 -
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In the last CSM election procedings you (mittens) spoke frequently about the limitations of the CSM, encouraging people who would listen to maintain a realistic view of what the CSM can and can not accomplish. With a year on the CSM under your belt, do you see the role of the CSM any differently now? What are realistic expectations for us plebians for the CSM in the next 12 months, barring any more emergency summits?
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Imryn Xaran
Coherent Light Enterprises
22
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Posted - 2012.02.08 13:04:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Quebber wrote:You have been quite vocal when it comes to the RMT and Botting that it is up to CCP to police there own game how exactly does that reconcile in your own and the CSM's role of "policing" ccp, bringing players together to fight any changes in eve that are seen as wrong or impact the game as a whole.
How can you justify sitting on the fence and saying it is not ours or a players problem, I agree ccp needs to put more effort into dealing with these problems but as my local police man told me "we can not be everywhere, we need your help and comunity support to deal with these issues" If we do not take a stand if leaders do not help set a standard nothing that ccp does will solve this.
This may be their world but it is our home. I have actually left alliances and lost "friends" because I did what I believe was right in standing up to RMT and botters. It's impossible for me to tell who's a dedicated ratter and who's a 'bot', and it's not my job. I'm not paid by CCP to play GM. If you find a bot, click 'report bot' and the Security Team - who actually has access to logs and evidence - can sort things out. Alliance leaders have no evidence, just hearsay and endless finger-pointing. Witch hunts accomplish nothing save feed the egos of the ignorant and self-righteous (that's you).
I have read somewhere that your position on this in your alliance is that if you rat on a fellow goon for botting you get kicked.
Please clarify what your personal stance is on this issue and if necessary explain how you justify setting a double standard; one for your fellow goons and one for the rest of the community.
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N'maro Makari
The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative
33
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Posted - 2012.02.08 13:08:00 -
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Do you have any plans for lo sec, hi sec and/or WH space communities? N'maro Makari Special Investigative Officer The Synenose Accord Celestial Imperative |
Orion GUardian
118
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Posted - 2012.02.08 14:03:00 -
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Imryn Xaran wrote:The Mittani wrote:Quebber wrote:You have been quite vocal when it comes to the RMT and Botting that it is up to CCP to police there own game how exactly does that reconcile in your own and the CSM's role of "policing" ccp, bringing players together to fight any changes in eve that are seen as wrong or impact the game as a whole.
How can you justify sitting on the fence and saying it is not ours or a players problem, I agree ccp needs to put more effort into dealing with these problems but as my local police man told me "we can not be everywhere, we need your help and comunity support to deal with these issues" If we do not take a stand if leaders do not help set a standard nothing that ccp does will solve this.
This may be their world but it is our home. I have actually left alliances and lost "friends" because I did what I believe was right in standing up to RMT and botters. It's impossible for me to tell who's a dedicated ratter and who's a 'bot', and it's not my job. I'm not paid by CCP to play GM. If you find a bot, click 'report bot' and the Security Team - who actually has access to logs and evidence - can sort things out. Alliance leaders have no evidence, just hearsay and endless finger-pointing. Witch hunts accomplish nothing save feed the egos of the ignorant and self-righteous (that's you). I have read somewhere that your position on this in your alliance is that if you rat on a fellow goon for botting you get kicked. Please clarify what your personal stance is on this issue and if necessary explain how you justify setting a double standard; one for your fellow goons and one for the rest of the community.
The goosn position on this is: It is not their job to find botters and report them that is the work of the GMs. You cannot prove that anyone you suspect is really a botter.
At the same time they have a kind of code "Don't **** a fellow goon" which reaches in all areas. no blue shooting, no detsroying of assets no stealing etc. And yes no "reporting" of any kind because they cannot proof it anyway and might just bring alot of unjustified attention ot a fellow member that might just have been very diligent.
So instead of going into witch hunts, reporting everyone and their mom for suspected botting they just leave it to the GMs to find perpetrators. That has nothing to do with double standards.
I mean: How would YOU as a player PROVE that someone is using a Macro? You can't, there are only indicators but never proof. So its just "When in doubt, innocent!".
Example: If a friend of yours eats alot of chocolate bars but you have never seen him buy one. YOu may suspect he STEALS chocolate bars but would you report him to the police because you COULD come to the conclusion? (If yes I don't want to be a friend of yours ;))
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2958
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Posted - 2012.02.08 15:22:00 -
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Che Biko wrote: As I see it there no way a group of independant people could organize themselves in a way that would attract a similar amount of votes from people that would otherwise not vote for the CSM, or to organize and monitor voting in a similar way (yes, I am assuming a lot of goons would not have voted for the CSM if they were not asked to vote for one of their members.) They don't have the pre-existing communication lines with large amounts of players (not to mention the command and obey nature of the mentioned groups). This gives large alliances/corps/blocs candidates an advantage other candidates do not have. Candidates belonging to large groups could possibly be voted into the CSM just because they asked their groups to do so.
Do you see this possible advantage as a problem, and if not, why not?
People always get mad at the idea that organization matters in democracy, and imply that organization is somehow undemocratic.
Mostly, I just chuckle when people reach for authoritarian solutions while bleating about 'real' democracy when someone they dislike wins due to (gasp) having more votes. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2958
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Posted - 2012.02.08 15:26:00 -
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Bromothymol wrote:In the last CSM election procedings you (mittens) spoke frequently about the limitations of the CSM, encouraging people who would listen to maintain a realistic view of what the CSM can and can not accomplish. With a year on the CSM under your belt, do you see the role of the CSM any differently now? What are realistic expectations for us plebians for the CSM in the next 12 months, barring any more emergency summits?
The situation is a bit more fluid these days. After the Jita Riots/Emergency summit, the CSM has much more influence than it did previously, as CCP's management appears to have stopped drinking koolaid. But then, influence is by nature fluid.
I still think that 'pet issue' candidates are a waste of time, and it's better to focus on effective advocates for constituencies. IE, a solid WH guy, a solid FW guy, a solid lowsec guy, etc. The primary purpose of the modern, post-CSM6 is an advocacy group, happy to try to work with CCP towards common goals, but alert and prepared to fight against virtual pants or anomaly nerf blogs. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2958
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Posted - 2012.02.08 15:32:00 -
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N'maro Makari wrote:Do you have any plans for lo sec, hi sec and/or WH space communities?
Nope. My value to those communities comes from the fact that the CSM under my guidance is an effective body that gets things done. I personally defer to folks like Two Step on WH issues or Meissa on lowsec issues, or forward the commentary of outside experts such as Hans to CCP w/r/t FW. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Imryn Xaran
Coherent Light Enterprises
22
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:07:00 -
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Orion GUardian wrote:Imryn Xaran wrote:The Mittani wrote:Quebber wrote:You have been quite vocal when it comes to the RMT and Botting that it is up to CCP to police there own game how exactly does that reconcile in your own and the CSM's role of "policing" ccp, bringing players together to fight any changes in eve that are seen as wrong or impact the game as a whole.
How can you justify sitting on the fence and saying it is not ours or a players problem, I agree ccp needs to put more effort into dealing with these problems but as my local police man told me "we can not be everywhere, we need your help and comunity support to deal with these issues" If we do not take a stand if leaders do not help set a standard nothing that ccp does will solve this.
This may be their world but it is our home. I have actually left alliances and lost "friends" because I did what I believe was right in standing up to RMT and botters. It's impossible for me to tell who's a dedicated ratter and who's a 'bot', and it's not my job. I'm not paid by CCP to play GM. If you find a bot, click 'report bot' and the Security Team - who actually has access to logs and evidence - can sort things out. Alliance leaders have no evidence, just hearsay and endless finger-pointing. Witch hunts accomplish nothing save feed the egos of the ignorant and self-righteous (that's you). I have read somewhere that your position on this in your alliance is that if you rat on a fellow goon for botting you get kicked. Please clarify what your personal stance is on this issue and if necessary explain how you justify setting a double standard; one for your fellow goons and one for the rest of the community. The goosn position on this is: It is not their job to find botters and report them that is the work of the GMs. You cannot prove that anyone you suspect is really a botter. At the same time they have a kind of code "Don't **** a fellow goon" which reaches in all areas. no blue shooting, no detsroying of assets no stealing etc. And yes no "reporting" of any kind because they cannot proof it anyway and might just bring alot of unjustified attention ot a fellow member that might just have been very diligent. So instead of going into witch hunts, reporting everyone and their mom for suspected botting they just leave it to the GMs to find perpetrators. That has nothing to do with double standards. I mean: How would YOU as a player PROVE that someone is using a Macro? You can't, there are only indicators but never proof. So its just "When in doubt, innocent!". Example: If a friend of yours eats alot of chocolate bars but you have never seen him buy one. YOu may suspect he STEALS chocolate bars but would you report him to the police because you COULD come to the conclusion? (If yes I don't want to be a friend of yours ;))
Thank you for responding on behalf of the candidate GÇô it is a pity he doesnGÇÖt want to answer the question directly but it is understandable.
He says GÇ£If you find a bot, click 'report botGÇ¥, but you say GÇ£Don't **** a fellow goon". These are entirely contradictory positions to take.
Again I ask Mittani to clarify his position on this important issue. Does he support CCP in their efforts to eliminate RMT and botting or is he the pro RMT and botting candidate that advocates not reporting suspected bots?
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2962
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:09:00 -
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Imryn Xaran wrote:
Thank you for responding on behalf of the candidate GÇô it is a pity he doesnGÇÖt want to answer the question directly but it is understandable.
He says GÇ£If you find a bot, click 'report botGÇ¥, but you say GÇ£Don't **** a fellow goon". These are entirely contradictory positions to take.
Again I ask Mittani to clarify his position on this important issue. Does he support CCP in their efforts to eliminate RMT and botting or is he the pro RMT and botting candidate that advocates not reporting suspected bots?
this is a 'when did you stop beating your wife' question, ARE YOU A PRO RMT PRO BOT CANDIDATE
i don't grace people like you with answers, it's been discussed at length in this thread previously but you're too lazy to read and don't actually care, you just want to bleat
baaa baaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1037
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:12:00 -
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The Mittani wrote: At the summit, CCP suggested testing new capture mechanics on FW; the idea didn't originate with me. There was no discussion of 'linking' the systems as you imply.
Stop trying to use me as a boogeyman and mentioning me in every other post, or if you do it, you should at least get the facts straight.
CSM Minutes wrote:Some CSMs suggested that FW could be used as a testbed for new capture mechanics, since FW would be smaller scale than nullsec.
(emphasis mine)
Would you mind sharing with the voter community who exactly suggested this? You have already stated it wasn't you. I'm hoping you can either clarify this, or if you don't feel comfortable outing the person who proposed this initially, I'm hoping the CSM6 member who did has the integrity to step forth and take responsibility.
Thank you, much appreciated!
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2962
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:14:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote: Would you mind sharing with the voter community who exactly suggested this? You have already stated it wasn't you. I'm hoping you can either clarify this, or if you don't feel comfortable outing the person who proposed this initially, I'm hoping the CSM6 member who did has the integrity to step forth and take responsibility.
Thank you, much appreciated!
I'm pretty sure it came from CCP first, but I certainly agree with it. I'd rather new capture mechanics be tested on FW before being inflicted on nullsec.
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Imryn Xaran
Coherent Light Enterprises
22
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:42:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Imryn Xaran wrote:
Thank you for responding on behalf of the candidate GÇô it is a pity he doesnGÇÖt want to answer the question directly but it is understandable.
He says GÇ£If you find a bot, click 'report botGÇ¥, but you say GÇ£Don't **** a fellow goon". These are entirely contradictory positions to take.
Again I ask Mittani to clarify his position on this important issue. Does he support CCP in their efforts to eliminate RMT and botting or is he the pro RMT and botting candidate that advocates not reporting suspected bots?
this is a 'when did you stop beating your wife' question, ARE YOU A PRO RMT PRO BOT CANDIDATE i don't grace people like you with answers, it's been discussed at length in this thread previously but you're too lazy to read and don't actually care, you just want to bleat baaa baaaa baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
And still no answer.
Question: How do you justify your contradictory position on reporting bots? You encourage the general EVE playerbase to use the report a bot feature, but kick your own corp members if they report one of their own. Please explain, or can we just assume that goonies are special little snowflakes who are allowed to ignore the rules? |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
64
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:56:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:People always get mad at the idea that organization matters in democracy, and imply that organization is somehow undemocratic. Well, part of a democratic process is that they get equal "media exposure". One could say that the goons have a similar advantage as a candidate in control of a nations media, like Berlusconi or some "elected" dictators. (I know this is somewhat of a mismatched comparison, but I can't think of a better real-world comparison at the moment.)
How would a candidate be able to build an organization that has the same benefits as the one you belong to? |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2973
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Posted - 2012.02.08 17:16:00 -
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Goonswarm has no special media coverage on the eve-o forums; in fact, we mostly ignore these forums as they're a cesspool and largely irrelevant to the election process.
You're making a democracy+ argument; democracy is voting ~plus~ x, y and z. Any candidate can make an organization to back them, as long as they have the leadership talent and skill. 90% of CSM candidates are typical EVE spergs, however, and assume that with a spreadsheet and a few long-winded posts they should sail to victory, and when they don't sail to victory it's a failure on the part of the process, rather than a failure to organize. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
64
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Posted - 2012.02.08 17:46:00 -
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I did not say that you had special coverage on the eve forum, I was talking about the goon forum. What you said that only makes the state media comparison more valid: goons regard the eve forum as irrelevant to the election process and thus some goons will not even know about other candidates who post there and not on the goon forum.
I don't see the democracy + argument, I am just talking about what is generally considered one of the requirements for a free election. That includes things like having multiple parties, anonymous voting, and equal media coverage. While this is not in a strict sense part of the democratic definition, it is part of a democracy as I'd like to see it.
I know any candidate can make an organization from scratch to back them, but not every candidate can use an existing organization. Having communication lines with thousands of people who mostly ignore the forums is not something you can just create out of thin air. |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2975
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Posted - 2012.02.08 17:59:00 -
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Che Biko wrote: I know any candidate can make an organization from scratch to back them, but not every candidate can use an existing organization. Having communication lines with thousands of people who mostly ignore the forums is not something you can just create out of thin air.
Hi, I've been a director in Goonfleet since January 2006 and have helped build GSF up from nothing in S-U8A4 - despite the entire game banding together to try to kill us and drive us out for ~daring~ to play Eve Online and not be a part of their old guard club - to being somewhat successful in nullsec.
I helped build my organization, as did the rest of our people. It took work and overcoming more opposition than anyone has seen in this game; we had to win the Great War, with the help of our allies, to even survive.
~so sorry~ if I don't give a **** about your 'a bloo bloo bloo goons have a powerful organization' whines. We built it, because you all tried to destroy us. When you kick puppies, sometimes those puppies grow up to become wolves, and then they vote with discipline and purpose and take over the CSM. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2975
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:01:00 -
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why are candidates who post a bad thread with no backing or organization getting steamrolled by those who have been in leadership positions for years with the same group of pilots through incredible adversity?
it must be because ~nullsec people are sheep~, rite? The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
64
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:26:00 -
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Yeah, I knew I should have written "existing, non-CSM-related organization". It seems you think having to build a goon size alliance is now a perfectly acceptable requirement for equal CSM election participation.
BTW I love how your respectful composure is lost when someone does not conform to your opinion or shuts up within 3 posts of discussion, and start calling them whiners, stupid or other degoratory terms. Chairman material. I wish you acted the same in your discussions with the CSM and CCP. |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2982
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:30:00 -
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Che Biko wrote:Yeah, I knew I should have written "existing, non-CSM-related organization". It seems you think having to build a goon size alliance is now a perfectly acceptable requirement for equal CSM election participation. BTW I love how your respectful composure is lost when someone does not conform to your opinion or shuts up within 3 posts of discussion, and start calling them whiners, stupid or other degoratory terms. Chairman material. I wish you acted the same in your discussions with the CSM and CCP.
yeah, because everyone's opinion deserves respect
lawl The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
333
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Posted - 2012.02.08 19:33:00 -
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Imryn Xaran wrote:
And still no answer.
Question: How do you justify your contradictory position on reporting bots? You encourage the general EVE playerbase to use the report a bot feature, but kick your own corp members if they report one of their own. Please explain, or can we just assume that goonies are special little snowflakes who are allowed to ignore the rules?
Edit: No it hasn't been discussed in this thread previously, so please answer the question.
How the hell can mittens tell if one of his members reported another member for botting or not? I'm just a pubbie, but I *HIGHLY* doubt that mittens has some sort of anti-bot-reporting counter intelligence system set up to weed out members who report bots to CCP. That's just plain silly. The fact of the matter is that if a goon wanted to report another goon for botting, there is nothing that mittens can do to stop it.
Now, I wouldn't actually put it past mittens to have actually be opposed to goons reporting other goons. But I wouldn't put it past him to be the other way around either. We are just a couple of pubbies and the only thing we can see out here is a bunch of hot gas being spouted between two sides of an argument.
If you think that he is a bot loving RMTer, then don't vote for him - simple as that. If you hate that he is a self-admitted sadistic bastard, then don't vote for him.
As for me, I may yet vote for him - I begrudgingly admit that the CSM has been surprisingly competent and effective under his leadership. I highly doubt that he has some sort of hidden tin-foil-hattery agenda to revive some sort of age-old plot to destroy EVE. He has had PLENTY of chances to allow CCP to do just that this past year. |
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Raptor217
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
34
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:29:00 -
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Mittani how are you going to celebrate you're reelection?
Also, never stop shazbotting or spamming fractals. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
50
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Posted - 2012.02.08 21:12:00 -
[562] - Quote
Taedrin wrote:I highly doubt that he has some sort of hidden tin-foil-hattery agenda to revive some sort of age-old plot to destroy EVE. He has had PLENTY of chances to allow CCP to do just that this past year. It would doubtless be a lot harder than nodding and saying "oh yes, titans are perfectly balanced" and "we love walking in stations."
Might have to try something like "funnel some dev time into Dust, the trickle down effects will definitely be worth it". |
Zordon
Sundown Logistics SpaceMonkey's Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 21:48:00 -
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Sir Mitten's
About the nullsec miner, for us that 'wish' to support large construction methods, would you toss around the idea of Random-roids in the grav site?
To explain this, the small grav site has a ginormous Spodumain rock that the site is anchored around... It's roughly 4 mil m3 in size or 250,000 units. Even if this rock would shift as the site respawns with different ores, totaling in the same (average) value based on the market. (IE with 16 base types of ore, shift based off how common in new-eden they are)
This would have a minimal effect on the actual isk value of the site, but lead to self-sustainability for 0.0 alliances with a strong industrial side. And also lead to a change in need for the mineral compression from high-sec. The compressions would still be needed because building a titan still needs loads of minerals and I know nobody that would mine that in an efficient manner.
I know this is a fail post, and definatly troll worthy, but I hope it comes across as understandable and you could possibly lay out an answer.
Zordon Monkey 4 Life |
Imryn Xaran
Coherent Light Enterprises
25
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Posted - 2012.02.09 07:55:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:Imryn Xaran wrote:
And still no answer.
Question: How do you justify your contradictory position on reporting bots? You encourage the general EVE playerbase to use the report a bot feature, but kick your own corp members if they report one of their own. Please explain, or can we just assume that goonies are special little snowflakes who are allowed to ignore the rules?
Edit: No it hasn't been discussed in this thread previously, so please answer the question.
How the hell can mittens tell if one of his members reported another member for botting or not? I'm just a pubbie, but I *HIGHLY* doubt that mittens has some sort of anti-bot-reporting counter intelligence system set up to weed out members who report bots to CCP. That's just plain silly. The fact of the matter is that if a goon wanted to report another goon for botting, there is nothing that mittens can do to stop it. Now, I wouldn't actually put it past mittens to have actually be opposed to goons reporting other goons. But I wouldn't put it past him to be the other way around either. We are just a couple of pubbies and the only thing we can see out here is a bunch of hot gas being spouted between two sides of an argument. If you think that he is a bot loving RMTer, then don't vote for him - simple as that. If you hate that he is a self-admitted sadistic bastard, then don't vote for him. As for me, I may yet vote for him - I begrudgingly admit that the CSM has been surprisingly competent and effective under his leadership. I highly doubt that he has some sort of hidden tin-foil-hattery agenda to revive some sort of age-old plot to destroy EVE. He has had PLENTY of chances to allow CCP to do just that this past year.
I'm not asking him if his corp has an anti-bot program to sniff out members that bot. I have read that his rules for his corp are that if you report another member for botting, regardless of wether they are guilty or not, you get kicked. This seems to be in contradiction to his earlier statement in this thread where he encoraged players "if you see a bot, click report a bot".
I want clarification on this contradictory position. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1508
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Posted - 2012.02.09 07:57:00 -
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Imryn Xaran wrote:This seems to be in contradiction to his earlier statement in this thread where he encoraged players "if you see a bot, click report a bot".
Only if you're desperately cherry picking quotes to try and make it look like he supports botting.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Imryn Xaran
Coherent Light Enterprises
25
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Posted - 2012.02.09 08:02:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Imryn Xaran wrote:This seems to be in contradiction to his earlier statement in this thread where he encoraged players "if you see a bot, click report a bot". Only if you're desperately cherry picking quotes to try and make it look like he supports botting.
Have I quoted him out of context? If so I would be happy for him to tell me that. Of course that would mean that he is infact telling the playerbase "if you see a bot, DON'T click report a bot" which is not exactly a politically sound position to take is it?
Still waiting for the Mittani's clarification on this issue |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1999
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Posted - 2012.02.09 08:06:00 -
[567] - Quote
imryn xaran you're a worthless pubbie roleplayer, hth yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
264
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Posted - 2012.02.09 08:10:00 -
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Imryn, I think the goons mean, dont come to the mittani to report another goon a bot or so. Or dont go to another goon to report a goon being a bot.
Think you might still be able to click on the report a bot, but let CCP do the work of removing them and handling the bot issues not other goons handling that. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
Imryn Xaran
Coherent Light Enterprises
25
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Posted - 2012.02.09 08:26:00 -
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rodyas wrote:Imryn, I think the goons mean, dont come to the mittani to report another goon a bot or so. Or dont go to another goon to report a goon being a bot.
Think you might still be able to click on the report a bot, but let CCP do the work of removing them and handling the bot issues not other goons handling that.
Well that's not what I read. In the (leaked) article I saw he clearly stated that any goon who reported a fellow goon to CCP for botting would be kicked.
Still awaiting clarification, and loving all the goon tears |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1508
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Posted - 2012.02.09 08:31:00 -
[570] - Quote
Imryn Xaran wrote:[quote=rodyas]Well that's not what I read. In the (leaked) article I saw he clearly stated that any goon who reported a fellow goon to CCP for botting would be kicked.
Still awaiting clarification, and loving all the goon tears
I can clarify it for you. The "leaked article" you read was correct. It is against Goonswarm Federation policy to report another member of the alliance for botting.
What are you confused about?
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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