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dantes inferno
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Posted - 2005.12.20 07:11:00 -
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Quote: This is simply untrue. (I am not talking about clumsy 6k frigs, but fast 30k ones) Please check other posts on that matter.
what in hell makes u think im talking about crappy 6k frigs...i live work and hunt in 0.0 and use my heavy drones against measly 8 k frigs to the highest bounty frigs available..and guess what they work fine.
Quote: I ll let a dev explain that to you:
no need for them to explain anything to me..if i can go weeks without loosing any droned nor having them take damage..how come you cant? is it you dont know what your doing or am i a super drone user without relisign?
Quote: With the difference that any other ships have main weapons in the high slots and not in the drone bay. So any non Drone carrier ship with a drone bay can use the new drones without sacrificing their main weapons.
while the drone carrier who does not rely on having good wepons on their high slots (which is very PG and cpu intensive) can fit an excelent tank and have EW on their ship without loosing any DPS...other ships cant rely do this if they want good DPS they must sacrifise their tank/ew capabilities..its half a dozen of one and 6 of the other im afraid. its the same with new drones you want that abilites you must sacrifise some DPS im sorry they are not a win button for you..but you have to deal with the same scenario as every one else.
Quote: Interesting. I thought you said it was not a nerf ? Now you say it is in that point (I find this point to be the weakest of the 4 btw).
putting words in my mouth 4tw...its a boost i was speaking on the terms u idioticly see it as a nerf..your gripes are insicnificant to the problems real nerfs get which is the point im making. and it is not the weakest..now you can only use 5 (whihc if u have DI to 5 is the equivilent to 10 cold war drones)drones..leaving the droen bays the same size would give you way to much "waves" of drones and would unbalance drone users making them to powerful..as the drone expert im sure you could of figured this out yourself
Quote: Oh and you said you have the impression I am not testing anything? What do you think I do in the dom? Could it be I use drones all the time??
then your not doing a very good job either you dont test them...your after a i win button or your head is so far up ur ass you cant see this as the boost it is. all you can see is OMG I CAN ONLY USE 5 DRONES (which are just as powerful if not more than 10 pre rmr drones..15 in a domi) AND MY DRONE BAY IS ONLY HALF THE SIZE (but now that i can only use 5 double the power of pre rmr drones..i dont need a drone bay as big as i did..cause i cant use as much drones as i did)
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Earthan
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Posted - 2005.12.20 07:17:00 -
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No its perfectly ok
Only some bs are designed to use hvy drones.
For rest drones are against smaller ships.
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Ralitge boyter
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Posted - 2005.12.20 07:44:00 -
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Medium drones with a few months of training will own almost all ships. They now do roughly +150% more damage then before, they last longer, the fly faster and are more acurate in their damage dealing. They can even do EW now.
All in all I would say leave the heavies for the dreadnaughts and use your (max of 5 in space now) mediums as they really do own all (including interceptors).
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Gray Carmicheal
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Posted - 2005.12.20 08:28:00 -
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I'm all for the "nerf" MUCH prefer the drones being like snubfighters as compared to gnats.
Also, I viewed the old drones as crutches for the skilless, by skillless I mean those without the brass to take a pounding and dish one out as well. Drones are a supplement, not a primary weapon system (except on the new carriers, afaik). The fact that people were hauling about a ton of drones so they could swarm and spam was, pathetic, to say the least.
Old Drones reminded me of Plasma Spam in PlanetSide: It makes Baby Jesus cry.
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Gariuys
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Posted - 2005.12.20 08:29:00 -
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Originally by: Ralitge boyter Medium drones with a few months of training will own almost all ships. They now do roughly +150% more damage then before, they last longer, the fly faster and are more acurate in their damage dealing. They can even do EW now.
All in all I would say leave the heavies for the dreadnaughts and use your (max of 5 in space now) mediums as they really do own all (including interceptors).
NEt result with maxed out skills is that 5 do some 25% more damage then 10 did before. ~{When evil and strange get together anything is possible}~ A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.20 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Plexreticle How can additional unexpected or unavailable training not be a nerf if it does not follow your training career path?[/i]
Glad you managed to get at least on line back on topic...
If someone has Interfacing lvl5 pre RMR and someone does not then the person with the skill has vastly more firepower. If they are at the same level then neither are at a disadvantage, pretty easy to grasp really.
As for how can additional training not be a nerf... Stupidest question I have ever heard. How can additional training to make the HP, speed, damage, resistance etc be a nerf? It makes your drones harder, faster and a damn site more capable than ever before.
I won't get into the rest of the childish flame bait. Its been covered by nearly everyone else in this thread and you seem completely incapable of actualy understanding anything you disagree with.
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Maestro Ulv
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Posted - 2005.12.20 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Gray Carmicheal Drones are a supplement, not a primary weapon system (except on the new carriers, afaik). The fact that people were hauling about a ton of drones so they could swarm and spam was, pathetic, to say the least.
In PvP yes, they are not so much a supplement but a very handy and powerful diversion. In PvE then In the Dom I can now release 5 meds or on odd occasion 5 heavies and literaly just sit there and armour tank while they do the work. This is in high end lvl3 and low to mid lvl4. Admittedly and thankfully in lvl4's I do have to turn the rails on a few times. So for NPC missions the drones are now back to primary weapons.
Now its back to using the tried and trusted method of making sure your targetted before sending in a wave. Have to admit that this makes for boring missions, but hey its only for the sec rating on 3's so...
Have to disagree with you on the swarm and spam thing though. Personaly I released all my drones because I could and only used them in combat not for showing off.
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