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Syss7
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:47:00 -
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Attention Mining Crystal II Activated. |
Lisbo
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.06.30 10:57:00 -
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lol you must be kidding right?
First, you make other ppl feel bad in a game as to cause a bad reaction from them (ever crossed your thought that maybe they are depressed too?) because you seem to need to compensate for your own bad situation....and then you get angry because others pay you back saying something to you you don't like?
You are way past a safe line in your life if you don't see the flaw in your argument, stop playing this game and go treat yourself. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting Home Front Coalition
552
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Posted - 2013.06.30 11:08:00 -
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Consequences. |
Liafcipe9000
Smeghead Empire
6772
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Posted - 2013.06.30 11:15:00 -
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haters gonna hate You may gain the knowledge, but you will lose your belief, with all its mystery and comfort. If there was proof, absolute and certain, there is an afterlife, why not quit this life, and be done with it? Ponder about these things all your life, and you're a philosopher. Compress these ponderings into a couple of pages, and you'll go mad. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3751
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Posted - 2013.06.30 11:23:00 -
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Lisbo wrote:lol you must be kidding right?
First, you make other ppl feel bad in a game as to cause a bad reaction from them (ever crossed your thought that maybe they are depressed too?) because you seem to need to compensate for your own bad situation....and then you get angry because others pay you back saying something to you you don't like?
You are way past a safe line in your life if you don't see the flaw in your argument, stop playing this game and go treat yourself. It's true, when TEST appears in local and makes fun of us while we go to shoot their structures, I feel really sad.
Boat said it is an important part of learning to become a structure shooter.
(He didn't actually say that) There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
TEST Defence, Please Ignore |
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
832
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Posted - 2013.06.30 11:35:00 -
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Gealbhan wrote:OP, you reap what you sow. You admit to being for lack of a better term, a ****, and when someone gives you a taste of your own medicine you run to GM's and here of all places. Sorry but I have no sympathies until you start changing your ways.
Im sorry but i have to respond to this. Yes the OP admits to being an *******. Maybe he/she is a scammer, maybe he/she blew up someones barge, maybe he/she robbed some corp,maybe he likes to smack talk in local, or maybe he just finds enjoyment of making bad tasting "this is what i did to your mom" jokes. Chances are high that whatever he did that makes him come across as an ******* is fully within the "rules" of EVE and if the person(s) asking him to kill him self came to the forums and told everyone what an ******* he was, people would war dec him, bounty him, or just smack talk him and tell him to "HTFU" or "Go back to WOW!".
Now if its outside of the normal "rules" in EVE. Let me give you an example. I have only been asked to kill my self once in EVE, and not because i did something that i considered to be an ******* thing to do. Some guy evolved a crush on me, told me that he was going to leave his fianc+¬ for me, and that he expected me to leave my BF at the time to be with him. Needless to say i told him no, which was received quite poorly, and him asking me to kill my self is the last thing i ever heard from him.
So tell me, was it my fault? Should i have blamed my self for treating this guy so poorly and left my long term BF, moved to a different country, broken up his relationship and put us both in an unhappy relationship just to "not be an ******* and hurt his feelings"?.
So this is how i read the OP. He knows he is doing things that upsets EVE players, but no matter what for an EVE player (pissed, hurt, offended, bored, whatever) asking someone to kill them self crosses a line, and if you say something like that to the wrong person it might actually happen. People dont know who someone really are behind the screen, and statements like this should not be used even as a joke since it can escalate issues a person already has, and the "harmless statement" might end up doing permanent damage to the person. Phoibe Enterprises official recruitment thread The Eve Reader - -áAudio Recordings of Eve Chronicles
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Q 5
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
85
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Posted - 2013.06.30 12:28:00 -
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Tiber Ibis wrote:Q 5 wrote:If you know what you do angers people then don't do it if you don't want them to say stuff to you. This isn't good advice. You shouldn't give a flying crap what some moron on the internet thinks of you. This is a game, at the end of the day you can turn off the computer and do something else if someone is annoying you.
And this is why we have anger wars and fights all over the world.
Cause you just can't leave each other alone, it may be a game but not all of us are here to do the same thing. |
Acwron
Meet The Fockers S2N Citizens
72
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Posted - 2013.06.30 12:29:00 -
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Tiber Ibis wrote:Acwron wrote:Just watch local when a big fight occurs for example. Gay, hardcore **** links and so much more...! You can tell we have problems with the kids of today when they cannot differentiate between a joking meme link, and someone goading someone to kill themselves in real life.
Can you tell they really mean to harm him in real life ? Maybe was just trash talk to let some steam out. We can only make assumptions.
Eve is a different MMO as you don't respawn at a graveyard and get right back in the battle with your shiny gear on. When you lose a ship, you lose it for good. The "gear" as well.
So some anger is understandable when you grind isk for days even for months sometimes and you lose it in a blink of an eye because of a scam, a fight, whatever.
Eve should be 18+ so we could talk trash ! |
Seven Koskanaiken
Clan Steel Wolves
234
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Posted - 2013.06.30 12:32:00 -
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Threatening personal real life violence because of something that happens in a video game is not acceptable. Plain and simple. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2013.06.30 12:32:00 -
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So this has happened 3 times this month and you're still not getting the hint? tough.
My sympathy is with the guys who's game time you seem so intent on ruining to illicit such a response from them. |
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Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1233
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Posted - 2013.06.30 12:35:00 -
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Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote:I know I am not liked in eve and I do stuff that annoys and angers others in the game , but its a GAME.
I had today again for the 3rd time this month someone tell me to Kill myself in rl even describing how they wanted me to do it.
I just don't understand how some people can value a human life as so little, trying to push someone to kill themselves
I did the usual petition but im worried the GM's are not taking it seriously.
I just wanted to say before you think its funny to push someone to so something horrible to others or themselves , how would you feel if they actually did follow through with it and there blood was on your hands?
To be clear I suffer from depression, but I am Not suicidal
That said, after being told to kill myself it gets me sick to my stomach.
I am a part of a mental health community that has people far worse off then me which I have seen do desperate things when pushed into it.
I just ask you think of the repercussions beforehand before you chose the words you use to someone, ingame or out.
Not sure if this is a troll or cereal. But I'll bite.
We live in a culture that tells us to be unique to our face while teasing and berating us for doing so behind out backs and influencing our interactions with others. It's the unspoken that it more powerful than the lip service you get from pop culture. If you're not able to cope with being "unique" and all the BS that comes from it then learn to conform, stop doing chit that annoys people and be a team player.
You can still be unique within the confines of conformity. Learn it. Live it. Like it! Otherwise, people are going to continue to tell you to kill yourself in RL. BTW, if it's on TS, it's still not RL. If it's to your face, which is RL, then I'd say you need to modify your behavior.
Otherwise, there's little sense in coming to a game forum to talk about your life issues. Everyone here is here to play a game, not psycho-analyze you. See my sig! HTFU!...for the children! |
Setaceous
Nexus Prima
144
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Posted - 2013.06.30 13:17:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Setaceous wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Whatever happened to "sticks and stones"?
Most people grew up and stopped being childish. Growing up means that you lose emotional resiliency? Damn... I've been doing it wrong for years!
Emotional resiliency means not throwing a tantrum and calling others names, because you're better able to handle the stress that those outbursts were caused by |
Karak Terrel
As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions
223
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Posted - 2013.06.30 13:34:00 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:So this has happened 3 times this month and you're still not getting the hint? tough.
My sympathy is with the guys who's game time you seem so intent on ruining to illicit such a response from them. Your sympathy is with guys that try to push someone into suicide because they lost some pixel spaceships?? |
Robert Saint
Playright
76
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Posted - 2013.06.30 14:03:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Quote:You are dealing with someone who most likely was very hurt by your comments and went "over the line" as you put it.
As others have said, be kind... You and the rest of the hurt feelings brigade just don't seem to get it. No in game actions, none whatsoever, justify telling someone to kill themselves. I could camp you in station 23/7 for months until you literally quit the game, and that still does not give you any justification to tell me to kill myself. If you think that it does, and I believe you do think that given that you put quote marks in "over the line", then you need to learn to separate yourself from the game a bit (actually a lot). If lost pixels are so enraging to anyone that they say something like this then they are in the wrong. That's the part where you keep getting lost. YOU are in the wrong. You are wrong because you are telling people that somehow it's their fault another person broke the EULA. You are wrong because you seem to think that unless everyone is all carebear kindness, pink and fluffy bunnies in a grimdark video game about blowing up spaceships, that it somehow excuses the bile and vitriol that roll off the lips of the ganked. And you are wrong because you think it might ever stop. We gank them precisely because they rage so hard over it, we gank them because they take their space pixels too seriously, but most of all we gank them because it's fun. And it's a video game, so that is ok. Telling someone that you want them to die in real life, and describing how, is not ok. There's an order of magnitude of difference.
i completely agree with you 1000% I think you misunderstood the intent of my post.... it was to help the OP, not be a judge.
IF I WAS A JUDGE I think anyone that says ANYTHING so derogatory as stated by the OP should be BANNED from ever playing this game, ever getting another account, etc... I think we've all heard of the CSM that went "Over the line"..... that player should have been banned, if they haven't already as well..... that type of message isn't strong enough in this game. |
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
5843
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Posted - 2013.06.30 14:25:00 -
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Stigman Zuwadza wrote:CCP, I believe you need to permanently ban the OP for their own good.
They've indicated a predilection to trouble and I feel their post is further proof of their desire to perpetuate their angst. Citing a mental illness as a means to get you (CCP) to dispense further misery is in my eyes, worse than any of the actions players may of taken against the OP.
It sounds as though the OP seeks out such troubles so that they can purposefully escalate it further with petitions. You (CCP) should nip this in the bud now!
I think any player that causes strife should expect some comeback regardless of how vitriol it may be.
Wow... taking one post where the OP did something within the intended framework of the game and someone else responded by breaking EULA but this poster thinks the OP should be banned??? Evil
Who says the player caused strife? Is ganking, scamming, ransoming, podding strife? If it is then many EvE players are guilty and should be banned by your standards.
You dont' even KNOW what OP did. I dont' either, but it was within allowed behavior in the game I betcha.
I'd hate to have you as a parent. If I was 5 and spilled milk you would probably whip me with a fishing rod and call the police and ask them to put me in a cell for the night to teach me a lesson.
You should change your bio... it doesn't fit. I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |
Stigman Zuwadza
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
124
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Posted - 2013.06.30 14:58:00 -
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Quote:OP: I do stuff that annoys and angers others. I suffer from depression
Quote:Me: CCP, I believe you need to permanently ban the OP for their own good. The OP has made it clear what it is they do. The OP is the protagonist in this story. My post is about protecting this individual from themselves for their own good, based on their own admission as to their well being.
Quote:You: I'd hate to have you as a parent.
So you'd hate to have a parent that looked out for your well being and who's first priority would be to protect you from being destructive which could lead to you becoming unwell.
Fly safe. o7 Its broken and its been broken for a long time and it'll be broken for some time to come. |
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
5844
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Posted - 2013.06.30 15:12:00 -
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Stigman Zuwadza wrote:Quote:OP: I do stuff that annoys and angers others. I suffer from depression Quote:Me: CCP, I believe you need to permanently ban the OP for their own good. The OP has made it clear what it is they do. The OP is the protagonist in this story. My post is about protecting this individual from themselves for their own good, based on their own admission as to their well being. Quote:You: I'd hate to have you as a parent. So you'd hate to have a parent that looked out for your well being and who's first priority would be to protect you from being destructive which could lead to you becoming unwell. Fly safe. o7
I do stuff that annoys and angers others in the game, Many players do stuff that annoy and anger others in the game. Gankers, Scammers, Podders, Corporate Theifs, Ransomers, they all do stuff that anger and annoy others in the game.
The OP is not a protagonist because all of the above is allowed and even encouraged in this game. I think your response was excessive. If you really cared you might have addressed the situation by first finding out what OP did maybe. Then going on from there.
I dont' see you has looking out for OP's well being. I see you over-reacting and not coming up with a good solution.
You fly safe too :) I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |
Delt0r Garsk
Tartarus Legion Domination..
0
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Posted - 2013.06.30 15:12:00 -
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I am confused? Do people really read local? I thought it was just a great way of getting a heads up in low and null sec.
Seriously. Don't listen to the internet. Listen to friends on the internet. |
Wodensun
ZeroSec
111
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Posted - 2013.06.30 15:18:00 -
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Can't take the heat? Dont start a fire. Do not give me likes them 101 likes arent a accident... |
Stigman Zuwadza
Repercussus RAZOR Alliance
125
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Posted - 2013.06.30 15:34:00 -
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BoSau Hotim wrote:I do stuff that annoys and angers others in the game, Many players do stuff that annoy and anger others in the game. And I'm sure I do things that irritate other players.
The difference being we're not making declarations about our health and how because of our health situation we should be given special precedence when playing.
The OP has made claims that they have had several interactions with CCP, CCP have acted on those interactions even if their action was a non-action.
The OP is dissatisfied with those CCP interactions and has brought the situation to the forums.
To me it seems as though the OP is experiencing a lot of negative outcomes, this could be a potential trigger for a heightened bout of depression. The OP needs protecting from this.
Any player actions are secondary in this matter, the source of all the angst is coming from the OP, CCP's first response should be to deal with the source, then explore the secondary matter of any comments made by players.
Fly safe. o7 Its broken and its been broken for a long time and it'll be broken for some time to come. |
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BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
5844
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:07:00 -
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Stigman Zuwadza wrote:BoSau Hotim wrote:I do stuff that annoys and angers others in the game, Many players do stuff that annoy and anger others in the game. And I'm sure I do things that irritate other players. The difference being we're not making declarations about our health and how because of our health situation we should be given special precedence when playing. The OP has made claims that they have had several interactions with CCP, CCP have acted on those interactions even if their action was a non-action. The OP is dissatisfied with those CCP interactions and has brought the situation to the forums. To me it seems as though the OP is experiencing a lot of negative outcomes, this could be a potential trigger for a heightened bout of depression. The OP needs protecting from this. Any player actions are secondary in this matter, the source of all the angst is coming from the OP, CCP's first response should be to deal with the source, then explore the secondary matter of any comments made by players. Fly safe. o7
it's not CCP's place to parent this person, nor protect them as you stated above. They are game developers not psychiatrists and doctors.
You as a poster can of course recommend to the OP a course of action as they have opened up this subject themselves. But CCP would actually be unwise to intervene in this person's personal life nor take any action against them and ban them because they state that they suffer from bouts of depression. If the post was of a different nature and was more threatening to harm themselves or do harm I am sure CCP has protocol to handle it.
The case here is for CCP to read OP's petition and act or not act based on CCP's own game rules. That is all. I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you
291
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:43:00 -
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make an alt on your account and use it and don't tell anyone your problems, assholes live on the net. Don't let this get you down, enjoy your game its what eves about playing the game, don't tell people your problems.
I have problems but its my business, good luck and enjoy the game You only-árealise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead. |
BadAssMcKill
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
288
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:49:00 -
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What have you done to make people mad at you out of curiosity (apart from badposting) http://i.imgur.com/6j6cIZE.gif-á |
Ace Uoweme
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
335
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Posted - 2013.06.30 16:59:00 -
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BoSau Hotim wrote:it's not CCP's place to parent this person, nor protect them as you stated above. They are game developers not psychiatrists and doctors.
And at the same time they don't need to have a petition system either. Nor intervene on anything.
Do you know why they do intervene? They couldn't operate a company otherwise. No carrier would allow them to operate.
There's standards that you have to accept to do things in society, and it's beyond you to control. Do you know why it's like that? It's because without it chaos would rule.
This is why governments aren't ruled by kids, as they're clueless. Can't think beyond the minute. Can't look past what's kewl.
It behooves any company that cares about their product and it's perception of it's product outside it's own user base to do something about harassment.
Are you paying attention to the news? Like what happened to Paula Dean? She's losing every contract for simply using the "N' word. PC gone wild? Maybe. But that's what businesses do to remove themselves from the controversy, as it's bad for business. Games are a business, and they don't need the flak. They don't need it because if politics has their way, they can be regulated if they don't self-police.
See?
So, yeah, the devs may not be MDs or Ph.Ds, but they're businessmen. In business it's about making a profit. You're not going to have much of it if someone gets hurt and the news reports it, especially a game that doesn't have a buffer of zillions of subs to withstand the firestorm and public scrutiny.
Think. "In a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." ~George Orwell
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Abon
STAHLSTURM Test Alliance Please Ignore
148
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:02:00 -
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Do not worry guys OP already called the cyber police as stated in his other thread... |
Robert Saint
Playright
77
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:10:00 -
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ctx2007 wrote:make an alt on your account and use it and don't tell anyone your problems, assholes live on the net. Don't let this get you down, enjoy your game its what eves about playing the game, don't tell people your problems. I have problems but its my business, good luck and enjoy the game
i agree with this, but if people hang out together long enough they start feeling like a community. People share in groups... I know it's called "Just a Game", but really no MMO is just a game, not when they allow chat.
I am totally good with people sharing stuff, it helps balance out the confusion of the "fake Personality thing"... every once in a while we all need to be reminded we're actually typing to a person who might not get it. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
567
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:12:00 -
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Ranting is not permitted on the forum. |
BoSau Hotim
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
5844
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:19:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:BoSau Hotim wrote:it's not CCP's place to parent this person, nor protect them as you stated above. They are game developers not psychiatrists and doctors. And at the same time they don't need to have a petition system either. Nor intervene on anything. Do you know why they do intervene? They couldn't operate a company otherwise. No carrier would allow them to operate. There's standards that you have to accept to do things in society, and it's beyond you to control. Do you know why it's like that? It's because without it chaos would rule. This is why governments aren't ruled by kids, as they're clueless. Can't think beyond the minute. Can't look past what's kewl.It behooves any company that cares about their product and it's perception of it's product outside it's own user base to do something about harassment. Are you paying attention to the news? Like what happened to Paula Dean? She's losing every contract for simply using the "N' word. PC gone wild? Maybe. But that's what businesses do to remove themselves from the controversy, as it's bad for business. Games are a business, and they don't need the flak. They don't need it because if politics has their way, they can be regulated if they don't self-police. See? So, yeah, the devs may not be MDs or Ph.Ds, but they're businessmen. In business it's about making a profit. You're not going to have much of it if someone gets hurt and the news reports it, especially a game that doesn't have a buffer of zillions of subs to withstand the firestorm and public scrutiny. Think.
READ. I never said for them not to do anything about the harrassment OP was getting. READ.
READ. Are you paying attention to what was written? It's not CCP'S place to BAN OP because she has bouts with depression. That is what another poster suggested..... READ before you answer someone's post and talk nonsense.
THEN THINK AGAIN. I'm not a carebear... I'm a SPACE BARBIE!-á Now... where's Ken? |
Kijo Rikki
Powder and Ball Alchemists Union The Predictables
419
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:30:00 -
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Ace Uoweme wrote:BoSau Hotim wrote:it's not CCP's place to parent this person, nor protect them as you stated above. They are game developers not psychiatrists and doctors. And at the same time they don't need to have a petition system either. Nor intervene on anything. Do you know why they do intervene? They couldn't operate a company otherwise. No carrier would allow them to operate. There's standards that you have to accept to do things in society, and it's beyond you to control. Do you know why it's like that? It's because without it chaos would rule. This is why governments aren't ruled by kids, as they're clueless. Can't think beyond the minute. Can't look past what's kewl.It behooves any company that cares about their product and it's perception of it's product outside it's own user base to do something about harassment. Are you paying attention to the news? Like what happened to Paula Dean? She's losing every contract for simply using the "N' word. PC gone wild? Maybe. But that's what businesses do to remove themselves from the controversy, as it's bad for business. Games are a business, and they don't need the flak. They don't need it because if politics has their way, they can be regulated if they don't self-police. See? So, yeah, the devs may not be MDs or Ph.Ds, but they're businessmen. In business it's about making a profit. You're not going to have much of it if someone gets hurt and the news reports it, especially a game that doesn't have a buffer of zillions of subs to withstand the firestorm and public scrutiny. Think.
Knowing the bulk of the playerbase mentality, I doubt they would give a crap about a firestorm and public scrutiny. I mean, this is a company that took one of the most prick moves you can make in the game and advertised it as a feature.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
15049
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Posted - 2013.06.30 17:34:00 -
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Yummy Yummy Yummy wrote:I know I am not liked in eve and I do stuff that annoys and angers others in the game , but its a GAME.
I had today again for the 3rd time this month someone tell me to Kill myself in rl even describing how they wanted me to do it.
I just don't understand how some people can value a human life as so little, trying to push someone to kill themselves
I did the usual petition but im worried the GM's are not taking it seriously.
I just wanted to say before you think its funny to push someone to so something horrible to others or themselves , how would you feel if they actually did follow through with it and there blood was on your hands?
To be clear I suffer from depression, but I am Not suicidal
That said, after being told to kill myself it gets me sick to my stomach.
I am a part of a mental health community that has people far worse off then me which I have seen do desperate things when pushed into it.
I just ask you think of the repercussions beforehand before you chose the words you use to someone, ingame or out. We get mails from people all the time, questioning our morals. These mails often include ways we can copulate with others and ourselves, as well as DIAF in RL. The best way to approach such things is to laugh at them. I just can't take them seriously tbh, way too ironic.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
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