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okst666
Not Solitude Again Chained Reactions
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:16:00 -
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looks like the "drawn" version has turrets...so my bet goes for gallente. [X] < Nail here for new monitor |
Rees Noturana
Red Rock Mining Company
70
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:20:00 -
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Navigator just posted that he thinks the order is Minmatar, Gallente, Amarr and Caldari.
So, probably Gallente. I'm for Incarna but don't sacrifice the EVE we have. Keep the core healthy. Expand it when you have the resources and a plan.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:47:00 -
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Torps/cruise on a BC would warm the cockles of my heart.
Just what are those anyway?
A torp/cruise BC will add a new dimension to the game. Expect to hear "because of Naga" a lot.
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Sam Bowein
Sense Amid Madness
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Posted - 2011.10.25 14:48:00 -
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If the bonus are real, I reaaaaally like the Naga. Like a big Merlin, with mixed weapon systems |
Gypsio III
Dirty Filthy Perverts
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Posted - 2011.10.25 15:45:00 -
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Rhinanna wrote:Quote:Naga Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity, 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range and 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level. If this is the case then they damm well better give all the crappy dual-weap minmatar ships another bonus, cos as it stands that is really not right. They suck as it is cos of dual weapons and needing to use dual bonuses to get the same effect as 1 bonus on other ships.
What crappy dual-weapon Minmatar ships?
You balance ships, not bonuses. If the Caldari one is so fat,slow and hard to fit that it needs a fully-bonused dual weapon system, so be it. If Minmatar ships didn't have the built-in bonuses of speed, agility, small sigs, ease of fitting and bonuses to clearly the best weapon system, then you might have an argument for a comparable bonus. |
Hatsumi Kobayashi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.10.25 16:06:00 -
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Gypsio III wrote:Rhinanna wrote:Quote:Naga Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity, 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range and 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level. If this is the case then they damm well better give all the crappy dual-weap minmatar ships another bonus, cos as it stands that is really not right. They suck as it is cos of dual weapons and needing to use dual bonuses to get the same effect as 1 bonus on other ships. What crappy dual-weapon Minmatar ships?
Fleet Scythe |
Sader Rykane
The Dark Space Initiative Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:02:00 -
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Planktal wrote:most likely the amarr one Oracle
I hope not that things ugly as ****. |
DK Reborn
EOS Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:09:00 -
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Sader Rykane wrote:Planktal wrote:most likely the amarr one Oracle I hope not that things ugly as ****.
Agreed everywhere I read people are saying how awesome the mentor is. I agree I don't think it's too spectacular or even fits in with Amarr design |
Tashanaka
Adhocracy Incorporated Adhocracy
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:17:00 -
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DK Reborn wrote:Sader Rykane wrote:Planktal wrote:most likely the amarr one Oracle I hope not that things ugly as ****. Agreed everywhere I read people are saying how awesome the mentor is. I agree I don't think it's too spectacular or even fits in with Amarr design
I kind of like the Mentor hull. |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:36:00 -
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Sam Bowein wrote:If the bonus are real, I reaaaaally like the Naga. Like a big Merlin, with mixed weapon systems
I prefer to think of it as a smaller Typhoon that (hopefully) won't look like a fleshlight. |
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MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:58:00 -
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I think naga is a bad name... Could be miss pronounced when you see more then one on grid... Examples we have 5 nagas on the gate |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:59:00 -
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I think naga is a bad name... Could be miss pronounced when you see more then one on grid... Examples we have 5 nagas on the gate |
MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:00:00 -
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Forums |
Wild Rho
Silent Core
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:05:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:So as it stands? No tank, resist or rep bonuses of any kind? I highly doubt that
It makes sense if they're being designed as glass cannons. |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:16:00 -
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Efraya wrote: Naga Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity, 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range and 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level. 95% reduction in the powergrid need of Large Hybrid Turrets 50% reduction in the CPU need of Large Hybrid Turrets 50% reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets 40% reduction in the powergrid need of Siege Missile Launchers 58% reduction in the CPU need of Siege Missile Launchers
anyone see something odd here?
"Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity"
" reduction in the powergrid need of Siege Missile Launchers 58% reduction in the CPU need of Siege Missile Launchers"
AND
"reduction in the capacitor need of Large Energy Turrets 40%"
O.o bonuses to torps nut no reduction for them, no bonuses for cruise launchers but reductions for them, and Large ENERGY Turrets for Caldari? Love the web team... I cant quote in a signature now Aidan Brooder: "And then do us all a favour and STFU ok? Because you are worse than The Mittani and the Goons." lol best praise ever |
Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:21:00 -
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MeBiatch wrote:I think naga is a bad name... Could be miss pronounced when you see more then one on grid... Examples we have 5 nagas on the gate
I do believe even WoW has scaled back from using that name for that reason Along with several other things in this one patch way back when. They renamed a axe called "The nicker" (so named because it looked like a razor), removed the Maine Coon Cat (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maine_coon_cat).
Love the web team... I cant quote in a signature now Aidan Brooder: "And then do us all a favour and STFU ok? Because you are worse than The Mittani and the Goons." lol best praise ever |
Velarra
Ghost Festival Naraka.
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Posted - 2011.10.25 21:01:00 -
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http://okraf.deviantart.com/art/Naga-Frigate-182604966
Rather reminiscent of the original Scorpion and quite the contrast from Ferox and Drake. |
grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.10.26 00:41:00 -
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Why do they never give damage bonuses or rate of fire bonuses to missile boats, well besides the Tengu?? There are no faction missile boats that can compete damage wise the other faction BS, and the same applies for the new ships. I really don't need my missiles to travel for 100km, I would prefer them to do more damage at closer ranges... |
Catlos JeminJees
E.M.P. Industries Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.10.26 00:45:00 -
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grumpyguts1 wrote:Why do they never give damage bonuses or rate of fire bonuses to missile boats, well besides the Tengu?? There are no faction missile boats that can compete damage wise the other faction BS, and the same applies for the new ships. I really don't need my missiles to travel for 100km, I would prefer them to do more damage at closer ranges...
Then use torpedos |
grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.03 16:17:00 -
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A Nightmare with Tachyons at 40km can do 850dps... show me a missile boat that can do that |
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Amro One
One.
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Posted - 2011.11.03 16:19:00 -
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Tengu |
Chi Ftele
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 16:33:00 -
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Naga's a torpo bomber? my favourite!
I've loved these ever since Freespace 2
hope the wait til the prices stabilize isn't too long That is all. |
grumpyguts1
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.03 18:50:00 -
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show fit??
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Sage Revinour
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 20:29:00 -
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You guys do realize the new ships are first-strike ganking ships, yeah? They aren't mission or gang ships... |
Black Dranzer
1
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Posted - 2011.11.03 20:32:00 -
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Sage Revinour wrote:They aren't mission or gang ships Challenge accepted. |
Michael J Caboose
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 20:45:00 -
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This gets there, 44.3 km range, 832 dps, 967 with overheat. Add ZMM100 and ZME2000 implants and you get 916/1064.
[Tengu, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
[empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot] [empty med slot]
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Terror Rage Assault Missile
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters II Medium Rocket Fuel Cache Partition II Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I
Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
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Chi Ftele
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.11.03 20:57:00 -
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Sage Revinour wrote:You guys do realize the new ships are first-strike ganking ships, yeah? They aren't mission or gang ships...
there's always a place for a unit with big guns, just send the tank in to draw attention and let the bc3 clean up
I'm thinking drake tank with various bc3s for extra punch plus a number of heavy frigs, a solid, flexible strike team that can even go ratting in 0.0 while being faster than a battleship and able to engage greater numbers of smaller targets more easily
not to mention it won't cost 60 mil to refit if it all goes to hell
so yeah, they're gonna kick ass, pvx-style That is all. |
OmniBeton
OmniBeton Metatech
0
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Posted - 2011.11.03 22:44:00 -
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Rhinanna wrote:Quote:Naga Battlecruiser Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Torpedo Velocity, 5% bonus to Torpedo explosion velocity, 10% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret optimal range and 7.5% bonus to Large Hybrid Turret tracking speed per level. If this is the case then they damm well better give all the crappy dual-weap minmatar ships another bonus, cos as it stands that is really not right. They suck as it is cos of dual weapons and needing to use dual bonuses to get the same effect as 1 bonus on other ships.
As far as it's torpedo velocity bonus, Im ok with that
Seriously, this ship is crap. The same useless turret range bonus as other caldari gunships have (when was the last time you've seen caldari gunship in serious fight - solo, small gang or fleet ?) And no damage bonus for torpedos. What's the point ? |
Nimrod Nemesis
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.11.03 23:08:00 -
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OmniBeton wrote:The same useless turret range bonus as other caldari gunships have (when was the last time you've seen caldari gunship in serious fight - solo, small gang or fleet ?) And no damage bonus for torpedos. What's the point ?
This should be the prompt for a new devblog. |
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