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Sofia Bellard
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.22 03:44:00 -
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Currently goons like to blow up innocent miners with NO risk and practically no ISK lost doing it. So in order to make their suicide ganking even MORE profitable, they convince CCP to make the new ships into battlecruisers with battleship weapons. This is an outrage. More changes to the game to cater to null sec blocks. Where will this blatant abuse of political power stop?
This winter expansion was going to be one of the best and you piece of **** goons had to go and ******* ruin it for everyone! Please leave this game and go find somewhere else to do your attention starved stunts!
Poor sad little pirates, -áwhy you so mad? |
SilentSkills
Estrale Frontiers
6
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Posted - 2011.10.22 03:48:00 -
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obvious goon alt |
THERisingPHOENIX
Phantom Fenix
0
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Posted - 2011.10.22 03:48:00 -
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lol |
Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
91
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Posted - 2011.10.22 03:50:00 -
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Hey not only goons are looking forward to this....
everyone else that has ever ganked a hulk is excited as they are And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell. |
Jhagiti Tyran
Muppet Ninja's Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
10
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Posted - 2011.10.22 03:52:00 -
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Why should it make suicide ganking more profitable? I wouldn't be surprised if these new BCs have around the same build cost as a tier one BS. |
Dessau
2
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Posted - 2011.10.22 03:53:00 -
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I've heard what the miners do to those rocks. They're not so 'innocent'. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
191
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Posted - 2011.10.22 03:53:00 -
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warning jumping to conclusions on how this works will only lead to you looking very stupid in the end. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
290
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Posted - 2011.10.22 03:58:00 -
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lol |
Vetruvius Valinor
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:03:00 -
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Lulwut? Making Sub-Capitals more and more relevant is a bad thing now? |
Endeavour Starfleet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
18
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:04:00 -
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CSM gives general ideas. CCP acts on them. The issue with the tornado being a potential boon to hisec ganking is addressed by making changes such as no insurance for such activity and a large buff to CONCORD. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
297
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:09:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:CSM gives general ideas. CCP acts on them. The issue with the tornado being a potential boon to hisec ganking is addressed by making changes such as no insurance for such activity and a large buff to CONCORD.
i think mining ships shouldn't be insured either, it's like wanting your car insurance to pay you when your unlocked car got stolen in the darker parts of town |
Johan Krieger
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
13
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:11:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:CSM gives general ideas. CCP acts on them. The issue with the tornado being a potential boon to hisec ganking is addressed by making changes such as no insurance for such activity and a large buff to CONCORD.
Maybe you shouldn't be mining where people are dying. |
Rocky Deadshot
In The Goo EVE Trade Alliance
18
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:13:00 -
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Andski wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:CSM gives general ideas. CCP acts on them. The issue with the tornado being a potential boon to hisec ganking is addressed by making changes such as no insurance for such activity and a large buff to CONCORD. i think mining ships shouldn't be insured either, it's like wanting your car insurance to pay you when your unlocked car got stolen in the darker parts of town
And receiving insurance payouts on concord kills is like using your car in a drive by shoting, running from the cops, wrecking it, then filing for insurance replacement of it. |
Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
19
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:16:00 -
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This thread is evidence that there are people out there who have not yet been able to afford their tinfoil hats, so the Z-rays are burning out their minds.
Won't you think of the tiny minds? Send donations of isk and capital ships to Largo Coronet for our "TINFOILS FOR TWATS" campaign this Christmas. Some of the money will be used to provide rolls of Reynolds Wrap to needy personages like the OP, and the rest will be used to buy cheap liquor and cheaper women for our holiday party. |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
1
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:18:00 -
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@OP... Hello Kitten Online is that way >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
297
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:25:00 -
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Rocky Deadshot wrote:Andski wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:CSM gives general ideas. CCP acts on them. The issue with the tornado being a potential boon to hisec ganking is addressed by making changes such as no insurance for such activity and a large buff to CONCORD. i think mining ships shouldn't be insured either, it's like wanting your car insurance to pay you when your unlocked car got stolen in the darker parts of town And receiving insurance payouts on concord kills is like using your car in a drive by shoting, running from the cops, wrecking it, then filing for insurance replacement of it. harden the **** up |
DuKackBoon
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:27:00 -
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Sofia Bellard wrote:Currently goons like to blow up innocent miners with NO risk and practically no ISK lost doing it. So in order to make their suicide ganking even MORE profitable, they convince CCP to make the new ships into battlecruisers with battleship weapons. This is an outrage. More changes to the game to cater to null sec blocks. Where will this blatant abuse of political power stop?
This winter expansion was going to be one of the best and you piece of **** goons had to go and ******* ruin it for everyone! Please leave this game and go find somewhere else to do your attention starved stunts!
The Tornado likely costs twice as much as a Brutix. Therefore that would reduce the profit. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
40
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:31:00 -
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Big guns + rather good tank + cheaper than a battle ship?
This won't exactly be Suicide Bombers. CSM do you think? No matter the changes, high sec people chose the safests. Lots of stick and they will leave. Half the problem is the players in null sec; we do not want to be there with you. |
Joan Avon
The 0rigin
2
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:36:00 -
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Largo Coronet wrote:This thread is evidence that there are people out there who have not yet been able to afford their tinfoil hats, so the Z-rays are burning out their minds.
Won't you think of the tiny minds? Send donations of isk and capital ships to Largo Coronet for our "TINFOILS FOR TWATS" campaign this Christmas. Some of the money will be used to provide rolls of Reynolds Wrap to needy personages like the OP, and the rest will be used to buy cheap liquor and cheaper women for our holiday party.
I hope you raise alot of money because your going to need a river of liquor and spend a fortune the size of Warren Buffets to get any woman anywhere near your holiday party.
That being said the specific's of the Tornado and it's 3 other companions haven't been fully released and as such it's too soon to evaluate their ability to suicide and/or gank anything.
The same cannot be said for Largo's booze and cash requirements in order to attract/compensate a woman to be near him. they've been astronomical for years. Let us begin.... |
Phill Esteen
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:44:00 -
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its time for players in hisec to stop letting the goon CSM screw them over https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24509 |
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Rocky Deadshot
In The Goo EVE Trade Alliance
18
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:56:00 -
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Andski wrote:Rocky Deadshot wrote:Andski wrote:Endeavour Starfleet wrote:CSM gives general ideas. CCP acts on them. The issue with the tornado being a potential boon to hisec ganking is addressed by making changes such as no insurance for such activity and a large buff to CONCORD. i think mining ships shouldn't be insured either, it's like wanting your car insurance to pay you when your unlocked car got stolen in the darker parts of town And receiving insurance payouts on concord kills is like using your car in a drive by shoting, running from the cops, wrecking it, then filing for insurance replacement of it. harden the **** up
Actually for the record, I find the general shinnangins in high sec pretty damn funny.... but I do find it pretty stupid that insurance companies wouldn't find a way to shortchange people... after all, that's how they make money.
And that thought has existed for years... receiving insurance after your ship was blown up by the defacto police of space is absurd. < And if you deny this fact ... or try to reason your way out of it... your just showing your juvenile nature and the fact that you have no idea how insurance companies run and make money. |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
1
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:56:00 -
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You think a bunch of de-organised pilots (npc corp dwellers mostly) that can't agree and fight for one goal (alliances in null are counting in thousands, not to speak of the coalitions) and usually play alone and/or short amounts of time will be able to manage that?! Do you also believe in Santa Claus? |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
30
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:57:00 -
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I think I'll have a new asteroid field parking enforcement ship soon |
Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
0
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Posted - 2011.10.22 04:58:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:warning jumping to conclusions on how this works will only lead to you looking very stupid in the end.
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, I enjoy this very much |
Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
269
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:01:00 -
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tHIS IS ALL MITTANS FAULT!!! i WANT HIS RESIGNATION IMMEDIATELY!!! [img]http://i53.tinypic.com/bebnf8.jpg[/img] |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
172
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:02:00 -
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we don't even know how its going to work yet... this BC might only fit 3 large guns or something silly like that also the cost is unknown |
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
4
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:03:00 -
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rage on little man, rage on... |
Kengutsi Akira
77
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:03:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:warning jumping to conclusions on how this works will only lead to you looking very stupid in the end.
In that case the Goons are already... ah yes nvm
Disband the CSM, rehire some of the 20% with the travel costs saved What Mittani wants, Mittani gets, Mittani help us all
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Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
44
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:06:00 -
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They need to start charging Aurum for tinfoil hats up in this *****. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC
41
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:27:00 -
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I like how the pubbies in empire are raging about goons. They clearly had the votes to vote in CSM representives, why are you pubs complaining? That nobody wanted to vote for some random level 4 mission runner? |
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Shadowsword
The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
33
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:36:00 -
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Sofia Bellard wrote:Currently goons like to blow up innocent miners with NO risk and practically no ISK lost doing it. So in order to make their suicide ganking even MORE profitable, they convince CCP to make the new ships into battlecruisers with battleship weapons. This is an outrage. More changes to the game to cater to null sec blocks. Where will this blatant abuse of political power stop?
You are a fool.
Once you take insurance into account, the cost of replacing one of those future battlecruisers is gong to be almost the same as replacing a dominix, and a dominix will certainly be more ganky anyway. For an alliance as insanely rich as the GSF, would it make sense to spend influence to save a measly 5-6 millions on individual ganks? Ridiculous.
You are also taking CCP for a bunch of tools, if you think two individuals can force them to make design decision they don't want to make. If you believe CCP are that low, why do you give them your subscription money? |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1409
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:41:00 -
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Sofia Bellard wrote:Currently goons like to blow up innocent miners with NO risk and practically no ISK lost doing it. So in order to make their suicide ganking even MORE profitable, they convince CCP to make the new ships into battlecruisers with battleship weapons. This is an outrage. More changes to the game to cater to null sec blocks. Where will this blatant abuse of political power stop?
This winter expansion was going to be one of the best and you piece of **** goons had to go and ******* ruin it for everyone! Please leave this game and go find somewhere else to do your attention starved stunts!
All I need to own you is my Brutix, son.
Don't need any fancy newfangled hypothetical battlecruisers, don't need no battleships. Just the Brutix~ |
Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:50:00 -
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Joan Avon wrote:Largo Coronet wrote:This thread is evidence that there are people out there who have not yet been able to afford their tinfoil hats, so the Z-rays are burning out their minds.
Won't you think of the tiny minds? Send donations of isk and capital ships to Largo Coronet for our "TINFOILS FOR TWATS" campaign this Christmas. Some of the money will be used to provide rolls of Reynolds Wrap to needy personages like the OP, and the rest will be used to buy cheap liquor and cheaper women for our holiday party. I hope you raise alot of money because your going to need a river of liquor and spend a fortune the size of Warren Buffets to get any woman anywhere near your holiday party. That being said the specific's of the Tornado and it's 3 other companions haven't been fully released and as such it's too soon to evaluate their ability to suicide and/or gank anything. The same cannot be said for Largo's booze and cash requirements in order to attract/compensate a woman to be near him. they've been astronomical for years.
I hear its legally impossible for most women to go to Goon parties with all the restraining orders they've racked up.
That and the BO. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
188
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:52:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:Currently goons like to blow up innocent miners with NO risk and practically no ISK lost doing it. So in order to make their suicide ganking even MORE profitable, they convince CCP to make the new ships into battlecruisers with battleship weapons. This is an outrage. More changes to the game to cater to null sec blocks. Where will this blatant abuse of political power stop?
This winter expansion was going to be one of the best and you piece of **** goons had to go and ******* ruin it for everyone! Please leave this game and go find somewhere else to do your attention starved stunts! All I need to own you is my Brutix, son. Don't need any fancy newfangled hypothetical battlecruisers, don't need no battleships. Just the Brutix~
Hear hear!
Still, the first day these things hit I'm grabbing a Gallente T3 BC and finding some "Invincible Orca" and shoving Large T2 Blasters down their fat pubbie throats.
No one is safe. WINTER IS COMING. |
Jerick Ludhowe
Shadow Legion Industries Dark Phoenix Rising.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:56:00 -
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2/10 not original... Already enough idiots freaking out about fittings that have not been posted... |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
1
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:57:00 -
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Xython wrote:*snip*
Still, the first day these things hit I'm grabbing a Gallente T3 BC and finding some "Invincible Orca" and shoving Large T2 Blasters down their fat pubbie throats. You know, if you stick them into the other end and hit the trigger you can see the glow in their eyes before they explode... makes for a far nicer picture
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Jerick Ludhowe
Shadow Legion Industries Dark Phoenix Rising.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.22 05:59:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:
All I need to own you is my Brutix, son.
Don't need any fancy newfangled hypothetical battlecruisers, don't need no battleships. Just the Brutix~
can we just disband the csm asap and be done with it already ccp?
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Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
1
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Posted - 2011.10.22 06:00:00 -
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Xython wrote:The Mittani wrote:Sofia Bellard wrote:Currently goons like to blow up innocent miners with NO risk and practically no ISK lost doing it. So in order to make their suicide ganking even MORE profitable, they convince CCP to make the new ships into battlecruisers with battleship weapons. This is an outrage. More changes to the game to cater to null sec blocks. Where will this blatant abuse of political power stop?
This winter expansion was going to be one of the best and you piece of **** goons had to go and ******* ruin it for everyone! Please leave this game and go find somewhere else to do your attention starved stunts! All I need to own you is my Brutix, son. Don't need any fancy newfangled hypothetical battlecruisers, don't need no battleships. Just the Brutix~ Hear hear! Still, the first day these things hit I'm grabbing a Gallente T3 BC and finding some "Invincible Orca" and shoving Large T2 Blasters down their fat pubbie throats. No one is safe. WINTER IS COMING.
OH YEAH?!
Well, I'll just use my Orca Speed-fit; try and keep up with me when I'm hauling ass at 132m/s
/flex /lol@self |
Theodoric Darkwind
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
34
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Posted - 2011.10.22 06:02:00 -
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If you think this CSM has screwed you over you really need to pull your head out of the sand.
This CSM was the one that pushed CCP to renew focus on actual internet spaceships instead of interstellar barbie dolls and 60 dollar monacles, keep that in mind before you go spewing hate at the current CSM.
Im sure the tier 3 battlecruisers wont hold much interest for you as its not going to make your mackinaw bot farm any more profitable and isn't likely going to dethrone BSes or tengus for L4 mission running. But for those of us who aren't highsec carebears it gives us more fun ships to get blown up in pvp, and more fun stuff for industrialists to build and make tons of isk off of. |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
2
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Posted - 2011.10.22 06:03:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:The Mittani wrote:All I need to own you is my Brutix, son.
Don't need any fancy newfangled hypothetical battlecruisers, don't need no battleships. Just the Brutix~ can we just disband the csm asap and be done with it already ccp? Reason: Jerick doesn't like the chair to blow up people in Eve Online?! LOL.
If you have some of that **** left over you must be smoking, pass it on.. cheers mate!
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1411
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Posted - 2011.10.22 06:35:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:The Mittani wrote:
All I need to own you is my Brutix, son.
Don't need any fancy newfangled hypothetical battlecruisers, don't need no battleships. Just the Brutix~
can we just disband the csm asap and be done with it already ccp?
oh god a csm rep blew up a ~innocent miner~ in a pvp spaceshp mmorpg
CALL THE POLICE
IN REAL LIFE
:siren: |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1411
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Posted - 2011.10.22 06:37:00 -
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the mittani likes to violence boats in space
DEMAND HIS RESIGNATION
boat violence is unacceptable in 'eve online', a game about ponies, orbiting asteroids and peace |
cr00ked
Morning Wood Associates
0
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Posted - 2011.10.22 06:55:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:the mittani likes to violence boats in space
DEMAND HIS RESIGNATION
boat violence is unacceptable in 'eve online', a game about ponies, orbiting asteroids and peace
From what i've seen, this guy seems pretty cool. I like his mind set. I would vote him back in.
*for the record I am not Goon affiliated in any manner. |
Fille Balle
Ballbreakers R us
7
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:07:00 -
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Hi there folks!
I just like to make one small correction.
Have a search around the old forums and you'll find a number of threads suggesting similar things. Amongst them was also the idea of destroyers with cruiser size weapons. In other words, this is a player suggestion being implemented, not a CSM nor a CCP original idea.
tl;dr: Not the CSM, this was a player suggestion
And after dropping that little gem in here, I'll just let myself out again.
*walks out* |
Kengutsi Akira
77
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:11:00 -
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cr00ked wrote:The Mittani wrote:the mittani likes to violence boats in space
DEMAND HIS RESIGNATION
boat violence is unacceptable in 'eve online', a game about ponies, orbiting asteroids and peace From what i've seen, this guy seems pretty cool. I like his mind set. I would vote him back in. *for the record I am not Goon affiliated in any manner.
Lol he will be voted back in... DCF has to vote for him thats 72% of null right there. The only way he doesnt get re-elected is if he doesnt run. Funny, the Goons that say they elect him chairman for life when he already is.
What Mittani wants, Mittani gets, Mittani help us all
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Harold Tuphlos
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
18
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:21:00 -
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Kengutsi Akira wrote:cr00ked wrote:The Mittani wrote:the mittani likes to violence boats in space
DEMAND HIS RESIGNATION
boat violence is unacceptable in 'eve online', a game about ponies, orbiting asteroids and peace From what i've seen, this guy seems pretty cool. I like his mind set. I would vote him back in. *for the record I am not Goon affiliated in any manner. Lol he will be voted back in... DCF has to vote for him thats 72% of null right there. The only way he doesnt get re-elected is if he doesnt run. Funny, the Goons that say they elect him chairman for life when he already is.
You sound kind of mad, but I hope you're not. |
Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
121
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:39:00 -
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The CSM is a powerless PR farce. |
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
0
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:51:00 -
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I personally love the idea of the new Pocket Battleship class. BC Tank makes you fit and fly smart. BB firepower let's you hit hard.
If folk decided to use it for mission running or ganking, I really don't care ... enjoy your game. |
Nick Bison
Bison Industrial Inc Thundering Herd
0
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Posted - 2011.10.22 07:53:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:the mittani likes to violence boats in space
DEMAND HIS RESIGNATION
boat violence is unacceptable in 'eve online', a game about ponies, orbiting asteroids and peace
Now, THAT'S funny! |
Shin Dari
The Vendunari Warped Aggression
7
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Posted - 2011.10.22 08:02:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:the mittani likes to violence boats in space
DEMAND HIS RESIGNATION
boat violence is unacceptable in 'eve online', a game about ponies, orbiting asteroids and peace What about ponies that gank miners?
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Amro One
One.
3
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Posted - 2011.10.22 08:02:00 -
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I did not think new ships in eve would be viable ISK wise for ganking.
How much did the first Tengu/noctis sell for when it first came out?
Thank god we don't have you people making EVE. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
300
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Posted - 2011.10.22 08:31:00 -
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Amro One wrote:I did not think new ships in eve would be viable ISK wise for ganking.
How much did the first Tengu/noctis sell for when it first came out?
Thank god we don't have you people making EVE.
Because comparing a T1 ship whose BPO will be seeded all over Empire and a ship that was released alongside the part of the game containing the materials required to make it (wormholes) is totally valid. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
804
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Posted - 2011.10.22 08:34:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:The issue with the tornado being a potential boon to hisec ganking is addressed by making changes such as no insurance for such activity and a large buff to CONCORD. GǪas soon as someone can prove that there is some kind of issue with it and that insurance and/or CONCORD needs an kind of change.
Hasn't happened so far. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
111
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Posted - 2011.10.22 09:49:00 -
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Good grief, so much speculation. Anyone playing this game could benefit, not just one group of people. Calls for resignation, for disbanding, for this and that, holy krap. Play Eve, not individuals.
--=-- The universe is an ancient desert, a vast wasteland with only occasional habitable planets as oases. We Fremen, comfortable with deserts, shall now venture into another. - STILGAR, From the Sietch to the Stars. |
Khazarn Areth
The Black Pigs The Black Pigs Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.10.22 09:57:00 -
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Im waiting till the new ships are released before i draw any conclusions as to their uses |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
76
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Posted - 2011.10.22 10:01:00 -
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Please discuss feedback on the Tornado in the already existing feedback thread. Thank you! CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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