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Baaldor
In Igne Morim Easily Excited
136
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:12:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Silvetica Dian wrote:(...) Finally you are missing the adrenaline rush that many of us have only experienced in eve (outside of rl ofc) that comes from being hunted or being the hunter in this game. Seriously open up dotlan. look up the characteristics of a place you would like to visit and go take a visit. You will be surprised at the different ecosystems you can find in various areas of the map. Most people don't experience adrenaline rushes. A minority actually gets sick with them. As i said, EVE keeps luring wrong people because of its monopoly, but that's likely to change sooner than later once there are more options to play serious online space games.
Yes Eve is dying, new space pixel game will arrive soon to save the risk averse e-honor crowd.
After all the years of seeing all this tripe, it is obvious that 99.8% of all call out threads and whinenaughts are basically Trolls pulling out the small percentage of specialsnowflakes that play this game and whine about the sand in their va jay jay.
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Jamagh
Grand Violations
66
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:31:00 -
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low sucks. I have been there. Did not like it. Mining there was a pain. Made less isk than I did in high. Gave up and went null on my main. So far... I am enjoying it. Although I have been there only a day or so. "Please stop reopening silly rumor threads."-á CCP Navigator. |
Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
557
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:33:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Q: How to lure more players into lowsec? A: Don't shoot them unless they're war targets.
Your suggestion is alluringly simple. Maybe even to simple.
IT'S A TRAP! Stupidity should be a bannable offense.
Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance. |
Arduemont
12 pound opinion
2221
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:41:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Q: How to lure more players into lowsec? A: Don't shoot them unless they're war targets.
/me facepalm. *
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
TharOkha
0asis Group
622
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:43:00 -
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Lowsec is not just about isk/hr.( Also since CCP introducted Clone soldiers into low sec belts, it doesn't suck so bad anymore.) Lowec has its own "atmosphere" which i like. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
BoBoZoBo
Paragon Fury Tactical Narcotics Team
337
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:43:00 -
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Did you log into the right game forum to post this?
I think you have the wrong... environment Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
737
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:45:00 -
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Na Und wrote:And that's the point. I'm a carebear who pays for my sub with rl money because my rl does not allow me to make my home in low or nullsec. I don't understand why some people cannot accept my playstyle. (And I've never played WoW, by the way . . . and I don't care to . . . .) And I have ONE account, so stuff it, boxers.
Uhhh... I have a steady job (40hrs / 5 days a week) and I even run a small corporation... in lowsec, using a single character on a single account. I've been part of a smaller nullsec Alliance, and at one time I even lived in a wormhole. Still, I only have a couple of hours in the evening, maybe some more during the weekends. It's not about how much time you can play. It's about what you actually do with your time when you log in. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2232
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Posted - 2013.10.22 13:59:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Q: How to lure more players into lowsec? A: Don't shoot them unless they're war targets.
/me facepalm. *
It's cold outside of the box, isn't it? The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3129
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:01:00 -
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Baaldor wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Silvetica Dian wrote:(...) Finally you are missing the adrenaline rush that many of us have only experienced in eve (outside of rl ofc) that comes from being hunted or being the hunter in this game. Seriously open up dotlan. look up the characteristics of a place you would like to visit and go take a visit. You will be surprised at the different ecosystems you can find in various areas of the map. Most people don't experience adrenaline rushes. A minority actually gets sick with them. As i said, EVE keeps luring wrong people because of its monopoly, but that's likely to change sooner than later once there are more options to play serious online space games. Yes Eve is dying, new space pixel game will arrive soon to save the risk averse e-honor crowd.
+1 you had me laughing this morning :) .
I don't know why these folks can't understand that they are slaves to EVE and nothing is gonna change that. It's like when Star Trek online was announced and many of them bears yelled "EVE is gonna lose subs" after it was announced that STO would not have non-consensual pvp, would harshly punish any kind of "griefing" and would bascially have no real death penalty even in PVP.
You'd think they'd just leave EVe and go to their carebearing paradise that even lets you walk around in stations and on planets. but nooooo, to EVE they cling, using excuses like "well STO isn't a sandbox"...while they complain about the sandbox elements of EVE and live in EVE's themepark section (high sec).
It will be exactly that way with Star Citizen. They'll go there, find that it doesn't give them the things EVE does, and slnik right back here (quietly of course) only to begin posting anew that EVE is dying when the next space "savior" game appears on the horizon.
One day, nursing homes and retirement communities across Europe, Australia and North America will be filled with Alzheimers patients screaming "EVE is Dying" .. at least until they themselves actually die lol.
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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
218
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:26:00 -
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Karle Tabot wrote:
Are you wrong in what you posted above? Not in my opinion.
Now, were you to kill some new player and gloat over what in essence was a trained and experienced adult fighter beating up a new and inexperienced teenager, and then go to the forums and cry and whine that more such victims do not come to low and null sec to offer themselves as such sacrifices to your insatiable ego, then in that case, again in my opinion, you are indeed wrong, and it tells me a bit about who you are in real life. But Eve Online allows that, it encourages that, and it seems a very large number of players truly think doing that makes you or them look good.
If in some player's all around life that type thing truly passes for a noteworthy achievement they are truly proud of, I suppose I will have to have as much empathy for them as for their victim.
Well i am a 2013 char and moved to null within a couple of months. I prefer to shoot at larger gangs than at small gangs but will happily shoot anything that crosses my gunsights. Finding fights isn't too hard in lowsec. I would have hated it if no one had shot at me when i first started pvping "because i have too little SP to shoot at" My ego is easily sated ty. How someone plays a role playing game tells you virtually nothing about what they are like IRL. If you chat with them a lot in text and TS maybe you will learn a bit about what they are like IRL but even then you are missing too much context for any real accuracy. Telling someone they are playing with the sand incorrectly is laughable. I personally think more people should try out low and null and i think many of them would adapt quickly and find it rewarding. I don't think they are wrong to stay in highsec if they truely want to. Mining in highsec without a permit is wrong though. Botting is wrong. not giving a gf in local is also wrong (politeness costs nothing) after an alt of mine tried mining for a while i even offered one up to the person who suicide ganked my barge. (i had a permit too ) Marriage: The reason we build bars Galen Tyrol |
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Montine FleurdeLys
DEEP-13
10
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Posted - 2013.10.22 14:57:00 -
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Na Und wrote:I've never gotten the "let's move them to lowsec" argument. For example, tonight I have a game on the telly, and the usual . . . a dog who requires my attention. (Other people have family).
I might not even log on tonight, and if I do, I do not plan on devoting my attention to clicking a damn button every few seconds.
Agreed.
I used to live in nullsec and in low, so I know what it's like. I went back to hisec because I got tired of having to watch my back constantly. It takes too much mental energy than I want to spend to always have to be "on" like that. I decided that I like the safer hisec to just tool around in and relax after a hard days work without having to deal with fight or flight stresses and Dscanning every other second.
I'm not in it for the iskies or the killboard glory. I have lost more ships than I can remember, it's not a big deal. I just want to be able to relax in the evening in a cool space game. Maybe other hi sec residents feel this way too. |
Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3132
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Posted - 2013.10.22 15:10:00 -
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Montine FleurdeLys wrote:Na Und wrote:I've never gotten the "let's move them to lowsec" argument. For example, tonight I have a game on the telly, and the usual . . . a dog who requires my attention. (Other people have family).
I might not even log on tonight, and if I do, I do not plan on devoting my attention to clicking a damn button every few seconds. Agreed. I used to live in nullsec and in low, so I know what it's like. I went back to hisec because I got tired of having to watch my back constantly. It takes too much mental energy than I want to spend to always have to be "on" like that. I decided that I like the safer hisec to just tool around in and relax after a hard days work without having to deal with fight or flight stresses and Dscanning every other second. I'm not in it for the iskies or the killboard glory. I have lost more ships than I can remember, it's not a big deal. I just want to be able to relax in the evening in a cool space game. Maybe other hi sec residents feel this way too.
The bolded part is a lie. according to EVE Online's General Discussion forum, Null sec is safer than high sec, you don't even have to have local up it's so damn safe.
/sarcasm
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Na Und
Galactronics
75
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Posted - 2013.10.24 01:47:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Na Und wrote:And that's the point. I'm a carebear who pays for my sub with rl money because my rl does not allow me to make my home in low or nullsec. I don't understand why some people cannot accept my playstyle. (And I've never played WoW, by the way . . . and I don't care to . . . .) And I have ONE account, so stuff it, boxers. Uhhh... I have a steady job (40hrs / 5 days a week) and I even run a small corporation... in lowsec, using a single character on a single account. I've been part of a smaller nullsec Alliance, and at one time I even lived in a wormhole. Still, I only have a couple of hours in the evening, maybe some more during the weekends. It's not about how much time you can play. It's about what you actually do with your time when you log in.
We are talking past each other. Fact of the matter is, my rl responsibilities prevent me from devoting 100% of my attention to the game, when I'm logged-on. Oh, did I say the word, "game?" |
Na Und
Galactronics
75
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Posted - 2013.10.24 02:08:00 -
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Montine FleurdeLys wrote:Na Und wrote:I've never gotten the "let's move them to lowsec" argument. For example, tonight I have a game on the telly, and the usual . . . a dog who requires my attention. (Other people have family).
I might not even log on tonight, and if I do, I do not plan on devoting my attention to clicking a damn button every few seconds. Agreed. I used to live in nullsec and in low, so I know what it's like. I went back to hisec because I got tired of having to watch my back constantly. It takes too much mental energy than I want to spend to always have to be "on" like that. I decided that I like the safer hisec to just tool around in and relax after a hard days work without having to deal with fight or flight stresses and Dscanning every other second. I'm not in it for the iskies or the killboard glory. I have lost more ships than I can remember, it's not a big deal. I just want to be able to relax in the evening in a cool space game. Maybe other hi sec residents feel this way too.
Others will disagree, but the d-scan mechanic in this game probably is the most effed-up thing about it. I can jump into a system, and auto-scan for anomalies, but not for predators? Gimme a break.
That being said, the d-scan thing is so institutionally-entrenched that there's no hope of changing it for the better. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4143
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Posted - 2013.10.24 02:44:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:As i said, EVE keeps luring wrong people because of its monopoly, but that's likely to change sooner than later once there are more options to play serious online space games. Get the F*** out !
You are too ******* full of yourself !
Without us "wrong" people, this game wouldn't even exist ! Would never have !
You are weaklings ! We will decimate all of you, if you threaten us !
We don't need you ! CCP doesn't cater to you !
Thanks for your money, now shut the **** up ! |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1467
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Posted - 2013.10.24 06:22:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:How to get more players to leave highsec. Volume 1.
By Unsuccessful at Everything.
Shrink true highsec to only a few core systems with at least 1 lowsec system in between.
After 30 days, NPCs attack you for loitering in their space. Wanna stay longer, buy an empire visa.
NPC corps should have 30% taxes on everything (welcome to empire citizenship) includes visa holders.
Make NPC corps wardeccable via FW, this would include anyone who is staying in empire space with a visa.
Remove CONCORD in .7 and below systems, leave only slightly buffed NPC police and gate/station guns.
Reduce highsec asteroid belts to absolute bare minimum (its highsec empire space with a high population density, resources should be severely dimished due to NPC mining for 24000 years).
Remove 50% of highsec manufacturing slots (NPC competition).
Have tutorials actually get you ready for life on your own.
This list could go on for quite awhile....
Dear Unsuccessful at Everything, your application to CCP to help grow the customer base has been, well, unsuccessful.
Reason: The bean counters have determined that if your ideas were to be implemented, the four or so remaining players would not be enough to sustain the company as a viable financial concern.
We wish you luck and sincerely hope that you are more successful in your future endeavors. This is not a signature. |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2253
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Posted - 2013.10.24 07:39:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:As i said, EVE keeps luring wrong people because of its monopoly, but that's likely to change sooner than later once there are more options to play serious online space games. Get the F*** out ! You are too ******* full of yourself ! Without us "wrong" people, this game wouldn't even exist ! Would never have ! You are weaklings ! We will decimate all of you, if you threaten us ! We don't need you ! CCP doesn't cater to you ! Thanks for your money, now shut the **** up !
By the wrong players, I mean any of the following:
- carebears - soloers/non-multiplayers - hiseccers - PvErs/non-PvPers - casuals - WiSers (these are becoming exctinct) - failers/losers/misfits
You know, everyone who insists to play the game wrong, or tries to play it right but fails.
Roughly 60% of the players, actually, should rather be playing something else, but they aren't because there is no "something else". At the moment. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Baali Tekitsu
State Protectorate Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2013.10.24 08:23:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:As i said, EVE keeps luring wrong people because of its monopoly, but that's likely to change sooner than later once there are more options to play serious online space games. Get the F*** out ! You are too ******* full of yourself ! Without us "wrong" people, this game wouldn't even exist ! Would never have ! You are weaklings ! We will decimate all of you, if you threaten us ! We don't need you ! CCP doesn't cater to you ! Thanks for your money, now shut the **** up ! By the wrong players, I mean any of the following: - carebears - soloers/non-multiplayers - hiseccers - PvErs/non-PvPers - casuals - WiSers (these are becoming exctinct) - failers/losers/misfits You know, everyone who insists to play the game wrong, or tries to play it right but fails. Roughly 60% of the players, actually, should rather be playing something else, but they aren't because there is no "something else". At the moment.
Im already waiting for the SC beta, within 24h all the EvE players are going to have found the exploits and make the game as unenjoyable for carebears as EvE is. |
Baali Tekitsu
State Protectorate Caldari State
99
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Posted - 2013.10.24 08:29:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: gun ragequit
Byyyyy the wayyyyyy: can I have your stuff? |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2254
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Posted - 2013.10.24 08:54:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: gun ragequit
Byyyyy the wayyyyyy: can I have your stuff?
I am not quitting.
i am just kicking the ball back to PvPr's side. What can YOU do so YOU have more/better PvP? My suggestion: favor quality over quantity. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1275
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Posted - 2013.10.24 11:29:00 -
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Baali Tekitsu wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:As i said, EVE keeps luring wrong people because of its monopoly, but that's likely to change sooner than later once there are more options to play serious online space games. Get the F*** out ! You are too ******* full of yourself ! Without us "wrong" people, this game wouldn't even exist ! Would never have ! You are weaklings ! We will decimate all of you, if you threaten us ! We don't need you ! CCP doesn't cater to you ! Thanks for your money, now shut the **** up ! By the wrong players, I mean any of the following: - carebears - soloers/non-multiplayers - hiseccers - PvErs/non-PvPers - casuals - WiSers (these are becoming exctinct) - failers/losers/misfits You know, everyone who insists to play the game wrong, or tries to play it right but fails. Roughly 60% of the players, actually, should rather be playing something else, but they aren't because there is no "something else". At the moment. Im already waiting for the SC beta, within 24h all the EvE players are going to have found the exploits and make the game as unenjoyable for carebears as EvE is.
This. Count on it.
After all, "we" have had about a decade worth of experience doing it to this game. A new one ought to be easy.
And it's not like there aren't Goons in other games. Hell, I'm considering putting in my tenbux just for Star Citizen, once/if we get a release date. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Chandaris
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
455
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:13:00 -
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No. |
Spurty
V0LTA Triumvirate.
997
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:16:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Q: How to lure more players into lowsec?
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. GûÇGûêGûÇ GûêGûÇGûê GûÇGûêGûÇ-á-á-á-á-á GûêGûÇGûê GûêGûÇGûê GûêGûÇGûêGûÇGûê GûêGûæGûê GûæGûêGûæ GûêGûÇGûä GûæGûêGûæ-á-á-á-á-á GûêGûÇGûê GûêGûÇGûä GûêGûæGûêGûæGûê GûÇGûêGûÇ GûæGûÇGûæ GûÇGûæGûÇ GûÇGûÇGûÇGûæGûÇ GûÇGûæGûÇ GûÇGûæGûÇ GûÇGûæGûÇGûæGûÇ GûæGûÇGûæ |
TharOkha
0asis Group
628
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:20:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: By the wrong players, I mean any of the following:
- carebears - soloers/non-multiplayers - hiseccers - PvErs/non-PvPers - casuals - WiSers (these are becoming exctinct) - failers/losers/misfits
You know, everyone who insists to play the game wrong, or tries to play it right but fails.
Please show us how to build "the right" sandcastles in this SANDBOX game. GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan Turing Tested
935
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Posted - 2013.10.24 16:31:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
By the wrong players, I mean any of the following:
- Industrialists - Explorers/Scouts - hiseccers (Define this, I dont know what it is) - Mission runners seeking to run low-sec missions - People who only get time to play at the weekend - People who invest in the setting - People that I look down on
You know, everyone who insists to play the game wrong, or tries to play it right but fails.
Roughly 60% of the players, actually, should rather be playing something else, but they aren't because there is no "something else". At the moment.
Confirming Eve would be better without these people
And that no other games exist, or have ever existed High Priestess Designate, Heir to The Vestibule of The Temple of the Holy Amarr Suicide Cult of Haimeh |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
2257
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:19:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote: By the wrong players, I mean any of the following:
- carebears - soloers/non-multiplayers - hiseccers - PvErs/non-PvPers - casuals - WiSers (these are becoming exctinct) - failers/losers/misfits
You know, everyone who insists to play the game wrong, or tries to play it right but fails.
Please show us how to build "the right type" of sandcastles in this SANDBOX game.
Who, me? No, just ask around. Ask CCP why this people get no content, ask PvPrs, nullseccers and trolls why these people are continuosly demanded to have their content nerfed, i mean, just read the forums. The hostility is almost tangible sometimes. The Greater Fool Bar is now open for business, 24/7. Come and have drinks and fun somewhere between RL and New Eden! |
Richard Ramlrez
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:30:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:How to get more players to leave highsec. Volume 1.
By Unsuccessful at Everything.
Shrink true highsec to only a few core systems with at least 1 lowsec system in between.
After 30 days, NPCs attack you for loitering in their space. Wanna stay longer, buy an empire visa.
NPC corps should have 30% taxes on everything (welcome to empire citizenship) includes visa holders.
Make NPC corps wardeccable via FW, this would include anyone who is staying in empire space with a visa.
Remove CONCORD in .7 and below systems, leave only slightly buffed NPC police and gate/station guns.
Reduce highsec asteroid belts to absolute bare minimum (its highsec empire space with a high population density, resources should be severely dimished due to NPC mining for 24000 years).
Remove 50% of highsec manufacturing slots (NPC competition).
Have tutorials actually get you ready for life on your own.
This list could go on for quite awhile....
Watch the majority of player base quit tired from being harrased. You won't have your easy ganks and now the only PVP you will find will be against your own corp members.
Enjoy.
Gankers are really dumb to think PVErs would accept their terms. Notice i said gankers, not PVPers. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1277
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:40:00 -
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Richard Ramlrez wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:How to get more players to leave highsec. Volume 1.
By Unsuccessful at Everything.
Shrink true highsec to only a few core systems with at least 1 lowsec system in between.
After 30 days, NPCs attack you for loitering in their space. Wanna stay longer, buy an empire visa.
NPC corps should have 30% taxes on everything (welcome to empire citizenship) includes visa holders.
Make NPC corps wardeccable via FW, this would include anyone who is staying in empire space with a visa.
Remove CONCORD in .7 and below systems, leave only slightly buffed NPC police and gate/station guns.
Reduce highsec asteroid belts to absolute bare minimum (its highsec empire space with a high population density, resources should be severely dimished due to NPC mining for 24000 years).
Remove 50% of highsec manufacturing slots (NPC competition).
Have tutorials actually get you ready for life on your own.
This list could go on for quite awhile....
Watch the majority of player base quit tired from being harrased. You won't have your easy ganks and now the only PVP you will find will be against your own corp members. Enjoy. Gankers are really dumb to think PVErs would accept their terms. Notice i said gankers, not PVPers.
If you couldn't that Unsuccessful was trolling... Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
1142
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Posted - 2013.10.24 18:54:00 -
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I applaud the OP's idea but, asking a bunch of lazy, gate-camping, shoot everything that moves "leet PvPers" to moderate themselves is like asking an alcoholic not to drink at an open bar. When the world is running down, you make the best of what's still around. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1277
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Posted - 2013.10.24 19:06:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:I applaud the OP's idea but, asking a bunch of lazy, gate-camping, shoot everything that moves "leet PvPers" to moderate themselves is like asking an alcoholic not to drink at an open bar.
As opposed to what? A bunch of afk miners who can't be asked to orbit a roid or fit shield hardeners? Or the kind of player who is too lazy to use DotLan before jumping through a lowsec pipe? Or the kind of guy who can't be asked not to put 5 billion isk worth of stuff in a freighter, then autopilot 26 jumps to Jita? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
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