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ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:36:00 -
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I remember the quote about gamers being more attracted to flawed games with cool features rather than games that work predictably and only deploy new features when they have been fully developed and tested.
It appears that you still believe this. Oh well.
My suggestion? Forget the Winter expansion and fix the problems that the last few updates have caused. |
Jonas Glim
Alien Ship Builders Caedite Eos
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:37:00 -
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My sympathys go out to those losing their jobs, it's a great shame that the man largely responsible for causing this "refocusing" won't be doing the honourable thing and resigning. |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics BRABODEN
280
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:37:00 -
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Unexpectedly great news on the future of Eve by CCP. But it's hard to celebrate when people lose jobs. When Eve's success grows from the renewed focus, maybe you can rehire them - to work on Eve. |
Riflin' Betty
Perfunctory
17
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:41:00 -
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I think CCP just learned the hard way what the price of disrespecting your customers can be.
I'd have wished for all of you guys to have come to your sense on your own, but your overwhelming arrogance in the face of dedicated customers blinded you to the obvious.
We are not your cash cow.
We will do what we do rather than say.
And we will not be used.
I hope this lesson learned in the most painful way, will carry you on to better future as a more healthy company. Though you have a long way to go still. Let's just hope it's for the best, and that you didn't slice your own bellies with the sword of customer contempt.
-Helicity Boson. |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics BRABODEN
280
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:43:00 -
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By the way, I still can't shake the nibbling notion that the Incarna establishments delay and WoD's indefinite postponement has a lot to do with Carbon running like a snail's turd when there's five other characters in the room - let alone dozens or hundreds. |
Jolteon Taylor
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:43:00 -
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Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.
I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep her job. I do enjoy following her tweets \o/ |
Jimtom
Council Of Internal War The Paganism Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:44:00 -
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Sad news about job loses hope all who are affected find employment speedily, CCPers are the greatest |
Barakkus
848
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:45:00 -
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Sir HappyPants wrote:Here's hoping that any and all employment challenged CCPers find a job quickly and without too much hardship on themselves and their family.
Good luck.
::raises a pint::
It won't take too much effort to find SOMETHING, only problem is most programming jobs out there are contract only right now. I've been looking and the only crap I get is calls from recruiters looking for people for contract work. Fortunately, I have seniority and job security at the place I work now, so I can sit back and wait until I find a permanent full time position.
I would venture a guess those laid off with programming skills will probably find work within a few weeks, even though it's probably going to be temporary work. |
Whyumadtho
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:45:00 -
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Quote:This will enable us to accelerate timeframes for new features and increase our ability to respond to community needs.
Explain to me how cutting 20% of your staff will accelerate anything. |
Sir HappyPants
Phantom Squad Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:45:00 -
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Jolteon Taylor wrote:Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.
I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep his job. I do enjoy following his tweets \o/
pssst... Fallout is of the female stock. Member of the #TweetFleet@thisurlnotfound |
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Jolteon Taylor
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:47:00 -
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Sir HappyPants wrote:Jolteon Taylor wrote:Great news for EVEs future, although such a shame it had to happen like this.
I do hope CCP_FallOut gets to keep his job. I do enjoy following his tweets \o/ pssst... Fallout is of the female stock. oh twitsticks, I failed. I had noticed that, but for some reason i by impulse typed 'his' D:
but I fixed it now :D |
Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:47:00 -
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I think CCP has made the right decision. My heart goes out to those who will lose their jobs though. |
Smoking Blunts
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:48:00 -
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oh well shouldnt have ****** off so many players by putting your heads up yours arses hoping your own ill found reasons were right, even though they were pointed out to you as wrong time and time again.
explains the change in gm stance on war dec's at least, less staff = less time for customer service
CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
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Kabaos
Capital Group Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:50:00 -
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OMG u really stupid's?
When to you say it's hard to do everything at once (Dust ,WOD ) you continue to develop the project..
You need to concentrate your work on Dust ..When dust will completed after that start WOD..
You haven't enough money to support Dust,EVE and fuc..ng WOD |
Chris Stormrider
IDEON ANDRON HELL4S
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:50:00 -
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Whyumadtho wrote:Explain to me how cutting 20% of your staff will accelerate anything.
^^ this
Also, to all the people saying they understand, it may be that the refocus to EVE and Fis is good but the ends do not justify the means. I'm still not convinced they know what they're doing...
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
646
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:54:00 -
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ACY GTMI wrote:I remember the quote about gamers being more attracted to flawed games with cool features rather than games that work predictably and only deploy new features when they have been fully developed and tested.
It appears that you still believe this. Oh well.
My suggestion? Forget the Winter expansion and fix the problems that the last few updates have caused.
Er, the Winter expansion is exactly about fixing problems. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:54:00 -
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Tough decisions and consequences.
EVE isn't a "Golden Goose". We're players, consumers and people. At the end of the day, this comes back to decisions made months and months ago.
I was really excited to see what would happen in WOD after the news article written up. It sounded freaking awesome for an MMO. I hope this doesn't get pushed back too far - and I hope DUST's knock out success will find CCP looking to re-establish getting WOD out there sooner than later and maybe getting some of those great designers back on deck.
I wish CCP the best on getting these next projects successfully launched and back on track for everyone.
NOSTRO AURUM NON EST AURUM VULGI |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
646
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:55:00 -
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Whyumadtho wrote:Quote:This will enable us to accelerate timeframes for new features and increase our ability to respond to community needs. Explain to me how cutting 20% of your staff will accelerate anything.
Because some of the 80% who remain are being re-purposed from WoD to EVE
(reading is hard :( ) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Barakkus
848
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:57:00 -
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Chris Stormrider wrote:Whyumadtho wrote:Explain to me how cutting 20% of your staff will accelerate anything. ^^ this Also, to all the people saying they understand, it may be that the refocus to EVE and Fis is good but the ends do not justify the means. I'm still not convinced they know what they're doing...
It's called "we don't have enough money to pay everyone anymore"
We got the exact same speech at work last February when a number of our largest clients walked. Everyone had to take a "temporary" 10% pay cut and they laid off 20 people. Now we're "refocusing" on our core business as opposed to all the stupid little development projects that had nothing to do with our main business products. They realized they ****** up for the most part and let all the wrong people make all the decisions about the direction of the company and ****** the rest of us.
Unfortunately, now most of the people that can really do anything to pull us out of the mess are finding new jobs, myself included...hopefully it won't take me much longer to find another permanent position elsewhere. Having 10+ years experience in windows application programming is getting me lots of calls, unfortunately it's all contract work at the moment... |
Kabaos
Capital Group Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:57:00 -
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CCP want's more money ..
"A Jack of all trades is master of none" |
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Lady Vici
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:59:00 -
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well at the end its a statement that trys to avoid to say "we are running out of money". It was no secret that the balance was not really well and cutting down the non positiv parts is the first way during a restructuring. According to the statement WoD is bs and only a time and money sink (well they say - what every developer would say of his "babies" - its to early to understand...) On the other side they also say that the impact of loosing subscribers is much higher than expected and they fear to loose even more when they not focus on EvE. Looks like they finally found out that EvE is a nice project but needs continuos REAL development to keep people attracted - especially in the state the universe is actually. And finally they state that DUST is nice but also still far away of earning money but they cannot get rid of it because of their contract to Sony....
Well lets see if CCP can manage to restructure the company and get on the winning track again. I hope it because I like EvE :)
Just a tiny 4 account subscriber |
Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest THE D0MINION
3
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:00:00 -
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Or you could just drop WoD and make everyone happy. But that's not an option, is it? Also, if you fire Dropbear, I will unsub. |
Raivi
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:00:00 -
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If done right this refocusing is going to be the best thing for CCP in the long run, but it sucks for those staff getting laid off. Hopefully as many talented people as possible can be moved from WoD predevelopment to eve content.
My prayers and best wishes are with the people who will be laid off. |
ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group The Veerhouven Group
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:00:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:ACY GTMI wrote:I remember the quote about gamers being more attracted to flawed games with cool features rather than games that work predictably and only deploy new features when they have been fully developed and tested.
It appears that you still believe this. Oh well.
My suggestion? Forget the Winter expansion and fix the problems that the last few updates have caused. Er, the Winter expansion is exactly about fixing problems.
If it's an 'expansion', it isn't about fixing anything. It's kind of in the definition of the term.
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Barakkus
848
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:02:00 -
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Lady Vici wrote: Well lets see if CCP can manage to restructure the company and get on the winning track again. I hope it because I like EvE :)
They will, EVE is still a very viable product, I don't think EVE itself is in any danger at the moment, or CCP as a whole. |
Akiras Demon
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:02:00 -
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This makes me sad for those about to lose their job. However I think its good for eve, in space content seems to be the main concern that the players look forward too. Trying to get the other games off the ground has made EVE a more solid game with the deployment of CARBON and other tweaks. So I applaud CCP for trying to improve the gaming world. |
Shaera Taam
Minmatar Death Squad Broken Chains Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:03:00 -
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CCP Manifest wrote: Sadly, this means reducing our staff. We estimate that around twenty percent of global positions will be affected by this process.
i try hard not to bash CCP, preferring instead to offer constructive criticism; at the same time, i'm only a silly internet spaceship pilot posting on a game forum, so i dont expect too much in the way of a solid response, tbh...
those points aside, however...
correct me if i'm wrong, but everything seemed to be humming along nicely for CCP just prior to the CQ "misstep," when they were developing three major MMOs simultaneously. what changed? where was the money hemorrhage? or was the loss of revenue from the CQ-rage-unsubs more than CCP let on?
while i'm glad to hear that "eve is healty," i always exercise a bit of healthy skepticism when it comes to the reasons behind corporate layoffs. twenty percent is a huge slice of the office pool. please, CCP, do everything you can to get those people on other teams within eve or dust. your recently-found focus on those games could use all the help it could get, right?
/rant
my apologies... i wish nothing but the best for CCP and employees, current and outgoing.
fly safe out there.
ST |
Inficant
Serenity Smuggling
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:04:00 -
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ACY GTMI wrote:If it's an 'expansion', it isn't about fixing anything. It's kind of in the definition of the term.
When you have quarterly expansions the lines for what goes in an expansion and what doesn't are blurred. Eve's expansions have always had features *and* fixes. Sometimes more of one than the other.
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Raid'En
Apprentice Innovations
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:05:00 -
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not really what i wanted :/ hope the guys will find a new job quickly |
Xiaodown
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.19 15:06:00 -
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CCP ATL EMPLOYEES
The software shop I work for is looking for developers, and we have positions open in Atlanta (Duluth / Suwanee area), as well as Southwestern Virginia (about 5-6 hours from ATL).
We're primarily interested in .NET, Java, Python, and PHP devs. I think it's possible we may have some design positions, but not in any 3d space (no animation, motion capture, etc). We compete in the cloud industry.
Message me with inquiries; I'll make a point to check gate.eve throughout the day. |
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