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Esiel
Renegade Serenity The Cool Kids Club
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Posted - 2011.11.04 08:32:00 -
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I support WiS but I have a bad feeling it is going the way of the dead horse where good ideas are unfullfilled because CCP worries to much about keeping EVE dark and damp instead of inspiring and exciting. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
658
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Posted - 2011.11.04 09:12:00 -
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Esiel wrote:CCP worries to much about keeping EVE dark and damp Is that why I sometimes get that not-so-fresh feeling after playing Eve?
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Pesadel0
the muppets RED.OverLord
16
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Posted - 2011.11.04 09:14:00 -
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No we don't. |
Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
22
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Posted - 2011.11.04 09:20:00 -
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No we don't indeed.
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Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2011.11.04 12:27:00 -
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Esiel wrote:I support WiS but I have a bad feeling it is going the way of the dead horse where good ideas are unfullfilled because CCP worries to much about keeping EVE dark and damp instead of inspiring and exciting.
so i really don't understand the outrage of the wis-lovers why are they special this happens erryday you guys just need to wait a few years stupid incarna lovin pedestrians |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
258
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Posted - 2011.11.04 21:59:00 -
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Taiwanistan wrote:Esiel wrote:I support WiS but I have a bad feeling it is going the way of the dead horse where good ideas are unfullfilled because CCP worries to much about keeping EVE dark and damp instead of inspiring and exciting. so i really don't understand the outrage of the wis-lovers why are they special this happens erryday you guys just need to wait a few years
We've been waiting for 5 years depending on how you count them and this is the first major feature that CCP has ever stated they are backing away from and "putting on ice indefinitely".
They claim they are doing this for at least two reasons.
1. No one really wanted WiS. This is clearly a lie.
2. They can't see any way to make it "compelling". Also a lie, there are hundreds of suggestions on the table that would be most welcome be a non-trivial portion of Eve.
So this is worse than most neglected features in Eve where CCP just quietly stops working on them, this one is being tossed out the dirgible. So why would I have any confidence it will ever get back in plan?
Issler |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
61
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Posted - 2011.11.04 23:25:00 -
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Seeing how Winter 2011 is gonna be packed with FiS stuff, and assuming they get all that stuff to work straight in a reasonable amount of updates, it woulnd't be far-fetched to suggest to handle other sutff by Sumemr 2012. Not exactly Incarna in any beefed up version, but Winter 2011 is not the be-all and end-all for many players (name casuals, name soloers) and with as much shiny it provides, it actually leaves the aforementioned players orphan of additional gameplay.
There is potential of iteration of existing non-Fis features, like adding more hairdos (even RATIAL hairdos, for god's ake!) or additional layers of clothing (some people said "hats", why not? Hats, helmets, berets...) or plain release the Nex stuff from the market tab, and take the chance and turn it into micro-transactions so we poor humble mission runners can afford to buy some clothes each month rather than grind for months for each piece of dress.
You know, stuff other than nullsec fixes, like new missions (are them in the books?), the PvP agents i suggested elswhere or many other ideas that could require precious dev time.
And, of course, work towards Real Incarna (Winter 2012?)
Everybody got a hungry heart, and some of us are hungry for stuff CCP is not cooking. So... no affordable NEx store... no full-fledged Incarna... no casual content... no solo content... no PvE content...-á
Why should I keep paying to play this game? |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
130
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Posted - 2011.11.05 01:42:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:Seeing how Winter 2011 is gonna be packed with FiS stuff, and assuming they get all that stuff to work straight in a reasonable amount of updates, it woulnd't be far-fetched to suggest to handle other sutff by Sumemr 2012. Not exactly Incarna in any beefed up version, but Winter 2011 is not the be-all and end-all for many players (name casuals, name soloers) and with as much shiny it provides, it actually leaves the aforementioned players orphan of additional gameplay.
There is potential of iteration of existing non-Fis features, like adding more hairdos (even RATIAL hairdos, for god's ake!) or additional layers of clothing (some people said "hats", why not? Hats, helmets, berets...) or plain release the Nex stuff from the market tab, and take the chance and turn it into micro-transactions so we poor humble mission runners can afford to buy some clothes each month rather than grind for months for each piece of dress.
You know, stuff other than nullsec fixes, like new missions (are them in the books?), the PvP agents i suggested elswhere or many other ideas that could require precious dev time.
And, of course, work towards Real Incarna (Winter 2012?)
Everybody got a hungry heart, and some of us are hungry for stuff CCP is not cooking.
Simple corp meeting room or inviting a limited number of people to your CQ would suffice for many WiS players. The hamster cage is somewhat terrifying.
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Bomberlocks
CTRL-Q
32
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Posted - 2011.11.05 01:47:00 -
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Issler Dainze wrote:....
We've been waiting for 5 years depending on how you count them and this is the first major feature that CCP has ever stated they are backing away from and "putting on ice indefinitely".
They claim they are doing this for at least two reasons.
1. No one really wanted WiS. This is clearly a lie.
2. They can't see any way to make it "compelling". Also a lie, there are hundreds of suggestions on the table that would be most welcome be a non-trivial portion of Eve.
So this is worse than most neglected features in Eve where CCP just quietly stops working on them, this one is being tossed out the dirgible. So why would I have any confidence it will ever get back in plan?
Issler Issler, dearest, you need to lift the needle off that stuck record. If you feel so strongly about spacebarbies, then run for the next CSM on that platform. If you get in, you'll know that ken and barbie are indeed a valuable part of an internet spaceship game. |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
130
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Posted - 2011.11.05 01:50:00 -
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Bomberlocks wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:....
We've been waiting for 5 years depending on how you count them and this is the first major feature that CCP has ever stated they are backing away from and "putting on ice indefinitely".
They claim they are doing this for at least two reasons.
1. No one really wanted WiS. This is clearly a lie.
2. They can't see any way to make it "compelling". Also a lie, there are hundreds of suggestions on the table that would be most welcome be a non-trivial portion of Eve.
So this is worse than most neglected features in Eve where CCP just quietly stops working on them, this one is being tossed out the dirgible. So why would I have any confidence it will ever get back in plan?
Issler Issler, dearest, you need to lift the needle off that stuck record. If you feel so strongly about spacebarbies, then run for the next CSM on that platform. If you get in, you'll know that ken and barbie are indeed a valuable part of an internet spaceship game.
You were so missed at the Bob Marley look-alike... It is that way ---> |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
674
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Posted - 2011.11.05 01:50:00 -
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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:There is potential of iteration of existing non-Fis features, like adding more hairdos (even RATIAL hairdos, for god's ake!) or additional layers of clothing (some people said "hats", why not? Hats, helmets, berets...) or plain release the Nex stuff from the market tab, and take the chance and turn it into micro-transactions so we poor humble mission runners can afford to buy some clothes each month rather than grind for months for each piece of dress. This is such a horrible troll.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Aidan Brooder
Dynasphere Ltd.
130
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Posted - 2011.11.05 01:53:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:There is potential of iteration of existing non-Fis features, like adding more hairdos (even RATIAL hairdos, for god's ake!) or additional layers of clothing (some people said "hats", why not? Hats, helmets, berets...) or plain release the Nex stuff from the market tab, and take the chance and turn it into micro-transactions so we poor humble mission runners can afford to buy some clothes each month rather than grind for months for each piece of dress. This is such a horrible troll.
Well, I don't care about dresses either, if they are not player-made. I care about social interaction options. So for once - on this part you cut out - I agree. Out of shame agreeing with a Goon I go to bed now. |
T-Jay Charante
The Scope Gallente Federation
13
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Posted - 2011.11.05 01:58:00 -
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Aidan Brooder wrote:Bomberlocks wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:....
We've been waiting for 5 years depending on how you count them and this is the first major feature that CCP has ever stated they are backing away from and "putting on ice indefinitely".
They claim they are doing this for at least two reasons.
1. No one really wanted WiS. This is clearly a lie.
2. They can't see any way to make it "compelling". Also a lie, there are hundreds of suggestions on the table that would be most welcome be a non-trivial portion of Eve.
So this is worse than most neglected features in Eve where CCP just quietly stops working on them, this one is being tossed out the dirgible. So why would I have any confidence it will ever get back in plan?
Issler Issler, dearest, you need to lift the needle off that stuck record. If you feel so strongly about spacebarbies, then run for the next CSM on that platform. If you get in, you'll know that ken and barbie are indeed a valuable part of an internet spaceship game. You were so missed at the Bob Marley look-alike... It is that way --->
Barbie would be proud, he coordinated the colour of his glasses with his hair.
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Kengutsi Akira
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
151
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Posted - 2011.11.05 02:28:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Metis Laxon wrote:Lateris wrote:Ranka Mei wrote:The often childish resistence against WiS makes me think of the history of motion pictures. Right after the 'silent era' (1894-1929) silent films were replaced by 'talking pictures' in the late 1920s. Many folks -- with a very limited imagination, only accepting of what they had -- couldn't handle the extra dimension added, and started ridiculing 'talkies,' typically by making mock-movies with funnily-montaged chirping sounds (the voice audio tracks of talking movies were still of very low quality at the time; hence the chirping), arguing 'voice' added no real content, and only brought down the aesthetic quality of cinema. Their immense shortsightedness, seen from today, speaks for itself.
My point? Don't be that stupid person ridiculing the extra dimension WiS offers. I know you love your FiS, and that you think that saying 'space barbie' a lot makes you look cool, and that you think you represent the 'real' EVE-er. Well, those who ridiculed 'talkies' went the way of the dinosaur, and now look dumb beyond measure. Instead, try and wrap your brain around the notion that WiS could add an entire new immersive dimension to EVE, akin to what adding voice did for movies; and that history will make it so that you'll inevitably be on the losing side of this argument, decisively.
Sure, currently WiS is nothing more than a (very sophisticated) avatar in a slick looking 3D realm. But as a favorite space Captain of mine once said, "Try and see past what she is, and onto what she can be." I couldn't agree more. Don't kill creativity. And we all agree the micro transactions are rubbish. Once again, couldn't agree more there. Whereas (and sticking with the period theme) those people that still believe Incarna was actually going to have some real content beyond the NeX store are quite similar in outlook to those of the early movie period who often were persuaded to buy shares in the The Brooklyn Bridge.
Quoted for truth
5 accounts and all the alts do not make a majority of EVE. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=255722#post255722
My stance on WiS |
Bomberlocks
CTRL-Q
32
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Posted - 2011.11.05 02:54:00 -
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T-Jay Charante wrote:Aidan Brooder wrote:Bomberlocks wrote:Issler Dainze wrote:....
We've been waiting for 5 years depending on how you count them and this is the first major feature that CCP has ever stated they are backing away from and "putting on ice indefinitely".
They claim they are doing this for at least two reasons.
1. No one really wanted WiS. This is clearly a lie.
2. They can't see any way to make it "compelling". Also a lie, there are hundreds of suggestions on the table that would be most welcome be a non-trivial portion of Eve.
So this is worse than most neglected features in Eve where CCP just quietly stops working on them, this one is being tossed out the dirgible. So why would I have any confidence it will ever get back in plan?
Issler Issler, dearest, you need to lift the needle off that stuck record. If you feel so strongly about spacebarbies, then run for the next CSM on that platform. If you get in, you'll know that ken and barbie are indeed a valuable part of an internet spaceship game. You were so missed at the Bob Marley look-alike... It is that way ---> Barbie would be proud, he coordinated the colour of his glasses with his hair. And you and the genius you quoted wonder why no one takes the spacebarbie crowd seriously. |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
26
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Posted - 2011.11.05 04:09:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:5 accounts and all the alts do not make a majority of EVE. QFT, but of course I use your own argument against you. Even a goon can tell that 5x3=15 and thus your theory does not compute as the op alone has 109 likes at this time of writing. Please do not make me dig up that post with the approximate like/dislike WiS proportion. Based on that count, the WiS above FiS portion of the ones that visit this thread are greater than than the No-WiS crowd. And that does not even include the WiS+ FiS crowd.
Seriously, this argument is getting old. For the love of EVE, come with something better than this 5 account + alts rubbish if you wish to convince neutrals/WiS lovers. You're not helping your side of the argument right now. |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
273
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Posted - 2011.11.05 06:17:00 -
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As an old bitter-vet at this point - WiS where we could interact with other players in avatar form would have been good for the RP/Immersion crowd (who tend to be rather loyal customers). It would give you something *else* to do on the days where you don't feel like undocking and going to blow stuff up between tending to industry jobs and market trading.
Instead we got: - 18 months of near-zero improvements to FiS because 95% of the employees were working on WiS - Racial CQs the size of small box and about as interesting as living inside said box - Zero-interaction with other player's avatars - The inability to get out and roam around the stations - No gaming / gambling / drinking / social establishments - A handful of clothes designs, not enough variety, and extremely overpriced - Things that could not be manufactured by players (they should have been BPCs)
Ultimately, I still think WiS will be good for EVE, but not at the expense of stopping FiS development in its tracks. Which is what happened over the past 2 years, and part of why the players revolted over the summer. |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
71
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Posted - 2011.11.05 12:30:00 -
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Metis Laxon wrote:Ayumi Hinoki wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Oswald Patsee wrote:EVE is about flying in space. Anything else is a different game that just screws up EVE and flying in space. This guy knows what's up. Sure, trading, industry, exploration, planetary interaction and other fields of EVE Online just ruin the game. Have you noticed that there are more skill groups than Gunnery, Spaceship Command or Missile Launcher Operation? Even if you don't use them, they exist and are the primary source of income and gameplay style for a lot of players. Take a look at this, this, this, and also this if you have time, because EVE is not just about flying in space. Is a lot more than that. I couldn't agree more here.
I am surprised you don't realize all of these activities are completely dependant on flying in space.
Industry: What are you making? Your making ships, modules for ships and places you can repair and fit those ships. If people could only look at those ships from their cq walkway and never actually "fly them in space" there would be *no industry.* Are you making monocles and skirts? No that is reserved for the nex store and mt.
Trade: trading is the same. Yes you an trade monocles but mt is going to make it so you never wll have the depth of economic forces for the items intended to be used in a ship in space.
Planetory interaction: Again none of this would have a market if ships didn't fly in space.
exploration: is flying in space.
The thing is incarna is doomed for 2 reasons:
1) MT will always plague it 2) No combat.
Its all vanity. Its all dress up. If you like dress up thats ok but stop trying to claim incarna is something else. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Mekela
Vinyl Roid
33
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Posted - 2011.11.06 00:09:00 -
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WiS was not supposed to be MT it was supposed to bring a persona to the game. It was to make the game personal, at some point there were going to have some type of FPS. It was also going to bring some very fun activities to the game.
- Gambling (people were talking about having poker rooms, + other inventive mini games you could gamble your isk away on),
- mission creation (at one point they were talking about you being able to set your bartender to be able to give missions that you create),
- Crafting (originally the clothing was going to be crafted and created by the players and sold at establishments.).
- ect..
It was supposed to eventually bring the "Full Science Fiction Simulation to life". And then CCP got greedy, and not just a little greedy, very greedy. They scrapped all kinds of things so they could jump into the Micro Transition game and screw the promises and ideals they had for EVE and dumped this crap on us.
So when Incarna hit and the players were pissed the **** hit the fan. For the first time people left, and all they could see was that it happened when Incarna was released. Fear and panic set in, (Its not like we are in economic times when you can survive with a bad rap on you) so they immediately stopped what they were doing. (This is a good thing; they needed to re-evaluate WTF they were thinking). However I do believe they are still in panic mode and the FiS only crowd is giving them bad advice.
What advice do they need. - Go back to your core. (The core isn't FiS btw) The true core of what EVE was is Player controlled sci fi sandbox. They wanted the players to be able to control just about everything. They have always tried to get NPC seeded items out. The NEX is the antithesis of the core they had built this game on. They were GREEDY and in doing so destroyed their core.
Removing WiS is not fixing the problem it is actually backtracking and keeping you away from what your core creation was meant to be. CCP need to remember that when they were doing things to try to fulfill the core idea people came, and you got money. When you started doing things to get money that is when everything went sideways. I hope CCP remembers what they were doing originally and why. If they remember and go back to doing things to fulfill the core (This includes WiS) then EVE will be fine if they don't EVE is not going to make it and will fall.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
268
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Posted - 2011.11.06 01:52:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:As an old bitter-vet at this point - WiS where we could interact with other players in avatar form would have been good for the RP/Immersion crowd (who tend to be rather loyal customers). It would give you something *else* to do on the days where you don't feel like undocking and going to blow stuff up between tending to industry jobs and market trading.
Instead we got: - 18 months of near-zero improvements to FiS because 95% of the employees were working on WiS - Racial CQs the size of small box and about as interesting as living inside said box - Zero-interaction with other player's avatars - The inability to get out and roam around the stations - No gaming / gambling / drinking / social establishments - A handful of clothes designs, not enough variety, and extremely overpriced - Things that could not be manufactured by players (they should have been BPCs)
Ultimately, I still think WiS will be good for EVE, but not at the expense of stopping FiS development in its tracks. Which is what happened over the past 2 years, and part of why the players revolted over the summer.
it wasn't 95% of CCP working on WiS, it was 95% of CCP working on other non-eve projects.
Issler |
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Mashie Saldana
Veto. Veto Corp
66
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Posted - 2011.11.06 02:12:00 -
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I really truly hope CCP doesn't **** up the pricing a second time when they release all the new NeX items currently on SiSi. Anastasia -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á Dominique-á-á Mashie -á-á Monica |
Azahni Vah'nos
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
90
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Posted - 2011.11.06 03:30:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:I really truly hope CCP doesn't **** up the pricing a second time when they release all the new NeX items currently on SiSi. No let's see if CCP continue to erode the sandbox by further pushing the NEX Store rather than incorporating those items into something that actually adds to the sandbox that is EVE.
CCP management got suckered by the 'get rich quick' microtransaction marketing hype. Hilmar, if you get an email saying you'll be rich if you invest in a Nigerian based company, ... DON"T GIVE THEM YOUR BANK ACCOUNT DETAILS ... just feel I need to let you know because you seem like a sucker when it comes to marketing bs. Nex (Cash Shop)-á/ Aurum - removing sand from the sandbox since Incarna. Currently the only use for aurum is to buy virtual items in the in-game store, but Cockerill expects to expand its uses in the future. |
Naari Talvanis
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2011.11.06 04:06:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:As an old bitter-vet at this point - WiS where we could interact with other players in avatar form would have been good for the RP/Immersion crowd (who tend to be rather loyal customers). It would give you something *else* to do on the days where you don't feel like undocking and going to blow stuff up between tending to industry jobs and market trading.
Instead we got: - 18 months of near-zero improvements to FiS because 95% of the employees were working on WiS - Racial CQs the size of small box and about as interesting as living inside said box - Zero-interaction with other player's avatars - The inability to get out and roam around the stations - No gaming / gambling / drinking / social establishments - A handful of clothes designs, not enough variety, and extremely overpriced - Things that could not be manufactured by players (they should have been BPCs)
Ultimately, I still think WiS will be good for EVE, but not at the expense of stopping FiS development in its tracks. Which is what happened over the past 2 years, and part of why the players revolted over the summer.
This. Now let's hope they give FiS some much needed love, and then complete what they intended to do with Incarna. |
Ranka Mei
TANoshii Incorporated New Eden Research.
58
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Posted - 2011.11.06 04:23:00 -
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Azahni Vah'nos wrote: CCP management got suckered by the 'get rich quick' microtransaction marketing hype. Hilmar, if you get an email saying you'll be rich if you invest in a Nigerian based company, ... DON"T GIVE THEM YOUR BANK ACCOUNT DETAILS ... just feel I need to let you know because you seem like a sucker when it comes to marketing bs.
Your (deserved) sarcasm notwithstanding, you got a valid point. It has always bewildered me that some marketing gurus convinced Hilmar that people would buy $1,000 virtual pants, or that some demographic showed him Koreans are willing to accept a limited form of p2w. The latter may well be true, but someone should have pointed out the obvious: we're not all Koreans. From what I know of Korean society, it's pretty cut-throat, business-wise, and people are willing to do a lot more to get ahead of the other than over here. Not saying the rest of the world ain't cut-throat in its own right, but it should have been pretty clear that you can't simply translate a single Asian country's mentality 1 on 1 to gaming morale in the rest of the world.
In that regard, I think there are enough people at CCP with common sense -- just very few willing, or in the position, to tell their CEO. Which probably holds true for all major companies.
-- "All your monies AUR belong to us!" -- CCP |
Ranka Mei
TANoshii Incorporated New Eden Research.
58
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Posted - 2011.11.06 04:28:00 -
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In other news: the other 3 Captain's Quarters are on Singularity now! Check it out!
-- "All your monies AUR belong to us!" -- CCP |
Nypheas Azurai
Azimuth Enterprises
7
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Posted - 2011.11.06 05:20:00 -
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Mekela wrote:It was supposed to eventually bring the "Full Science Fiction Simulation to life". m bad advice. What advice do they need. - Go back to your core. (The core isn't FiS btw)
Pretty much this.
The biggest misconception I've seen by hardline FiS is that: a) EVE = FiS b) Incarna = WiS
WRONG
EVE has always been envisioned (see CCP's "future vision") as a sci-fi universe simulator. Perhaps it started life as FiS, but every component added afterwards forms the cohesive whole: FiS depends on the markets which depend on industry, which depends on mining and PI, and so forth and vice versa, and now the time has come when WiS is part of that whole. We've been waiting nearly 4 years for this, and any longer will put people off the game as it will appear in a stagnant state.
Like Albert the little 4-year old afraid of rats, CCP got a shock when they attempted a BAD version of WiS. Not only the shock, but now the hardcore FiS stand in real danger of reinforcing the wrong message to CCP: that FiS should come at the expense of all. This message only serves the FiS crowd and puts CCP in real danger of losing the rest of the playerbase and the majority of new & potential players who thrive on new content. The real message we need to send them is that, yes we need WiS, but as a general rule: don't let it be propelled by greed and don't make crap.
The take-away message here is: a) EVE != FiS. EVE = FiS + WiS + PI + S&I + Market + Mining + .... + = complete sci-fi sandbox
b) Incarna != WiS Incarna = greed + shoddy work + poor feedback WiS = the next missing part of the EVE universe, with integral and meaningful gameplay |
Krios Ahzek
Juvenis Iratus
14
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Posted - 2011.11.06 05:23:00 -
[957] - Quote
WIS should be a 3D version of Space Station 13 where we play generic corporate clones on a doomed research station. |
Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
31
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Posted - 2011.11.06 05:47:00 -
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The thing is CCP will never drop the micro transaction idea, what ever WiS was or should have been is dead and gone, forever replaced by a platform for the item shop. Do not try to claim otherwise, have CCP changed the NeX store prices? This whole FiS focus is a sham, they are attempting to mollify the angry and disgruntled players by making some changes they should have made months/years ago.
CCP still want to go down the MT route, at least for Incarna. Personally I think anyone desperate for WiS now is crazy, you are just dropping your trousers and bending over and begging for some "Goosh goosh"
Incarna the way it was presented to us back in 2008 would have been interesting, player run shops selling player manufactured items would have added a new layer to the economy, socialising would have been interesting for some people to and though some people still hated the concept there wasnt so many WiS haters and they where not so vocal. But thats all gone now, no player made items its all NeX, no stores because there is nothing to sell and the socialising will be fail to, unless people really like going into a Michelin star resturant wearing a dollar store outfit. Lacking the best will mean people being mocked as space scrubs (haha you have the free clothes!), and while that doesnt matter to most sensible people it will matter to the kind of person whose highlight of their evening is to login to their spaceship game, wearing their space pants to play a game of space poker with their space friends. Needing the trendy "gear" is a big motivator for some MMO players.
You WiS whiners must be really desperate for CCP to rifle through your wallets. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
139
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Posted - 2011.11.06 06:17:00 -
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Nypheas Azurai wrote:
EVE has always been envisioned (see CCP's "future vision") as a sci-fi universe simulator.
I believe you should look up 'envision' in the dictionary, it does not mean what you think it means.
I, for one, am glad that the future of EVE is not the same as in "future vision". It is Flying in Space.
I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Flamespar
Woof Club
93
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Posted - 2011.11.06 06:44:00 -
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Do you reckon there is any value is CCP asking the player base what they would like to see in Incarna?
Dunno if this has already been done. I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
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