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Garbad theWeak
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:02:00 -
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I've been intrigued by FW since I started this game -- I even joined FW for a little while, although I struggled to get kills. Since then, I've moved to 0.0, done the blob thing, done the sov wars thing, and gotten a few thousand kills. But part of me still wants to try FW again...
So give me a sales pitch. Why should I join FW? Which factions are the most active now? |
Dank Man
FinFleet Raiden.
7
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:09:00 -
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Fight the for the Minmatar! best ships, and your fighting for freedom, against God fearing slavers! Plus the people there are the coolest, they need the most support, and the pvp in the southern region near curse and GW and low sec is the best training grounds around for new pvpers to get their feet wet. |
Dark Pangolin
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
10
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:26:00 -
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FW either currently has or has produced the best 10-50 man gang FCs and pilots. With very few exceptions I have never encountered anything in 0.0 or anywhere else that could go toe to toe with a fleet of FW vets. All we do is fight. All the time. ALL the time. FW is a meat grinder on am epic scale. Fighting over and over and over breeds the kinds of guys that win or quit. At it's best FW is a group of hard core impressive individual pilots and corps, at worst it's care bears in space. I would put a 20 man FW fleet of vets vs any random 40 man fleet. I have. And with very few exceptions I have not been disappointed.
My hat goes off to a few select low sec pie corps who consistently deliver impressive results and fight outnumbered (though not outgunned) |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
205
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:30:00 -
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The Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar factions are very active. Caldari has the most people but 90% of them are bears, half of the remaining are bears with teeth. |
Negativestatus
Never Enough Ammo Exodus.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:33:00 -
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Mekhana wrote: half of the remaining are bears with teeth.
Well said sir!! |
Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:35:00 -
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Its still one of the best small to med gang pvp enviroments.
But last time i looked into amarr-minnie warzone /2 weeks maybe/ it was really really quiet with neither of sides really active - except mission farmers ofc. |
Dark Pangolin
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
10
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:36:00 -
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Mekhana wrote:The Gallente, Amarr and Minmatar factions are very active. Caldari has the most people but 90% of them are bears, half of the remaining are bears with teeth.
I believe a bear with teeth is called a Pangolin. But yes... |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
205
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:37:00 -
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Lugalzagezi666 wrote:Its still one of the best small to med gang pvp enviroments.
But last time i looked into amarr-minnie warzone /2 weeks maybe/ it was really really quiet with neither of sides really active - except mission farmers ofc.
That's due to new neighbors I bet though. |
Dark Pangolin
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
10
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:46:00 -
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PL moved into Tama now no? |
Dark Pangolin
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
10
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:56:00 -
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iPhone forum surfing |
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Lugalzagezi666
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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:06:00 -
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Dunno if they moved, i definitely saw pl nyx try to save pl legion on 3-1 few weeks ago. |
Caldain Morrow
The Reavers Externus Hostis
3
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Posted - 2011.10.20 00:01:00 -
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Speaking from my experiences a year or so ago. There' usually one or two people looking for to fleet up for a roam most nights and reasonably sized fleets are fairly common (read 5-10 people), If you want targets you know where to get them, Solo combat although not common is still possible. You get super discounts on faction ships and IT's a good way to ram your faction standing through the roof. (you also tank your opposition standing but them's the breaks) |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
205
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Posted - 2011.10.20 02:44:00 -
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Well for the Gallente militia:
We always have a major fleet running (read 15-35 people). Plus multiple plexing and missioning fleets. Plus whatever your own corp has doing.
We have the highest number of FCs in any militia I believe or at the least the highest number of talented ones. And they are all very cool people.
Gallente Militia players are paranoid but we're very friendly to newbies when it comes to giving advice. Plenty of vets willing to pass on years of know how so you don't have to bust your balls as much they had to in the past.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=24604#post24604
Check my guide for further details. If you join up the mighty Frog Armada come look for me for advice if you need it.
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Dynast
Osirians Of Eve Curatores Veritatis Alliance
10
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Posted - 2011.10.20 04:21:00 -
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How do the various militias spread out across EU and US timezones? |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
205
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Posted - 2011.10.20 04:31:00 -
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Gallente is worse near DT almost no pilots on. It's very steady the rest of the day however. We have strong EU and US crowds. |
Super Chair
Hell's Revenge
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Posted - 2011.10.20 04:31:00 -
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Dynast wrote:How do the various militias spread out across EU and US timezones?
The Caldari militia has an inactive EU TZ, as far as fleets go. If you're not a mindless sheep that needs herded by an FC this shouldn't be an issue for you.
Gallente are active in the EU/US TZ, but seem to drop off in activity in the AU/NZ TZ
That's all I can really comment on the amarr/minie front, i keep hearing from some amarr friends that the minatar US TZ is weak. |
Dynast
Osirians Of Eve Curatores Veritatis Alliance
10
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Posted - 2011.10.20 04:33:00 -
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Thank you, both.
Do you know if standings losses from blowing up faction ships migrate across factions friendly to that faction, or are they limited to that faction? i.e. does Gallente FW lose amarr faction for blowing up caldari ships, or only for getting gallente faction bumped up? I ask because I'm thinking of going back to FW, but tanked the heck out of both my amarr and caldari faction previously and went to a lot of effort to get them up past -5, and really, really do not want to get both down that low again. |
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
3
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Posted - 2011.10.20 05:15:00 -
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If you join caldari, you will face:
- Frogs wanting 1vs1 while having their own logis, t3 and falcons on stand-by
- Lazy militia members who have severe issues of not having interest to travel 1j for a fight or to even have proper set of ships fitted and ready to go in their base (aka "I need to visit Jita, give me 40 minutes and I join" syndrome)
- Massive frog blobs whenever a gang of more than 5 Caldari are formed. This blob will then demand "good fights" when you do the reasonable thing and dock up. This is even more of an issue now that couple of corps returned to FW with 100+ members and entered an environment where, at best of times, they have to face up to 30 Caldari people (rest are isk farmers or spy alts).
Mekhana can smack all she likes but truth is that his side will titan bridge on small gangs and drop neutral capitals and logistics on field at the drop of a hat, so that's the limit of "good fights" one can get in FW.
And like everywhere else in Eve, good fights don't exist. Everyone wants a gank, wants to achieve it as brutally as possible, wants to do it without losses and then go boast about it on forums or at least in local. When FW was starting, perhaps it was casual. Nowadays it's as "serious internet spaceships" as everywhere else except we don't have any moongoo or sanctum farming to fight over.
Caldari have more people willing to go out solo and in small gangs and in general, these people are better pilots than the opposition (and less frequently supported by neutral alts) but there is little they can do about the "blob" on their own. |
Mehashi 'Kho
Fangs Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:33:00 -
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Damar Rocarion wrote:And like everywhere else in Eve, good fights don't exist. Derp *wipes drool from mouth*
Ignore the "propaganderp" machine. FW has been great! I'm only a rookie myself but there have been no end of people (not just us frogs) who have taken the time to give me advice, help get my head around tactics, fit ships i am unfamiliar with etc. It is an extremely rare night that i join a group of people and don't leave with a smile on my face or a lesson learned.
Most people are suprisingly casual and fun on comms, and although there will always be roleplaying turds who complain about others taking things seriously while inadvertantly taking it all too seriously themselves i'd be confident to say that is something eve-wide and not exclusive to fw.
My favourite size is around a 10-15man fleet, and these are the most comon engagements I have experienced. There is a lot of potential for solo roaming too, although due to my low skills I havent felt so confident trying that myself yet.
Are you worried about your standings for if / when you decide to leave FW? I only ask as I've seen a couple of people not realise that even with good standings if you are in militia the enemy navy are still going to get you in their high sec. If you have another income that isnt fw missions I would think the standings managable. Doing the fw missions does tank them pretty quick though.
In my own experience things are a little quiet from uptime to around 1800 evetime with just small scale encounters, then really pick up quickly from then as EU guys get back from work and some of the US guys are getting up and logging in. I cant speak for the AU timezones though. |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:40:00 -
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Dark Pangolin wrote:FW either currently has or has produced the best 10-50 man gang FCs and pilots. With very few exceptions I have never encountered anything in 0.0 or anywhere else that could go toe to toe with a fleet of FW vets. All we do is fight. All the time. ALL the time. FW is a meat grinder on am epic scale. Fighting over and over and over breeds the kinds of guys that win or quit. At it's best FW is a group of hard core impressive individual pilots and corps, at worst it's care bears in space. I would put a 20 man FW fleet of vets vs any random 40 man fleet. I have. And with very few exceptions I have not been disappointed.
My hat goes off to a few select low sec pie corps who consistently deliver impressive results and fight outnumbered (though not outgunned)
WTF you are talking about? |
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Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
40
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Posted - 2011.10.20 07:51:00 -
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Dark Pangolin wrote:With very few exceptions I have never encountered anything in 0.0 or anywhere else that could go toe to toe with a fleet of FW vets.
no troll, where do you live? and what times can we find this 50 man gang of yours? |
sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
7
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Posted - 2011.10.20 08:11:00 -
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As far as the Amarr go we pretty much have fleets all day. However dont x for them if you have to go buy a ship, alot of FW fights are formed in 10minutes and consist of
"X up for nano shield roam, BC and down."
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"20man Minnie gang on Auga gate Dal, X up"
If you join FW, then Day 1 pick a home, fill it with ships before even getting into the mix with fights. Have swap out mods in station and be perpared to hear how your fit sucks and quickly change it. It wont be personal it will just be an FC wanting everyone on the same page.
Speaking personally, I have in my home system 50 Combat ships fit, ammo and droned up and right click, make active, undockable. Its likely expected of everyone to have at lease a dozen ships ready.
I know the plexing gang FCs like people to have 5 or so Dessi/Frigs fit in their staging system at all times. This is of course on top of the normal couple of BCs armor and shield. Abaddons, and throw away cruisers.
FW is where everyone dies. One of the reasons for the insanely high LP rewards from mission is the turn over of ships. Its not unknown for someone to die and reship a number of times during a single fight.
Amarr themselves base out of Kamela, Houla, Kourmonan and Auga. All of them are lowsec Kamela has high sec entry points for easy access in bring in ships. Just be in FW before you do that thou, Shinny is Shinny and we do get tempted. |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
7
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Posted - 2011.10.20 11:06:00 -
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FW is dead.
All militias have done together only 1343 kill in a week, if month has 4 weeks it makes 5372 kills in month and average is 1343 / militia / month
then if we look at evekill stats from last month http://eve-kill.net/?a=top20
top alliance 1Goonswarm Federation5415 , so they kill more than all militias together.
top corporation 1Blue Republic3067, kills more than 2 militias together.
and funny fact is that corporation ranked 9CONCORD1425, kills more than one average militia.
Fw is dead. |
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
3
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Posted - 2011.10.20 11:52:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:and funny fact is that corporation ranked 9CONCORD1425, kills more than one average militia.
Fw is dead.
Pretty much. Perhaps if Froggies would stop pretending they are in for the "good fights" in enviroment where they have constant and overwhelming number superiority, along with blues with most pirate corps in the area, it would be less annoying to see them talk about their epeen here. |
Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
4
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Posted - 2011.10.20 12:03:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:FW is dead. All militias have done together only 1343 kill in a week, if month has 4 weeks it makes 5372 kills in month and average is 1343 / militia / month then if we look at evekill stats from last month http://eve-kill.net/?a=top20top alliance 1Goonswarm Federation5415 , so they kill more than all militias together. top corporation 1Blue Republic3067, kills more than 2 militias together. and funny fact is that corporation ranked 9CONCORD1425, kills more than one average militia. Fw is dead.
The militia stats don't include all the kills vs pirates and other low-sec dwellers. I'll admit that it's not as active as it used to be, but to call the Amarr/Minmatar zone dead is either misinformed or deliberately obtuse. |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
7
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Posted - 2011.10.20 12:19:00 -
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Zeerover wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:FW is dead. All militias have done together only 1343 kill in a week, if month has 4 weeks it makes 5372 kills in month and average is 1343 / militia / month then if we look at evekill stats from last month http://eve-kill.net/?a=top20top alliance 1Goonswarm Federation5415 , so they kill more than all militias together. top corporation 1Blue Republic3067, kills more than 2 militias together. and funny fact is that corporation ranked 9CONCORD1425, kills more than one average militia. Fw is dead. The militia stats don't include all the kills vs pirates and other low-sec dwellers. I'll admit that it's not as active as it used to be, but to call the Amarr/Minmatar zone dead is either misinformed or deliberately obtuse.
Those kills that are not counted on militia stats has nothing to do with FW, you can kill those without being in FW.
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Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
4
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Posted - 2011.10.20 12:43:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Zeerover wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:FW is dead. All militias have done together only 1343 kill in a week, if month has 4 weeks it makes 5372 kills in month and average is 1343 / militia / month then if we look at evekill stats from last month http://eve-kill.net/?a=top20top alliance 1Goonswarm Federation5415 , so they kill more than all militias together. top corporation 1Blue Republic3067, kills more than 2 militias together. and funny fact is that corporation ranked 9CONCORD1425, kills more than one average militia. Fw is dead. The militia stats don't include all the kills vs pirates and other low-sec dwellers. I'll admit that it's not as active as it used to be, but to call the Amarr/Minmatar zone dead is either misinformed or deliberately obtuse. Those kills that are not counted on militia stats has nothing to do with FW, you can kill those without being in FW.
Still hanging on to the misinformed or deliberately obtuse I see...
Those targets come to said systems because the militias live there, thus without FW those kills would not be there and hence those kills have everything to do with FW. How was Arzad before FW? Or Kamela, Kourmonen, Huola, Dal, Ardar and Eszur? This point can even be taken to the Cal/Gal zone, without the FW targets few pirates would want to be in low-sec. Apart from pipe systems and chokehold exits the FW zones are the only place with any activity in low-sec - and that's because the FW corps are there. |
Bengal Bob
Royal Order of Security Specialists
13
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Posted - 2011.10.20 12:56:00 -
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FW is dying if not dead. Too many people have left for other games or gone inactive whilst they wait for CCP to give FW some love. The majority of the rest are mission whores that are never seen in a pvp ship or even in the war zones.
I think Amarr have about 60 active pvpers, and the minnies have about 40. Nothing much changes on a day to day basis as we all know each others tactics too well.
WOT and Perpetuum both offer more interesting pvp and so people are becoming more and more invested in those games.
Personally I find solitaire more interesting than FW pvp atm.
But, chatting to people it seems that this is spread through a lot of areas in EVE atm. Everyone seems to be waiting to see if CCP does actually DO something rather than just trying to string us along.
I guess they are running out of time. |
Mehashi 'Kho
Fangs Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.20 12:57:00 -
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Hmm because it's totally reasonable to compare a massive organisation of 1000's to the 100's in fw... *sigh* FW isn't dead, it's just quieter than null and high, as you should expect from anything based in low sec. And does it really suprise you that with people from all sorts of eve corps and alliances ganking that concord would be so highly ranked?
Oh yeah FW is dead, bought to you by the daily mail and fox news |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
7
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Posted - 2011.10.20 13:07:00 -
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Mehashi 'Kho wrote:Hmm because it's totally reasonable to compare a massive organisation of 1000's to the 100's in fw... *sigh* FW isn't dead, it's just quieter than null and high, as you should expect from anything based in low sec. And does it really suprise you that with people from all sorts of eve corps and alliances ganking that concord would be so highly ranked? Oh yeah FW is dead, bought to you by the daily mail and fox news
Massive organisation ? goonswarm federation has 6095 members, all militias have together total 22831 members.
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Bad Messenger
draketrain
7
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Posted - 2011.10.20 13:14:00 -
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Zeerover wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Zeerover wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:FW is dead. All militias have done together only 1343 kill in a week, if month has 4 weeks it makes 5372 kills in month and average is 1343 / militia / month then if we look at evekill stats from last month http://eve-kill.net/?a=top20top alliance 1Goonswarm Federation5415 , so they kill more than all militias together. top corporation 1Blue Republic3067, kills more than 2 militias together. and funny fact is that corporation ranked 9CONCORD1425, kills more than one average militia. Fw is dead. The militia stats don't include all the kills vs pirates and other low-sec dwellers. I'll admit that it's not as active as it used to be, but to call the Amarr/Minmatar zone dead is either misinformed or deliberately obtuse. Those kills that are not counted on militia stats has nothing to do with FW, you can kill those without being in FW. Still hanging on to the misinformed or deliberately obtuse I see... Those targets come to said systems because the militias live there, thus without FW those kills would not be there and hence those kills have everything to do with FW. How was Arzad before FW? Or Kamela, Kourmonen, Huola, Dal, Ardar and Eszur? This point can even be taken to the Cal/Gal zone, without the FW targets few pirates would want to be in low-sec. Apart from pipe systems and chokehold exits the FW zones are the only place with any activity in low-sec - and that's because the FW corps are there.
On Gallente/Caldari area Old Man Star and Tama were well known pirate systems before militia, Blackrise has no history before FW because that region was made for FW.
Many pirates did not like FW at start because it was ruining their pirating possibilities and they moved away from fw area. |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
14
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Posted - 2011.10.20 13:16:00 -
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Stats for October: Name# MembersTotal KillsKills/Member Comments Blue Rep64930674.7 <---- (#1 in kills for month) Lives in high sec BOAE INC11010899.9 <---- (#20 in kills for month) Great Kill/Member ratio for decent sized corp. draketrain903664.1 <---- Former FW Corp. Have lost many members since leaving FW QCATS1225704.7 <----- FW corp. Have continued to grow slowly over time.
(This is a slow month for QCATS, we usually have 70 more kills at this time)
If FW is dead, draketrain is dead. +1 to BOAE, Awesome Kill/member ratio.
QCATS is averaging 30-50% more FW kills this month than it ever has (90-110 (final blows and not just in on kms) on FW WTs per week). FW is dead.
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Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
9
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Posted - 2011.10.20 13:28:00 -
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FW might be more of a zombie than truly dead, but my memories of FW in Minni militia was a good one. I just couldn't be bothered repairing a totally trashed faction standing, so next time I would probably avoid plexing.
I think the key is to not join the frogs, because you'll just be bored sitting on your thumb waiting to catch the squids. If you become a squid, you'll probably be frustrated that you have a billion people in Militia chat, and they are all too busy making ISK to pew pew.
So join the blackamoors or the godbotherers. Sure, you probably now have to deal with PL in Amamake, or BANE blobbing occasionally, but you will likely get better fights on either side. I can't talk of the Amarr FCs but the minnie guys are pretty competent, you'll get small gang fights regularly, and get your arse blobbed heavily weekly, but thats EVE anyway.
Plus, come the new PI nerf, FW will be a great place to buy the Custom Office BPC's, and you will make serious bank on this.
As for pimezones, Amarr's PIE Inc. has a core of AU TZ players; the minnie militia used to have a fair few AU players, but not sure anymore. |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
7
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Posted - 2011.10.20 13:32:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Stats for October: Name# MembersTotal KillsKills/Member Comments Blue Rep64930674.7 <---- (#1 in kills for month) Lives in high sec BOAE INC11010899.9 <---- (#20 in kills for month) Great Kill/Member ratio for decent sized corp. draketrain903664.1 <---- Former FW Corp. Have lost many members since leaving FW QCATS1225704.7 <----- FW corp. Have continued to grow slowly over time.
(This is a slow month for QCATS, we usually have 70 more kills at this time)
If FW is dead, draketrain is dead. +1 to BOAE, Awesome Kill/member ratio.
QCATS is averaging 30-50% more FW kills this month than it ever has (90-110 (final blows and not just in on kms) on FW WTs per week). FW is dead.
Edit: What we're going to hear next is that the overall numbers of FW corps is nothing compared to the largest alliance in the game and this is definitely true. The reason you as an individual should get into FW, however, is that you're going to get lots of pvp - as much or more than draketrain (and "elite" pvp corp in null sec nowadays that is slowly dieing off in numbers) without having to pay tribute to your alliance overlords.
Have fun, get kills, be your own boss. What more could you ask for?
Draketrain member count has dropped yes, but our current focus is not to expand our corporation, it is to do co-operation with certain corporations and alliances and that has been very good strategy.
People want to do so much different things , care bearing, industry, 0.0 sov etc... but we try to organize pvp operations were everyone can participate if they have time from their own business.
example: http://draketrain.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10795869
As you can see there is many names from militia on our common operation, they are not draketrain but they still participate same ops.
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Markius TheShed
Murientor Tribe
1
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Posted - 2011.10.20 13:45:00 -
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Damar Rocarion wrote:
Pretty much. Perhaps if Froggies would stop pretending they are in for the "good fights" in enviroment where they have constant and overwhelming number superiority, along with blues with most pirate corps in the area, it would be less annoying to see them talk about their epeen here.
I wish Damar would stop trying to come across as the only person in FW who gives fair fights and EVERYONE else is doing it wrong except him.
Most of the tactics that you have complain about in this thread (& regularly) you have used on me at one time or another your not part of the solution your part of the problem.
But back to the OP with pretty much the removal of High Sec war dec's from now on FW is the best way of getting quick and cheap PVP. |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
14
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Posted - 2011.10.20 14:12:00 -
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Don't give in to the "null sec is more active" lie. FW low sec has the most active pvp in the game. Smaller sized fleets, but many more, engagements. More kills/system than 90% of null sec.
If you want to roam with 60 to 500 man "open ocean" fleets, head to null sec and get bored to tears. If you want lots of smaller scale pvp, 1 to 20 players, get into FW.
Are you ADHD? Head to FW. |
Bengal Bob
Royal Order of Security Specialists
13
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Posted - 2011.10.20 14:18:00 -
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FW may not be dead, but is is definitely dying - at least on the minnie/ammarr front. I can't speak for the others, they might be very lucky.
October 2009 October 2010 October 2011
Most of these fights are no longer quality either, just unlucky people being ganked/station campers or people being bored and suiciding.
You can also see the general militia has died over time.
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Bad Messenger
draketrain
7
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Posted - 2011.10.20 15:27:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Don't give in to the "null sec is more active" lie. FW low sec has the most active pvp in the game. Smaller sized fleets, but many more, engagements. More kills/system than 90% of null sec.
If you want to roam with 60 to 500 man "open ocean" fleets, head to null sec and get bored to tears. If you want lots of smaller scale pvp, 1 to 20 players, get into FW.
Are you ADHD? Head to FW.
I did not say that 0.0 is more active, we do gank people in lowsec too. But militia has nothing to offer really, if we join militia no one will fight against us anyway in there. And last time i was in militia certain bugs prevented some tactics totally.
There is no reason to be in militia with your main, keep alt in to get missions, that is enough.
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Dirk Smacker
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2011.10.20 15:29:00 -
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Zeerover wrote:
The militia stats don't include all the kills vs pirates and other low-sec dwellers. I'll admit that it's not as active as it used to be, but to call the Amarr/Minmatar zone dead is either misinformed or deliberately obtuse.
Actually, they do count every kill a militia member participates in, even when they blow up their own cyno.
However, the way Bad Messenger presented his argument was dishonest. FW is still a good place to get a lot of PvP and a great opportunity to live in low sec. The roughly 300 active players per side are not going to compete with alliances that have 1000+ members getting kills from large fleet battles and POS modules. |
Dirk Smacker
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2011.10.20 15:33:00 -
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Mehashi 'Kho wrote:Oh yeah FW is dead, bought to you by the daily mail and fox news You are a douchebag for bringing politics into a gaming forum.
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Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
3
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Posted - 2011.10.20 15:41:00 -
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Markius TheShed wrote:I wish Damar would stop trying to come across as the only person in FW who gives fair fights and EVERYONE else is doing it wrong except him.
Not really but I dont pretend something is a good fight when it was just a gank or that if I would go against 5 guys with 20, I expect them to stick around and fight (like frogs most of the time suggest people should do).
Bad Messenger wrote:I did not say that 0.0 is more active, we do gank people in lowsec too. But militia has nothing to offer really, if we join militia no one will fight against us anyway in there. And last time i was in militia certain bugs prevented some tactics totally.
Froggies just want to forget it and erase the history, like everything else which does not go according to their plans. After all, "history according to morons like X Gal" is nothing but gallente triumph after another and low-sec dd and other humiliations have never occurred. |
Lugalzagezi666
20
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Posted - 2011.10.20 15:49:00 -
[42] - Quote
Bengal Bob wrote:FW may not be dead, but is is definitely dying - at least on the minnie/ammarr front. I can't speak for the others, they might be very lucky. October 2009October 2010October 2011Most of these fights are no longer quality either, just unlucky people being ganked/station campers or people being bored and suiciding. You can also see the general militia has died over time.
This.
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Mehashi 'Kho
Fangs Of The Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.10.20 16:43:00 -
[43] - Quote
Dirk Smacker wrote:Mehashi 'Kho wrote:Oh yeah FW is dead, bought to you by the daily mail and fox news You are a douchebag for bringing politics into a gaming forum. I didn't, it was a reference to sensationalist and overdramatic presentation. I don't care for politics. |
X Gallentius
Quantum Cats Syndicate
14
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Posted - 2011.10.20 16:57:00 -
[44] - Quote
Bad Messenger wrote: I did not say that 0.0 is more active, we do gank people in lowsec too. But militia has nothing to offer really, if we join militia no one will fight against us anyway in there. And last time i was in militia certain bugs prevented some tactics totally.
There is no reason to be in militia with your main, keep alt in to get missions, that is enough.
So FW is no worse for pvp than anywhere else in Eve?
Reason No. 4 to join FW: You can make Damar cry on the forums. /thread
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Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
10
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Posted - 2011.10.20 17:03:00 -
[45] - Quote
Bengal Bob wrote:FW may not be dead, but is is definitely dying - at least on the minnie/ammarr front. I can't speak for the others, they might be very lucky. October 2009October 2010October 2011Most of these fights are no longer quality either, just unlucky people being ganked/station campers or people being bored and suiciding. You can also see the general militia has died over time.
Jesus Bob, just catching up on this thread and all I see is you bitching. Cmon man. When was the last time I saw you roaming for a fight?...?....2 months ago, maybe 3? Last time I saw you was that 50 man Mael gang to conquer ezz.
Yes, FLEET WARFARE in FW on the amarr minnie side has started to mimic the cal/gal side (no surprise) but solo and small gang is still alive and well, and YOU of all people should know.
It wasn't too long ago that I introduced you to my rail DD when you were thinking you were hot sh*t in your rff. you lost, we laughed, good times. Same when you spanked me in your rifter. FW is still full of good times if you make it that way.
As far a a pitch goes, it is really difficult to "pitch" something like FW. Best to just chat someone up about, have them tell you what they have done in the past and what they are doing now. I LOVE FW, absolutely adore it. Anyone reading this PLEASE feel free to convo me when I am online. I will tell you all about it.
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Garbad theWeak
17
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Posted - 2011.10.20 17:20:00 -
[46] - Quote
Thanks for the responses. I think I'm gonna give it a shot.
- Which faction would you recommend? I prefer small gang (4-12) but am confident soloing or bearhunting. Activity in early US prime time is the most important factor, both for my and my opponents. I lean gallente (fighting the noob zerg) or matar (lore), but I'd rather play for a small, cohesive group even if outnumbered.
- Any recommendations on corps that might consider accepting a pvp vet with proven skill/loyalty but who is new to FW?
- should I try to rebuild my terrible rep or just buy an alt? (Also, anyone selling a good alt :D) |
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
3
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Posted - 2011.10.20 17:26:00 -
[47] - Quote
Garbad theWeak wrote:I lean gallente (fighting the noob zerg) or matar (lore), but I'd rather play for a small, cohesive group even if outnumbered.
What Zerg? Both Caldari and Amarr are outnumbered, especially in us tz. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
5
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Posted - 2011.10.20 18:48:00 -
[48] - Quote
I would recommend Caldari, they are outnumbered in USTZ, especially late. They do tend to get blobbed quite a bit , but for a vet getting blobbed by a bunch of noobs can be a good thing ;) For small gang I see them out quite often in 10 man fleets, but rarely anything smaller. I hope you enjoy it...i sure do...done just about everything else in eve and FW is the best place for small gang pew with out question. Enjoy.
Garbad theWeak wrote:Thanks for the responses. I think I'm gonna give it a shot.
- Which faction would you recommend? I prefer small gang (4-12) but am confident soloing or bearhunting. Activity in early US prime time is the most important factor, both for my and my opponents. I lean gallente (fighting the noob zerg) or matar (lore), but I'd rather play for a small, cohesive group even if outnumbered.
- Any recommendations on corps that might consider accepting a pvp vet with proven skill/loyalty but who is new to FW?
- should I try to rebuild my terrible rep or just buy an alt? (Also, anyone selling a good alt :D)
Is sexy time? |
Dark Pangolin
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
11
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Posted - 2011.10.20 19:41:00 -
[49] - Quote
Princess Nexxala wrote:I would recommend Caldari, they are outnumbered in USTZ, especially late. They do tend to get blobbed quite a bit , but for a vet getting blobbed by a bunch of noobs can be a good thing ;) For small gang I see them out quite often in 10 man fleets, but rarely anything smaller. I hope you enjoy it...i sure do...done just about everything else in eve and FW is the best place for small gang pew with out question. Enjoy. Garbad theWeak wrote:Thanks for the responses. I think I'm gonna give it a shot.
- Which faction would you recommend? I prefer small gang (4-12) but am confident soloing or bearhunting. Activity in early US prime time is the most important factor, both for my and my opponents. I lean gallente (fighting the noob zerg) or matar (lore), but I'd rather play for a small, cohesive group even if outnumbered.
- Any recommendations on corps that might consider accepting a pvp vet with proven skill/loyalty but who is new to FW?
- should I try to rebuild my terrible rep or just buy an alt? (Also, anyone selling a good alt :D)
It's only good if you can get the vets to log on :) mostly it's a lot of smacking in local and poor intel on fleet #s |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
7
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Posted - 2011.10.20 21:52:00 -
[50] - Quote
X Gallentius wrote:Bad Messenger wrote: I did not say that 0.0 is more active, we do gank people in lowsec too. But militia has nothing to offer really, if we join militia no one will fight against us anyway in there. And last time i was in militia certain bugs prevented some tactics totally.
There is no reason to be in militia with your main, keep alt in to get missions, that is enough.
So FW is no worse for pvp than anywhere else in Eve? Reason No. 4 to join FW: You can make Damar cry on the forums. /thread
Just opposite, FW is worst PVP in EVE.
It is full of people who thinks they know something about PVP but not many of them really do.
So if you are new player and want to learn to pvp FW is not right place for it, there is no one who can or will really teach something. If you are lucky you might get in some corp who know something but usually 'spy' problem prevents joining those corps.
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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
171
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Posted - 2011.10.20 23:53:00 -
[51] - Quote
its a trap |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
2
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Posted - 2011.10.21 10:00:00 -
[52] - Quote
Damar Rocarion wrote:Garbad theWeak wrote:I lean gallente (fighting the noob zerg) or matar (lore), but I'd rather play for a small, cohesive group even if outnumbered. What Zerg? Both Caldari and Amarr are outnumbered, especially in us tz.
Wrong, the Minmatar US (and I believe EU as well) timezone is the weakest it has ever been.
For Minmatar USTZ - The Latenite Group is down to maybe 3-5 active players on any given day. - AUTOZ has maybe 5-10 active players, and we've been ignoring the Amarr mostly to spar with Pandemic Legion. - What other major USTZ Minmatar groups are there? Pretty much none, except for Valkyr Industries (part of the Latenite Group) who come on sporadically.
We pretty much can't muster more than 10 people to fight the Amarr during Minmatar USTZ and their usual fleets (Wolfsbrigade mostly) generally are 15+. vOv
At least, thats the way it seems to me lately.
WTF happened to the days of Gentlemanly Sparring where we'd end up getting 3-4 good rounds of 15+ man fleet combat EVERY NIGHT? )': |
Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
3
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Posted - 2011.10.21 10:23:00 -
[53] - Quote
Vordak Kallager wrote:WTF happened to the days of Gentlemanly Sparring where we'd end up getting 3-4 good rounds of 15+ man fleet combat EVERY NIGHT? )':
FW turned into serious internet spaceships
Well, back in the day we hoped to bring it into attention that FW was in dire need of fixing but they did not listen. Like they never listened to anyone who actually participated in FW when they wanted suggestions for it... |
Bengal Bob
Royal Order of Security Specialists
14
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Posted - 2011.10.21 11:29:00 -
[54] - Quote
Karl Planck wrote:Bengal Bob wrote:FW may not be dead, but is is definitely dying - at least on the minnie/ammarr front. I can't speak for the others, they might be very lucky. October 2009October 2010October 2011Most of these fights are no longer quality either, just unlucky people being ganked/station campers or people being bored and suiciding. You can also see the general militia has died over time. Jesus Bob, just catching up on this thread and all I see is you bitching. Cmon man. When was the last time I saw you roaming for a fight?...?....2 months ago, maybe 3? Last time I saw you was that 50 man Mael gang to conquer ezz. Yes, FLEET WARFARE in FW on the amarr minnie side has started to mimic the cal/gal side (no surprise) but solo and small gang is still alive and well, and YOU of all people should know. It wasn't too long ago that I introduced you to my rail DD when you were thinking you were hot sh*t in your rff. you lost, we laughed, good times. Same when you spanked me in your rifter. FW is still full of good times if you make it that way.
I am bitter vetting nowadays, it seems I can frig roam for 4-6hours and still find nothing. I did take a month off in Oz, but still roam now I am back. Solo is super hard to find and fleet fights are mostly boring if in bs. I have moved away from the huola cluster, as it is largely station games. I will come find you then for some fun on the weekend :) |
Dirk Smacker
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
7
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Posted - 2011.10.21 14:37:00 -
[55] - Quote
Bad Messenger wrote: So if you are new player and want to learn to pvp FW is not right place for it, there is no one who can or will really teach something.
The part in bold is just plain untrue. There are plenty of people around willing to train. |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
206
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Posted - 2011.10.21 14:57:00 -
[56] - Quote
It is untrue in fact. I get so many convos from people asking me to learn about FW or just ask general militia questions and I love to answer them. There's more people here that do the same. All this knowledge is passed from the old generation to the new generation of militia pilots.
When I was fresh meat in the militia, people took me under their wing and taught me everything I know today. I still hang out with these people and EVE truly is EVE for me today because of those people. |
Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
5
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Posted - 2011.10.21 15:25:00 -
[57] - Quote
Dirk Smacker wrote:Bad Messenger wrote: So if you are new player and want to learn to pvp FW is not right place for it, there is no one who can or will really teach something.
The part in bold is just plain untrue. There are plenty of people around willing to train.
Of course it's untrue, like most of his bittervet statements in this thread have been. Bad Messenger is just trying to live up to his character name - being a bad messenger. |
Cearain
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
67
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Posted - 2011.10.21 16:09:00 -
[58] - Quote
Lugalzagezi666 wrote:Bengal Bob wrote:FW may not be dead, but is is definitely dying - at least on the minnie/ammarr front. I can't speak for the others, they might be very lucky. October 2009October 2010October 2011Most of these fights are no longer quality either, just unlucky people being ganked/station campers or people being bored and suiciding. You can also see the general militia has died over time. This.
If I recall there was a general decrease in pvp since dominion. (insurance nerf? Null sec changes? we can all speculate) So I wonder how this compares to the general decrease in pvp in eve.
Just considering the decrease in active players in eve as a whole I'm not sure fw is doing worse than other ways to get pvp.
It might be, I'm just not sure.
Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
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Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
3
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Posted - 2011.10.21 16:32:00 -
[59] - Quote
Dirk Smacker wrote:The part in bold is just plain untrue. There are plenty of people around willing to train.
Now, if there only would be enough people willing to learn... (actually serious here)
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Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
26
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Posted - 2011.10.21 16:47:00 -
[60] - Quote
Good day:
I was in Minmatar faction warfare from October 2010 to September 2011 (leaving to join The Tuskers, and get into pure piracy).
I concur with Bengal Bob (one of Minmatar faction warfare's finest solo pilots, who also does fleet up) and Vordak Kallager (who has such positive notoriety -- if there is such a thing -- that you have people in Minmatar FW that want to have his children) that Minmatar vs. Amarr (and sometimes Caldari) FW has declined to a large degree.
The number of solo pilots on each side declined leaving less and less targets. Some of the corps on both sides would take advantage of that and use what appeared to be solo (bait) and then land on the solo pilot with such overwhelming numbers (or ship class advantage) that it was mind numbing.
So solo pilots stuck to fighting absolute known solo counter parts unless you felt comfortable your target might not be bait; and hoped you were correct.
On the fleeting side, there are a number of extremely competent fleet commanders. But due to RL issues (which may also have included a degree of burn out with being an FC -- a very hard, and often under appreciated job -- as well as frustration with Eve), the FC's were not on with any consistent basis (i.e. you can count on a fleet being run by so and so every x -- i.e. day, week, month, day of week, time, etc.).
And some corporations do not run mixed militia fleets; which meant that the corp in question has good FC's and they run on some consistency, if you were not in their corp, tough.
So on the Minmatar side, fleets tended to be small; and (at least when I was in Minmatar FW), frigate to cruiser in size often running with no shiny ships. From time to time (it became rare as time went on), there would be a BC fleet.
On the Amarr side, they typically ran fleets every single day; and they were relatively consistent on the times of day (which did help if you liked to solo since you had a general idea when a large Amarr fleet was out and about even if you didn't watch intel channels like a hawk).
The Amarr fleets tended to have logi whether it be a single neutral alt running in a scimitar or multiple guardians. They would often run so much logi that the Minmatar could not counter the fleets and would therefore station spin (and as Bengal Bob pointed out, only the unfortunate who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time would be ganked -- and the Amarr would congratulation themselves on how great they are at piloting).
When they would not run medium to large logi gangs, they would overship (compared to what the MInmatar was flying) bringing out multiple Machariels, Tengu's, Cynabals, and other shiny ships.
You would have Mystical Might's Corporation station camping Auga 3rd (and for a while Vard top station) for hours on end with instant locking Machariels, Tengus, or Cynabals blowing up ships and pods alike -- again often smacking in local how great they are as pilots and how terrible it is to be a Minmatar faction warrior.
When Mystical Might and his corp mates were not station camping, they would often chase around solo pilots who were in much lesser classed ships smacking them in local as to why they don't want to 1v1.
There are other issues as well.
All of them led me to looking at getting out of FW rather than crossing FW sides. For me, I picked The Tuskers who have an extremely good track record of being family oriented, professional, and (from a pure pirate's point of view) honorable.
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/ * http://evepiratelife.com/ |
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Garbad theWeak
17
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Posted - 2011.10.21 17:15:00 -
[61] - Quote
Pretty discouraging =/ |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous
4
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Posted - 2011.10.21 20:44:00 -
[62] - Quote
Mara Abraham wrote:Good day:
I was in Minmatar faction warfare from October 2010 to September 2011 (leaving to join The Tuskers, and get into pure piracy).
I concur with Bengal Bob (one of Minmatar faction warfare's finest solo pilots, who also does fleet up) and Vordak Kallager (who has such positive notoriety -- if there is such a thing -- that you have people in Minmatar FW that want to have his children) that Minmatar vs. Amarr (and sometimes Caldari) FW has declined to a large degree.
Ahahaha, I lulz'd. o/ Mara |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
7
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Posted - 2011.10.23 05:06:00 -
[63] - Quote
Dirk Smacker wrote:Bad Messenger wrote: So if you are new player and want to learn to pvp FW is not right place for it, there is no one who can or will really teach something.
The part in bold is just plain untrue. There are plenty of people around willing to train.
Willing yes, but can they? is the question.
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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
12
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Posted - 2011.10.23 07:54:00 -
[64] - Quote
Bad Messenger wrote:Dirk Smacker wrote:Bad Messenger wrote: So if you are new player and want to learn to pvp FW is not right place for it, there is no one who can or will really teach something.
The part in bold is just plain untrue. There are plenty of people around willing to train. Willing yes, but can they? is the question.
Ur yes. W-BR has a training programm for corpies, Sign up today and get a free horse.
- Warning ******* up because you're a noob will not shield you from trolls
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Damar Rocarion
Nasranite Watch
3
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Posted - 2011.10.24 12:48:00 -
[65] - Quote
Mara Abraham wrote:All of them led me to looking at getting out of FW rather than crossing FW sides. For me, I picked The Tuskers who have an extremely good track record of being family oriented, professional, and (from a pure pirate's point of view) honorable.
Perhaps you ought to educate your members. Happened today:
I am taking an fw plex. It's capped and I move on from Tama towards other low-sec systems (having uncontested system and removing my reason for sitting in Tama). When i'm in next system someone wants to convo me and seeing from info I see it's some two-penny pirate. I reject convo. Then I get this evemail:
***** From: Shtang Lord Sent: 2011.10.24 12:25 To: Damar Rocarion,
off u run back to high sec. scared of another dramiel
So is it standard policy for your corporation to throw a tantrum when someone does not open a convo with your guys. And do you automatically label it as "running away", especially when I had been with the same dude in same system for almost 20 minutes and he didnt express any ntention of attacking me while there?
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Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
30
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Posted - 2011.10.24 13:21:00 -
[66] - Quote
Good day, Damar Rocarion:
And your post has what to do with Factional Warfare?
And am I Shtang Lord or Mara Abraham?
I'm just a newbie Tusker only responsible for my own actions. Direct any questions about policy and procedure to the directors.
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/ * http://evepiratelife.com/ |
Kain De'Stroi
Spiritus Draconis
0
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Posted - 2011.10.24 17:31:00 -
[67] - Quote
Garbad theWeak wrote:Pretty discouraging =/
dont get fooled. Fw may not be perfect but think about the options, what else is there? 0.0 you know whats that like. blobbish and hard to grow your personal pvp skills. Pirate : as a pirate its rare that you get any good fights, most of the time its either ganking newbs ot run and hide from the angry bear blob. I get more action/day in FW than i ever got as a pirate outside of FW. I highly recommend it.
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Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
30
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Posted - 2011.10.24 19:32:00 -
[68] - Quote
Good day:
The Tuskers get good fights on a regular basis; and we typically don't run from blobs.
Yesterday our nine person gang faced nineteen (some from your corp), and took out a HAC and an interceptor.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10875510 is the battle report.
We left field when one of our members had major Internet problems (and lost their Drake due to it).
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/ * http://evepiratelife.com/ |
Kain De'Stroi
Spiritus Draconis
0
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Posted - 2011.10.24 20:45:00 -
[69] - Quote
Mara Abraham wrote:Good day: The Tuskers get good fights on a regular basis; and we typically don't run from blobs. Yesterday our nine person gang faced nineteen (some from your corp), and took out a HAC and an interceptor. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10875510 is the battle report. We left field when one of our members had major Internet problems (and lost their Drake due to it). Thank you.
you guys are very far from beeing the average pirate corp. Gf and well done o7 |
Dynast
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
14
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Posted - 2011.10.24 21:13:00 -
[70] - Quote
Garbad theWeak wrote:Pretty discouraging =/ If you want a sales pitch, here's mine:
Joined THE4 a few days ago, have gotten several small fleet engagements (5-10 man, in my book) most days and have gotten a good chunk of solo pvp as well (and have the losses to prove it). As a FW pilot I have been able to initiate fights on gate in frigate and destroyer hulls without getting blasted by gate guns. I have used FW plexes to provoke or at least encourage fights and to shield myself from ship classes I could not credibly handle.
Also, I have not been hotdropped by faggots with carriers or supercarriers, have not been titan bridged on, and have not been gayed by a bubble camp and consequently podded. Coming from null sec, this is rather nice as those were par for the course trying to solo in providence. |
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Garbad theWeak
17
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:21:00 -
[71] - Quote
So, anyone interested in recruiting me?
WHAT I OFFER:
- experienced in pvp (~1100 kills, 95%+ efficiency) - loyal and committed (2 corps in 4 years) - financially self sufficient, but willing to pve for fun sometimes - Decent SP char (~35kk, all combat oriented almost all sub BS)
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR:
- a FW corp, any faction is fine (I will work on my standings as needed to get in) - active, skilled, and focused on small gang pvp and 1v1 - new to FW, but experienced in 0.0 - can start ASAP
Thanks. |
Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
12
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:32:00 -
[72] - Quote
Garbad theWeak wrote:So, anyone interested in recruiting me?
WHAT I OFFER:
- experienced in pvp (~1100 kills, 95%+ efficiency) - loyal and committed (2 corps in 4 years) - financially self sufficient, but willing to pve for fun sometimes - Decent SP char (~35kk, all combat oriented almost all sub BS)
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR:
- a FW corp, any faction is fine (I will work on my standings as needed to get in) - active, skilled, and focused on small gang pvp and 1v1 - new to FW, but experienced in 0.0 - can start ASAP
Thanks.
You need to go the other way otherwise you will be pissed you moved all your assets. First, find the faction your interested in. If your going small gang/solo i would advise the matar/amarr side, they are more prone to small engagements for various reasons. If you RP or if you opposed to it that will also knock out some corps. You will be left with only a handful of corps. A lot of the corps' personalities vary pretty widely, so imo its going to be personal preference with the ppl.
-You don't need to work on standings if your set on isk, but choosing a side will depend on your tz and what you want (be the bigger group or the smaller)
- A lot of the major corps are active, pick a faction and you will get a list of prospectives here most likely.
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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Retribution
5
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:45:00 -
[73] - Quote
Garbad theWeak wrote:So, anyone interested in recruiting me?
WHAT I OFFER:
- experienced in pvp (~1100 kills, 95%+ efficiency) - loyal and committed (2 corps in 4 years) - financially self sufficient, but willing to pve for fun sometimes - Decent SP char (~35kk, all combat oriented almost all sub BS)
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR:
- a FW corp, any faction is fine (I will work on my standings as needed to get in) - active, skilled, and focused on small gang pvp and 1v1 - new to FW, but experienced in 0.0 - can start ASAP
Thanks. Join the amarrian retribution the only true side on FW is amarr side. dont care about kb, fly as much faction as you want.
- new to FW, but experienced in 0.0 90% of amarr militia corps do not fight with 0.0 tactics. as our ships are far supurior, we dont bother with nano. |
Karl Planck
Labyrinth Obtaining Chaotic Kangaroos
12
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Posted - 2011.10.25 18:48:00 -
[74] - Quote
Flyinghotpocket wrote:Garbad theWeak wrote:So, anyone interested in recruiting me?
WHAT I OFFER:
- experienced in pvp (~1100 kills, 95%+ efficiency) - loyal and committed (2 corps in 4 years) - financially self sufficient, but willing to pve for fun sometimes - Decent SP char (~35kk, all combat oriented almost all sub BS)
WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR:
- a FW corp, any faction is fine (I will work on my standings as needed to get in) - active, skilled, and focused on small gang pvp and 1v1 - new to FW, but experienced in 0.0 - can start ASAP
Thanks. Join the amarrian retribution the only true side on FW is amarr side. dont care about kb, fly as much faction as you want. - new to FW, but experienced in 0.0 90% of amarr militia corps do not fight with 0.0 tactics. as our ships are far supurior, we dont bother with nano.
hotpocket and gang just made AR go party time around the clock.
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Flyinghotpocket
Amarrian Retribution
5
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Posted - 2011.10.25 21:57:00 -
[75] - Quote
Karl Planck wrote: hotpocket and gang just made AR go party time around the clock. Party every day in amarr its all we do!!!! |
Mara Abraham
The Tuskers
31
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Posted - 2011.10.26 02:47:00 -
[76] - Quote
Good Day, Garbad theWeak;
For Minmatar, check with Autocannon's Anonymous, Ka Pow, and R.O.S.S. I believe they have a reasonable strong presense in the U.S. TZ.
====
On the Amarr side, while I cannot comment on time zones, Amarrian Retribution, PIE, and some others I cannot recall at the moment are good ones.
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
* http://www.factionalwarfare.info/ * http://evepiratelife.com/ |
jasper beamsalot
Ice Fire Warriors
0
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Posted - 2011.10.26 05:07:00 -
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Mara Abraham wrote:Good Day, Garbad theWeak;
For Minmatar, check with Autocannon's Anonymous, Ka Pow, and R.O.S.S. I believe they have a reasonable strong presense in the U.S. TZ.
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On the Amarr side, while I cannot comment on time zones, Amarrian Retribution, PIE, and some others I cannot recall at the moment are good ones.
Thank you.
Confirming that mara knows nothing about anything FW related, and if you want to have a hope in hell of being in any way relavent in FW, never act on advise given by said person. You will more likey end up war deced for doing something dumb than doing anything constuctive when following maras advise.
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Mara Abraham
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Good day, jasper beamsalot:
Are you still emo because I will not have any of your children?
Do your words mean anything to anyone because you are still foaming at the mouth?
Thank you.
--- Mara Abraham
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