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Hyki Lomo
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Posted - 2005.10.24 23:19:00 -
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One war over, another one begins.
Today however saw the joining of TheKiller8 to EvE University, some say a coincidence. I myself think it'll give him someone to kill :D. |
Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.10.24 23:22:00 -
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Lmao why do you guys keep declaring on a noob corp???
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.10.24 23:26:00 -
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All right, CCP ban all the accounts of those griefers. Problem solved, move on, nothing to see here.
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Miraki Alsento
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Posted - 2005.10.24 23:43:00 -
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Well we fought back agains Huff, and we'll for sure fight back this time aswell.
Granted I think everyone in Eve University was looking foreward for some time without having to look over the shoulder at every turn, I know I was. But the more we're forced to fight, the better we'll become, I just hope this wont scare any more new players from the game, I know the last war did that, and thats my only real big problem with this.
Other than that all I have to say is: "See ya on the battlefield 2nd Panza Army"
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Irrilian
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Posted - 2005.10.25 00:17:00 -
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Originally by: Hyki Lomo Edited by: Hyki Lomo on 24/10/2005 23:34:12 Edit : To avoid some confusion, I am in no way affiliated to 'HUFF' or '2nd Panza Army'. I am merely stating what I have seen.
May I congratulate you on your alertness then. To have formulated a comment on a war not concerning you barely minutes after Concord announced it is a testament to your perception.
Eve University Capital Module Shop |
Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.10.25 00:29:00 -
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Who are the 2nd panza army?
Whatever... I feel sorry for them. They have no idea what's been unleashed within the ranks of Eve U.
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All
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Posted - 2005.10.25 00:37:00 -
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2nd panza army consist of ex huff members
now to comment on the thread poster, u could have left that for us to announce
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.25 00:38:00 -
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Originally by: All 2nd panza army consist of ex huff members
now to comment on the thread poster, u could have left that for us to announce
**** *** forums... this was me...
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.25 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja All right, CCP ban all the accounts of those griefers. Problem solved, move on, nothing to see here.
Tell me you are joking? ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
drewitzu
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Posted - 2005.10.25 01:56:00 -
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Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Lmao why do you guys keep declaring on a noob corp???
I imagine it's to gain notoriety and given the 12 forum pages of wailing and gnashing of teeth during Eve University's last war, it seems to work doesn't it?
Personally I don't see the problem. Eve University is a corp in Eve, therefore they can be warred upon like any other ... why should any exceptions be made? There are new players in almost all corps.
By all accounts Eve University handled themselves very well during their last war and I am sure they will put what they learned to good use in this one.
That said, good luck to Eve University
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Domalais
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Posted - 2005.10.25 02:08:00 -
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I predict the next thread like this will be Eve U war deccing someone else.
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.10.25 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Miraki Alsento I think everyone in Eve University was looking foreward for some time without having to look over the shoulder at every turn, I know I was.
Stop thinking that way. That's the lesson.
I'm sure you can handle this just as well as the first one. ------------------------------------------- Sometimes, I wake up but keep on dreaming. |
Morning Maniac
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Posted - 2005.10.25 06:06:00 -
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Now I'm really ****ed off. This is a Huff alt corp so it's the same people all over again. Sure it's by the rules but it's still annoying.
MM Channel "EVE University" www.eve-university.cjb.net (ingame) EVE University commercial |
Morning Maniac
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Posted - 2005.10.25 08:24:00 -
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I am afraid that a lot of people here don't get how we usually work. If we were like any other corp I'd say we were doing pretty well. We've got a core of pilots willing to fight kicking our enemy's behind.
That's not the problem. The main problem is that the influx of new players and our ability to help people has almost completely stopped since these wars started. The people who have joined have been mostly left out of chats and operations because a lot of them are spies.
Anyway, I'm fully aware that it's within the rules of the game and if I have to log on for the entertainment of the Huff people, or whatever they call themselves, instead of my own then so be it.
MM Channel "EVE University" www.eve-university.cjb.net (ingame) EVE University commercial |
LTHenrich Lehmann
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Posted - 2005.10.25 08:38:00 -
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For what it is worth as a new player, I say respect to you in Eve Uni and GL in any fighting actions.
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Agil Scout
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Posted - 2005.10.25 08:42:00 -
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Panza Army > Panzy Army. ------------ [IAC] Teh best noob corp in the world. I R AN ALT FEAR ME! |
Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.25 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Morning Maniac Edited by: Morning Maniac on 25/10/2005 08:28:16 I am afraid that a lot of people here don't get how we usually work. If we were like any other corp I'd say we were doing pretty well. We've got a core of pilots willing to fight kicking our enemy's behind.
That's not the problem. The main problem is that the influx of new players and our ability to help people has almost completely stopped since these wars started. The people who have joined have been mostly left out of chats and operations because a lot of them are spies.
Anyway, I'm fully aware that it's within the rules of the game and if I have to log on for the entertainment of the huff people, or whatever they call themselves, instead of my own then so be it.
Edit: Domalais might be right, I'll need to talk to the rest of the gang to see if it's worth declaring back on huff to stop their mining and agent running isk making operations.
If you want them to stop, I'd just ask them mate. Seriously, if you aren't ready for another war look for another option.
If this is a Huff alt corp (rather than a corp with some ex-Huff members) then I am frankly dissapointed in them, it isn't the Huff way. I posted in defence of the first war, but I won't be doing so in this case.
That doesn't mean I think there is anything 'wrong' with declaring on E-U, just like any other corp, but they deserve a little time to recover; frankly I think they have earned it. They showed Eve that groups of players can stand up and fight back, and that SPs are not everything.
Give E-U the respect they deserve. ______________________________________________
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur |
Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.10.25 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja All right, CCP ban all the accounts of those griefers. Problem solved, move on, nothing to see here.
nah, send Aurora in concord BSs to kick the **** out of them 60km scrambling range, with 50km webbifying range, instalock, insta safespot scanning, insta BBQing etc... That would be funny as hell
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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Fire Hawk
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Posted - 2005.10.25 10:42:00 -
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Originally by: Morning Maniac Edited by: Morning Maniac on 25/10/2005 08:28:16 I am afraid that a lot of people here don't get how we usually work. If we were like any other corp I'd say we were doing pretty well. We've got a core of pilots willing to fight kicking our enemy's behind.
That's not the problem. The main problem is that the influx of new players and our ability to help people has almost completely stopped since these wars started. The people who have joined have been mostly left out of chats and operations because a lot of them are spies.
Anyway, I'm fully aware that it's within the rules of the game and if I have to log on for the entertainment of the huff people, or whatever they call themselves, instead of my own then so be it.
Edit: Domalais might be right, I'll need to talk to the rest of the gang to see if it's worth declaring back on huff to stop their mining and agent running isk making operations.
Hire Mercs to protect you, it's part of the game too.
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Morning Maniac
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Posted - 2005.10.25 10:56:00 -
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Originally by: Fire Hawk
Hire Mercs to protect you, it's part of the game too.
I think you missed the point I was trying to make. With the help we've received we showed we can protect ourselves. It's not about protection. It's about being able to do our work which we enjoy and think is useful for the game and the community.
Also I think with CDA's experience in their war against Huff I'm not sure any merc corp would be interested in the job. It involves camping afk people for hours on end and more of that sort of seriously boring stuff.
MM Channel "EVE University" www.eve-university.cjb.net (ingame) EVE University commercial |
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.25 11:15:00 -
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if huff ran out of money and can`t continu the war, take a break and give these guys a break aswell
its pointless to to drag this on with an alt/ex corp
if this is the new huff way, then for the first time i`ll agree with Avon
i`ll just say this now, u won`t see me fly as this is a trade/science guy with no gunnery skills, alt is training as we speak tho
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Dahin
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Posted - 2005.10.25 12:30:00 -
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when will all the attention *****s stop wasting everybody's time?
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2005.10.25 12:43:00 -
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Bloody hell, I'm away for 3 weeks and can't shoot
give em hell guys -----------
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.10.25 12:46:00 -
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Frankly spreaking, CCP and the GM's should deal with this.
Eve University does the whole game a favor doing what they do and if this game is to continue to grow then a happy base of noobs is required.
Better yet the major powers (both north and south) in this game should consider a joint statment declaring them off limits.
Griefing noobs is just cheap thrills at the expense of someone trying to learn a new game.
My two cents
Hooch
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hired goon
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Posted - 2005.10.25 13:00:00 -
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They abuse game mechanics, why don't you?
Put all the newbies temporarily into NPC corps, keeping contact using whatever channels you normally do (asude from corp).
Meanwhile, recruit fighters into eve-uni. -omg-
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Slaveabuser
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Posted - 2005.10.25 13:06:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja All right, CCP ban all the accounts of those griefers. Problem solved, move on, nothing to see here.
Griefers?
Were you born that stupid or is that something you actually had to work on?
Reallife a-hole, not just on the internet |
Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.25 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 25/10/2005 13:09:04
Originally by: The Hooch Frankly spreaking, CCP and the GM's should deal with this.
No. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, it is VALID. E-U are just another corp, and no exceptions should be made for any player corps.
If you don't like what is happening in game, do something about it in game.
This is not an issue for CCP, it is an issue for the players.
How about you open up some diplomatic channels and try and talk these guys out of the war? I'm sure they will listen, you are clearly a master debator.
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David Goodwill
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Posted - 2005.10.25 13:21:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Morning Maniac Edited by: Morning Maniac on 25/10/2005 08:28:16 I am afraid that a lot of people here don't get how we usually work. If we were like any other corp I'd say we were doing pretty well. We've got a core of pilots willing to fight kicking our enemy's behind.
That's not the problem. The main problem is that the influx of new players and our ability to help people has almost completely stopped since these wars started. The people who have joined have been mostly left out of chats and operations because a lot of them are spies.
Anyway, I'm fully aware that it's within the rules of the game and if I have to log on for the entertainment of the huff people, or whatever they call themselves, instead of my own then so be it.
Edit: Domalais might be right, I'll need to talk to the rest of the gang to see if it's worth declaring back on huff to stop their mining and agent running isk making operations.
If you want them to stop, I'd just ask them mate. Seriously, if you aren't ready for another war look for another option.
If this is a Huff alt corp (rather than a corp with some ex-Huff members) then I am frankly dissapointed in them, it isn't the Huff way. I posted in defence of the first war, but I won't be doing so in this case.
That doesn't mean I think there is anything 'wrong' with declaring on E-U, just like any other corp, but they deserve a little time to recover; frankly I think they have earned it. They showed Eve that groups of players can stand up and fight back, and that SPs are not everything.
Give E-U the respect they deserve.
Huff lost all their class when you left Avon --------------------------------
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Fuglife
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Posted - 2005.10.25 18:19:00 -
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Avon sucks
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Caeden Nicomachean
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:23:00 -
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I suggested it before - form an Eve University Alliance. This raises the war costs to more than a pittance and opens the door to stratifying EU into different sections (pvp training, research/industrial, etc), as well as provides an umbrella for similar corps to aggregate to the "train the new players" cause. Then establish relations with every alliance there is...get the entire Eve universe behind the idea of an EU that people keep their hands off of.
CCP can't do anything to these idiots, they are using game mechanics. EU needs to use them as well.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:40:00 -
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meh, wardeccing eve u is so last month...
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.25 21:58:00 -
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Originally by: Hast meh, wardeccing eve u is so last month...
yea but it seems like this month aswell
for any bored pvper, ur welcome to join up for the duration and pass on some valuable knowlage to some peaple who are willing to learn
to huff/2nd panza, a simple and easy question, why again?
nway, feel free to camp me 24/7 but i won`t entertain u
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The Hooch
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Posted - 2005.10.25 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 25/10/2005 13:09:04
Originally by: The Hooch Frankly spreaking, CCP and the GM's should deal with this.
No. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, it is VALID. E-U are just another corp, and no exceptions should be made for any player corps.
If you don't like what is happening in game, do something about it in game.
This is not an issue for CCP, it is an issue for the players.
How about you open up some diplomatic channels and try and talk these guys out of the war? I'm sure they will listen, you are clearly a master debator.
Ok, I am going to say this once.
Members of BoB, I am not looking for a running gun battle here in these thread.
ALL I MEAN is this, EU is doing a nice thing for new players and this helps us all, even you.
I am all for PvP mind you. But taking T2 ships and parking them out side of a station and ganking players that are days or weeks old is just lame. I cannot see you guys, or the The 5 doing such a thing and its simply hurts the game and thereby hurts us all.
To answer Avon's comment, if I was not needed by Vertigo in our party in the east right now, I would take some buddys to E U home space and protect them and deal with these guys. In fact it would be great if several of us (you guys I mean) went together and made a statement to these less than honorable so'so's.
The facts as I see it.
1. Eve needs to grow are larger player base. 2. CCP needs to make money to pay devs to make the game better and better. 3. New Eve players need help, E U does that for us 5. BoB, VC, The 5, you name it get a pool of players that at least have a few chops that get them started. 6. Un-happy noobs quit game, CCP makes less money. 7. Eve runs out of gas and dies.
I suggested the GM's because, Eve is at war right now and those who might help cannot.
How any player or Alliance of the quality of BoB could disagree with me on this mistifing to me.
Did I miss anything?
Can you hear me now?
Hooch
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Hyki Lomo Edited by: Hyki Lomo on 24/10/2005 23:34:12 One war over, another one begins.
Today however saw the joining of TheKiller8 to EvE University, some say a coincidence. I myself think it'll give him someone to kill :D.
Edit : To avoid some confusion, I am in no way affiliated to 'HUFF' or '2nd Panza Army'. I am merely stating what I have seen.
Well.. Piracy worked until my security rate dropped to the point where Concord started to dislike my presence in 1.0 systems. Then I noticed how people apparently enjoy using n00b-corps (just a quick term, I know what Eve University does for the eve-community and I have the utmost respect for them) as punch bags I thought it might be nice to help make this particular punch bag fling back a little.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:16:00 -
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lol Hooch
u`d be welcomed with open arms and beer ready to be served
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Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:36:00 -
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A Huff alt corp? Hmmm... I seriously doubt that as I have known these guys since the beginning of Huff Technologies and this is certainly not their way of doing things. I know the leaders of Huff Technologies personally and I just don't see them wasting their time on ALTS. If I am wrong then I guess they just really beacome bored with the game.
Jhered Out!
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:39:00 -
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Well the CEO of our 'new' enemy happens to have the corp 'Huff Technologies' in his employment history.. you know.. like five times. Same goes for the only other member I've seen so far.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jhered Stern A Huff alt corp? Hmmm... I seriously doubt that as I have known these guys since the beginning of Huff Technologies and this is certainly not their way of doing things. I know the leaders of Huff Technologies personally and I just don't see them wasting their time on ALTS. If I am wrong then I guess they just really beacome bored with the game.
Jhered Out!
look up ceo of 2nd panza Adara Algar and Joey Walker2, i think that answers ur question
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Caeden Nicomachean
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Posted - 2005.10.26 00:55:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8 Well the CEO of our 'new' enemy happens to have the corp 'Huff Technologies' in his employment history.. you know.. like five times. Same goes for the only other member I've seen so far.
Right, not alts, mains - that begged out of Huff during the war, laid low till the supporting groups left the area and cancelled their war, then redecced EU under the new name.
Rather slimy if you ask me.
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2005.10.26 02:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kerushi
Originally by: Jhered Stern A Huff alt corp? Hmmm... I seriously doubt that as I have known these guys since the beginning of Huff Technologies and this is certainly not their way of doing things. I know the leaders of Huff Technologies personally and I just don't see them wasting their time on ALTS. If I am wrong then I guess they just really beacome bored with the game.
Jhered Out!
look up ceo of 2nd panza Adara Algar and Joey Walker2, i think that answers ur question
Neither of these pilots are old school huff to my knowledge, what was the outcome of the huff war anyway? (not been ingame for a week or so to check on it )
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Mystiel Raleigh
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Posted - 2005.10.26 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Caeden Nicomachean I suggested it before - form an Eve University Alliance. This raises the war costs to more than a pittance and opens the door to stratifying EU into different sections (pvp training, research/industrial, etc), as well as provides an umbrella for similar corps to aggregate to the "train the new players" cause. Then establish relations with every alliance there is...get the entire Eve universe behind the idea of an EU that people keep their hands off of.
CCP can't do anything to these idiots, they are using game mechanics. EU needs to use them as well.
This is a great idea, and not just for the war. If you seperate the branches of training into different corps, it'll definitely increase organization. And you'd all be linked by alliance chat anyway.
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Caeden Nicomachean
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Posted - 2005.10.26 03:23:00 -
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Quote:
Neither of these pilots are old school huff to my knowledge, what was the outcome of the huff war anyway? (not been ingame for a week or so to check on it )
Huff retracted the war.
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Morning Maniac
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Posted - 2005.10.26 08:35:00 -
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Let's put some names to the alts then. Aldara Algar the CEO of 2nd Panza is the same person as Hettar. Joey Walker2 = Caeneus. 2nd accounts.
MM Channel "EVE University" www.eve-university.cjb.net (ingame) EVE University commercial |
Avon
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Posted - 2005.10.26 08:47:00 -
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Edited by: Avon on 26/10/2005 08:48:07
Originally by: TheKiller8 Well the CEO of our 'new' enemy happens to have the corp 'Huff Technologies' in his employment history.. you know.. like five times. Same goes for the only other member I've seen so far.
To be fair lots of players have Huff in their employment history.
When I left Huff I started a corp called Hidden Daggers, but that was in no way a Huff 'alt' corp (even though it contained a lot of ex-Huff members) .. in fact at one point we considered dec'ing them for a laugh.
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Sorja
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Posted - 2005.10.26 15:36:00 -
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Originally by: Slaveabuser
Originally by: Sorja All right, CCP ban all the accounts of those griefers. Problem solved, move on, nothing to see here.
Griefers?
Were you born that stupid or is that something you actually had to work on?
Oh? you have to resort to insults to make a point? Do you have a point in the first place?
Your comment, as well as your name in the first place, look very immature to me. You obviously don't know what griefing encompasses in PvP games, like you don't seem to realize how helpfull, if not necessary, corporations like EVE-U and people like Morning Maniac are for the community.
Would you by chance be someone only caring about his own satisfaction?
Wouldn't you be one screaming bloody xPlO17 if EVE-U moved all his pilots in a temporary corp to escape the war?
EVE has a trash reputation when it comes to his community. Nothing made up here, this comes from polls, whoever runs them. And this trash reputation come from a small minority, because EVE only stands by his community.
I said ban the griefers. I repeat, ban the griefers.
You are not happy with that? All the same.
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Adara Algar
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Posted - 2005.10.26 16:16:00 -
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The new war between the 2nd Panza Army and Eve uni is not affiliated with huff tech in any way, although as it is now well known i am the alt of Hettar "captain" in the ranks of huff technologys. The 2nd Panza Army was born to gain fresh talent to fill the ranks and the best way to learn pvp in my experience is to be at war, the fact that the 2nd Panza Army war dec'd eve uni is not a malicious act but rather as a passing memory of where i can find a corp willing to give a fight but not so difficult that it interupts training purposes, i say this as a point of fact HUFF TECHNOLOGYS IS NOT SUPPLYING AMMO, SHIPS OR CAPITAL IN AND SHAPE OR FORM TO THE 2ND PANZA ARMY!the calibur of the pilots within the 2nd Panza Army is not great, but with training they might become some thing to be reckon'd with, as for any pilot in this game they must start some where. And if Eve university is so upset over these wars that beckon there doors then i suggest that they find a new game that does not involve pvp.
Also so to Eve uni's defence i say this i have seen the calibur of your pilots and you held your own quite well, and the fact that you can whine so much to this new war decaration even when it from relitive noobs to the combat side of this game and the fact that your pilots now have more experience in fighting than the 2nd Panza Army you shouldnt find this war so intolerable.
i am also an honourable person, if eve uni feels that they are not in a position to fight this war then i am open to negotiations of there formal surrender to the 2nd Panza Army
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BillyBong2
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Posted - 2005.10.26 16:22:00 -
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Where do I sign up to assist Eve University?
I'll supply my own ships and everything.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 16:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kerushi on 26/10/2005 16:29:01
Originally by: BillyBong2 Where do I sign up to assist Eve University?
I'll supply my own ships and everything.
thank you for the offer Billy
You can apply at one of our offices. They are located at: ò Nourvukaiken IV - Moon 2 - Caldari Steel Factory ò Adrallezoen II - Moon 1 - Freedom Extention Storage ò Auberulle V - TransStellar Shipping Storage ò Scolluzer XI - Moon 2 - X-sense Chemical Storage ò Isendeldik IX - Moon 3 - Pend Insurance Investment Bank
anyone online with the role to accept will do it at first oppertunity as there is still an open door policy
many will appriciate it
edit: Nourvukaiken is our HQ system as shown in the corp info
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Morning Maniac
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:12:00 -
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You missed a few offices on that list. We're located in every starter station in EVE. A full list is on our recruiting thread which I refuse to go look for on this dial up connection at work.
To Hettar: Have you actually read what I said? I'm not complaining, just announcing. I've always stated it's inside the rules what you do and I'm not calling for ccp to ban you, I just call for you to stop it. Sure we can beat you, that's not the point. You're stopping our usual work, that is my point.
I'm not buying that Huff isn't financing this operation though. I'm sure that the ISK flow goes Hettar -> Aldara and not vice versa. Since Adara flies a npc station most of the time the only way to get to 2nd Panza is through Huff.
If you do want to get some new guys to experience pvp, an admirable cause, declare on Huff and play with your own friends, make it mutual and save yourself some isk in the process.
Finally I would like to ask all Huff/Panza members to pull their spies out of our corp. I am sure that everyone in the Uni would greatly appreciate that.
MM Channel "EVE University" www.eve-university.cjb.net (ingame) EVE University commercial |
Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:30:00 -
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Edited by: Pa1nbringr on 26/10/2005 17:31:01 i think some of you people instigate way too much, and morning maniac, i seriously doubt it bandit is gonna give isk to hettar's alt corp -
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j0rz
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:31:00 -
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lol @ aopprently hard nut merc corps war deccing a newb training corp
Yes very brave and um l33t
grow the f**k up
Griefers
Such is Life
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:46:00 -
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"The new war between the 2nd Panza Army and Eve uni is not affiliated with huff tech in any way, although as it is now well known i am the alt of Hettar "captain" in the ranks of huff technologys."
- We assumed he kept a grudge for winning the war in isk costs with help from allies, motive Hettar?.
"The 2nd Panza Army was born to gain fresh talent to fill the ranks and the best way to learn pvp in my experience is to be at war", Corperation description of 2nd panza army: "objectives : protect the state protect the allies kill the innocent"
Military school? ya right, u think we are stupid?
"the fact that the 2nd Panza Army war dec'd eve uni is not a malicious act but rather as a passing memory of where i can find a corp willing to give a fight but not so difficult that it interupts training purposes, i say this as a point of fact"
True, some of our members faught back with the help of allies who came to the rescue by declaring war on Huff, but, the cost was high as newbies in corp had to leave, newbies who wanted to join couldn`t and most important, newbies who signedup even with the risk, we`re "neglected" as attention was focused on the war and with an open door policy it was to easy for a spy to know what`s going on.
"And if Eve university is so upset over these wars that beckon there doors then i suggest that they find a new game that does not involve pvp."
Aiming for the closure for eve uni as we are forced to pvp and can`t to the thing we want, help the new comers to eve!
"Also so to Eve uni's defence i say this i have seen the calibur of your pilots and you held your own quite well, and the fact that you can whine so much to this new war decaration even when it from relitive noobs to the combat side of this game and the fact that your pilots now have more experience in fighting than the 2nd Panza Army you shouldnt find this war so intolerable."
Same as the abouve, we can`t accept new comers as the risk of losing the few isk they have would probably kill their moral and quit (trial or not) after being podded once or twice. Helping in our public chan can be done to some extend but still severly limits our efforts as alot of stuff is in the corperate hanger for them to use.
"i am also an honourable person, if eve uni feels that they are not in a position to fight this war then i am open to negotiations of there formal surrender to the 2nd Panza Army"
Running short on money? define honour
this post is a personal view of how i look at it but it seems some members of huff hold a grudge as it costed them more isk in losses then what they expected to be easy kills (big thanks to people and corperations who came for the rescue!!!)
Hettar. buddy, mate, if u want to teahc pvp, do like MM suggested, war dec huff, make it mutual and keep losses to your corperation newbies can`t get anywhere if they can`t mine, do agents or anything else besides of losing ships (wich are coverd), if they wanted pvp right away, they could have joined a pvp corp
big chance i`ll be the next flame, but ur post says nothing besides the abouve! Any corp or person who can spare the time and money, i`d like to request a personal favor by war deccing HUFF for a duration, even a day would be appriciated by many people, this way, Hettar`s money making machine is out of action for financing this war.
alot to ask i know, but during last war a few corperations jumped in for no compensation except helping out those in need as MM has done for any new comer who has passed Eve university`s door!
long post, i swear this will be the last time i do this...flame away! (away as away from forum...)
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Rekh Wuthrich
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:51:00 -
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Only entity truly being hurt in all of this is HUFF/2nd Panza Army. Respect is a hard thing to regain in EVE.
Blah blah, yes it's legal game mechanics. Doesn't mean that everyone shouldn't look down on these bored chumps for combating a corp that obviously is a tremendous asset to everyone playing EVE.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rekh Wuthrich Only entity truly being hurt in all of this is HUFF/2nd Panza Army. Respect is a hard thing to regain in EVE.
Blah blah, yes it's legal game mechanics. Doesn't mean that everyone shouldn't look down on these bored chumps for combating a corp that obviously is a tremendous asset to everyone playing EVE.
Good luck, EU. I know you'll take care of business.
TY
they have done that allready in the previous war as u can see from the 12 pages long thread
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Morning Maniac
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Posted - 2005.10.26 17:56:00 -
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Reading Kerushi's bit I came up with one huge advantage for Hettar and everyone else who reads the forums to stop this war. While this war lasts all Kerushi does is post on the forums!
I can't promise he'll stop when the war does but it might get a bit less since once every few minutes he'll have to drag the ore from his cargo to the can.
And don't worry about me, I don't undock in peace time either.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 18:01:00 -
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forum w***ing lvl3 training to lvl4 is starting to work, post are getting longer at times
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2005.10.26 19:39:00 -
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Originally by: Sorja
Originally by: Slaveabuser
Originally by: Sorja All right, CCP ban all the accounts of those griefers. Problem solved, move on, nothing to see here.
Griefers?
Were you born that stupid or is that something you actually had to work on?
Oh? you have to resort to insults to make a point? Do you have a point in the first place?
Your comment, as well as your name in the first place, look very immature to me. You obviously don't know what griefing encompasses in PvP games, like you don't seem to realize how helpfull, if not necessary, corporations like EVE-U and people like Morning Maniac are for the community.
Would you by chance be someone only caring about his own satisfaction?
Wouldn't you be one screaming bloody xPlO17 if EVE-U moved all his pilots in a temporary corp to escape the war?
EVE has a trash reputation when it comes to his community. Nothing made up here, this comes from polls, whoever runs them. And this trash reputation come from a small minority, because EVE only stands by his community.
I said ban the griefers. I repeat, ban the griefers.
You are not happy with that? All the same.
Might as well ban the game itself. Once you start banning griefers, where do you stop? Where is that fine line? Is it not griefing to shoot all neutrals on sight?
There is a difference between wardeccing EVE-U and defending contested space, granted, but there is no definite line. Calling for bans isn't the way. It's just a sign of ignorance to the game and how it works, and on what principles it was made. ---
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Gaeth hEirennan
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Posted - 2005.10.26 19:54:00 -
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Good Luck to Eve University!!!
For the New Players in Eve University...You are about to set sail on a voyage that is very exciting and full of adventure. It is a dangerous adventure, kind of like sliding your Johnson through a fun hole at a carnival. It could be a beautiful woman on the other side or it could be a hungry goat!
It is my sincerest wish for each and every member of Eve University that 2nd Panza Army turns out to be a beautiful woman.
Love,
Gaeth
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Grimster
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Posted - 2005.10.26 20:06:00 -
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TBH (and I never thought I'd say this) I totally agree with The Hooch.
IMHO EvE-U do a service to the game, helping to teach and retain the next generations of the playerbase and should be left to get on with it.
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.10.26 20:55:00 -
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This is a tactic that Huff has been using for many months. They create a seperate corp to war dec what they feel are defenseless corporations for the purpose of extorting a surrender "fee". One of my old members is part of Huff and brought their attention to us, thinking we were still short on PVPers. Once they figured out we were primarily deep in 0.0, and that we had no intention of paying them off, they dropped the dec, and all the members returned to Huff.
It may be perfectly acceptable in terms of game rules/mechanics....but it's still pathetic.
Good luck Eve U.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 21:31:00 -
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Originally by: Shyalud This is a tactic that Huff has been using for many months. They create a seperate corp to war dec what they feel are defenseless corporations for the purpose of extorting a surrender "fee". One of my old members is part of Huff and brought their attention to us, thinking we were still short on PVPers. Once they figured out we were primarily deep in 0.0, and that we had no intention of paying them off, they dropped the dec, and all the members returned to Huff.
It may be perfectly acceptable in terms of game rules/mechanics....but it's still pathetic.
Good luck Eve U.
TY for the info we have no intention of paying Hettar off
as for the tactic, it`s lame, they had a war for 3 weeks and lost quite abit of face in the eyes of the public, tho,all ended well without problems till now.
Keeping Huff out of this is impossible as these are huff members - no one can deny this so Huff`s name is dragged into this war aswell, we know they have a few respected members so we`ll leave it to their managment to solve Hettars bullying without naming other unconfirmed names.
Best wishes to those Huff members who know who they are, but this is against all those who are using 2nd panza army as an excuse ________________
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 21:56:00 -
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Quote: 2005.10.26 21:40:00 Mentally Unstable Enterprises has declared war on Eve University. After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
enough said, Hettar, couldn`t u have just asked them to join ur alt corp to save them the war costs? ________________
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Jiggy
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Posted - 2005.10.26 22:06:00 -
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The new corp seems to be an AUS Corperation alt/ex-member corp rather then being a Huff affiliate.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 22:20:00 -
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Originally by: Jiggy The new corp seems to be an AUS Corperation alt/ex-member corp rather then being a Huff affiliate.
thanks, but what do they have to gain besides a name (wich they allready have)?
non i can think of atm... besides 1 name
pick the n00bs month anyone?
banner is what i do during wars (thanks to MM for the tip ) ________________
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Silentbrick
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Posted - 2005.10.26 22:54:00 -
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I believe this sort of thing is wrong. Eve University does an excellent job of helping people learn the game and this sort of crap is what gives EVE a bad name and like all malignant rabid animals, they need be put down.
I've resigned as CEO of Vassa Military Industries and applied to join EVE University as a Combat Pilot. I urge anyone that feels the same, that EVE University's fine work deserves the protection of the human beings in the EVE universe, to do the same and join EVE University in it's time of need.
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ElweSingollo
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Posted - 2005.10.26 22:55:00 -
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for goodness sake can you guys not just leave Eve-U alone whatever the reason nothing can be gained from war dec'ing them except for making those that declared look like cowards who are afraid to fight someone who is skilled enough to fight back with ships more powerfull than a frigate or cruiser.
Heres an idea Eve-U you must have had a few peeps "graduate" from your corp how about you request them to give up a wekk of there time and rejoin Eve-U and give these two corps that decced you the fight of there lives. Failing that a viable option which has already been mentioned if you can get the isk is to form an alliance I doubt very much either of the 2 corps would have decced you had it cost them 200mil per week to do so.
BTW I have a couple of spare Frigates and stuff I would like to donate you got anywhere in Minmitar space with a Corp Hanger or can I put up and Escrow for you guys?
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:01:00 -
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Originally by: Silentbrick I believe this sort of thing is wrong. Eve University does an excellent job of helping people learn the game and this sort of crap is what gives EVE a bad name and like all malignant rabid animals, they need be put down.
I've resigned as CEO of Vassa Military Industries and applied to join EVE University as a Combat Pilot. I urge anyone that feels the same, that EVE University's fine work deserves the protection of the human beings in the EVE universe, to do the same and join EVE University in it's time of need.
/emote turns around the ass scratching Server HamsterÖ around and salutes ________________
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: ElweSingollo Heres an idea Eve-U you must have had a few peeps "graduate" from your corp how about you request them to give up a week of their time and rejoin Eve-U and give these two corps that decced you the fight of there lives.
Eve-U is mainly a corp to help ppl get to learn the game, there is a frig tournament tho but that`s mainly the pvp learned (till last war with huff) if there are old members out there who got the hang of pvp, they would be accepted warmly(sp) but it`s an open door policy (even now ith the 3rd war) so ppl come and go
Originally by: ElweSingollo Failing that a viable option which has already been mentioned if you can get the isk is to form an alliance I doubt very much either of the 2 corps would have decced you had it cost them 200mil per week to do so.
maybe now that could work but we didn`t had a slight idea that it would turn out like this, also funding an alliance is to much of an isk sink as the corp is there for the members but members try to progress so raising this much would have to depend mainly on donations.
Originally by: ElweSingollo BTW I have a couple of spare Frigates and stuff I would like to donate you got anywhere in Minmitar space with a Corp Hanger or can I put up and Escrow for you guys?
ships&modules are allways welcome as they go faster then i could eat cheese burgers minmatar space is quite out of the way with a war going and a pending war, i would glady accept it if i had a hauler alt, i`d like to thank you with for the offer and forward it along to see if anyone has hauler alt lying around ________________
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:18:00 -
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Here's another suggestion, along the alliance line. Try joining ISS, they are a completely neutral alliance that most other alliances recognize as such. I have no personal connection with ISS, so don't know how they would respond, but considering their nuetrality, and your work training pilots/players, seems like a match made in heaven to me.
Again, good luck. Were it not for our own wars, Celestine Prophecy would come to your aid.
Regards, Shyalud
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ElweSingollo
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kerushi
ships&modules are allways welcome as they go faster then i could eat cheese burgers minmatar space is quite out of the way with a war going and a pending war, i would glady accept it if i had a hauler alt, i`d like to thank you with for the offer and forward it along to see if anyone has hauler alt lying around
Well my main base is in Scolluzer only a couple of jumps from Duripont or whatever the Fed Navy starter system is called again I will see what I can do about hauling them back up there...
In regards to the Alliance cost your main cost would be in setting it up which costs 1 billion isk which is a lot of iskies but if you were able to set up a special "Alliance donation" fund I would imagine you could get it after that the only cost I believe is the monthly alliance bill which is 2 mil isk per member corp per month.... I think .
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FOEHAMMER006
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:31:00 -
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We got your back E-U
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:36:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Shyalud Here's another suggestion, along the alliance line. Try joining ISS, they are a completely neutral alliance that most other alliances recognize as such. I have no personal connection with ISS, so don't know how they would respond, but considering their nuetrality, and your work training pilots/players, seems like a match made in heaven to me.
Again, good luck. Were it not for our own wars, Celestine Prophecy would come to your aid.
Regards, Shyalud
great suggestion, thanks! i`ll run it by MM tomorrow when he gets back online and see what he thinks (i`m just the new corp forum w***e )
Originally by: ElweSingollo Well my main base is in Scolluzer only a couple of jumps from Duripont or whatever the Fed Navy starter system is called again I will see what I can do about hauling them back up there...
would be greatly appriciated
Originally by: ElweSingollo In regards to the Alliance cost your main cost would be in setting it up which costs 1 billion isk which is a lot of iskies but if you were able to set up a special "Alliance donation" fund I would imagine you could get it after that the only cost I believe is the monthly alliance bill which is 2 mil isk per member corp per month.... I think .
Along with Shyalud`s post, their both an option to counter these things for the future, we didn`t expected anything like this to happen, if such a thing would come in exsistence it will get a donators page with font 30 capital letters for every one who would have helped out in any way (pehaps it`s time for such a page now )
All suggestions are greatly appriciated, gives some ideas to counter this for the future ________________
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: FOEHAMMER006 We got your back E-U
all i can say is thank every one for any sort of help, what more can 1 say? (ok...a page would be nice(i`ll do some work on it tomorrow))
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Draco Alurius
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:52:00 -
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Before you start calling everybody in Panza a noob, not everybody here is involved with huff or anything like that. I just started playing and found a new corp to join and it just happened to be Panza when they were thinking about going to war. So don't go assuming we're all just looking for some fame. Some of us are just starting to learn on this side too.
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Draco Alurius Before you start calling everybody in Panza a noob, not everybody here is involved with huff or anything like that. I just started playing and found a new corp to join and it just happened to be Panza when they were thinking about going to war. So don't go assuming we're all just looking for some fame. Some of us are just starting to learn on this side too.
I believe it was your own CEO that called you noobs....
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Shyalud
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:57:00 -
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Originally by: Adara Algar The new war between the 2nd Panza Army and Eve uni is not affiliated with huff tech in any way, although as it is now well known i am the alt of Hettar "captain" in the ranks of huff technologys. The 2nd Panza Army was born to gain fresh talent to fill the ranks and the best way to learn pvp in my experience is to be at war, the fact that the 2nd Panza Army war dec'd eve uni is not a malicious act but rather as a passing memory of where i can find a corp willing to give a fight but not so difficult that it interupts training purposes, i say this as a point of fact HUFF TECHNOLOGYS IS NOT SUPPLYING AMMO, SHIPS OR CAPITAL IN AND SHAPE OR FORM TO THE 2ND PANZA ARMY!the calibur of the pilots within the 2nd Panza Army is not great, but with training they might become some thing to be reckon'd with, as for any pilot in this game they must start some where. And if Eve university is so upset over these wars that beckon there doors then i suggest that they find a new game that does not involve pvp.
Also so to Eve uni's defence i say this i have seen the calibur of your pilots and you held your own quite well, and the fact that you can whine so much to this new war decaration even when it from relitive noobs to the combat side of this game and the fact that your pilots now have more experience in fighting than the 2nd Panza Army you shouldnt find this war so intolerable.
i am also an honourable person, if eve uni feels that they are not in a position to fight this war then i am open to negotiations of there formal surrender to the 2nd Panza Army
See?
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.26 23:59:00 -
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Originally by: Shyalud
Originally by: Draco Alurius Before you start calling everybody in Panza a noob, not everybody here is involved with huff or anything like that. I just started playing and found a new corp to join and it just happened to be Panza when they were thinking about going to war. So don't go assuming we're all just looking for some fame. Some of us are just starting to learn on this side too.
I believe it was your own CEO that called you noobs....
no comment for a change ________________
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Draco Alurius
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Posted - 2005.10.27 01:28:00 -
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I'm not saying im not a noob, I kno what Adara said and I'm seeing what some of EU and others are saying and I'm just trying to say that not everybody here is from huff or is a player trying to act all tough fighting a corp with other new players. I don't really know much about Huff or EU and I just wanted to make it a point that i'm just a noob who happened to join when this war was starting. I wouldn't mind meeting EU, hostile or not.
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BillyBong2
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Posted - 2005.10.27 02:10:00 -
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I am bringing my BP0s down for the basic modules and few frigates/cruisers for you guys. I'll have them up an running in no time. IN the process of moving back down to you :)
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Tars Tarkas
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Posted - 2005.10.27 03:21:00 -
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After two days combat training, joined Eve-U to shoot at Huff, found their actions reprehensible enough to make it a worthy cause. Was boring, mostly, they were adept at flying a station, not so at flying a ship.
Still, was glad it was over and done, it interfered with Eve-U's mission of helping those new to Eve.
Now this new nonsense. Eh, more targets, maybe we'll find them in space, and not in stations. Doubt it.
Should counter-dec Huff, so they can't hide their support and spies there. Maybe find yet another barge afk at a gate. That was a funny kill.
BTW, if you make an alt to join the fight, start him with Frigate IV, and give him high int/mem, not perception/willpower, most of the two days were spent training skills that needed int/mem.
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iimethodii
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Posted - 2005.10.27 03:30:00 -
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i have only been in eve-u for a couple of weeks, (just after the huff war began) and now with this new war and the addition of MENTL, i had my doubts saying in eve-u. but with this overwhealming support i know that we are gonna succeed here. thanx to all who are willing to help over the next period that we r about to go through :)
PS: looking forward to fighting ya MENTL, finally some action in my timezone (i'm australian)
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Nekhad Jormuzzar
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Posted - 2005.10.27 06:09:00 -
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I'm also part of those who joined in the war against Huff.
It's been greatly dissapointing. My own RL may have been part of the problem, for whenever I logged in, just one or two huff would be on. In the case of 2nd Panza, things are even worse. From time to time Hettar/Adara will log in at out Nourv HQ station, then log out. Huff/2nd Panza were nowhere to be seen and gangs faced the obstacle of spies revealing our plans, so operations even when Huff was there were greatly hampered.
In short, it's been truly boring and I've only seen one of these guys for 3 seconds during the whole affaire, both of us in indies. I'm ashamed to say the only way I could help was answering questions in our channels.
Thus I've decided to move on. I'll prolly create an alt as per the prior poster's suggestion, join EU and move him to Nourv, but my main will leave the corp. Sorry guys.
As for the alliance bit, should EU decide it's the way to go to discourage griefing, I'm ready to contribute to a fund with 100m ISKs.
Good luck guys.
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Irrilian
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Posted - 2005.10.27 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Draco Alurius Before you start calling everybody in Panza a noob, not everybody here is involved with huff or anything like that. I just started playing and found a new corp to join and it just happened to be Panza when they were thinking about going to war. So don't go assuming we're all just looking for some fame. Some of us are just starting to learn on this side too.
Welcome to Eve, though frustrating at times, it is fun.
May I apologise for the circumstance you find yourself in, youÆve been caught up in a vendetta of your CEOÆs (Adara Algar) main character (Hettar). As you may be aware Hettar is a member of a corporation called Huff Technologies that was engaged in a three week spell of unprovoked aggression against Eve University, until in our view we (and others) fought them off causing considerable economic loss in comparison to what they inflicted upon us, and in theirs they just got bored. Unfortunately your CEOÆs player refuses to draw a line under the HuffT-EU incident, letting both corporations move on, but seeks to use 2nd panza army as a vehicle to continue the war by proxy.
Though we know where you are, there is no need to fear that we will resort to a tactic Huff employed against us, seeking out new player members for easy ôganksö, however if you actively engage in hostilities no quarter will be given.
If I may offer some advice as one player to another: please make sure that you have an up to date clone, one that will retain more than your current total skill points; that you ship is fully insured; and that you outfit your ship only with cheap no named modules, or at least ones that wont be a burden to replace.
I hope you enjoy Eve and that we meet under better circumstances in the future.
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thoradh
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Posted - 2005.10.27 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Irrilian
Originally by: Draco Alurius Before you start calling everybody in Panza a noob, not everybody here is involved with huff or anything like that. I just started playing and found a new corp to join and it just happened to be Panza when they were thinking about going to war. So don't go assuming we're all just looking for some fame. Some of us are just starting to learn on this side too.
Welcome to Eve, though frustrating at times, it is fun.
May I apologise for the circumstance you find yourself in, youÆve been caught up in a vendetta of your CEOÆs (Adara Algar) main character (Hettar). As you may be aware Hettar is a member of a corporation called Huff Technologies that was engaged in a three week spell of unprovoked aggression against Eve University, until in our view we (and others) fought them off causing considerable economic loss in comparison to what they inflicted upon us, and in theirs they just got bored. Unfortunately your CEOÆs player refuses to draw a line under the HuffT-EU incident, letting both corporations move on, but seeks to use 2nd panza army as a vehicle to continue the war by proxy.
Though we know where you are, there is no need to fear that we will resort to a tactic Huff employed against us, seeking out new player members for easy ôganksö, however if you actively engage in hostilities no quarter will be given.
If I may offer some advice as one player to another: please make sure that you have an up to date clone, one that will retain more than your current total skill points; that you ship is fully insured; and that you outfit your ship only with cheap no named modules, or at least ones that wont be a burden to replace.
I hope you enjoy Eve and that we meet under better circumstances in the future.
Well said sir, honour is alive and well in EVE
Waiting for new hardware to arrive, soon as its here EVE-U will receive a modest isk contribution which I hope will assist you in furthering your essential and much appreciated work. You have proven in the past weeks how well EVE-U can inflict crushing 'boredom' on those who expected a less well organized and capable response
The sig is all your's too Bravo
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Morning Maniac
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Posted - 2005.10.27 12:30:00 -
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The problem with Irrilian being so well spoken is that it really doesn't leave anything to say for the rest of us
I would just like to confirm that if the truely new pilots of Panza stay clear of us we do not intent to chase after them. Apart from Adara/Hettar, calling him primairy is just tradition now Just kidding though, I really wouldn't travel across space to watch you sit in a station. It's just that you choose to sit in our hq.
I would like to hear from the Mentally Unstable corp though to hear what their war dec. is all about. From what we've heard they are by no means newbies looking for an educational experience.
MM Channel "EVE University" www.eve-university.cjb.net (ingame) EVE University commercial |
Benilopax
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Posted - 2005.10.27 13:43:00 -
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ALMPC will be discussing action tonight. I hope we can help out in this.
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Kerushi
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Posted - 2005.10.27 13:45:00 -
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Our gratitude to all who are helping Time to stock more quafe ________________
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Dezzyb0y
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Posted - 2005.10.27 16:56:00 -
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Lol where huff getting owned? sux that. But who the hell are these new guys, never heard of em in meh life. ----------------------- Join the oveur fan club today and recive an e-flower!
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Omber Zombie
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Posted - 2005.10.28 13:43:00 -
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Lo Dezzy
Yes, Huff cancelled the war as they were 'bored'. 2nd Panza is run by the alt of a Huff member known by the name of Hettar.
We don't think Hettar likes eve uni because Hettar lost a lot of ships...
As for the other corp that war decced us. NFI.
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.28 15:10:00 -
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Yes well they're currently losing more
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.10.28 15:17:00 -
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I think EVE U should keep track of how many ppl quit the game due to these wars, or how many 14 day trials give up, etc...
Just for statistical curiosity...
Their data could reasonably be extrapolated to the many newb corps in the game.
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.28 16:14:00 -
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Haha most of the new people we had are in NPC corps doing just fine. We keep in touch with them through non-corp restricted channels, until people decide they have something better to do than pick on us.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2005.10.28 16:24:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8 Haha most of the new people we had are in NPC corps doing just fine. We keep in touch with them through non-corp restricted channels, until people decide they have something better to do than pick on us.
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Crissy
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Posted - 2005.10.28 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Avon Edited by: Avon on 25/10/2005 13:09:04
Originally by: The Hooch Frankly spreaking, CCP and the GM's should deal with this.
No. It doesn't matter if you agree with it or not, it is VALID. E-U are just another corp, and no exceptions should be made for any player corps.
If you don't like what is happening in game, do something about it in game.
This is not an issue for CCP, it is an issue for the players.
How about you open up some diplomatic channels and try and talk these guys out of the war? I'm sure they will listen, you are clearly a master debator.
I agree with avon on this one, E-U is just another corp in Eve and it does not matter if they take new players under their wing and show them how things get done in eve.
Don't get me wrong I think what E-U does is a great thing indeed but if a corp declairs war on them, the best thing taht E-U can do is to teach these new players how to "adapt" during times of war. It does not take very long for a noob train the skills for his rocket kessie or projectile firing vigil to be somewhat effective.
I do think it's highly dis-honorable for such experenced pvp corps like Huff declairing war on bunch of new players and that is not CCP's problem. The only thing that E-U can do is to teach these players to adapt.
I wish the best of luck to E-U Crissy
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Kalil d'Maelstromo
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Posted - 2005.10.28 19:29:00 -
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omw now
cya soon Irilian
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.10.28 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8 Yes well they're currently losing more
I predict either the new attackers will be sitting in THEIR stations camped within 2 weeks OR they'll "forget" to pay their war bill. Which brings me to my final thought, wouldn't it just be a ***** if Eve-U made the war mutual
*cues "cops" music* Then, whatcha gonna do Huff Boys?
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.28 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: TheKiller8 on 28/10/2005 22:24:26 Actually I haven't seen much of Panza since I chased their CEO around Nourvukaiken (our hq). These MUE guys however mean business and have launched their first attacks on us today. It started with a single crow in Nour, which I podkilled. It then became 2 crows and a Tempest which obviously didn't expect this. After that they got quite angry and we ended up with 2/3 HACs, a BS, a BC and a cruiser outside our hq.. forcing us to dock. After the camp they logged on mass in Nour.. then sometime later one of their members came online and set course for his HQ. Unfortunately for him I lead a gang on insta's which he apparently lacked and we catched up and killed him. So uh.. quite a day
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.10.28 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8 Edited by: TheKiller8 on 28/10/2005 22:24:26 Actually I haven't seen much of Panza since I chased their CEO around Nourvukaiken (our hq). These MUE guys however mean business and have launched their first attacks on us today. It started with a single crow in Nour, which I podkilled. It then became 2 crows and a Tempest which obviously didn't expect this. After that they got quite angry and we ended up with 2/3 HACs, a BS, a BC and a cruiser outside our hq.. forcing us to dock. After the camp they logged on mass in Nour.. then sometime later one of their members came online and set course for his HQ. Unfortunately for him I lead a gang on insta's which he apparently lacked and we catched up and killed him. So uh.. quite a day
LOL at discogeddon
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Armundo
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Posted - 2005.10.28 23:04:00 -
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Hehe nice geddon ^_^. And good to hear, you whack them bastards :P.
As to the guys who declared on Eve uni, I don't know what your aim is here, but it sure ruins any sort of name you might have, or want to, build up, or of course increase the bad name you already have.
Anyways, GL Eve Uni! Keep whacking em ;). <br>
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Karann
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Posted - 2005.10.29 11:21:00 -
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maybe the pvp aspect, to new players (i went motnhs without pvp when i started) will change their idea of the game
i hope the wars they have will create another generation of pvp players
c'mon guys, kill em
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Benilopax
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Posted - 2005.10.29 20:56:00 -
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Almpc will help it's Big Blue brothers we shall be attacking the agressors as soon as the alliance is officially taking on members.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.10.29 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Wrayeth on 29/10/2005 21:32:54
Originally by: Benilopax Almpc will help it's Big Blue brothers we shall be attacking the agressors as soon as the alliance is officially taking on members.
You know, I almost feel sorry for the poor pirates who war dec'd Eve University... Now that Eve University is part of Big Blue, they're up against one of the richest alliances in the game. I'm fairly certain Naga could afford to hire most of the merc corps in the game at once to spank the interlopers (aside from MC, which is currently on contract vs. 5)... -Wrayeth
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.30 17:51:00 -
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Why would we want to hire anyone? Our results so far stand at 3 crows, 1 HAC and 1 pod killed versus the loss of a Rifter. We know who they are, where they are and when they are online at any given time. The only thing this alliance will improve on those stats is kick up the war costs from 4 to 100 million isk, increasing overall losses even more for our enemies.
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Wrayeth
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Posted - 2005.10.30 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: TheKiller8 Why would we want to hire anyone? Our results so far stand at 3 crows, 1 HAC and 1 pod killed versus the loss of a Rifter. We know who they are, where they are and when they are online at any given time. The only thing this alliance will improve on those stats is kick up the war costs from 4 to 100 million isk, increasing overall losses even more for our enemies.
Hehe...good stuff, man. -Wrayeth
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.30 20:02:00 -
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Did I say 100mil a week? With the current 3 wars already on BB that'll make it.. 250mil a week.
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Franky B
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Posted - 2005.10.31 02:43:00 -
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oh man. vickers, you always pick the wrong corp to shoot :P first it was arrow.. who joined IRON (and put you at odds with us :() now its bloody EVE U and the big blue.
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Cummilla
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Posted - 2005.10.31 19:39:00 -
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The Eve U attackers had every opportunity to surrender or not commence the hostilities. TK8 has a few screws loose in a very good way. The Panzas will, I guess, learn the hard way.
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lord lex
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Posted - 2005.10.31 20:53:00 -
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is it just me being silly but why not just make a alliance with all the noob corps to form one super alliance the huge bill wpuld put people decing on you off and more people would make help alot easy... just a idea
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TheKiller8
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Posted - 2005.10.31 21:04:00 -
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Because war costs are calculated by the amount of wars declared on an alliance/corp not the amount of members it has which is pretty goddamn stupid if you ask me.
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ElweSingollo
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Posted - 2005.10.31 23:04:00 -
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Good to hear that the guys at Naga, X-Trader etc have given you a home in the Big Blue alliance Eve-U I hope this means you will be left alone to some extent and can get back to your good work.
Oh btw sorry it is a bit late but I have put those frigates up on Escrow for the corp in Duripont all Gallente cause I figured that would be the best bet for that starting area :D.
Hope they are of use.
PS hopefully they will be up soon got kicked out of Eve as I was writing this and going to put them on Escrow
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Gwarnina
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Posted - 2005.11.01 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Cummilla The Eve U attackers had every opportunity to surrender or not commence the hostilities. TK8 has a few screws loose in a very good way. The Panzas will, I guess, learn the hard way.
About two hours after you wrote this, Panza has retracted their war. We didn't see as much action as I would have liked, although we did lose some loners to accidents. Our students have learned much about PVP and what it means to be in a gang, so it was not a wasted time. We would have liked to take this learning process along in a way that does not place all of our students at risk, but there you have it.
Again, we have received a lot of support, with some very experienced people joining Eve Uni for the hostilities, which we are very grateful of.
This was forced evolution, as I see it. .
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