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Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
303
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:11:00 -
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So having left crusty echo chamber of the "CCP T20 Scandal Redux and Super Secret Don't Tell Anyone I Put My Ships In Your Corp Or You'll Get In Trouble" Marathon something occurred to me. Odds are CCP is going to do this again in another six months. Its literally like the little child that keeps severely cutting his or herself because they run with scissors. You'd think the pain from the first impalement/laceration would be enough of a lesson. You'd think a stern talking to and close supervision would remind the child not to do it a third time. Then around the 10th time and just as many blood transfusions you think "perhaps its downs syndrome" and despite best testing it isn't.
So you are left with two options. Do the reasonable thing and admonish the child stressing the importance of responsibility and safety. Then there is option two, the "unreasonable," which is to go around the house and remove all the scissors. Its when the hospital cafeteria punches your card for the 11th time getting you complimentary meal there that you realize getting rid of all the scissors isn't such a bad idea. Except in this case CCP is our suspect down's child and the scissors are Somer Blink.
Yes Somer Blink the horrible blend of crack and meth to you EVE players. But its also crack to CCP because it allows them the lazy way out of distributing ships. Its also the lighting rod for the recent outrage of the secretive EVE mails and blatant favoritism displayed by your favorite band of hapless Vikings. So we can't expect CCP to stop running with scissors but we can take the scissors out of the house.
Somer Blink needs to go.
Somer Blink didn't break this story or say "no this is wrong." Somer Blink simply rolled along taking the ill gotten gains of favoritism and didn't blink twice. You see we can't punish CCP because there really is no way to enforce anything the CSM tells them. There is no way to distill common sense into an over the counter medication that CCP is court ordered to take. Even then they'd eventually say "hey I'm cured" and go off their meds and into the deep end. Chribba might end up with a mining Titan in hi sec! But what we can do is punish the player organization invovled. We simply stop using them and let disuse wither away the existence of Somer Blink. Sure its unreasonable because so many people love using Somer Blink and really the villain here is CCP but what are you going to do? The kid still wants to run with scissors.
So stop using Somer Blink or CCP will stab themselves again. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
473
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:18:00 -
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This will never work. There will always be another Somer Blink, or another T20, or another dumb thing that CCP does because apparently if you live in a country whose population is less than most typical cities, you get to thinking you can run an international business the same way Olaf the fish monger runs his herring stand. Professionalism? Ethical conduct? What are those? |
Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
304
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:24:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:This will never work. There will always be another Somer Blink, or another T20, or another dumb thing that CCP does because apparently if you live in a country whose population is less than most typical cities, you get to thinking you can run an international business the same way Olaf the fish monger runs his herring stand. Professionalism? Ethical conduct? What are those?
Hence why its so ridiculous that you have to remove the scissors in the house. It points out how bad things really are and how far we haven't come from T20.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
473
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:25:00 -
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Ok, I'll agree with you if you promise not to buy me a pony or homestuck avatar. |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4257
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:35:00 -
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Or, you could just quit EVE and it would be a win-win situation for you and us. . |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
474
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:40:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Or, you could just quit EVE and it would be a win-win situation for you and us.
Does it seriously not bother you as a paying customer of CCP and a player of this game that some players are just being handed things? Are you as a consumer willing to settle for such a degraded product?
Seriously, this isn't about alliance politics, I can't believe you can't see this for what it is. |
Alexi Steele
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:44:00 -
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The person you're quoting has run a CCP sponsored event that involved having them move a supercap and dock it in an incursion system.
It's not politics, it's a realistic understanding of what CCP does for community events, and how often they do it for how many different groups.
But your overmind hasn't told you to be upset about all those other groups, so you're shiptoasting about blink this week. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
476
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:46:00 -
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Shut up, you dumb shill. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
476
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:48:00 -
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Seriously, I am a paying customer, I don't give a **** about goonswarm or whatever when it comes to this matter, and I genuinely hope "my overmind" is wrong. But these things have a funny way of turning out to be true with CCP, don't they? So seriously, you dumb bag of dogshit, go choke on your own ****. |
Alexi Steele
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:51:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Shut up, you dumb shill.
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
476
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:53:00 -
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Damn, that is weak. I actually feel bad for you now. |
Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
583
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:54:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Or, you could just quit EVE and it would be a win-win situation for you and us.
Obviously you are putting a lot of energy into defending SOMER and CCP, here and on other medias, against all the hate they are (rightfully) getting. Did you, by any chance, received an Ishukone Scorpion too ? G££ <= Me |
Disco Soliloquy
Major Kong Freight
7
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:56:00 -
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Alexi Steele wrote:The person you're quoting has run a CCP sponsored event that involved having them move a supercap and dock it in an incursion system.
It's not politics, it's a realistic understanding of what CCP does for community events, and how often they do it for how many different groups.
But your overmind hasn't told you to be upset about all those other groups, so you're shiptoasting about blink this week. Somerset Mahm is posting on alt accounts now?
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Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
477
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:02:00 -
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Disco Soliloquy wrote:Alexi Steele wrote:The person you're quoting has run a CCP sponsored event that involved having them move a supercap and dock it in an incursion system.
It's not politics, it's a realistic understanding of what CCP does for community events, and how often they do it for how many different groups.
But your overmind hasn't told you to be upset about all those other groups, so you're shiptoasting about blink this week. Somerset Mahm is posting on alt accounts now?
Wait, are you saying Somerset Mahm has alts in NCdot? So does that mean CCP is directly funding null alliances now with its "community involvement" program?
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Prince Kobol
961
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:05:00 -
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Lol.. So the goonies new task is to try and ruin somerblink
Poor kittens, did he lose some isk? |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
477
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:08:00 -
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Oh look, another NCdot shill for Somer Blink. Isn't that odd.
(Prince Kobol hides his alliance affiliation. I would too, if I were him, and if I were his alliance I would insist on it as well.) |
Prince Kobol
962
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:10:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Oh look, another NCdot shill for Somer Blink. Isn't that odd.
(Prince Kobol hides his alliance affiliation. I would too, if I were him, and if I were his alliance I would insist on it as well.)
If I was trying hide my affiliation I would be posting with a alt.
ALso I wouldn't of made numerous post stating that I enjoy playing somerblink either
Poor little goonie getting all upset, makes me so sad
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Sar'ran Zorn
St. Albans' Refuge
31
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:15:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Oh look, another NCdot shill for Somer Blink. Isn't that odd.
Yeah. It's almost as if there's a gigantic crowd of brainless people flooding the forum with support for stupid, game ruining behavior all because they like a website.
But enough about the Goons.... |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
480
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:17:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote: If I was trying hide my affiliation I would be posting with a alt.
Sar'ran Zorn wrote: Yeah. It's almost as if there's a gigantic crowd of brainless people flooding the forum with support for stupid, game ruining behavior all because they like a website.
But enough about the Goons....
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3467
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:35:00 -
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Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve continues to devalue our money by injecting liquidity into the banking system while pretending to shut down the government over a fight about raising the debt ceiling. The latter of which, if done, might push the economy over the brink.
But the gov is ready for that because they are purchasing billions of rounds of ammo domestically along with machine guns and tanks.
During this time, more people are on welfare than ever before while a window is forming for "not enough for free health care" while having to pay extra for existing care, IF you didn't get laid off because of the new healthcare requirements. So it's a personal financial collapse for everybody who is unemployed while the rich got richer and those who claim to be against the rich use this as an opportunity to push more socialism.
Given that, I'm having a real hard time caring so much about some crap going on in a video game. |
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Jaun Pacht-Feng
University of Caille Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:36:00 -
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Oh look!
More Goons upset with CCP Favouritism towards a group that isn't them.
Surprised! |
Kate stark
282
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:40:00 -
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Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:Oh look!
More Goons upset with CCP Favouritism towards a group that isn't them.
Surprised!
didn't you just post this in the other thread too? Oh, yes. you did.
are you just pasting the same thing over and over rather than actually understanding the issue and posting something sensible about it? Yay, this account hasn't had it's signature banned. or it's account, if you're reading this. |
Jaun Pacht-Feng
University of Caille Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:45:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:Oh look!
More Goons upset with CCP Favouritism towards a group that isn't them.
Surprised! didn't you just post this in the other thread too? Oh, yes. you did.are you just pasting the same thing over and over rather than actually understanding the issue and posting something sensible about it? First off, so?
Secondly, I'm not wrong! GSF always boasted favouritism towards them and kick and scream when its show to someone else!
I agree that its unfair to have any favouritism but I find it funny the only major source of these tears is from you guys! |
Kate stark
282
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Posted - 2013.10.05 08:53:00 -
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Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:Kate stark wrote:Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:Oh look!
More Goons upset with CCP Favouritism towards a group that isn't them.
Surprised! didn't you just post this in the other thread too? Oh, yes. you did.are you just pasting the same thing over and over rather than actually understanding the issue and posting something sensible about it? First off, so? Secondly, I'm not wrong! GSF always boasted favouritism towards them and kick and scream when its show to someone else! I agree that its unfair to have any favouritism but I find it funny the only major source of these tears is from you guys!
so pasting the same contentless post over and over doesn't contribute anything.
secondly; it's irrelevant if you're wrong or not. CCP simply shouldn't be showing favouritism to any one regardless of who they may or may not be.
also; i'm not a goon although that's unsurprising that you didn't realise that since you're too busy jumping up and down on the "grr goons" bandwagon. Yay, this account hasn't had it's signature banned. or it's account, if you're reading this. |
Disco Soliloquy
Major Kong Freight
7
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Posted - 2013.10.05 09:15:00 -
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Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:Secondly, I'm not wrong! GSF always boasted favouritism towards them The GSF trolled you all about favouritism, they didn't actually receive any.
There's a difference between pretending to be favoured to upset nerds, and actually being favoured.
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Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2013.10.05 09:22:00 -
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I'm more interested to find out what could have possibly made goons start what is obviously a personal vendetta. This is old news and no one batted an eyelid when it happened. Yet now, it's all 'oh noes, eve is dieing!'
Did op lose a mega blink or something? |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
421
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Posted - 2013.10.05 09:25:00 -
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Why boycot? They all well deserved every single bit they got. They have sponsored so many events, individuals, corps and alliances like none else out there. All bloggers get their accounts paid for one year. Should we rant about that also?
The only mistake CCP did is not getting out with the information about their intentions on time. We just need to make clear to CCP that they need to inform the community about such things.
They have every right to reward people that do huge things for their game, they just need to have somewhere written about things like this being possible. BALEX is recruiting -----> tinyurl.com/oscmmlv |
Kuni Oichi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.10.05 09:53:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve continues to devalue our money by injecting liquidity into the banking system while pretending to shut down the government over a fight about raising the debt ceiling. The latter of which, if done, might push the economy over the brink.
But the gov is ready for that because they are purchasing billions of rounds of ammo domestically along with machine guns and tanks.
During this time, more people are on welfare than ever before while a window is forming for "not enough for free health care" while having to pay extra for existing care, IF you didn't get laid off because of the new healthcare requirements. So it's a personal financial collapse for everybody who is unemployed while the rich got richer and those who claim to be against the rich use this as an opportunity to push more socialism.
Given that, I'm having a real hard time caring so much about some crap going on in a video game.
And yet you were still able to spend the time to write out your post with all its textbook fallacious moral equivalency points. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
3469
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Posted - 2013.10.05 10:27:00 -
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Kuni Oichi wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve continues to devalue our money by injecting liquidity into the banking system while pretending to shut down the government over a fight about raising the debt ceiling. The latter of which, if done, might push the economy over the brink.
But the gov is ready for that because they are purchasing billions of rounds of ammo domestically along with machine guns and tanks.
During this time, more people are on welfare than ever before while a window is forming for "not enough for free health care" while having to pay extra for existing care, IF you didn't get laid off because of the new healthcare requirements. So it's a personal financial collapse for everybody who is unemployed while the rich got richer and those who claim to be against the rich use this as an opportunity to push more socialism.
Given that, I'm having a real hard time caring so much about some crap going on in a video game. And yet you were still able to spend the time to write out your post with all its textbook fallacious moral equivalency points.
I do take time off from the real world.
Hmmm - maybe this IS a case of goons being miffed that they are not the goldenhaired child.
"moral equivelency". Wow. I thought that trendy slang died in the 90s. Archeologists are probably going to dig up your skull mixed in with a few thousand others. |
Dalmont Delantee
Rim Worlds Republic SpaceMonkey's Alliance
176
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:35:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve continues to devalue our money by injecting liquidity into the banking system while pretending to shut down the government over a fight about raising the debt ceiling. The latter of which, if done, might push the economy over the brink.
But the gov is ready for that because they are purchasing billions of rounds of ammo domestically along with machine guns and tanks.
During this time, more people are on welfare than ever before while a window is forming for "not enough for free health care" while having to pay extra for existing care, IF you didn't get laid off because of the new healthcare requirements. So it's a personal financial collapse for everybody who is unemployed while the rich got richer and those who claim to be against the rich use this as an opportunity to push more socialism.
Given that, I'm having a real hard time caring so much about some crap going on in a video game.
*passes you a lovely tin foil hat* |
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Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
372
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:41:00 -
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Somerblink is Too Big To Fail. |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
79
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:44:00 -
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Why are some CSM members so... hurt about all this? |
Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
41
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:44:00 -
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So this is what Mittens' ping last night was about.
I don't play SOMERblink. It's a rip-off and a waste of time. But now I'm tempted to toss a little isk in the pot and play a few times, just because of reasons. Maybe I'll even buy a GTC from a link on their site, to make sure I **** off little kitty even more. ;)
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OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
79
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:46:00 -
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Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:So this is what Mittens' ping last night was about.
I don't play SOMERblink. It's a rip-off and a waste of time. But now I'm tempted to toss a little isk in the pot and play a few times, just because of reasons. Maybe I'll even buy a GTC from a link on their site, to make sure I **** off little kitty even more. ;)
Lol, it's not about Somer. it's about keeping CCP from comitting suicide.
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:49:00 -
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OldWolf69 wrote:Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:So this is what Mittens' ping last night was about.
I don't play SOMERblink. It's a rip-off and a waste of time. But now I'm tempted to toss a little isk in the pot and play a few times, just because of reasons. Maybe I'll even buy a GTC from a link on their site, to make sure I **** off little kitty even more. ;)
Lol, it's not about Somer. it's about keeping CCP from comitting suicide.
You guys are so unbelievably self-important.
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Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
559
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:50:00 -
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I honestly question the sanity and cognitive abilities of anyone unable to understand that high value dev sponsored handouts to a select portion of the community is in complete contradiction of the "sandbox" they seem to advertise.
I'm so glad we've come so far since t20.... |
OldWolf69
IR0N. SpaceMonkey's Alliance
79
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:52:00 -
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Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:OldWolf69 wrote:Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:So this is what Mittens' ping last night was about.
I don't play SOMERblink. It's a rip-off and a waste of time. But now I'm tempted to toss a little isk in the pot and play a few times, just because of reasons. Maybe I'll even buy a GTC from a link on their site, to make sure I **** off little kitty even more. ;)
Lol, it's not about Somer. it's about keeping CCP from comitting suicide. You guys are so unbelievably self-important. Personally having a lot of fun here. Why u so serious?
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:53:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:I honestly question the sanity and cognitive abilities of anyone unable to understand that high value dev sponsored handouts to a select portion of the community is in complete contradiction of the "sandbox" they seem to advertise. I'm so glad we've come so far since t20....
A public tantrum aimed at SOMER isn't the solution, children, but I do realize that The Mittani is all about being an attention *****, |
Kate stark
293
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Posted - 2013.10.05 11:55:00 -
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Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:Jerick Ludhowe wrote:I honestly question the sanity and cognitive abilities of anyone unable to understand that high value dev sponsored handouts to a select portion of the community is in complete contradiction of the "sandbox" they seem to advertise. I'm so glad we've come so far since t20.... A public tantrum aimed at SOMER isn't the solution, children, but I do realize that The Mittani is all about being an attention *****,
it's not aimed at somer, but people are too busy going "grr goons" to realise. Yay, this account hasn't had it's signature banned. or it's account, if you're reading this. |
Khador Vess
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
81
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:01:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: "moral equivelency". Wow. I thought that trendy slang died in the 90s. Archeologists are probably going to dig up your skull mixed in with a few thousand others.
/reported for implied threats of mass murder.
In all seriousness this whole thing strikes me as being a bit ridiculous. Community sites like this are what makes EvE so special. Giving something to sites like this harms you all how exactly.... I suspect that those of you shouting the loudest here and in other forums, if you had been on the receiving end of one of these as a gift i suspect you wouldn't be so butt hurt about this.
I have not gotten anything out of CCP other than good fun and i have no issue with gifts like this... why does this matter other than the fact that neither party were exactly up front about it (which was a total home goal) I used to have a forum sig, but CCP SocksFour stole it.... |
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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:03:00 -
[41] - Quote
Kate stark wrote:Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:Jerick Ludhowe wrote:I honestly question the sanity and cognitive abilities of anyone unable to understand that high value dev sponsored handouts to a select portion of the community is in complete contradiction of the "sandbox" they seem to advertise. I'm so glad we've come so far since t20.... A public tantrum aimed at SOMER isn't the solution, children, but I do realize that The Mittani is all about being an attention *****, it's not aimed at somer, but people are too busy going "grr goons" to realise.
I read the first post thoroughly. SOMER is the scissors that CCP runs with, therefore Mittens has decided that SOMER needs to go. Therefore this is aimed at SOMER. It's a crude attempt at a strong-arm tactic which will not work because SOMER is much too well-established and popular.
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
905
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:03:00 -
[42] - Quote
Ban everyone involved with somer blink, and fire the CCP dude. Problem solved. The Tears Must Flow |
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
563
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:06:00 -
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Vaju Enki wrote:Ban everyone involved with somer blink, and fire the CCP dude. Problem solved.
Meh, just delete the scorps and fire the employees involved.
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Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
563
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:08:00 -
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Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:Jerick Ludhowe wrote:I honestly question the sanity and cognitive abilities of anyone unable to understand that high value dev sponsored handouts to a select portion of the community is in complete contradiction of the "sandbox" they seem to advertise. I'm so glad we've come so far since t20.... A public tantrum aimed at SOMER isn't the solution, children, but I do realize that The Mittani is all about being an attention *****,
I never said anything about this being aimed at somer... Hell, if ccp offered me a 10+ bil ship I would take it, just like probably 99% of you lot would.
The problem is CCP here and that these actions DIRECTLY contradict the idea of a sandbox. Furthermore, why are they rewarding a for profit isk machine rather than Other community entities which focus on training and retaining new players.
Overall, this is one of the most disturbing things I've seen come out of CCP in the 10+ years I've been here... T20 was bad, but ccp was kind of young then, but to do it again? You really have let allot of people down ccp, it seems soundwave jumped the boat for good reason. |
Infinity Ziona
Hot Drop Buns
466
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:09:00 -
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Zloco Crendraven wrote:Why boycot? They all well deserved every single bit they got. They have sponsored so many events, individuals, corps and alliances like none else out there. All bloggers get their accounts paid for one year. Should we rant about that also?
The only mistake CCP did is not getting out with the information about their intentions on time. We just need to make clear to CCP that they need to inform the community about such things.
They have every right to reward people that do huge things for their game, they just need to have somewhere written about things like this being possible. They should be sending them out of game gifts that don't affect the ingame environment, not in game assets that can be used to compete with subscribers who pay them money for their sandbox game.
Imagine you were involved in a war with a corporation and you were slowly beating them down and CCP gifted them trillions of isk because they ran a out of game business. Yeah, you'd be pissed off, especially if it caused you to get wtfpawned.
Well its the same thing, what about the other in game lotteries? How do they compete against Somer when its gifted so much free isk. What about where that isk is being used in game? Who's losing ships and space because some of that isk is propping up their opponents...
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Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
372
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:37:00 -
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Kuni Oichi wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:Meanwhile, the Federal Reserve continues to devalue our money by injecting liquidity into the banking system while pretending to shut down the government over a fight about raising the debt ceiling. The latter of which, if done, might push the economy over the brink.
But the gov is ready for that because they are purchasing billions of rounds of ammo domestically along with machine guns and tanks.
During this time, more people are on welfare than ever before while a window is forming for "not enough for free health care" while having to pay extra for existing care, IF you didn't get laid off because of the new healthcare requirements. So it's a personal financial collapse for everybody who is unemployed while the rich got richer and those who claim to be against the rich use this as an opportunity to push more socialism.
Given that, I'm having a real hard time caring so much about some crap going on in a video game. And yet you were still able to spend the time to write out your post with all its textbook fallacious moral equivalency points.
he's got a point (somewhat)
the government are always awarding contracts to private firms they probably met through the local rotary dinner they wanted to give the whole social security system away a few years ago seems a good microcosm of what happens in the real world |
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
568
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:39:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
the government are always awarding contracts to private firms they probably met through the local rotary dinner they wanted to give the whole social security system away a few years ago seems a good microcosm of what happens in the real world
Please, for the love of the logical god, don't justify CCP's actions via a comparison to extremely corrupt politics. |
Roxwar
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:43:00 -
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You guys are all missing the bigger picture here, mittens crusade to try and kill off blink is a slight and nothing more.
TDLR : Kill Blink > Goons create a blink clone > Goons make trillions of isk and dominate the game entirely and mould it to their ideals due to bottomless pockets. |
Bloodpetal
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal The Mockers AO
1364
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:45:00 -
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Agreed. Somer Blink can burn in a trash heap. There's other Lotto sites. Stop supporting these people.
Where I am. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Under the Wings of Fury Atrocitas
372
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:49:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
the government are always awarding contracts to private firms they probably met through the local rotary dinner they wanted to give the whole social security system away a few years ago seems a good microcosm of what happens in the real world
Please, for the love of the logical god, don't justify CCP's actions via a comparison to extremely corrupt politics.
i'm not justifying it, just saying, it happens. i'm against both real world and imaginary world corruption. if ccp == the government of eve, then essentially this is just a government contract to a profit making company to provide a service (raffle) they should just be doing themselves, like happens all the time. |
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Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:53:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
i'm not justifying it, just saying, it happens. i'm against both real world and imaginary world corruption. if ccp == the government of eve, then essentially this is just a government contract to a profit making company to provide a service (raffle) they should just be doing themselves, like happens all the time.
I got that, I was being a bit facetious, my bad |
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
569
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Posted - 2013.10.05 12:54:00 -
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Roxwar wrote:You guys are all missing the bigger picture here, mittens crusade to try and kill off blink is a slight and nothing more.
TDLR : Kill Blink > Goons create a blink clone > Goons make trillions of isk and dominate the game entirely and mould it to their ideals due to bottomless pockets.
Let me remove the butt hurt spin from your post.
"When goons are clamoring for justice, ccp must have really ****** up"
That's a far more honest way of looking at it. |
Liam Inkuras
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
469
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Posted - 2013.10.05 13:28:00 -
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Christ you people are unbelievable I wear my goggles at night.
Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone |
Davon Mandra'thin
Rotten Legion Ops
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Posted - 2013.10.05 14:42:00 -
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I didn't use Blink anyway.
If I were still running a War Dec corp, I would dec them and their couriers though. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4690
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Posted - 2013.10.05 14:48:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote:Agreed. Somer Blink can burn in a trash heap. There's other Lotto sites. Stop supporting these people. nah ccp has decided they are special
it's like arguing with god There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:14:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:Why boycot? They all well deserved every single bit they got. They have sponsored so many events, individuals, corps and alliances like none else out there. All bloggers get their accounts paid for one year. Should we rant about that also?
The only mistake CCP did is not getting out with the information about their intentions on time. We just need to make clear to CCP that they need to inform the community about such things.
They have every right to reward people that do huge things for their game, they just need to have somewhere written about things like this being possible. They should be sending them out of game gifts that don't affect the ingame environment, not in game assets that can be used to compete with subscribers who pay them money for their sandbox game. Imagine you were involved in a war with a corporation and you were slowly beating them down and CCP gifted them trillions of isk because they ran a out of game business. Yeah, you'd be pissed off, especially if it caused you to get wtfpawned. Well its the same thing, what about the other in game lotteries? How do they compete against Somer when its gifted so much free isk. What about where that isk is being used in game? Who's losing ships and space because some of that isk is propping up their opponents...
Firstful they are no in a war. As second no other lottery is even close to what Sommerblink did for our community. In my opinion and apparently in CCPs opinion others didn't deserved it.
BALEX is recruiting -----> tinyurl.com/oscmmlv |
Joan Greywind
No Swag Initiative
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:40:00 -
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Hah you are assuming that people that use somer blink are reasonable or "logical". People who use somer blink are like people who use the slot machine. The ingredient that makes you a reasonable person is missing, or other wise you won't be playing a game where you have a high negative expected value, and that doesn't provide any entertainment value
So you can be as reasonable as you like , it isn't going to happen because the people that use somer blink aren't reasonable.
But good luck anyways. |
Scooter McCabe
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
322
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:48:00 -
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Thank God for stupid people, you really made this thread. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
534
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Posted - 2013.10.05 17:01:00 -
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Roxwar wrote:You guys are all missing the bigger picture here, mittens crusade to try and kill off blink is a slight and nothing more.
TDLR : Kill Blink > Goons create a blink clone > Goons make trillions of isk and dominate the game entirely and mould it to their ideals due to bottomless pockets.
test post please ignore |
Jaun Pacht-Feng
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.10.05 17:05:00 -
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WWWAAAAAA............WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAA...........WWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
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Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
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Posted - 2013.10.05 17:45:00 -
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I just want to remind everyone raging atm and thinking about leaving the game, I would be pleased to take care of your stuff until you return. Just contract it to me. Thanks a lot. |
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ISD Tyrozan
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
169
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Posted - 2013.10.05 18:02:00 -
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All discussion of this issue is being directed to this thread.
This thread is locked. ISD Tyrozan Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department @ISDTyrozan | @ISD_CCL |
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